Why Hyatt Globalist Is My Favorite Hotel Status

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Over the past couple of years we’ve seen some significant changes to hotel loyalty programs. Some hotel loyalty programs have upped their game, while others have gotten worse. Currently I’m primarily loyal to Hyatt and Marriott.

Last year I wrote a post about why Globalist status with World of Hyatt is my favorite top tier hotel status. I wanted to update that post, in light of what has changed (both with Hyatt and other hotel groups), especially as we’ve seen Marriott Bonvoy formally launched earlier this year.

I’d note that when World of Hyatt launched a bit over two years ago (the program was formerly known as Hyatt Gold Passport) a lot of members were frustrated. Fortunately Hyatt’s management has listened to feedback, and I’d say things have improved significantly.

World of Hyatt Globalist benefits

Hyatt has some things working against them. In particular, their footprint isn’t nearly as large as that of Hilton, IHG, or Marriott. However, they’ve really created a very compelling loyalty program, to the point that I think it’s worth going for top tier status with them.

What I appreciate about Hyatt is the emphasis they place on consistently delivering benefits. While no loyalty program is perfect (especially when you consider that hotels are mostly individually owned), Hyatt does the best job in this regard, in my opinion.

So, why do I like World of Hyatt Globalist status so much?

Unlimited complimentary suite upgrades

World of Hyatt offers Globalist members unlimited suite upgrades subject to availability. For the most part I’ve found that Hyatt is the most consistent of any hotel group when it comes to delivering on this benefit.

As you might expect, at the Andaz Maui or Grand Hyatt New York you may have trouble scoring a space available suite upgrade, while at other properties it’s a near sure bet.


I received a suite upgrade at the Hyatt Regency Dushanbe

Four confirmed suite upgrades per year

The area where Hyatt’s upgrade policy really shines is with the Globalist confirmed suite upgrades. Just for being a Globalist member you receive four confirmed suite upgrades per year, each of which can be used to confirm a suite upgrade at the time of booking for a stay of up to seven consecutive nights.

The reason I love this benefit so much is because it allows me to upgrade those stays that matter the most to me, where I really value a suite. For example, last year I was able to lock in suite upgrades at the time of booking for stays at Park Hyatt Paris, Park Hyatt Milan, and Park Hyatt St. Kitts, and those are the three stays that matter most to me.


The suite upgrade I received at the Park Hyatt Paris Vendome

The best status breakfast benefit

As far as I’m concerned, Hyatt offers the best top tier elite breakfast benefit of any hotel group, given that they offer full breakfast at all hotels. Marriott has excluded brands, Hilton offers continental breakfast, and IHG doesn’t offer any real breakfast benefit.

With Hyatt you get access to the club lounge when there is one. For those hotels without a club lounge you get a full, hot breakfast in the restaurant. The way this is executed varies by hotel. At some hotels you have access to the buffet, at other hotels you can get room service, and at other hotels you can order anything off the menu.


Amazing breakfast at the Park Hyatt Milan

Guaranteed 4PM check-out

Globalist members receive guaranteed 4PM check-out. This benefit is subject to availability at resorts, but it’s guaranteed at other hotels. A benefit is most valuable when guaranteed, so being able to stay 4-5 hours beyond the typical check-out time is great.

Guest of Honor bookings

Hyatt has what’s called the Guest of Honor benefit, where Globalist members can redeem points for a friend or family member, and when they do, that guest inherits Globalist benefits for that stay. This is such a great reward.

Anyone who spends a lot of time on the road wants their family to travel comfortably as well, which is why I love this perk so much.


Being able to extend elite perks to friends and family is pretty awesome

Waived resort fees on all stays

Resort fees (or destination fees, or facility fees) are one of the most annoying trends in the hotel industry. We’ve seen these added at so many hotels.

The good thing is that as a Hyatt Globalist member you never have to worry about these, as you’re exempt from them, regardless of whether on a cash or points booking.

Globalist members receive waived resort fees at the Andaz Maui

Waived parking fees on award stays

For those cases where you do redeem points, Globalist members don’t have to pay for on-property parking. This even applies if you’re parking in New York or San Francisco, where it might otherwise cost $50+. While I don’t use this benefit much, when I do, it saves me a lot of money.

Sometimes this is also the deciding factor for me when trying to choose between paying cash or redeeming points for a stay.

Two free nights annually

Every year for earning Globalist status you get a total of two free night certificates:

  • You get a Category 1-4 free night certificate when you earn Explorist status
  • You get a Category 1-7 free night certificate when you earn Globalist status

Stays at those hotels could cost up to 15,000 and 30,000 points, respectively, so that’s potentially a value of up to 45,000 points per year.


I used my free night certificate at the Park Hyatt Sydney last points

Significant luxury expansion

One of Hyatt’s biggest challenges has been their relatively small portfolio compared to competitors. Not only have they not organically been growing as fast as their competitors, but many of their new properties have been limited service properties.

The great news is that Hyatt has gotten innovative in adding luxury properties:


Alila Fort-Bishangarh

American Airlines partnership

While I wouldn’t call this a game changer, I do appreciate the partnership that American AAdvantage & World of Hyatt recently launched. As an elite member with both programs, I’m earning one American mile per dollar spent with Hyatt, and one Hyatt point per dollar spent with American.

For some members there are even reciprocal status opportunities. For example, American’s invitation-only Concierge Key members receive Globalist status for free.


I earn bonus points through the American & Hyatt partnership

The ability to transfer points from Chase

Globalist status comes with so many great perks, but one of the issues is often that you wish you had more points you could redeem so you could enjoy these perks.

The good news is that World of Hyatt is a 1:1 Chase Ultimate Rewards transfer partner, so you have several additional ways of earning points. For example, you can transfer points from:

See this post for all the best ways to earn Hyatt points.

Combine points between Hyatt accounts

While this isn’t specifically a Globalist benefit, one other great thing about World of Hyatt is how easily you can combine points between accounts.

Sometimes you don’t have enough points for a redemption, and in those cases you have the opportunity to transfer an unlimited number of points to another member at no cost. There are two restrictions to be aware of, though:

  • You can only transfer points to another member “in order to have a sufficient number of points to redeem a particular award”
  • You can only combine points (regardless of whether you’re sending or receiving) once every 30 days

What I don’t love about World of Hyatt

The above are the biggest reasons I love Hyatt Globalist status, though let me also share a couple of things I don’t love about the program:

  • Actual points earning rates for hotels are pretty weak; as a Globalist member you earn 6.5x points per dollar spent, which isn’t that great
  • Hyatt doesn’t offer very many global promotions nowadays to earn bonus points, especially compared to Hilton Honors, for example
  • While Hyatt has improved in this area, their portfolio is still quite small compared to Hilton, IHG, and Marriott

The World of Hyatt Credit Card

Last year The World of Hyatt Credit Card was introduced, which I’ve reviewed in detail. This card is fantastic for so many reasons, from free night certificates to fast tracks to status, making it one of the best hotel credit cards.

Arguably the single best improvement we’ve seen with this card, and why I think it’s the best credit card for Hyatt loyalists, is that they’ve made it easier to earn Globalist status. At this point you could even earn Globalist status entirely through credit card spending, if you wanted to.

Personally I think the ideal strategy is to earn Globalist status through a combination of credit card spending and actual stays. After all, if you’re not actually staying at Hyatts much, what’s the point of earning status?

