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We got to LAX at around 12PM for our 2:15PM flight to Stockholm. SAS operates out of Tom Bradley International Terminal. While the main check-in area was an absolute zoo, there was no one in the premium line. The flight was way oversold in economy, while it had empty seats in business class and premium economy, so I overheard the check-in agents aggressively trying to upsell people.
SAS uses the Star Alliance Lounge at LAX, which I’ve reviewed before, so I won’t review it again in this report.
Our flight was departing from gate 159, located at the far end of the concourse. Boarding was scheduled to commence at 1:35PM, which is 40 minutes before departure.
SAS A330 at LAX
Boarding finally began at 1:40PM… for economy passengers. I’ve experienced cases where a premium cabin wasn’t fully prepared or something, and that led to a delay in boarding. However, in this instance it was simply that they were only using the forward jet bridge to board passengers, so they wanted to board economy first, and then business class.
They tried to sell it as if they were doing business class passengers a favor (“this way all the economy passengers won’t be walking past you”), but that’s not of much use when the alternative is standing at the gate watching everyone else board. Suffice to say there were a lot of annoyed and confused business class passengers.
SAS boarding gate LAX
Finally at 1:55PM business class boarding commenced. I was so excited to board this flight, given that SAS business class is one of the airlines I was most excited to review this year. Furthermore, this was a completely new type of business class seat for me, as it was my first time in the Vantage XL seat.
SAS 940
Los Angeles (LAX) – Stockholm (ARN)
Wednesday, July 6
Depart: 2:15PM
Arrive: 10:00AM (+1 day)
Duration: 10hr45min
Aircraft: Airbus A330
Seat: 5H (Business Class)
We boarded through the forward door, where the purser directed us to the far aisle. At first I thought he was the first officer, given that he was wearing a jacket with three stripes.
Unfortunately I couldn’t get a great cabin picture during boarding, due to how hectic the process was.
SAS business class cabin A330
SAS’ new business class is basically an evolution of the business class product you’ll find on Austrian, Brussels, Delta, etc. The seats are staggered in a 1-2-1 configuration. There are a total of 32 seats, spread across eight rows.
SAS business class cabin A330
In each row the seats are staggered. The reason is because the footrest for a given row is located between the seats in front.
SAS business class center seats
Ford and I had selected seats 5H and 6H. The window seats are also staggered, with the seats in even numbered rows being closer to the windows, while the seats in odd numbered rows were closer to the aisle.
My general preference is to sit in a seat closer to the window, though I gave that seat to Ford.
SAS business class window seat
The “true” window seats feel significantly more private, as you basically have a cocoon.
SAS business class window seat
My main complaint with a Vantage style seat is how small the foot cubby is, as it almost feels like you’re in a coffin when fully reclined. I thought these seats had slightly more space for feet than the Vantage style seats I’ve found on other airlines, though it was still a bit restrictive.
SAS business class window seat legroom
I sat in 5H, a seat located closer to the aisle.
SAS A330 business class, seat 5H
These seats are less private and feel more exposed, and also aren’t as good for looking out the window, since you’re further away.
SAS A330 business class, seat 5H
The one advantage of the aisle seats is that they have a bit more room for your feet. I’m not sure if the cubby is actually more spacious, or if it’s simply that the cubby opens up into the aisle, so you feel less restricted.
SAS business class seat legroom
I thought the seat was gorgeous aesthetically. It’s not the most blinged out seat, but I thought it very nicely represented Nordic design, with clean, simple lines, and neutral colors.
For the “true” window seat, the storage area was located to the left of the seat, which also helped create a privacy partition of sorts.
SAS A330 business class storage and seat controls
In the bottom area were the seat controls, and above that was the reading light.
SAS business class seat controls
Immediately next to the seat was a power outlet, as well as a USB outlet and headphone jack.
SAS business class headphone jack and power outlet
The entertainment controller was next to that, which is also where the flight attendant call button and reading light control were located.
SAS business class entertainment controls
Then there was a hook for headphones. The headphones were decent quality for business class, though not as good as my Bose Quiet Comfort 35 headphones, which I used instead.
