The World’s 10 Best Business Class Seats: Which Products Excel?

The World’s 10 Best Business Class Seats: Which Products Excel?

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I’m an airline product geek, and every so often, I like to publish a list of what I consider to be the world’s best first class airlines, best first class lounges, best business class airlines, best business class lounges, etc. In this post, I’d like to provide an updated ranking of what I consider to be the world’s best business class seats, as this is an area where we’ve seen lots of developments over the years.

Business class seats have come a long way

We’ve seen a significant amount of innovation when it comes to business class seats, with some of the world’s best business class seats having been introduced in recent years.

However, it’s worth acknowledging that this is part of a larger trend, as over the past few decades we’ve seen business class seats go from recliners, to angled flat seats, to flat beds, to seats with direct aisle access, to suites with doors. In many ways, the premium economy cabins being introduced nowadays aren’t that different than business class 20+ years ago.

I will say this, though — broadly speaking, I think business class is “peaking,” in terms of the actual comfort level that passengers experience. At this point, business class improvements seem more incremental, with a focus on improved tech, privacy, and more.

Given the amount of innovation we’ve seen, I’d like to share an updated post with what I consider to be the world’s best business class seats.

What makes a great business class seat?

My ranking will be subjective, since not everyone is looking for the same thing when flying, and I think creating a formula for ranking these seats would minimize the perspective I can provide, having tried all of these products myself.

Some people love direct aisle access from every seat. Others don’t, since they love to sit next to their travel companion. Some people love seats with doors. Others hate them. The list goes on and on.

What goes into my decision as to what I consider to be the world’s best business class seats? A fully flat bed with direct aisle access from at least most seats is a given to make this list, though here’s what I’m looking for beyond that:

  • A comfortable sleeping surface — First and foremost, business class is about the bed, so a comfortable sleeping surface is the single most important factor. Part of that is lots of space for my feet, since some airlines seem to be developing elaborate seats with small footwells.
  • The ability to maximize privacy — This is something I personally care about, though I know others don’t. Given the choice, I’ll always take a seat that offers more privacy over one that doesn’t. I find it awkward to sleep next to strangers on the ground, and the same applies in the air.
  • Attention to detail with the design — Often I wonder if the person who designed a particular business class seat has ever actually been in business class before, because the design doesn’t have great attention to detail. I’m talking about where buttons are located, how good the lighting is, how easy it is to use the tray table, and more.
  • Different seating configurations for different occasions — Everyone travels with a different purpose, so it’s important that seats are customizable depending on whether you’re traveling alone, with a companion, or with your family. It’s great to have a lot of privacy, but truly exceptional airlines have designed their cabins in such a way that you can choose whether you want to sit alone, or next to someone else.
  • Great tech — Lately a lot of the innovation with new business class seating has come in the form of improved technology, including bluetooth audio, several high speed charging ports, wireless charging, high definition personal entertainment screens, and more.
  • Beautiful finishes — While the substance of a seat is most important to me, there’s also something to be said for a cabin that’s stylish.
  • Individual air nozzles — This is something I won’t be able to cover too thoroughly here, since in some cases I’ll be talking about seats that are used by many airlines. However, for any airline product folks reading this, individual air nozzles make a huge difference in terms of being able to sleep comfortably, given how warm cabins are often kept.

Why you should trust OMAAT seat rankings

Hopefully I don’t have to explain this to regular OMAAT readers, but I feel like this is worth mentioning for those who aren’t regular readers…

All the time I see media outlets ranking the best business class seats, though typically they’re just going off stock media images and how airlines describe their seats, rather than actual firsthand experience.

While I’m absolutely not saying you need to agree with my rankings, here’s why you should trust OMAAT rankings, in the sense that I’m sharing my honest and informed take here:

  • I pay for virtually all of my own flights, either with cash or miles
  • I’ve tried every kind of business class seat out there, and have flown business class literally hundreds of times, so have lots of context for what makes a great seat
  • I don’t have any sort of financial relationship with any airline
  • This is my passion, I’ve been reviewing airlines for 17+ years, I’ve written hundreds of flight reviews, and have logged millions of miles

The world’s 10 best business class seats

Let me now share what I consider to be the world’s best business class seats. Just a few final notes, before I do so:

  • Some of the seats I list are only available on one airline, while others are available on dozens of airlines, so I’m only going to be listing each type of seat once, even if there are minor variances
  • In situations where only one airline has a seat type, I’ll refer to it by airline, while when it’s a situation where multiple airlines have the same seat, I’ll refer to it by the seat name
  • One general struggle I have with these rankings is deciding which seat in a configuration to judge (for example, Singapore Airlines’ bulkhead business class seats are phenomenal, while the rest of the seats aren’t nearly as good); so I’ll be judging seat variations only if at least an average of one seat in each row has the comfort that wins it the ranking
  • I’m leaving service, food, drinks, entertainment, and Wi-Fi out of this equation; this list is all about the hard product
  • I won’t be including “business class plus” products in these rankings, though that is becoming an increasingly common offering, that’s somewhere between first and business class

Below are my rankings, starting with the best…

1. All Nippon Airways “The Room” business class

All Nippon Airways has the world’s best business class seat, in my opinion, which was introduced in 2019. This is simply an incredible product — each seat has a door, the suites are massive, and the amount of personal space is unparalleled.

With this seat, I really feel like airline products have come full circle, because this business class suite is better than many first class suites out there. This even beats the world famous Qatar Airways Qsuites product, at least in terms of hard product.

Where to find this seat: This seat is available exclusively on select ANA 777-300ERs. No other airlines have this product, though a modified version of this will soon come to select ANA 787s.

ANA “The Room” business class cabin 777
ANA “The Room” business class seat
ANA “The Room” business class seat

2. Japan Airlines Safran Unity business class

Japan Airlines is the global launch customer for the Safran Unity seat, which is the latest and greatest new business class seat out there. This is ultimately a staggered business class seat, though what sets it apart is that it’s incredibly spacious, has a ton of storage, and also has excellent tech, from bluetooth audio to wireless charging.

While the seat isn’t quite as spacious as ANA’s business class, the soft product and technology is quite a bit better, in my opinion, so I’m a huge fan of this product, and it’s among my favorite business class experiences in the world.

Where to find this seat: This seat is available on all Japan Airlines A350-1000s. It will eventually be available on other airlines, including on Air India’s refreshed wide body planes, plus Qantas’ A350s.

Japan Airlines Safran Unity business class cabin
Japan Airlines Safran Unity business class seat
Japan Airlines Safran Unity business class cabin

3. Collins Aerospace Elements business class

Nowadays, reverse herringbone seats are among the most popular business class seats out there. Some time back, popular seat manufacturer Collins Aerospace took this to the next level, with the introduction of its new Elements business class seat.

What makes this different than previous generation reverse herringbone seats? Well, quite a bit. The seat has a massive 24″ entertainment monitor, amazing tech, a door, and most important of all, it has significantly more space in the footwell. Many reverse herringbone products feel really tight in bed mode, so that’s where this evolution of the concept shines. I can’t wait to see more airlines introduce this same product.

Where to find this seat: This seat is available on all Starlux Airlines A350s, on the newest Etihad 787s, and on Cathay Pacific 777s with Aria Suites.

Starlux Airlines Collins Aerospace Elements business class cabin
Starlux Airlines Collins Aerospace Elements business class seat
Starlux Airlines Collins Aerospace Elements business class seat

4. Qatar Airways Qsuites business class

Qatar Airways introduced the Qsuite in 2017, and set a new standard for business class at the time. Just about everything about it is incredible — it’s private (it features a door), it’s spacious, it’s stylish, it has plenty of storage, and everything is thoughtfully designed.

What really seals the deal is how customizable these suites are. You can choose a window seat for full privacy, you can choose a double bed in the center section, or if you’re traveling as a group of four, you can even reserve a quad and create a huge suite. What’s most exciting is that Qatar Airways will soon be introducing a next generation version of the product, with even more incremental improvements.

Where to find this seat: This seat is available on all Qatar Airways A350-1000s, and on select Qatar Airways A350-900s, 777-200LRs, and 777-300ERs. No other airlines have this product.

Qatar Airways Qsuites business class cabin A350
Qatar Airways Qsuites business class seat
Qatar Airways Qsuites business class seat

5. Adient Ascent business class

While Qatar Airways is most well known for its Qsuites business class, the airline is installing the Adient Ascent seat on its 787-9s. These seats have doors and direct aisle access. Qatar Airways is the launch customer for this product, though you’ll also now find it on several other airlines as well.