Earning Globalist status with Hyatt’s credit card

It takes 60 elite nights to earn Globalist status. Even award stays count towards status, so it’s awesome that redeeming points will get you closer to Globalist status.

With The World of Hyatt Credit Card you receive five elite nights towards status annually just for having the card, plus an additional two elite nights for every $5,000 you spend on the card.

This means that if you wanted to, you could spend your way all the way to Globalist status. Spending $140,000 on the card would earn you Globalist status, since you’d earn 56 elite qualifying nights through the spending, plus the five elite nights you get just for having the card.

In reality I don’t recommend completely doing that, but rather some combination of credit card spend and actual stays can help you achieve Globalist status without too much effort.

For example, say you instead spend $50,000 on the card in a year. You’d earn a total of 25 elite nights towards status, which would mean you’d only have to earn another 35 elite nights, which is much more attainable.

Château de Fère, France, a Small Luxury Hotels of the World property

Hyatt Globalist summary

When the World of Hyatt program was first introduced I wasn’t a fan of it, but Hyatt has made some significant improvements to the program since it was introduced, including the ability to earn elite nights with their credit card, earning elite credits on award stays, extending the expiration of suite upgrades, and more.

At this point I think World of Hyatt Globalist status is the single most valuable top tier hotel status, and The World of Hyatt Credit Card makes that easier than ever before. With the introduction of Marriott Bonvoy I’m even more of a fan of World of Hyatt than in the past.

Of course I understand for a lot of people it’s just not practical to be loyal to Hyatt, given their relatively small global footprint.

What do you consider to be the most valuable top tier hotel status?

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  1. Maybe it’s just me but if Hyatt actually gets any traction with their year-end deal with Fine Hotel group(many of which are very expensive) Globalist(and likely Explorist) should(repeat, should) become much more valuable.
    Guess we will have to wait to see what hotels actually step up the plate and participate.

  2. Was this post seriously necesssry ?? We all know all the bloggers are in Hyatt’s pocket, and even with the recent changes to their credit card Hyatt still has a Napoleon complex and thinks (incorrectly) that they can compete with the big boys/girls.

  3. Best balance is:

    5 nights from just having WOH credit card
    6 nights from spending $15K on WOH credit card
    1 free night Cat4 from spending $15K on WOH credit card
    1 free night Cat4 on anniversary just for having WOH credit card
    1 free night Cat4 at 30 nights
    1 free night Cat7 at 55 nights
    40 other nights using points, point+cash, Citi 4th stays, etc

    *parking free only on free night awards (you section title says all stays)

  4. Hyatt only works for bloggers. Sorry but if you have a normal business life it is almost impossible to achieve top elite status with Hyatt due to their small footprint of properties. I stay probably 100 nights/year at hotels and there is no way I could achieve top status with Hyatt. Although I love their properties it does not work for my needs.

  5. I know what you mean Santastico… though I recall even some bloggers writing having to do mattress runs at Hyatt House just to get Globalist status again.

  6. even in the major business destinations like Shanghai, their coverage absolutely pales on the luxury front :

    Hyatt (4) – 1 x PH, 1 x Andaz, 1x GH, 1x Hyatt-on-the-Bund (not sure if I could lump the last one here because the ADR of that property isn’t in the same class as the rest)

    Marriott (10) – 2 x RitzC, 1 x St.R, 1 x W, 2 x LuxC, 1x Design, 1x EDITION, 2 x JW

    Marriott-haters (like most of the losers on Flyertalk) kept yapping about how Marriott is all about limited-service junk like Fairfield Inn blah blah blah, but truth of matter is, even when just comparing luxury class, Marriott-Starwood wins by a mile.

    and this is already a metro where Hyatt group has decent coverage. The difference at locales like HKG is even more stark when the there’s only a single Grand Hyatt in the luxury class to talk about.

  7. Couldn’t agree more with each of your points. And yes- I like posts that confirm I’m still making smart travel decisions!!

  8. Are you sure a re-qualifying Globalist gets the free night at 55 nights? The way the rules read it seems you qualify for Globalist at 55 but still need 60 for the free night. Have you verified the free night at 55?

  9. Looking at $140k spend on the card to get Globalist in year 1. Say I want to achieve by paying my taxes, at a cost of 2%, for a total cost of $2,800 (let’s ignore the opportunity cost of putting that same spend on a different card, and just see what I would get for that).

    First, I get at least 140,000 points for the spend. Then from the free night certificates I get the equivalent of another 75,000 points (1 Cat4 for having the card, 1 Cat4 for $15k spend, 1 Cat4 at 30 nights, and 1 Cat7 at 55 nights). Assuming a value of 1.5cpp, that is $3,225.

    Doesn’t this strategy pay for itself, even before any of the other benefits of Globalist? Am I missing something? (of course, you have to have $140k in taxes to utilize this strategy).

  10. @ listen – GREAT breakdown!! (Free nights counting is assuming they are used that year I take it.)

    @ Lucky – I have Explorist status thru company travel site promo and Globalist if I stay 20 nights in the next 90 days and have it all next year. They do have a small foot print, but their international locations are great – Sydney, Paris, etc. Domestically their Hyatt Place in Asheville, NC is frequently $200+/night (especially in the fall), but last time I looked a great redemption rate at points. I want to say 5,000 points and I love a lot of their Hyatts in Florida.

  11. Agree with you, Lucky, a 100%! It’s good to see they have responded to feedback to better their services and features of the program.

  12. Stop writing about Hyatt, we don’t want any of the SPG fan boys coming over. I agree with you Ben 100%.

  13. The small footprint for Hyatt is only part of the issue. Traveling for business even where they do have a decent choice I often find them to be in less-than-ideal locations. In Beijing the Park Hyatt is on the wrong side of the road from the CBD/WTC (and the Grand Hyatt is even farther away). In Shanghai the Park Hyatt and the Grand Hyatt next to it may be a good location for some, but I need to be closer to Tomorrow Square. In Rio, the Grand Hyatt is just in a terrible location for business travelers. There are a few exceptions (Grand Hyatt New York and Park Hyatt Hyderabad come to mind).

  14. @Lucky not sure if you’ll ready this, but this is an honest question. I read a lot on here and TPG about suites and getting suite upgrades as a top tier elite, and how lovely they are, etc. Are they really valuable as a solo traveler, or even as a couple? I spend literally zero time in hotel rooms besides sleeping, showering, and maybe a little TV right before sleeping. I’m out in town either working (for a business trip) or sightseeing/beach (if I’m on vacation). What value do you get out of a huge suite other than it looks really nice? I can see the value of privacy and space if I bring my kids or friends with me, but I rarely do.

  15. Thanks for the great post Lucky. Chase is the glue that binds this all together, only decent place to earn hotel points from a broad array of credit card spend… if they lost that I would probably drop Hyatt status.

  16. Lucky, I couldn’t agree with you more. No other program comes even close to the World of Hyatt. My only complaint is the world’s ugliest logo that looks like a child made it 🙂
    If things work out well with SLH, it will be almost too good to be true.

  17. @Jay while you are correct that nobody really needs a giant suite when traveling solo (I often ask them to downgrade me to a smaller room), the status helps me get bigger rooms when traveling with friends and family, get better rooms (ocean view, balcony, etc). Add free breakfast and guaranteed availability and, in my opinion, it’s totally worth it.