SAS business class headphones
Behind the headphones was the amenity kit, which was a small black zippered pouch.
SAS business class amenity kit
The kit had all the necessities, though otherwise was pretty no frills. There were socks, eyeshades, earplugs, a toothbrush, and toothpaste.
SAS business class amenity kit contents
Then there was lip balm, as well as hand and body cream.
SAS business class amenity kit contents
There was also a small compartment there I found a bottle of water.
SAS business class water bottle holder
On the seat in front of me was a leather literature pocket, as well as a coat hook.
SAS business class magazine pocket
As boarding finished up, the flight attendants came around with pre-departure beverages. I could tell immediately they wouldn’t be a good crew. It’s not just that they were indifferent or didn’t seem like they wanted to be there, but rather they seemed actively angry to be there. The exception was the purser, who was a really nice guy.
But other than that, I truly felt like I was on a US carrier with an especially bad crew. The flight attendants working business class on this flight should be reassigned to the lost baggage department, as their attitude would be better suited for there, in my opinion.
I had a glass of champagne before departure, which was served simply by the flight attendant holding out the tray without saying anything.
SAS business class pre-departure champagne
Shortly thereafter menus were distributed, and the flight attendant asked “breakfast before landing?”
SAS business class menu
At 2:05PM boarding was complete, with every seat in business class taken. 90 minutes before departure there were only 12 seats assigned in business class, so I assume the other 20 passengers were operational upgrades or otherwise bought up at check-in. For what it’s worth, almost everyone in the cabin seemed to be European. I only heard one or two other people with an American accent.
SAS business class cabin A330
While the crew wasn’t the most charming, the captain was. At around 2:10PM “commander Hans” came on the PA to add his welcome aboard, informing us of our flight time of 10hr24min, and the mostly smooth conditions enroute. His English was sort of adorable, because he knew most English words well, but some of the phrases he used were hilarious. He finished his announcement by saying “so ladies and gentlemen, what do you say, let’s fly to Sweden.”
Shortly thereafter the purser made his welcome aboard announcement, and then screened the safety video.
We began our pushback at 2:25PM next to a Fiji Airways A330, which I’m excited to review pretty soon.
Fiji Airways A330 business class LAX
Our taxi to the runway took only about 15 minutes, and at 2:40PM we were cleared for takeoff on runway 25R, ahead of an Air China 777.
Taxiing LAX
Air China 777 LAX
Taxiing into position runway 25R LAX
As you’d expect, the views on departure were stunning, especially as we climbed out with a view of Tom Bradley International Terminal, and all the international airlines parked there.
View after takeoff from LAX
View after takeoff from LAX
View after takeoff from LAX
View after takeoff from LAX
The beautiful views continued as we climbed out over the California coastline.
California coastline departing LAX
We climbed out for about five minutes, and then made an almost 180 degree turn to fly in an eastbond direction.
California coastline departing LAX
The seatbelt sign was turned off about 15 minutes after takeoff.
SAS business class cabin A330
SAS offers Wi-Fi on their A330s, which has no data caps. In theory the pricing is 19USD, though it’s actually complimentary for business class passengers.
SAS Wi-Fi pamphlet
I immediately tried to connect to the Wi-Fi, though had issues doing so. It validates that you’re in business class based on your personal details, and they didn’t seem to match what they had in the system. Fortunately the purser offered to help, and he entered a master code that got me connected.
The Wi-Fi speed was decent, similar to what you’d get through Gogo on a US flight.
SAS Wi-Fi system
After connecting to Wi-Fi I browsed the entertainment selection. It was reasonably extensive. It wasn’t as good as the ICE system on Emirates, though was certainly better than a lot of other systems out there.
SAS entertainment system
SAS entertainment system
There were a variety of programming options, ranging from movies to TV to music.
SAS business class entertainment selection
SAS business class entertainment selection
SAS business class entertainment selection
After browsing the entertainment I checked out the airshow, which had a lot of different “perspectives” from which you could see the route.
Airshow enroute to Stockholm
Airshow enroute to Stockholm
Airshow enroute to Stockholm
Airshow enroute to Stockholm
SAS also has an exterior camera on the A330, though sadly it’s not a tail camera, which I find to be the coolest perspective.