This configuration is highly customizable, and each seat has a door. It’s a bit different than your typical reverse herringbone configuration, since the center seats sometimes face the aisle rather than the center of the cabin. The finishes in this cabin are all very well designed.

Where to find this seat: This seat is available on Qatar Airways 787-9s, on Hawaiian Airlines 787-9s, and on select American Airlines 787-9s. This is also United’s new Polaris business class seat.

Qatar Airways Adient Ascent business class cabin
Qatar Airways Adient Ascent business class seat
Qatar Airways Adient Ascent business class seat

6. Air France Safran Versa business class

Safran debuted its new Versa business class reverse herringbone seat on Air France, and it’s quite a good product. It has doors, excellent technology, and the seat feels quite spacious. Perhaps what’s most remarkable is the bulkhead seats in this configuration, which I’d consider to be the single best business class seats in the world. Of course only a small percentage of passengers get that seat, though.

Where to find this seat: This product is available exclusively on select Air France 777-300ERs, though you can expect this to be available on more planes in the future. Note that while Air France 350-900s have a very similar product, it’s from a different manufacturer.

Air France Safran Versa business class cabin
Air France Safran Versa business class cabin
Air France Safran Versa business class seat

7. Collins Aerospace reverse herringbone business class with door

As you can see above, Collins Aerospace’s cutting edge business class product is the Elements seat, available on Starlux Airlines, Cathay Pacific, and Etihad Airways. However, it’s worth also mentioning the company’s previous generation reverse herringbone product, which is otherwise among the best you’ll find in the skies.

The Collins Aerospace Super Diamond seat is incredibly popular, and can be found on airlines like Air Canada, American, China Airlines, Qatar Airways, Xiamen Air, and many more airlines. However, what elevates this product to the next level is that we’ve seen some airlines add doors to this seat.

In general I like reverse herringbone seats because each seat is virtually identical, so there are no bad seats. The seats have plenty of privacy, the window seats face the windows, and the seats are comfortable regardless of whether you’re relaxing or sleeping. The downside is that these seats aren’t ideal when traveling with someone, since even the center seats are quite private.

Where to find this seat: British Airways has the most of these seats in service, as they can be found on all A350-1000s and 787-10s, as well as select 777s and 787s. On top of that, Etihad has a similar product on its A350-1000s.

Etihad Collins Aerospace Super Diamond business class cabin
Etihad Collins Aerospace Super Diamond business class seat
Etihad Collins Aerospace Super Diamond business class seat

8. Collins Aerospace Horizon business class

Here’s another staggered business class product that’s becoming increasingly popular. Collins Aerospace has produced the Horizon business class seat, which is a staggered configuration with a door. This is a very functionally designed seat, with storage, good tech, and it’s comfortable whether sitting up or trying to sleep. Personally I prefer this product to the Vantage XL product with a door.

Where to find this seat: This seat is available on a subset of Turkish Airlines A350s, and on Air India A350s, all of which were initially intended for Aeroflot. On top of that, you’ll find it on Korean Air’s 787-10s.

Turkish Collins Aerospace Horizon business class cabin
Turkish Collins Aerospace Horizon business class seat
Turkish Collins Aerospace Horizon business class seat

9. Apex Suites business class

When you look at Apex Suites, you may initially think that they’re just average business class seats, as they don’t look that impressive. For example, on a 787, Apex Suites will be in a 2-2-2 configuration. What makes these seats superior is the window seats, as they feature an unrivaled amount of privacy and personal space. The window seats have a private walkway leading to the seat, and you can raise or lower the partition between seats for full privacy.

For many other business class seats, you have to sleep with your feet in a small footwell, while in an Apex Suite you have an unlimited amount of space for your feet. The other nice thing is that if you’re traveling with someone you can select an aisle and a window seat and sit next to one another, though you won’t have the same level of privacy in the aisle seat.

Where to find this seat: This seat is available on Gulf Air 787-9s, select Japan Airlines 777s and 787s, Korean Air 747-8s, 787-9s, and select 777-300ERs, and Oman Air 787s.

Oman Air Apex Suites business class cabin
Oman Air Apex Suites business class seat

10. Vantage XL business class with door

Delta’s flagship business class product is the Delta One Suite, which is a business class suite with a door. Delta uses a modified Vantage XL seat (similar to what you’ll find on Philippine Airlines, Qantas, RwandAir, and SAS, for example).