  18. I realize that everyone has different priorities, but as a solo, self employed business traveler, I agree with @Jay. If suite upgrades (highly over rated IMO) were the only reason I was pursuing status with this hotel chain, it would seem rather a waste of credit card spend and/or hotel spend given that other cards and hotels offer a better return on spend. I spend only 80 nights per year in hotels and top tier hotel loyalty is almost impossible to achieve given my travel patterns but even more crazy to pursue, given the loss of bonus spend I get from other card products.

  19. It is only a few weeks since you wrote about this. Gets old very fast. The trip reports are interesting, but the proportion of posts promoting credit cards is now simply stupidly high.

  20. Hmmmm…..here is a parade that deserves to be rained on.

    — The WoH Gloablist status is too tough to achieve for most, considering the program’s tiny footprint. Not only that, but maybe worse, it costs an arm and a leg to achieve, which makes achieving the status a ‘Pyrrhic victory”: you get it but spend so much in the process that it nullifies the primary rationale for playing the mile/point game, which, for most, is to lower the costs of leisure travel .

    — Unless the rules changed very recently, WoH globalists do not get the absolute top perk (better than suite upgrades) in my book: 5th award night free, whose effect is to substantively to dramatically lower the costs or increase the redemption value of award travel.

    All the other perks can be argued as YMMV. E.g., “Best Breakfast”; it’s offered only to Globalists in a 3-tiered program, which means that it is cheaper to offer more stuff with it. But as one who travels primarily internationally to countries where breakfast for HH elites (golds and diamonds) can be had in the restaurant EVEN WHEN THERE IS A CLUB LOUNGE, I often have free breakfast that is nothing short of a royal feast. So, as great as it maybe, the fact that no other elite level in the program can enjoy free breakfast speaks to the overall weakness of the program. “Point transfers”? Hilton took that to a new level with “point pooling” …

    I could go on but that should put a good chink in the armor… Oh, did I mention the small footprint 😉

  21. I capitalized “EVEN WHEN THERE IS A CLUB LOUNGE” in the previous comment but did not elaborate because I was not sure I was interpreting correctly the WoH policy on free breakfast, which I just looked at carefully for the first time. Here is what it says:

    “Relax in the Club lounge with continental breakfast and evening hors d’oeuvres daily. Or, enjoy complimentary full breakfast daily for each registered guest (up to 2 adults and 2 children) at Hyatt hotels and resorts without a Club lounge.”

    A clear “either/or” clause?

    Correct me if I am wrong but that sounds to me like WoH Globalists are “entitled” to continental breakfast at properties that have a Club lounge, but can be “upgraded” to have complimentary full breakfast in a restaurant ONLY at properties that do not have a Club lounge. If I am reading that correctly than you can see that the consequence would be dramatically lower the claimed overall “value” of that much-touted perk. When you have the coveted Club lounge, you do not get the “greatest” full breakfast and when you get the “greatest” full breakfast there is no Club lounge. How many Hyatt properties do not have a Club lounge, anyway?

    G’day

  22. I believe all Park Hyatts do not have a club lounge; at least none that I have been to and I have stayed at over a dozen. At some you even have the option of a room service breakfast. At Park Hyatt Tokyo you can get a free room service coffee service in the morning and still go to the restaurant for breakfast. Grand Hyatts and Hyatt Regencies are more varied, but in my experience more often than not have a lounge. Sometimes I like that better than a restaurant if the lounge is good. With a lounge you can access it all day long for water, soft drinks, and snacks. I love the benefit of free breakfast or lounge access. Also, the no resort fees. One area that could be improved is to offer something extra at Hyatt Places; all you get now is a free daily bottle of water.

  23. Re: the club lounge. No, Hyatts, Park Hyatts, Grand Hyatts or Hyatt Regencys are not required to have one. I stayed in a Hyatt Regency just this week that had no Regency Club.

    @Jay, as a solo traveler, no, I do not think the suite upgrades are worth it. I have been top tier for years, and I never get to use my suite upgrades, the properties make them so hard to use.

    @Gene I agree about the SPG fanboys. They are all over FT these days bemoaning the loss of their precious Starwood. (I am top tier in both programs.) As far as on property treatment, I agree Starwood is the best, but Starwood customer service and IT is way, way behind Hyatt, so overall I think Hyatt is the best. However, the name “globalist” still HAS to go!

    @Ben I think it is absolute BS that you push this card w/o mentioning the gigantic amount of spending it would take to achieve Globalist status via CC spending.

  24. @Joseph N sez: “@Ben I think it is absolute BS that you push this card w/o mentioning the gigantic amount of spending it would take to achieve Globalist status via CC spending.”

    But, come on, let’s be fair! @Lucky did mention the amounts that make the WoH Globalist status “easier than ever before to earn”!

    Setting aside the fact that many who play the game do not even make these amounts a whole year, one simply needs to spend, and I quote from post above:

    — $140,000 to earn Globalist status, assuming you don’t have the status already ($140,000 of spend gets you 56 elite qualifying nights, plus the five you get just for having the card)
    — $125,000 for requalifying for Globalist status ($125,000 of spend gets you 50 elite qualifying nights, plus the five you get just for having the card).
    ____________

    Now get this, for $450 in annual fee to get and hold onto an unmentionable credit card, one earns a compelling top elite status that offers (please really review these perks on your own):

    — a ‘yuge’ footprint
    — guaranteed free continental breakfast on the ‘continent’, FULL free breakfast almost everywhere else
    — guarantee Executive or Club lounge access where there is one
    — guaranteed upgrade to the Executive floor where there is one
    — unlimited complimentary suite upgrades when available
    — a $250 resort credit
    — a $250 airline credit,
    — “Diamond Force” when the chips are down
    — 5th award night free
    — a free night certificate for use at ANY category hotel
    — an additional free night certificate for use at ANY category hotel after spending $60K
    — 10K bonus points after reaching 40 nights, and award nights count!
    — 10K bonus points every 10 nights after reaching 40 nights with NO CAP
    — 30K additional bonus points when one reaches 60 nights
    — ability to gift Gold status at 60 nights and Diamond at 100 nights
    — ability to pool points with up to ten (10!) people makes it unnecessary to transfer points.
    — Priority Pass lounge access.
    — Whopping and industry-leading 14X for on-property spend paid with the unmentionable CC.
    — and more.

    And, do you know what? We are to believe that the status that one gets for “just” $450 (nt $125K or $140K) and offers the long list of truly compelling perks just provided has “weak” benefits. Yeah, right, ONLY in the “Twilight Zone” that is travel blogosphere and its ‘priesthood’ of self-anointed travel gurus!

    G’day!

  25. And yet Lucky had a nervous breakdown when Hyatt announced a shortcut to the globalist status last year.

  26. @DCS

    Yeah, the more I think about it the more I really like my Hilton Aspire card. I just booked my free night certificate for a Saturday night stay at The London NYC, which was “sold out,” but the agent found me a room because I’m Diamond. That’s a ~$500 room otherwise.

  27. I understand that Hyatt treats their top tier guys very nicely. I think multiple posts by other bloggers cement that but the footprint is a real issue. Their primary growth is in China which for most people doesn’t do any good.

    Unless your travels take you to places like NYC and LA, I think Hyatt’s footprint requires one to be loyal. You almost need to go out of your way to stay there on purpose. Even then, they might have only 1 hotel in that city and if it’s crazy pricing that time of year, you can’t justify that when you are traveling on business.