Nose camera on SAS A330
I eventually decided to watch a “Brain Games” show, which I found to be rather lame. One thing that impressed me is that SAS has no advertisements before their entertainment selection.
SAS entertainment selection
After takeoff the crew distributed mattress pads. Perhaps more accurately they were mattress sheets. While I appreciate the effort in theory, I didn’t think they made any difference, so instead used it as extra padding for my pillow.
SAS business class mattress pad
However, I did quite like the pillow and blanket, both aesthetically and in terms of the padding. They were well padded without feeling too warm (which is especially important here, given that SAS doesn’t have individual air nozzles on their A330s).
SAS business class pillow and blanket
For this particular seat, the tray table slides out from the side of the seat, and can be released by pulling a lever.
SAS business class tray table
The crew distributed hot towels about 40 minutes after takeoff, which I found to be a long time to get the service started.
SAS business class hot towel
Moments later they distributed tablecloths, in anticipation of the start of dinner service.
SAS business class tablecloth
The menu read as follows:
And the beverage menu read as follows:
As soon as the service began, one of the flight attendants in each aisle put on a chef uniform of sorts. I’m not sure if these flight attendants are specially trained in some way, because they did the service alongside one of their colleagues on each aisle. I’m guessing it’s mostly for show. One thing’s for sure — they didn’t train the onboard chefs in providing friendly service.
SAS business class dinner service
Service began with warm mixed nuts in a rather large ramekin, as well as cocktails. SAS has some cool signature cocktails, so I decided to order the “take off,” consisting of gin, cointreau, and bitter lemon. It was tasty.
SAS business class dinner — mixed nuts and cocktail
20 minutes after the initial drinks were served, the crew came through to offer cutlery, a bread plate, a selection from the breadbasket, and more drinks. I switched to champagne — SAS serves Charles Heidsieck in business class.
SAS business class dinner — champagne, water, and bread
I had a roll, while Ford had a slice of bread.
SAS business class bread selection
SAS business class bread selection
The next cart rolled through the aisle consisted of the appetizers and salad. For the appetizer, we had the choice between beef and salmon.
I selected the salmon, which was delicious, and almost reminded me of the Balik salmon that Cathay Pacific used to serve in first class.
SAS business class dinner starter
SAS business class dinner starter — smoked salmon with orange and fennel salad
Ford had the beef, which looked quite good as well.
SAS business class dinner starter — seared beef with roasted fingerling potatoes
The service wasn’t done from a traditional galley cart, but rather from a trolley. I was impressed that the salad was prepared on the trolley. There was a big salad bowl, and when someone ordered a salad, the flight attendant acting as chef plated it.
SAS business class dinner mixed salad
Over 30 minutes after the appetizers were served, the crew came around with the main courses. They were all displayed on a trolley, and you could pick which one you wanted.
I ordered the shrimp with blue cheese gnocchi, which was surprisingly good. As the meals were served we were offered black pepper out of a pepper mill, which was a nice touch.
SAS business class dinner main course — shrimp with blue cheese gnocchi
Ford ordered the wagyu beef brisket, which he said was excellent.
SAS business class dinner main course — wagyu beef brisket with purple fingerling potatoes
Dessert was served another 30 minutes after the main course. I was asked if I wanted cheese, and then also which dessert I wanted. While I was quite full at this point, I ordered both the cheese and lemon tart, so I could photograph them.
The cheese was decent enough.
SAS business class dessert — cheddar and roquefort goat cheese
The lemon tart was refreshing, and had a sweet taste thanks to the mascarpone. It was also proactively served with a side of fruit. Everything was plated off the trolley at our seats.
SAS business class dessert — lemon tart with vanilla mascarpone
Ford had the ice cream. There was no choice of flavor (just cookies & cream), and he was also proactively offered fruit.
SAS business class dessert — ice cream with fruit
To finish off the meal I ordered a cappuccino, though apparently the frothing device was broken, so it didn’t come out quite as expected.
SAS business class coffee
Overall I thought SAS’ business class catering was exceptional, easily one of the best out there. I’d rank it just slightly below Austrian and Turkish, which I think otherwise offer the best transatlantic business class catering.