The Vantage XL seat isn’t otherwise on the list because I consider this to be an evolved version of it, given the addition of a door. The configuration is staggered, and the seats are private, spacious, and mostly well designed.

However, I do think the seat is a bit rough around the edges — the window seats lack storage, the door doesn’t quite close the whole way, the doors themselves are pretty low, and they’re difficult to open. This is a very good product, but a better job could have been done with the finishes, in my opinion.

Where to find this seat: This seat is available on Delta A350-900s and A330-900neos (though it feels much tighter on the A330s). You’ll also find the seats on Virgin Atlantic A330-900neos, China Eastern A350s and 787s, and Shanghai Airlines 787s.

Delta One business class cabin A350
Delta One business class seat
Delta One business class seat

Bottom line

There you have it, those are what I consider to be the 10 best business class seats. As you can see, in some cases these seats are specific to one airline, while in other cases many airlines have the same seats.

These rankings are highly subjective, and on a given day I could see the order of some of them being switched around, depending on whether I plan on sleeping the whole flight, am traveling with someone, etc. The only rankings I’m pretty committed to is my top four choices, though I could also see the order being moved around depending on the circumstances.

What do you think the world’s best business class seats are? How does your list compare to mine?

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  1. BofA_Fan New Member

    Do you have your list of best business class products from 10 years ago? It'd be fun to see how it's changed over time!

  2. Filip Guest

    Justice for Finnair AirLounge seat! Best seat in the sky!!! Free her!
    Can't wait to try ANA's new no recline seat to see how it compares (I recognise I'm an outlier on this forum, but I will go out of my way to get these seats)

    1. Jessica Guest

      Settle down Phil!!!!

  3. JD Guest

    The individual air nozzles is a huge one for me. While I care about the actual seat comfort, the food and the service but if the cabin is warm then I will not be comfortable. This is why as much as other international carriers excel in pretty much every other aspect of the onboard service, I still get my best sleep on US airlines (especially United) with the cold cabin and great bedding.

  4. Baliken Guest

    Qsuites are the best, especially the couples seats, and they are definitely better than the Room.

  5. Mike Guest

    What about Finnair's lounge/couch? I think it is one of the top-3 on my list. I know some people hate it, but I am in the love category as there's just so much space and one does not need to depend on pre-set or moving too much of the chair. Without the door, I find there's enough privacy

  6. kimshep Guest

    It seems that Recaro should "throw in the towel"? No mention anywhere.

    1. UncleRonnie Diamond

      They're concentrating on Economy torture devices.

  7. ImmortalSynn Guest

    Notably absent from this list of top performers, Singapore Airlines.

    Such a great soft product, but their hard product is becoming a punchline, as is their HORRIBLE frequent flyer program (that makes Skymiles look almost reasonable). Sad.

    1. 1990 Guest

      The angle is the problem. I’ve flown on their 359ULR from NYC (both EWR/JFK) to SIN. It’s a great airline, but the way you need to contort yourself once the lie-flat is folded down (it’s not automatic), takes some getting used to. JAL’s 35K in J is better.

  8. dollar Member

    ANA's The Room looks nice and spacious and all, but it just doesn't look comfortable to me. Am I wrong about that? I'd love to try it of course... but it just looks like sitting on a car bench seat, not a comfortable recliner like other hard products.

    1. 1990 Guest

      You’re wrong. ANA The Room is incredible. Other than JAL a35K and Qsuite, that particular ANA on 773 is top 3 business class seat.

    2. dollar Member

      Thanks! Like I said, I'm just going off what it looks like in the pictures. If it's actually comfortable then I will definitely try it sometime.

    3. Jinxed_K Guest

      I found the seat itself to be comfortable but the footwell is very cramped if you're a 6' tall person like me.
      I'd rather take the old non-Room ANA business class seat for that if I could, but it's not the end of the world.

  9. John Guest

    How does the seat heating/cooling system in LH Allegris (and soon SWISS Senses) compensate for the lack of air nozzles? I haven’t experienced it yet but it seems to me that it’s an overly complicated solution to something that could be fixed by placing individual air vents/gaspers.

    Also, I think it’s interesting that several of these airlines have them on their short haul aircraft but not on long haul. This makes less sense than anything to me.

    1. Tony Guest

      Nothing about Allegris makes any sense (at least to anyone who is not German).