    Toronto for example has 1 Hyatt. They had 2 but the Park Hyatt was so outdated they finally closed it to fully renovate it. If I go during the winter months which I often do, downtown pricing can be >$400CA a night which makes it a tough sell to stay there. Wheres with Marriott/SPG, I have 10 choices so I can always find something.

    To make matters worse, Hyatt’s growth seems to be with limited service hotels where the benefits are muted.

    I can see why Hyatt offers the benefits they do because you have to really push it to be loyal but for the average business traveler and consumer who wants options to use their points, Hyatt makes that very tough. You almost need to plan your vacation around where a Hyatt is rather than pick a spot and know you’ll be guaranteed an option from your chosen hotel group.

  28. @DCS

    For most of us that have had Hilton Diamond status, we all know how weakly they treat their Diamond guests. There were many times i wasn’t even recognized. When you are willing to effectively give away the status for $450 annual fee, you are basically adding a ton of elites to the pool which dilute the real benefits. I tried Hilton as a Diamond for several years but after frustratingly dealing with them and not ever really seeing much of a benefit, I switched my backup program to SPG and while I had to fight for some benefits (suites primarily), the level of treatment I got was astonishingly different. Is the Hilton card good? yes but if you are willing to basically dilute the benefits down by given away your top tier for $450, then what does that say to your guests who actually work to stay loyal to the brand? The 100 night road warrior? It says we don’t value you.

  29. @Jay – Right on, that’s what I am talkin’ ’bout!

    Glad that you believed your own lyin’ eyes and avoided predicating your satisfaction with Hilton Honors with any of the usual obligatory but bogus caveats (e.g., awards require too many points!), because in the real world and especially with the new ASPIRE card, the program is by far the most compelling hotel loyalty program out there, by any OBJECTIVE measure.

    Another aspect of the program that sets it apart from all the others, which I did not get into above, is the fact that it’s the only program that has continued to offer compelling promos, consistently. For example, my last stay a month ago was a 5-night revenue stay in Honolulu at the “Grand Islander by Hilton Grant Vacations (HGV)”, where I earned lots points despite the fact that HGV has been a separate company from Hilton Worldwide since January (but still participates in HHonors). The following posted:

    — MYWAY PREFERENCES BONUS OPTION – The Grand Islander by Hilton Grand Vacations: 2000
    — DIAMOND ELITE 100% BONUS – The Grand Islander by Hilton Grand Vacations: 20409
    — Base Points – The Grand Islander by Hilton Grand Vacations: 20409
    — 2018 HH2 JULY AMEX BONUS OFFER – The Grand Islander by Hilton Grand Vacations: 20409
    — 2018 HH2 DOUBLE POINTS OFFER – The Grand Islander by Hilton Grand Vacations: 20409

    You can see that the last two entries are from stackable promos that offer 2X each or a total of 4X , before I even included the points from the Aspire totaling 1.4 * base! I earned ~100K points for the stay…

    …and, yet, just the other day, self-anointed ‘thought leader in travel’ had this great insight to offer in claiming that “hotel promotions are on life support”:

    “Hotel occupancy and rates are up year-over-year and last year was a record ***don’t expect good hotel promotions soon.***”

    Yeah, right.

    Cue in the “Twilight Zone” theme music!

    G’day.

  30. @Shiloah — I cannot help you if you were not able to make the most of your Hilton Honors status, despite the great perks that require not “special treatment”. The perks are there for those who can take advantage of them to enjoy. I suspect that after being brain-washed with how Hilton Honors was a “weak program”, you simply failed to see, appreciate and seize the many opportunity that program offered you. It is called the “power of negative thinking.”

    Since SPG, your best program is now dead and buried (demise of the strongest?), I guess you will argue that it makes sense to spend $125K or $140K per year to earn top status in a program, WoH, that offers much less than a status that would cost just $450 in a much-maligned but very much alive and thriving program. BTW, did you know that SPG was, when it was being touted as the best program, the most expensive program to patronize? I didn’t think so, but…

    …YMMV!

  31. @shane — Your language is straight out of a random travel blog, word for word.

    Now, look above at the list of benefits offered by Hilton Honors, set it side by side with benefits that you believe WoH offers that make the program as compelling you have been convinced it it, and then call me in the morning after finally smelling the coffee 😉

  32. I remember very recently that the bloggers were still decrying Hyatt devaluation disguised as WoH enhancements. Why the change of heart all of the sudden? The Globalist benefits are great but they went from essentially 25 nights (stays) to 60 – a 240% increase (or devaluation of qualification) on top of their small print. No matter how nice “the enhancements” are, the value proposition is not there. Some properties were still oblivious about the corporate intention and kept on playing games with benefits, including Globalist benefits.

    Still, the Points+Cash value at certain properties remains the best in the industry. However, this is the last year I am maintaining Globalist due to cost/benefit analysis mentioned by DCS. We burned all our Hyatt points on stays in Bangkok, Vancouver, La Jolla, San Diego, and Huntington Beach. Next year, I’m WoH Zilch! 😉

    In summation, it is much more valuable (cheaper) to get the $450 AF AMEX Aspire with its HH Diamond status than playing games with Hyatt.

  33. No, Hyatt does NOT work for the majority of people outside the US. The much-touted/pushed/unrelentingly flogged credit card is NOT available in most countries. Hyatt remains US-centric, has a very poor footprint and for many people it’s just not worth the hassle. Hyatt might be tinkering around the edges, but ,so long as that involves a credit card not widely available, they won’t be getting a cent of my money ( as a former long-term GP Diamond).

  34. For a while I was thinking of switching to SPG, but Hyatt has made Globalist more attainable with the inclusion of award nights and the new credit card. Overall I find Hyatts generally of high quality, especially in Asia, and the benefits are attractive. I feel more valued as a globalist than I did in the past with SPG as a top tier. The recent changes have definitely made World of Hyatt more attractive to me.

  35. I love that it’s tougher to get, so it means more. I love that you can just spend 20k at one of their resorts to earn it outright. For the spend, you get a few hundred thousand award points plus more if you use the Hyatt card. Between that and the perks, it’s worth a lot. One 8-10 night stay in the presidential suite at the Grand Hyatt Kauai and I’m good to be treated well at every other Hyatt stay. For the non-business large family traveler that wants suites, the program is a huge win.

  36. @Kalboz – Amen, my friend! [BTW, I agree with you WoH offers the best redemption value on C+P awards, which is why I purchase the maximum number of WoH points allowed/year, usually when they are discounted 30-40%. It pays for itself several times over].

    @Paolo – Unless you believe ANY loyalty program’s top elite status is worth spending $125K or $140 on a CC to achieve, you are not missing out for not having the US-centric WoH CC. The ‘opportunity cost’ of putting so much spend on a hotel card to earn points in a non-transferable points currency alone, IMHO, makes the whole idea prohibitively expensive.

    G’day!

  37. @Hepworth asks and then answers own question: “Doesn’t this strategy pay for itself, even before any of the other benefits of Globalist? Am I missing something? (of course, you have to have $140k in taxes to utilize this strategy).”

    Yup. Anyone with a tax bill of $140K would not need to nickel and dime by playing the game. The strategy is great as a fantasy game. It would work perfectly and pay for itself several times over if your tax bill were even larger, like $1M 😉

  38. @DCS – most successful people carefully manage their money, rather than be careless with it. They get the same benefits, just have more opportunities to utilize them. Suite upgrades may not matter much to the road warrior, but they do to the family of three or four, as it puts the kids in a separate room for no extra cost.