The service throughout the meal was definitely on the slow side, as the service wasn’t complete until more than 2hr30min after takeoff. That’s not a big deal since this was a 10+ hour flight, but on a flight from the east coast that would be more of an issue.
Airshow enroute to Stockholm
As far as the service goes, our aisle was being served by the purser and one of the flight attendants. The purser was really nice and well intentioned, while the “chef” (and other flight attendants) simply had no charm. They didn’t smile, they didn’t communicate in full sentences (and it wasn’t because they didn’t speak English well), and there was a certain aggression in how everything was being plated, crazy as it sounds. As I said above, they were the European version of a bad crew you’d get on a longhaul flight on a US airline.
After dinner I decided to watch a few episodes of The Big Bang Theory that I hadn’t seen before.
SAS business class entertainment selection
While the lights were dimmed somewhat after dinner, I was surprised they kept mood lighting on, which seemed to add unnecessary light.
SAS A330 business class cabin after dinner
After watching a few episodes of The Big Bang Theory I checked out the two lavatories located behind the cabin.
The lavatories were spacious, and even featured a window, which is a cool feature. That’s especially true on a flight like this were you don’t want to open the window shade and disturb other passengers in the cabin, but you can easily look outside from the lavatory.
SAS business class lavatory A330
SAS business class lavatory A330
SAS business class lavatory amenities A330
There was also a self serve snack bar, located behind the cabin and on the left side, across from the flight attendant jumpseat. When I visited it there was a flight attendant who was actually friendly seated across from it, though I think she was just “filling in” while other flight attendants rested, and was otherwise working premium economy or economy. The snack selection was decent. They had fresh fruit, all kinds of packaged snacks, chocolates, and donuts.
SAS business class self serve snack bar
I had intended to get a good night of sleep on this flight, though due to a variety of circumstances couldn’t get any real sleep. I’m guessing that’s largely due to this being such an early departure out of Los Angeles, so I have a tough time naturally falling asleep at 2PM. The mood lighting and warm cabin temperature didn’t help either.
So instead I worked for much of the flight.
Airshow enroute to Stockholm
Airshow enroute to Stockholm
I worked for several hours, and eventually even napped for an hour.
Airshow enroute to Stockholm
Airshow enroute to Stockholm
About 1hr45min before arrival the breakfast service began, which seemed awfully early.
Airshow enroute to Stockholm
Breakfast service began with hot towels and tablecloths being distributed, as well as coffee, juice, fresh fruit, and a selection of bread.
SAS business class breakfast
SAS business class breakfast — seasonal fruit
I selected both an English muffin and a roll.
SAS business class breakfast — English muffin and roll
The rest of the food could be selected off the cart. I was offered yogurt, muesli, cheese, veggies, cold cuts, sausage, a frittata, etc.
SAS business class breakfast
I selected the goat cheese frittata, along with the chicken sausage and veggies. The frittata was great.
SAS business class breakfast — goat cheese frittata with chicken apple sausage and veggies
I also had some blueberry greek yogurt and muesli.
SAS business class breakfast — Greek yogurt and Muesli
Ford had the frittata, cold cuts, sausage, and yogurt.
SAS business class breakfast
As we approached Stockholm I opened my window shade and watched the beautiful landscape.
View approaching Stockholm
35 minutes before landing the captain provided us with updated arrival information, anticipating we’d arrive right on schedule.
The seatbelt sign was turned on about 15 minutes before landing. Interestingly SAS requires you to put away your blanket for landing, which is the policy on a few airlines.
View approaching Stockholm
View approaching Stockholm
View on final approach into Stockholm
We had a crooked touchdown in Stockholm at 10AM, where the left wheel hit the ground significantly before the right wheel.
Taxiing Stockholm Arlanda Airport
Our taxi to our arrival gate took just five minutes, and we taxied past a Thai Airways 777-300R.
Thai Airways 777 Stockholm Airport
Then we parked at the far end of one of the terminals, right next to an SAS A330 and Norwegian 787.