  10. Bad Horse Guest

    I just wish domestic airlines would up their business class game. Yea, they are slightly more comfortable but I want to see more lie flat seats for longer domestic flight. Other airlines need to offer something like Mint from JetBlue. Problem with JetBlue is that they don't have enough Mint routes to force a change in the industry.

    1. Chuck Guest

      It’s coming sooner than you’d expect

  11. AeroB13a Guest

    Max darlink, like you and others, I too wonder why the trolls like Eskimo, etc, etc, are allowed to post nothing but trolling posts. Have you noticed how so many of them hardly ever post more than a few words of gobbledygook? Those being mainly in response to the post of someone else and usually in a derogatory manner.

    For months I read the nonsense and the bullying posts in response to Tim Dunn’s missives,...

    Max darlink, like you and others, I too wonder why the trolls like Eskimo, etc, etc, are allowed to post nothing but trolling posts. Have you noticed how so many of them hardly ever post more than a few words of gobbledygook? Those being mainly in response to the post of someone else and usually in a derogatory manner.

    For months I read the nonsense and the bullying posts in response to Tim Dunn’s missives, without comment. Then after posting my disgust at some trolling activity, I too became the target of their derogatory remarks.

    There you have it Max, the reason why I respond thus to the common trolls who are allowed to contribute absolutely nothing to this website. Yes, I am as rude to them as they are to others. Even when I do not respond directly to them they continue to try to provoke a reaction from me. I can be very obliging with the quantity of my responses, notwithstanding, with a direct slapping down too. I do not and never have suffered fools gladly, furthermore, I detest bullies Max.
    P.S. I tried to add this reply to the question addressed to me by MaxPower below, however, for some reason it will not appear there.

    1. JHS Guest

      I’m with you, Mr. Aero.

      At least one troller, probably more, has shown visceral resentment to me over the suggestion of controls on the number of comments/responses per article. The vast majority of readers of this blog have better things to do with their time than to sift through the endless and mindless and often off-topic drivel.

      Maybe OMAAT is partially compensated by number of responses, which would result in Ben tolerating all...

      I’m with you, Mr. Aero.

      At least one troller, probably more, has shown visceral resentment to me over the suggestion of controls on the number of comments/responses per article. The vast majority of readers of this blog have better things to do with their time than to sift through the endless and mindless and often off-topic drivel.

      Maybe OMAAT is partially compensated by number of responses, which would result in Ben tolerating all the nonsense. Am I right? Wrong? Dunno.

  12. Alan Guest

    The Air Canada seat is pretty horrible for side sleeping. You end up with bruised knees from the immovable tray table under the TV.

    (On top of AC being below average in all other aspects)

    1. Northern Flyer Guest

      Yes indeed. The AC business seat is awful

    2. Parnel Guest

      How this seat makes the top 10 is mind boggling.

      Air Canada is utter garbage, the seat deflates half the time.

  13. Kmct111 Guest

    Apex suites can also be found on ex WY 330s in QRs fleet.

  14. ZEPHYR Guest

    Air India is facing a serious certification issues with the Safran Unity seat (HIC) as it is installed in a lower seat pitch 45" compared to JAL 51".

    They already have 2 B787-8 fitted with this seats, at least one of the new B787-9 and A350-1000 also fitted with the seat.
    Heard that the A350 issue is progressing alot faster than the B787s.
    Hopefully the issues are resolved before next year.

    1. AnishReddi Gold

      Where did you hear this… there were rumours of them using a different seat for the 787s.

    2. ZEPHYR Guest

      It's the same Safran Unity seats for the A350, B787, B777.

      It never changed, though they might have considered it at one point but I didn't hear that.

    3. ZEPHYR Guest

      I can confirm that two B787-8 already retrofitted into the new seats. At least one B787-9 and one A350-1000 is also with the seats installed.

    4. ZEPHYR Guest

      @AnishReddi

      I stand corrected,
      Having seen the new seats, it's obvious that it's not the Safran Unity, it's not even a staggered seat.

      It is definitely the same seat UA, AA and QR are fitting on their new B787-9

    5. ZEPHYR Guest

      The certification and retrofit of the B777 isn't being prioritised for some reasons.
      They need both A350 and B787 certified first as there are a flurry of new aircrafts of that family coming in from next year, the B777x doesn't get in till 2029/2030, they can hold off B77W retrofit till 2027 (well after the A350 and B787 gets going)

  15. RandomTwoCents Guest

    Interesting no SQ - shows how dated their seat has become. Can't wait for the update.