  39. @Hepworth — You get no argument from me on anything you just said above, except that the converse can also be true,. Some people do not manage their money carefully because fall for every hyped claim that they come across. As a result, they will go for hyped credits that they do not need, get to 5/24 in no time and then be unable to take advantage of more compelling CC offers that come along, like when the CSR was introduced; or they would believe that it makes sense to part with $125K to earn a hotel elite status because the associated program is hyped to offer superlative benefits that, in reality, are just of the garden variety.

    BTW, I rank suite upgrades very high on my list of top perks, even though I travel solo, because my stays tend to be relatively long so that the extra space is needed to avoid claustrophobia.

  40. Absolutely love Hyatt, Lucky I must have been following your footsteps I have been to all the Park Hyatt’s except St. Kitts. The Vendome actually saved my son’s wedding reception by providing a huge amount of ice to ice down the wine and champagne during a heat wave in Paris in May. The Park Hyatt Sydney went above and beyond for our 20th anniversary. I think the customer service across Hyatt’s is second to none, and when they do make a mistake they are usually wonderful about correcting it.

  41. If Hyatt could a acquire or partner to expand their footprint, and if they can make their Globalist concierge benefit worth while, then it would hands down be the best program.

    A weakness for frequent business travelers not commonly raised is that their additional (tier) benefits stop altogether at 100 nights. I’m there now and I’ll be moving my business elsewhere because they will stop providing the added incentive.

  42. I hope you do a comprehensive post on Hyatt Prive one of these days. Is booking through this program available for points? for cash only? can TSUs be applied? etc.

  43. @Theresa, I had the same question, but now I also have the answer: I recently requalified for Globalist at 55 nights and received the category 1-7 free night award and the four CSUAs almost immediately. So, no, one doesn’t need to reach 60 nights in order to receive those benefits (at least if my experience this year is any indication).

  44. @ Fellow Traveler,

    Thank you for taking the time to answer, and congrats on requalifying!

    Theresa

  45. I´d argue this is even remotely accurate. Globalists do make the lion share of their stays necessarily at a Hyatt Place because of the still hugely lagging footprint that Hyatt has. And Hyatt Place is a brand which has free breakfast anyways. So what´s it worth then to get an indeed free breakfast on the few stays at one of their rather fancy properties, such as Park Hyatt or Grand Hyatt, maybe even Hyatt Regencies?

    From my point of view hotel loyalty is useless.

  46. Oh, didnt even read that fallacy of the year, really… If I´m already spending 140k USD on a CC why on earth do I even have to care about a 20$ breakfast I´m having for free or not? Seriously. Y’all out of your mind.

  47. @Lucky at least can you summarize out what has changed from 2018?

    @John
    How is it remotely accurate?
    Just because you travel to places that only have Hyatt Place doesn’t mean others goes exclusively to Baltimore like you. (tip hat to POTUS). I’m pretty sure @Endre is enjoying his ‘paid’ suite at Park Hyatt with complimentary breakfast.

    For hotel status usefulness, Globalist is up there with the old SPG Ambassador.

  48. Bloggers have absolutely no understanding of the real world. Best value for points is staying at Hyatt Place thats normally $199 for 5,000 points. When Im on the road its Hampton Inn and Courtyard. Bloggers do not review Hampton Inn’s they are far to good to stay in those perfectly clean but basic hotels that do not offer caviar and massages at breakfast. Most people are on the go and could care less where they stay as long as its clean and productive. Bloggers think that life is a vacation for everyone with literally no sense of reality… they live in the 1% world (where Hyatt lives).

  49. All the people complaining about the small footprint…same complaining I heard about for a decade with Starwood. 100 nights a year in and out w/SPG not a problem for me. Hyatt has worked just as well – looking forward to these best in class benefits now.

    If you need to travel to Small Town USA endlessly – much like Starwood, Hyatt is not the program for you. Go ahead and settle for Marriott slightly above average mediocrity (thanks to acquisition of legacy SPG properties + better benefits), or true mediocrity w/Hilton.

    Legacy Starwood loyals – Hyatt is your new best friend! Come on over. 60 night benefits inarguably better than SPG100.

  50. @ Ben — I couldn’t agree more that Globalist is the best elite status. That is pretty much proven to me in that I am almost always very satisfied with our stays at all Hyatt brands. Regarding earn rates — using valuations of 1.5 per Hyatt point and 0.5 per IHG point, you get 9.75% back with Hyatt Globalist and 10.00% back with IC RA. I actually value Hyatt points at 1.67 and IHG points at (maybe) 0.45, so using those rates Globalist wins out 10.83% vs 9.00%. However, it does seem that IHG has way more opportunities to earn bonus points, so perhaps IHG does have a slightly better rate of return.

  51. I wish Hyatt would launch a UK credit card or at the very least become a UK Amex MR transfer partner. Seems Hyatt are not interested in the UK market.

  52. In my book, the single most ***valuable*** perk in hotel loyalty is the “5th award night free” benefit because of outsized redemption values that it enables. The nominal redemption value of my 5-night award stay at WA Maldives at the end of the year will be ~4cpp, i.e., ~10x the average redemption avenue!

    WoH will become more competitive when it too starts to give its members the 5th award night pro bono. Its small footprint, which makes it tough to qualify for Globalist, has also made WoH a “niche” program that only die-hard loyalist with the means can afford to patronize. The resulting thinning of top-tier elite members makes it infinitely cheaper for WoH to beef up top-tier elite benefits (so spare me claims about what a “generous program it it), which even then, I do not find to be significantly more lucrative than benefits that I enjoy as an Aspire HH Diamond.

  53. Re: Suite Upgrades – I have been told flat out by a Globalist phone rep that none of the Tokyo properties will accept a CSU. They may or may not upgrade the Globalist based on availability but will not tell the guest if it does happen.

    But I do believe that the Hyatt staff at nearly every property I’ve stayed at are some of the best trained and most courteous employees in the travel industry. With the exception of Four Seasons, no other hotel staff have been professional and personable than at the Hyatt.

  54. Eskimo,

    this is easy. If you need to spend 60 nights, which is 1/6 of a year or 1/4 of a years working days, in a Hyatt then there is no way you do that in the 44 Park Hyatts or 54 (if I counted right) Grand Hyatts they have. Add maybe handfull of Andaz and what other brands but that´s the fancy bits. The rest is very much everyday hotels.

    And if you´re indeed well off enough to spend a sixth of your year in Park Hyatt and Grand Hyatt hotels you wouldnt care about a free breakfast anyways.

    I´m not sure how you can possibly argue that likely 95% of globalists out there reach the 60 nights through a majority of Hyatt Place or House stays. It´s just logical. And the 5% or so that dont really should give a damn about free breakfast.

    And yes, this whole discussion is delirious. And yes, this is indeed travel bloggers living of credit card referrals and not having a clue about how the other 99% travel.

  55. @Lucky claims: “As far as I’m concerned, Hyatt offers the best top tier elite breakfast benefit of any hotel group, given that they offer full breakfast at all hotels. Marriott has excluded brands, Hilton offers continental breakfast, and IHG doesn’t offer any real breakfast benefit.

    With Hyatt you get access to the club lounge when there is one. For those hotels without a club lounge you get a full, hot breakfast in the restaurant. The way this is executed varies by hotel. At some hotels you have access to the buffet, at other hotels you can get room service, and at other hotels you can order anything off the menu.”