SAS A330 Stockholm Airport
Arrival gate Stockholm Airport
SAS A330 business class bottom line
SAS simultaneously impressed and disappointed me.
The food on SAS exceeded my expectations, and aside from Austrian and Turkish, was probably the best transatlantic business class catering I’ve had.
Meanwhile the service disappointed me greatly. Aside from the purser, the crew was terrible, plain and simple. I’m not sure whether they were just having a bad day, or if matronly service is the norm at SAS.
I was also really happy to finally try the business suite that SAS offers, which is also available on Qantas A330s. I thought the seat was good, and a nice improvement over the old Vantage style seat. Still, I’d say this ranks behind the Apex Suite, reverse herringbone seat, and Singapore Airlines business class seat in terms of my favorite seats. It’s my favorite type of staggered seat, however.
If you’ve flown SAS or the Vantage XL seat, what was your experience like?
I recognized that you guys are not anymore showing the "information block" with all flight details = flight no., day/date, hour of departure/arrival, duration, etc. - especially the duration I always found a nice detail. Any reason for not mentioning that anymore?
Just flew from ARN to BGO in SAS “business class.” It was a 737 and my seat was indistinguishable from coach. There was a person in the middle seat next to me crowding my space. The only distinguishable perk was the “chicken wrap” they pretended was food that was provided without an extra charge. Oh and one “cup” of wine. Cabin crew was invisible after the initial “food” service. This is the worst airline in...
Just flew from ARN to BGO in SAS “business class.” It was a 737 and my seat was indistinguishable from coach. There was a person in the middle seat next to me crowding my space. The only distinguishable perk was the “chicken wrap” they pretended was food that was provided without an extra charge. Oh and one “cup” of wine. Cabin crew was invisible after the initial “food” service. This is the worst airline in the world. I can’t believe United let’s them be part of Star Alliance. Maybe you should try their regional “service.” Obviously no one from United has ever set foot on this airline. Have you flown it on narrow body jets? Might be a good idea to get a full picture of this company’s treatment of their customers. Would love to hear if you’ve tried it.
SAS was one of the five founding members of Star Alliance, quite hard to kick them out ;)
Plus intra-Europe “Plus” is meant as a premium economy product, not a full business class product.
I have flown SAS Business multiple times and I recommend to get the bulkhead seats. They have additional storage space so you can put a small backpack or a small trolley in the closet in front of the seat and you have a huge space for your feet. If you fly the A340 they have 2 rows of bulkhead seats.
Will be heading from Jacksonville, FL to Stockholm in a few weeks on SAS A330 Business Class. I have to say this is the best review of business class for any airline that I have ever read. Thanks for the great information. I will look forward to reading and following your blog.
We just flew seven leisure passengers Business class nonstop IAD-Copenhagen and agree also with your experience of SAS crew is totally accurate - curt and unsmiling. Also, what’s up with the SAS Copenhagen business class lounge having no newspapers, magazines, one iffy low def tv, and, horrors, no full service bar. They had beer and wine on tap and the wine on tap didn’t work, so basically you could get a beer. No mimosas or...
We just flew seven leisure passengers Business class nonstop IAD-Copenhagen and agree also with your experience of SAS crew is totally accurate - curt and unsmiling. Also, what’s up with the SAS Copenhagen business class lounge having no newspapers, magazines, one iffy low def tv, and, horrors, no full service bar. They had beer and wine on tap and the wine on tap didn’t work, so basically you could get a beer. No mimosas or bloody marys - wow, just wow. Seats are nice as is entertainment system, but movie choices somewhat limited. Good on time flights, but substandard lounges and surly crew...
I realize this is an old review, but I fly to Scandinavia a lot and your experience with this SAS crew is typical. I have had some of the worst service of any kind on SAS flights. (I try to connect in Zurich on Swiss now on flights to Scandinavia). SAS provides a great product in terms of design and meals, but the service is terrible. I have a had a lot of discussions with...