    Most of these seats are geared towards solo travelers. Even with reverse herringbone config, you're pretty far from your neighbor in the center seats to have a casual conversation or help a child/elder. UA polaris is pretty dated by now but those close center seats do come in handy when traveling with family

  16. Hiro Diamond

    Interesting observations.

    I’ve tried 1, 2, 3, 4, and 9 and my ranking will be:

    1. Q-Suite: Great privacy, storage space, and leg space (the cubicle isn’t too small). Couldn’t find any fault.

    2. JAL A350-1000: similar to Q-Suite, except there are no armrests on window side seat so it could be a bit concerning at upright position.

    3. ANA The Room: While it’s super wide and private, that’s only about where it shines. The...

    Interesting observations.

    I’ve tried 1, 2, 3, 4, and 9 and my ranking will be:

    1. Q-Suite: Great privacy, storage space, and leg space (the cubicle isn’t too small). Couldn’t find any fault.

    2. JAL A350-1000: similar to Q-Suite, except there are no armrests on window side seat so it could be a bit concerning at upright position.

    3. ANA The Room: While it’s super wide and private, that’s only about where it shines. The biggest drawback is almost zero storage, as the space under leg cubicle is fully covered. The little covered box by side table is so thin and just enough to place a few magazines so no place to even keep a water bottle! Also, the seat padding is thin and hard. Not to mention if you’re over 170cm you need to sleep diagonally.

    4. Starlux A350 (Collins Aerospace Elements) : It’s a great seat for Reverse Herringbone, but personally felt the original Collins Aerospace type to be more spacious overall. The table is not sturdy at all so even a small turbulence can cause it to shake it and vibrate with sound, which is annoying. The door looks more like a gimmick as it doesn’t feel that private compared to the other three above.

    5. APEX Suite: Agree totally that the best part is unrestricted leg space and privacy by the window side. It’s just the lack of storage space, otherwise it feels like first class when taking account the bed length. If only considering the window seats, I’ll put it above 4th or even 3rd position.

  17. AeroB13a Guest

    The proletariat No: 1 troll, posts nonsense to prove that it is nothing less than a mindless click-bait junkie, yes?

    Has such an unmitigated fool ever set foot inside anything but a budget U.S. airline, one is doubtful, as it cannot articulate a singe ‘premium’ experience never mind hold a sensible conversation about J seating …. poor, sad troll. Why are such tolerated on this site?

    1. MaxPower Diamond

      Most wonder why you're allowed with these weird drunken proletariat rants and unusual flexes trying to poverty-shame another guest poster, like yourself.

    2. AeroB13a Guest

      Max, please see response above.

    3. Darryl Macklem Guest

      Mini MaxPower, after making a total fool of himself as he got badly beaten up by AeroB13a and Darryl Stewart in the comments, is at it again. He tried to lie and went away with a major case of Depression. Now he’s throwing money at ME, looking for forgiveness! Sad!

    4. MaxPower Diamond

      huh?
      God knows what this drunken rant is about, "Darryl"

  18. Frog Guest

    I know LH Allegris is a sh*t show but some of the seats aren’t too bad as a hard product. I’d rate the window seats and maybe the center throne-like seat above some of the products on this list.

  19. Eskimo Guest

    Ben should add one more point to

    "Why you should trust OMAAT seat rankings"

    - I don't extort airlines hotels or loyalty programs for upgrades, excessive compensation, or special treatment. Nor threaten to post negative reviews to blackmail or get clickbaits.

  20. Rainer Guest

    I don't know....
    As a side sleeper i do often struggle with the space on knee level.
    Also with 183cm i'm not huge or exceptional tall, but still the headrest is quite often not suitable for me (or not adjustable at all)

    That been said, (real) business class seats have usually become very good today.

  21. AeroB13a Guest

    Collins Aerospace seats are fitted to by greater number of carriers than is noted in the article …. one has to wonder why the other airlines have been omitted from Ben’s list?

    1. Eskimo Guest

      Stick to your SkyTrax overlords and stay brainwashed.

  22. Likes-to-fly Diamond

    Just a comment on ANA Room -- yes, it is vast, spacious, nice, however it does not have as much storage space as I would expect, and it is not easy to get in/out from the suite when the seat is in sleep position.