    That claim is not quite correct ***in practice.***

    According to the WoH T&C, free full restaurant breakfast is available ONLY at properties without a club lounge.

    By contrast, invariably outside the US, Hilton Diamonds have the ***option*** to have full restaurant breakfast, ***even when there is a club or executive lounge.*** In the US, it is hit or miss, but everywhere else what I just stated is the rule: optional free full restaurant breakfast OR limited executive lounge breakfast, even at properties that have an executive lounge. Heck, at Hilton Paris Opera last May, I exercised both options! The executive lounge, which was usually quiet and sparsely populated, was right next door to the hotel’s restaurant where full breakfast was served, so I just went to the restaurant, served myself anything that I wanted from the buffet (or had it cooked) and then carried it to the exec lounge to east.

    I have always maintained that the claimed superiority of SPG or Hyatt was based on bloggers making up their own standards. They disparage HHonors for not “guaranteeing” late check-out — a perk I have never been denied and do not find that valuable — while giving HGP or WoH a pass when the program does not offer what is *quantifiably* the single most valuable perk in hotel loyalty: 5th award night free.

    G’day!

  56. @DCS, you are delusional. Hilton diamond is not good and Hyatt Globalist is the standard in hotel loyalty. First your claim about Hyatt having a small footprint is misguided as there is a Hyatt hotel in just about every major city in the US. Second Hilton charges 40-50,000 points for Hampton inns in most citys!!!!! disgraceful! Might as well stay in a motel 6 down the road… You can find a Hyatt place in most cities for 5-8,000 Hyatt points. Third, I was a Hilton diamond 2014-2017, their breakfast benefit is commonly the “cold buffet” and their suite upgrade generosity is non-existent. Was upgraded to a suite maybe 3 times in 4 years with 150+ nights total… says a lot. Fourth, 5th night free is not that valuable… unless you have 500,000 Hilton points lying around lol. There’s a reason Hilton points are worth less than any other brand…. because it’s been devalued beyond repair. Fifth, have you seen Hilton’s luxury hotels? They look outdated and stuck in the 90s. I could keep going…

    Please, DCS, continue to stay in Hilton hotels because it’ll be more point value redemptions, suite upgrades, free night awards, $50 breakfasts for free, and luxury properties and partnerships for the rest of us.

    Oh and I’m not a blogger, I stay in Hyatt’s for business and pleasure.

    Boom, roasted.

  57. DCS of course believes the benefits he likes are the only important ones and the ones that aren’t important to him, should be irrelevant to all.

    Lack of a guaranteed late check-out is a deal breaker for most. Hilton thus struck from many a list.

    Any top tier given away for free with a credit card isn’t worth that much as it simply can’t afford to be generous. This isn’t rocket science.

    Keep trolling away though year after year though …nobody ever buys it and it’s the same rehashed nonsensical claims over and over again.

  58. I clicked the link to apply for this credit card, but it doesn’t work for Canadians.

    Do you have another link for Canadians?

  59. @Wes D — Just address my factual evidence with the same, and not by regurgitating demonstrably bogus, repeatedly debunked or outdated claims hatched in travel blogosphere by self-anointed ‘travel gurus’, which you seem to have drunk too much of.

    For instance, in spite of countless objective demonstrations, including one just yesterday, that when adjusted for the number of points that Hilton and Hyatt award for the SAME spend, the two programs offer awards that cost virtually the same, that did not stop you from making this demonstrably ignorant claim:

    “Second Hilton charges 40-50,000 points for Hampton inns in most citys!!!!! disgraceful! Might as well stay in a motel 6 down the road… You can find a Hyatt place in most cities for 5-8,000 Hyatt points. ”

    I would debunk each one of you assertions but I won’t bother because I have repeatedly addressed every single one of them with facts. The only way you can prove me “delusional” is by providing counter-facts (not more claims) or all you would have accomplished by interjecting is to leave no doubt about which one of us is truly delusional.

    G’day.

  60. A few things to mention here:

    1. Totally agree with @DCS that 5th night free is a big deal. At least it was to me when I used that benefit at the Conrad Maldives in January and the Conrad Bora Bora in March. I have 5-night stays coming up at two different Hyatts on points and it is irritating compared to Marriott and Hilton.

    2. Doesn’t anybody seem to care that they can earn 50% more Hyatt points through Chase Freedom Unlimited/Chase Sapphire Reserve than the World of Hyatt credit card? There is a major opportunity loss when charging to the Hyatt credit card compared with the CFU/CSR combination.

    3. As a two-year Globalist followed by a three year Explorist, I believe that with the Hyatt program, it is kind of like go big or go home. At the 30 night level, Hyatt won’t give me breakfast unless I use a Club Lounge certificate. However, many full service Hyatts don’t have club lounges, which makes it difficult for me to use those certificates (think I am up to 10 now). To make it worse, if I use a free night certificate (the ones you get for having the credit card, after $15K of spend and after 30 nights), I can’t use a club certificate. So, I have an upcoming 2-night stay at a Hyatt with a lounge but I can’t get access as a 30-night Explorist since I am using free night certificates. Contrast the breakfast benefit with Hilton Gold or even Hilton Diamond (which I get through the Aspire credit card, which to me is the most lucrative credit card out there).

  61. @DCS – I think the topic here is the best (actually the title says Lucky’s “favorite”) [Hotel Status], NOT the best program, NOT the best hotel chain. From that pov, I do think Globalist offers more than HH Diamond. Personally I’m an Aspire Diamond and a Hyatt Explorist. I found this combination to be good enough. I love the designs of PHs and SLHs, while the footprint of Hilton helps me in other situations. So if someone can achieve that status by normal traveling (w/o mileage runs, w/o unreasonable CC spending), it definitely offers more than HH Diamond do. The problem I found with HH is that there’re too many Diamonds out there and many perks I value aren’t consistently delivered (breakfast mostly cold in US, many hotels too old. Plus, Diamond suite upgrades never clear while Gold executive upgrades usually clear, the difference between Diamond and Gold is little then. ). I never had a stay over 4 nights in my life so 5th night free doesn’t matter.

  62. @DSK – I agree most of your points. But I think the hyatt cc is good for the first 15K non bonus spending every year, as it offers a 15K points equivalent free night, so one can consider it 2x non bonus spending (plus 11 elite credits in total).

  63. What exactly is the different between full breakfast (hyatt) and continental breakfast (hilton)? I didn’t even knew Hilton offered continental breakfast, but full breakfast. At least on the properties (abroad) I have been to. They were comparable to Intercontinental, which I believe offers full breakfast.

  64. @OTM. I struggle with this one (and did put $15K on the Hyatt card for that reason), but the room is hardly free since I could have earned 7500 more Hyatt points by putting the $15K of spend on Chase Freedom Unlimited, and then those points could be applied to a Hyatt at any level at which I could use a Club upgrade. So in theory the Cat 1-4 certificate is worth up to 15,000 Hyatt points but that requires me to use it at a Category 4 hotel only to get full benefit within the expiration period (while those 7500 additional Hyatt points through Chase Freedom Unlimited are not subject to an expiration period). So it at least makes me think about it.