I realize this is an old review, but I fly to Scandinavia a lot and your experience with this SAS crew is typical. I have had some of the worst service of any kind on SAS flights. (I try to connect in Zurich on Swiss now on flights to Scandinavia). SAS provides a great product in terms of design and meals, but the service is terrible. I have a had a lot of discussions with SAS employees and Swedish friends about this and they all agree that this is due to terrible labor/management relations. SAS is primarily owned by Sweden, Denmark and Norway, and each country has their own unions. As a result SAS has probably the most complicated labor structure of any airline and the battles over the last 20 years have been fierce. It's too bad that management and labor can't find a way to works things out, because with the current product...as nice as it is...they are not competitive.
I don't get the obsession with friendly crew, I prefer not to interact with them anymore than necessary and I couldn't care less if they smile or not as long as they're efficient.
I don't understand why people continue flying SAS Business.
SAS Business has become a self-serving class, they even remind you that you can "visit them in the galley" before take off. Try entering galley in business class at other airlines.
The service level is generally low in Scandinavia Airlies, yes the cabin in the old planes has been upgraded, they did forget to upgrade the staff...
Sorry you didn't have a good flight Sigger. I've had two great SAS flights recently and found the crews very nice and accommodating. Of course every flight is different.
http://www.rewardflying.com/report-blog/2016/10/8/sas-a330-business-class-arn-ord
http://www.rewardflying.com/report-blog/2016/5/31/sas-a340-business-class
I just arrived back from 8A (you can find my review here (http://luxurylifttodrag.com/blog/2016/7/31/sas-business-class-a330), I actually did not find the seats to be that accommodating to having conversations with nearby passengers. This is one reason I enjoy these shell seats when traveling alone. If you're traveling in a group, because these seats are not angled, it makes it more difficult to be able to structure your seating arrangement so that you can interact.
Many thanks for this great review, I am traveling EWR to ARN next summer in a group of 4. I have a pretty easy question: how easy do the pods make talking and conversing with nearby passengers? For example, with the staggering, would it be possible to easily chat across the aisle? I'm just curious what seat arrangement would be best for a group of 4. Thank you!
Window and center seats are slightly staggered as you stated. I was in 4A and the center seats were slightly behind me. I couldn't see the occupants because you have the structure of the pod blocking the view. The window seats on the aisle would be easier, but then you have the center seats next to you shifted over and that pod blocks the view. However sitting in the two center seats you can easily...
Window and center seats are slightly staggered as you stated. I was in 4A and the center seats were slightly behind me. I couldn't see the occupants because you have the structure of the pod blocking the view. The window seats on the aisle would be easier, but then you have the center seats next to you shifted over and that pod blocks the view. However sitting in the two center seats you can easily communicate with the person next to you. I can attest as the two next to me on the way to PEK decided to talk all night while I was trying to sleep! You are probably better off splitting in 2's and taking two rows in the center. On SAS again in a couple weeks, will take a closer look. Hope this helps,
I think it is way over-rated based on my experience with them.
It used to be a great product, where trained personnel would take care of you,
it is like the Eco Plus class has received all attention after introduction.
Hi Lucky,
Great review. I fly SAS many times every year ex-Dulles since my wife is from Norway. We've flown economy, economy plus and business many times. The service is usually a little better than what you've described, but you're also witnessing a little bit of the Scandinavian 'way'. Like Russia, it's simply not in their nature to be exuberant or proactively happy (the idea of forcing a false sense of bubbliness just isn't common...
Hi Lucky,
Great review. I fly SAS many times every year ex-Dulles since my wife is from Norway. We've flown economy, economy plus and business many times. The service is usually a little better than what you've described, but you're also witnessing a little bit of the Scandinavian 'way'. Like Russia, it's simply not in their nature to be exuberant or proactively happy (the idea of forcing a false sense of bubbliness just isn't common in Scandinavia even in the service sector). That said, you still probably got a crew on a bad day or just some established lifers.
Another note on the bedding, just as an FYI. Although the bedding provided may not have been good compared to other airline bedding, Hastens is probably the highest end mattress manufacturer in the world with mattresses starting around $20,000 and going up to $100,000. They're a Swedish brand, but sell to the 1% of the 1%. Even if their airline offerings are abysmal, it's worth noting that SAS has made a pretty impressive partnership with what could be described as 'the Krug' in the mattress and bedding world (Westin Heavenly bedding would be the "Duc de Paris" compared to Hastens--at least when you're on the ground).