    I actually prefer SQ business class seat (777-300), indeed less space compared to ANA, still super comfy, plenty of storage space and easy to navigate in either of the positions.

  23. S_LEE Diamond

    Just FYI, Adient Aerospace was rebranded as "Elevate Aircraft Seating" as of April 30.
    So it's "Elevate Ascent," not "Adient Ascent" anymore.

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/elevate-seats

  24. hanchicago Guest

    Great update to your list, Ben. I've been very fortunate enough to have flown in all these business class seat types. My list would mainly differ from yours by placing the Collins Horizon seat two or three notches higher. And maybe I wouldn't have placed the JAL Safran Unity seat quite that high.

    Anyways, what would be really fascinating is to see the evolution of this list (and your other lists of airlines based on...

    Great update to your list, Ben. I've been very fortunate enough to have flown in all these business class seat types. My list would mainly differ from yours by placing the Collins Horizon seat two or three notches higher. And maybe I wouldn't have placed the JAL Safran Unity seat quite that high.

    Anyways, what would be really fascinating is to see the evolution of this list (and your other lists of airlines based on their premium cabins and lounges) over the past ten to 15 years, like in a dynamic graphic. That would show the change in the industry and perhaps your thinking. (I vaguely recall when the Apex seat and Vantage XL seats were in the top 5 or maybe even top 3.)

  25. Mike O. Guest

    With everything you just listed is pretty much industry standard now no matter what product an airline selects, I wonder what the next (r)evolution will be.

    In my opinion, the next evolution will be the ability to control your own environment such as IFE, HVAC, lighting with your own device.

    I think it'd be pretty neat to see heated/ventilated seats (and even your entire suite) as well as a massage function making a comeback.

    1. Mike Guest

      I think they are getting very close to plateau with the business class seat. In terms of footprint, I’m not sure they can do an awful lot more. If anyone asked me they should invest more in finding a seat that is equally comfortable for seating and sleeping. I find the flat beds to be pretty ordinary when you’re just sitting, offering poor leg support and not that amazing back support.
      Noticing the first...

      I think they are getting very close to plateau with the business class seat. In terms of footprint, I’m not sure they can do an awful lot more. If anyone asked me they should invest more in finding a seat that is equally comfortable for seating and sleeping. I find the flat beds to be pretty ordinary when you’re just sitting, offering poor leg support and not that amazing back support.
      Noticing the first class seats that have a bed and an armchair, I guess airlines have also realised this. How do you solve it - I for one do not know.
      I was at the airspace museum in Toulouse recently and they had a bunch of the old style “cradle business class” seats. Sitting in them was so much nicer than the emirates seat that brought me to France or the AF seat that took me back home.

    2. Mike O. Guest

      Didn't business class already reach the point of stagnation? I mean after the QSuites and ANAs The Room, what's revolutionary after that?!

    3. kimshep Guest

      Apparently, everyone's forgotten Ben's rapturous review of JAL's seat with the omni-directional speakers fitted into the ear-level wings ? That, to me, was more than novel and certainly an impressive leap in seat technology. In the immediate future, I'd expect design of seats to be incremental, rather than revolutionary.

      Perhaps, the next 'revolutionary step' will be some form of natural body-hugging air-filled, non-puncturable seat that truly adjusts perfectly to ALL body shapes ?

      Apparently, everyone's forgotten Ben's rapturous review of JAL's seat with the omni-directional speakers fitted into the ear-level wings ? That, to me, was more than novel and certainly an impressive leap in seat technology. In the immediate future, I'd expect design of seats to be incremental, rather than revolutionary.

      Perhaps, the next 'revolutionary step' will be some form of natural body-hugging air-filled, non-puncturable seat that truly adjusts perfectly to ALL body shapes ?

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MaxPower Diamond

Most wonder why you're allowed with these weird drunken proletariat rants and unusual flexes trying to poverty-shame another guest poster, like yourself.

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Likes-to-fly Diamond

Just a comment on ANA Room -- yes, it is vast, spacious, nice, however it does not have as much storage space as I would expect, and it is not easy to get in/out from the suite when the seat is in sleep position. I actually prefer SQ business class seat (777-300), indeed less space compared to ANA, still super comfy, plenty of storage space and easy to navigate in either of the positions.

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1990 Guest

You’re wrong. ANA The Room is incredible. Other than JAL a35K and Qsuite, that particular ANA on 773 is top 3 business class seat.

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