  65. @OTM — I listed the benefits that a Hilton Diamond gets (for just $450/year). They are not, by any stretch of the imagination, inferior to those that Globalists get (a status that requires big $$$ to achieve). Then there is the 5th award night free perk — a tremendous perk that Globalists do not get but is seldom mentioned as a weakness of the program. Like I said, the purported “superiority” of SPG or HGP/WoH was always based on self-serving standards made up the travel bloggers. The DSUs were always a problem to clear, as are their replacement and other various certs that Hyatt has been awarding. Hilton awards similar milestone certs but they are easy to use, they have no hotel category restriction and, in fact, as I just shared elsewhere Hilton’s so-called “free **weekend** night certificates” from their co-brand AMEX CCs can be used to book a free middle-of-the-week night stay as well!

    When planning my 2019 Year-end Asian Escapade, I wanted to redeem my Aspire free “weekend night” anniversary certificate at the new Waldorf Astoria Bangkok. However, because I would not arrive in BKK on a weekend night, I decided to call Diamond Desk anyway to find out whether I could use the cert for a free week night instead. The agent looked at the cert in my account and then told me that as far as she could tell, the certificate could be used to book a free night, **ANY** night of the week because it was not restricted in any way. So, she used it to book me one free week night, a Monday, and then she used points to book me the second night of the 2-night stay I wanted to book.

    It is one data point, but the agent was pretty clear that the cert had no day-of-week restriction of any kind. Others should give it a shot a report if they are able to use their free weekend night certs for a free week night stay.

    Putting it all together, and I fail to see the purported “superiority” of the WoH Globlalist status. Did I mention no 5th award night free perk?

    Claims about how outdated Hilton hotels are (been to a Sheraton lately?) or about how inconsistent the service is or about how difficulty it is to clear suite upgrades are all subjective and immaterial because different people have different experiences. Hilton breakfast outside the US is optionally free full restaurant or in exec lounge. Anyone who claims otherwise does not know enough about the program to comment. In the US, some (most very top-end hotels) offer the option of free full restaurant breakfast or in exec lounge, but most stick to continental breakfast.

    So, let’s talk about the concrete stuff instead, like 5th award night free or free night certs with no category cap or non-stop promos…etc…etc 🙂

  66. “Anyone who spends a lot of time on the road wants their family to travel comfortably as well, which is why I love this perk so much.”
    A little awkward phrasing there, unless you really mean that only people who spend a lot of time on the road want comfort for their family.

  67. If you’re a bona fide jetsetter, Hyatt would probably be great no matter where you lived. But for the average or regular traveller, it appears that Hyatt’s loyalty program is only suited for those based in the US.

    I’m in Australia and only managed Discoverist status – despite thousands spent on relatively high room rates – something that I could get by default with the World of Hyatt credit card if this was available outside the US. Bit of an insult really. I have since focused my efforts on Event Hotels, an Aussie chain, which works for me.

    So good on y’all who can benefit from the range of Hyatts available Stateside, as well as the credit card benefits.

  68. @DCS – Again, I agree with you that WoH is not a great program. But we are talking about top-tier elite status here. So the free night certs/5th night free don’t matter, as it’s not about the top tier status. And the fact that it is harder to earn is actually its strength here, as you have less competitors. I don’t think something being expensive and hard to get is its weakness, it’s actually my weakness not being able to get it. And locations and footprints are about the hotel chain, not the status. So to be on point, we should ask ourselves if there’s a chance to get HHD or WoHG for free, which one would I choose? Or, if HHD gets the same perks as Globalists would I be happy abut it? For me, I think consistent full breakfast plus better chance for suites plus waived resort fees wins over full breakfast outside US and nonexistent upgrades. The only thing Diamond wins is the 100% bonus I think.
    In conclusion, I think Globalist is a better status although I wouldn’t go for it given the cost. But I don’t blame the status for it. It’s me being poor and the hotel chain being small.

  69. Hyatt is great when you live in the US and have a Hyatt Creditcard. Hyatt is worthless when living in Europe.

  70. As I stated before, for someone based in Europe and mostly travelling for work (and that usually not to the US), WOH is usueless. I used to be a top tier member before the program changes, as I managed just about to direct 25 stay to Hyatt. After the program change, it was clear I couldn’t achieve any meaningful status/benefits and I directed all my business elsewhere. The SPG/Marriott merger helped in this respect, since by combining the two I can achieve a higher status then before separately – although I still prefer the SPG properties. So Hyatt has gone to zero for me.

  71. What would be more interesting, Lucky, would be an analysis of the most rewarding hotel program (and I guess airline program) at every level, especially when you consider the cost it takes to achieve that level.

  72. @OTM — The fact that Globalist is harder to earn due to high cost and the program’s small footprint is a huge weakness because both of those are impediments to the main purposes of playing the game, which are, ostensibly, to minimize costs of leisure travel and be able to travel to any great destination around the world that one is interested in. It is true that WoH has become a ‘niche’ program because Globalist is harder to earn but is that a good thing? Hardly. It means that only people with money can patronize the program, which is counter to the purpose of the game. Free certs/5th night matter because they minimize costs!!!

    Importantly, there is no evidence that WoH offers more perks or consistency than HHonors, something that you have claimed repeatedly without providing any proof. I am nearly certain that I get more suite upgrades every year than do most Globalists, and the treatment I get at Hilton properties where I choose to redeem my points is second to none because they tend to be at the highest end. Lastly, I am through debunking the bogus claim that Hyatt somehow offers the best breakfast benefit — it is a made up claim, just like the made-up claim that SPG elites were “guaranteed” suite upgrades, which led to all kinds of weird things when the claim turned out to be pure made-up bunk.

    How meaningless are all your arguments boils down to this statement:
    “In conclusion, I think Globalist is a better status although I wouldn’t go for it given the cost.”

    That is, like, “Globalist a great status but there just one catch: I and many like me can’t afford it.”

    Makes great sense, does it not?

    Q.E.D.

    G’day.

  73. “Globalist’s a great status but there’s just one catch: I and many like me can’t afford it.”

    Now fixed; it should be made into a bumper sticker.

  74. When is the optimal time to earn status? Is it like the Companion Pass where if I earn it in January i get it for the rest of that year and the next year? (Obviously this is a spending scenario)

  75. @Lucky, for award stays, “Even award stays count towards status, so it’s awesome that redeeming points will get you closer to Globalist status.”…If I booked 3 rooms at 3 nights each on the same awards booking, will this be counted as 3 stays or 9 stays? Thanks!

  76. I think World of Hyatt is great. Insanely great. Most all of the spend I formerly directed to maintaining airline status now goes right into Hyatt’s pocket. We went from spending no nights in Hyatts to earning well north of 100 nights last year. It would bring tears of joy to a true capitalist’s eyes: Hyatt has created demand where none existed before.

    The wildly divergent opinions here reflect the fact that the value of WoH benefits depend a lot on who you are, how you like to travel, and where you want to go. World of Hyatt is perhaps most beneficial to families traveling on leisure to high-cost destinations, and people who enjoy travel in China and other Asian destinations. Having free breakfast and free club access available when you have two hungry kids is just so useful. The 4 PM checkout is a lifesaver and probably my favorite single WoH benefit: the kids can enjoy time in a city, take a nap, and get in a bit of study before we have to check out. In cities like San Francisco, where parking can go for more than $60 a night, the free parking benefit on awards stays ends up saving us a lot of money.

    We traveled earlier this year to New York City and used a confirmed suite upgrade on a $120/night rate to book into a suite that ran more than $800 a night. Unbelievably nice!