In June I flew SAS business CPH-ORD both ways. The seat and food was great! Service was good on the outbound flight, but less so on the return.
The true window seats are just awesome. The size of the foot cubby did not bother me, and I am 191 cm.
What did bother me was the wear of the seat. It had many scratches despite being around a year old. I also found...
In June I flew SAS business CPH-ORD both ways. The seat and food was great! Service was good on the outbound flight, but less so on the return.
The true window seats are just awesome. The size of the foot cubby did not bother me, and I am 191 cm.
What did bother me was the wear of the seat. It had many scratches despite being around a year old. I also found the cabin to be very dark on the outbound flight - which was a day flight. With all window screens down and most cabin lights off it was just a little too dark and dungeon-like.
I would love to try those Mikkeller beers, but sucks that you got such a surly cabin crew, as the rest of the inflight product seems pretty satisfactory.
SAS is pretty widely recognized for having the most "US-airline-like" service of any of the European majors. Thanks to their aggressive unions (way more militant than anything we have on this side of the pond), you have the same embittered 'lifers' working the most prestigious long-haul routes. Smiles are rare, service is generally bare minimum, corners are cut very often, and many crew members have the same just-rolled-out-of-bed look you see on AA and UA....
SAS is pretty widely recognized for having the most "US-airline-like" service of any of the European majors. Thanks to their aggressive unions (way more militant than anything we have on this side of the pond), you have the same embittered 'lifers' working the most prestigious long-haul routes. Smiles are rare, service is generally bare minimum, corners are cut very often, and many crew members have the same just-rolled-out-of-bed look you see on AA and UA. The focus is generally on completing things quickly so they can sit down for the rest of the flight.
I can understand wanting to try the new cabin product, and it looks like the food was considerably better than what you'd get in J on American or United. You'd be hard-pressed, however, to find anyone who flies SAS for its friendly and professional crews.
Them socks.
Sorry but you don't know your cheeses. Definitely not Roquefort. And Roquefort goat cheese makes no sense. Maybe you just meant to say chevre.
@ M -- I was going off what the menu listed.
@Paul Dude thats your browser adjust your adware. I find Scandinavians to cordial but not friendly in the air.
Great review, the crew can be a hit or miss. Sometimes you get the best crew ever and other times the experience is what you had.
Why didn't you review the exceptional beers they serve on board? I love the special beers from Mikkeller only served on board SAS flights. The large bottles are awesome! :)
What does it mean to proactively serve fruit?
@ Unhoeflich -- It means we didn't ask for it, but it was automatically served with the dessert.
I generally wear the amenity socks over my socks.
i 'm flying to Bergen, NO in August and last month I had the choice booking an award J seat on SAS out of SFO or NZ out of LAX. After this review, I'm glad I booked NZ J on the 77W. Overall, the NZ J hard and soft product looks better.
I really enjoy reading your trip reviews.
Because of your favorable review of AA First from SYD-LAX, I will be trying it in January.
Have you flown in Air France's new First suite ?
Looks great. Sofitel "My Bed", etc.
Looking forward to more trip reviews.
Thanks.
Flown SAS intra-Europe in business (which isn't saying much if you're aware of what their business class 'product' is). Crew were very friendly, and provided great service. I'm also not from any of the Nordic countries, so that can't have been a factor.
I'm going to take the SAS A330 business class from HKG to ARN in a few weeks time so this report is really timely! Thanks for all the details and pictures Lucky and I do hope I am "Lucky" enough to have more friendly crew on my flight!
"I had a roll, while Ford had a slice of bread."
Alan Bennett meets E. J. Thribb.
Cool
How easy is it to converse with the person next to you if you are in the center seats? From your pics it looks like you would have to lean forward quite a bit...is that the case? Thx
That muffin looks more like a crumpet than a muffin!
Thanks again for the great report. Love your detail on food and wine.
OMG what's going on with the awful pop up advertising appearing over the top of each picture ? Very intrusive and annoying !
oops, I thought the foot room was ample,
"Our taxi to our arrival gate took just five minutes, and we taxied past a Thai Airways 777-300R."
I think you meant 777-300ER...
One wheel hitting the ground way before the other is indicative of the pilot dealing with a very strong crosswind. Judging by the flatness of all the airport photos you've posted, I'd bet that was the case.
My experience on SAS was similar although I like the seat better than you and the food less than you. Agree on the FA's. I flew the CPH-PEK route on an A340. Was impressed with the cabin as it was immaculate for a 10+ year old aircraft. My wifi didn't work at all. The crew was pleasant but dutiful, they didn't partake in any conversation. Maybe it was a language barrier. Definitely agree on the...
My experience on SAS was similar although I like the seat better than you and the food less than you. Agree on the FA's. I flew the CPH-PEK route on an A340. Was impressed with the cabin as it was immaculate for a 10+ year old aircraft. My wifi didn't work at all. The crew was pleasant but dutiful, they didn't partake in any conversation. Maybe it was a language barrier. Definitely agree on the "chef". Simply one of the FA's changing uniforms for the food service. Also my service was done on carts, not trolleys. The Vantage XL seat was the winner for me. I had a window seat and it was private. I thought the food room was ample, certainly better than a standard Vantage seat, which I had just flown on Austrian the day before. Also really like the IFE system. Overall SAS has been one of my better business class experiences.
http://www.rewardflying.com/report-blog/2016/5/31/sas-a340-business-class
that's a really cool beer list...
Lucky, were you able to get a sense of the pricing for the upgrade they were offering in line? I'd probably pay if it weren't ridiculously priced, but curious to know what that runs.
@ RCB -- I only heard the price for economy to premium economy, and think it was something like ~$130, which seems very reasonable.
Are you wearing socks in the lavatory? What happened to the OCD?
@ Arcanum -- Hah, while I'd usually wear slippers, I'm not totally opposed to wearing socks in lavatories, though I'm careful where I step. I change my socks often, so doesn't bother me too much.
Foot Cardigan socks! I have those!
Have never flown SAS but just experienced United service on SFO-SIN flight...yeah, a smile would be nice on a 15hr 39min flight.
Not sure how long you have in Stockholm, but I visited for the first time ever this past Spring and loved it. For some reason I had the impression (wrongly) that Swedes weren't the friendliest of the Scandinavians, but that was proved wrong over and over again. Such a beautiful city with great food and people.
Overall I am a huge SAS fan, however I did fly the A330 on a route via EWR to ARN last year (and I plan to in a few weeks). For how much the upgrade is ~$500 ahead of time on OptionTown.com, I would rather fly Premium Economy, the value in their Business Class just is not worth it, in my opinion. The food is excellent, yes, but I also enjoy the seats closest to...
Overall I am a huge SAS fan, however I did fly the A330 on a route via EWR to ARN last year (and I plan to in a few weeks). For how much the upgrade is ~$500 ahead of time on OptionTown.com, I would rather fly Premium Economy, the value in their Business Class just is not worth it, in my opinion. The food is excellent, yes, but I also enjoy the seats closest to the window the most and the issue with that is the cocoon problem. I am not claustrophobic in any way but that seat gave me some serious anxiety.
Live in Copenhagen, from NYC, fly back and forth a few times a year. This sounds like a below average crew. Most of the time they're friendly enough, maybe a little forgetful or not ultra proactive, but smiling and happy to help once reminded. The food is almost always good, especially fantastic when flying out of Scandinavia. Lounges in CPH and ARN are pretty great. The dinner service takes way too long on flights out...
Live in Copenhagen, from NYC, fly back and forth a few times a year. This sounds like a below average crew. Most of the time they're friendly enough, maybe a little forgetful or not ultra proactive, but smiling and happy to help once reminded. The food is almost always good, especially fantastic when flying out of Scandinavia. Lounges in CPH and ARN are pretty great. The dinner service takes way too long on flights out of the East Coast. It's totally fine to have a 2.5 hour lunch on a lunch flight from CPH, but coming from New York there's almost no opportunity to sleep before breakfast starts. Finally, the lounge at EWR is a mess as it's tiny and their CPH, ARN, and OSL flights all basically leave at the same time.