    Hyatt’s properties in China are top-tier in terms of quality and service, and the suite upgrades available in many locations will blow your mind. The ability to confirm a suite upgrade ahead of time is just so valuable.

    My son and I just returned from a fantastic monthlong stay at one of the Hyatts in Shanghai; I’m writing this from the beautiful lounge at the brand new Hyatt Regency in downtown Seattle, where we’ll be staying nine days.

    Hyatt has successfully induced me to spend a lot more money at their properties. In return, I feel like they consistently deliver value far in excess of the dollar amounts I’m throwing their way. It’s a mutually beneficial arrangement.

  77. @Kendor: “The wildly divergent opinions here reflect the fact that the value of WoH benefits depend a lot on who you are, how you like to travel, and where you want to go”

    This is exactly correct – the ultimate value of any elite program is wholly dependent on the person’s unique needs or desires.

    Sadly, not everyone gets this, as is evident by about a fifth of the comments on this post (all of which come from the same person).

  78. Agreed – the opinions aren’t “wildly divergent” (it’s a single noisy neighbor), general consensus is that, Yes, WOH Globalist is the best elite level w/amazing benefits, and is a great program overall. That’s what smaller brands (like legacy SPG) do – they offer better benefits as a consumer behavior driver.

    Bigger programs (legacy Marriott, Hilton, IHG) can afford to be mediocre – they have a limited service property in every small town in America and decent global coverage.

    It is amazing too that Hilton Troll #1 can proclaim how terrible the advance suite night benefits with legacy SPG and now Hyatt are, even as he’s literally never used a single one himself.

  79. Come on man! The real reason is that hyatt points go further! 30k-50k points for a park hyatt beats ANYTHING else. I still have trouble really unloading the 300k Marriott points I have.

  80. @pat sez: “Come on man! The real reason is that hyatt points go further! 30k-50k points for a park hyatt beats ANYTHING else. I still have trouble really unloading the 300k Marriott points I have.”

    LOL. Just like $1 USD for Park Hyatt beats 100 JPY for same property, right? After all, ‘1’ is a much smaller number than ‘100’! 😉

    (Hint: $1 USD = 108.54 JPY)

  81. “It is amazing too that Hilton Troll #1 can proclaim how terrible the advance suite night benefits with legacy SPG and now Hyatt are, even as he’s literally never used a single one himself”

    It truly gets very tedious dealing with trolls because one has to keep embarrassing them again and again for the same mindless comments.

    Would you believe that the SPG SNAs were useless if @Ed Pizzarello — “the grandpa of travel blogging” — proclaimed them as such, as I’ve already pointed out to YOU ad nauseam:

    — “Starwood Extends The Expiration On Their New Suite Night Awards. Why That Really Doesn’t Matter.”
    December 15, 2013 By Edward Pizzarello

    — “I’m Letting All Of My SPG Suite Night Awards Expire Again This Year.”
    December 12, 2016 By Edward Pizzarello

    — “I Guess I’m A Moron. I Picked SPG Suite Night Awards Again.”
    January 1, 2017 By Edward Pizzarello.

    Or maybe you’ll believe SNAs to be useless if your hero proclaimed them as such:

    — With Suite Nights Expiring Unused, What Should I Choose as My Starwood 50 Night Platinum Gift?
    by Gary Leff on December 13, 2016

    Keep on trolling and embarrassing yourself…

  82. @DCS: “It truly gets very tedious dealing with trolls because one has to keep embarrassing them again and again for the same mindless comments.”

    And yet again, someone has forgotten that the comment policy here applies to him, too.

  83. Have redeemed over 70 SNAs and counting without one ever expiring, several dozen countries globally.

    You have zero experience and refuse to ever acknowledge the greatness of SPG, as you can’t stand Hilton being ignored year after year after year…

    DCS is a troll who trolls away, insults everyone in his path, is thin skinned, makes beyond thin “arguments”…the parallels between him and 45 are uncanny.

  84. I have zero experience with SNAs, so I brought in people you worship who have the experience to make the case. Claims about how many SNAs you’ve cleared do not square with reality, which is that SNAs were so useless SPG was compelled to offer alternate perks. In short, you are making stuff up as usual.

    To tout the “greatness” of a program that is no more precisely because it lacked greatness, and to ask others to acknowledge the purported greatness of a nonexistent program is what brain dead people do.

    I will not waste any more of my time here.

    Goodbye.

  85. What a hypocrite. Your outlier experiences with Hilton don’t match ANYONE else I’ve ever seen on any of the blogs – talk about being divorced from reality. Of course, most travelers don’t travel with a laminated copy of the program’s T&Cs and shove it in the FDC’s way when they don’t get their way w/ a suite.

    Hilton – mediocre in the past, mediocre now, mediocre forever. A weak top tier, but hey you can get it for free.

  86. I’m with UA-NYC on this one. Dismissing someone’s experiences as pure outliers rings completely hollow coming from someone who thrives on Hilton experiences that are nothing more than statistical outliers in and of themselves.

  87. Okay, I will share a secret with you and maybe you too will become “statistical outliers.”

    It’s called “playing the game with a *full deck*.” Hilton Honors, or any other program for that matter, is only as good as one’s ability to make the most of its features. On paper, all the programs are pretty much the same. What sets Hilton Honors apart from the rest is its lack of so-called “guarantees”, which are actually programmatic restrictions that limit available or offered benefits rather than being the desirable features that they are constantly touted to be. Seriously.

    G’day.

  88. That, or the ability to wave T&Cs at anyone and do whatever it takes to get what you demand, regardless of whether it’s allowed under the rules or not.

    If you want to call that “playing with a full deck,” then more power to you.

  89. Anyway, I shared my “secret”. The best way to ensure failure is to try to get benefits that are not part of program’s T&C or to feel “entitled and then *demand* benefits that are without exception at the discretion of each property, which was considered an inconvenience that could simply be ignored by SPG loyalists, who earned their enduring spoiled-elite reputation, as a result.

  90. Anyway, I shared my “secret”. The best way to ensure failure is to try to get benefits that are not part of a program’s T&C, usually by feeling “entitled and then *demanding* benefits that are, without exception, at the discretion of each property — considered an inconvenience that could simply be ignored by SPG loyalists, who earned their enduring spoiled-elite reputation, as a result. Playing with a “full deck” must include making the most of the rules by playing within them or it the results would be opposite to those that one desires.

  91. I’m currently a Hilton Diamond, as well as IHG Spire Ambassador (because it’s easy) and Marriott Titanium. What I noticed is that with all these Programmes is that the quality of the Hotels is often very inconsistent for many properties here in Europe. For example, many Hiltons are fairly old and worn down with weak air conditioning and slow internet, the same goes for Sheratons, Renaissance, Courtyard etc.. In many cases my experience has been better at the lower priced options like Moxy or Hampton. From what I hear Hyatt at least doesn’t suffer from those issues. I’m probably not going to keep Hilton Diamond, though I’m wondering what to pick instead – perhaps a European Chain like NH or Accor?

    I’m mostly traveling for business, not on an expense account.

  92. SO Here is my take so far. Just this year I have Diamond with Hilton, Gold with Marriott(wife has Titanium lifetime), and I am about to have Globalist with Hyatt. So far Hyatt has had the best breakfast of the 3, the room was about the same with the marriott, and now I am going to see how the 4 star hilton matches.

    I stay about 220-280 nights in a hotel from one of them. Playing the Deck to see who i want to stay loyal to.

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