American Airlines’ Seattle To Bangalore Flight Delayed Indefinitely

American Airlines’ Seattle To Bangalore Flight Delayed Indefinitely

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American Airlines’ highly anticipated Seattle to Bangalore route has been pushed back again, and now there’s not even a planned launch date. It seems that this route is now basically back on the drawing board for some point in the future. Let’s discuss what we know about this development.

American Airlines’ Seattle expansion

Back in February 2020, American Airlines caught most of us off guard, when it was announced that the airline would form an international hub in Seattle. So far American has announced plans to fly from Seattle to Bangalore, London, and Shanghai, and all three routes were initially scheduled to launch in 2021.

This development came as American started cooperating more closely with Alaska, as the Seattle-based airline also joined the oneworld alliance as of March 2021. Personally I find American’s Seattle expansion to be rather strange, and I’m curious to see how it works out.

Alaska recently joined the oneworld alliance

As you might expect, the pandemic has caused some of American’s growth out of Seattle to be delayed. The Seattle to Bangalore flight was initially supposed to launch in October 2020. It was then delayed until October 2021, then until November 2021, then until January 2022, then until March 2022, and now until… an undisclosed date in the future.

In a company memo, the airline has revealed that the Seattle to Bangalore flight will be delayed even further. The airline hasn’t yet removed the flight from its schedule, but I’d expect inventory to be pulled during the next schedule update.

This is officially being blamed on delayed Boeing 787 deliveries, though the reality is that if the route made sense or were forecasted to be profitable, American would move forward with the route. That’s especially true when you consider the airline announced an all new route from New York to Doha.

American has a shortage of wide body aircraft

American’s Seattle to Bangalore flight details

While it’s anyone’s guess if or when the route will launch, here’s what the planned schedule looks like for the Seattle to Bangalore service:

AA180 Seattle to Bangalore departing 5:55PM arriving 11:05PM (+1 day)
AA181 Bangalore to Seattle departing 1:45AM arriving 6:00AM

American’s Seattle to Bangalore route

The flight would cover a distance of 8,112 miles, and the plan was for the flight to be blocked at 16hr40min to India, and 16hr45min from India. American planned to use a Boeing 787-9 for the route, featuring 30 business class seats, 21 premium economy seats, and 234 economy seats.

American’s 787-9 business class

I’m skeptical about this route launching

When American first announced this route I thought it was surprising but it kind of made sense. No other airline flew nonstop between the US and Bangalore, so American would have an advantage in the market. In the meantime quite a bit has changed, though:

  • United has announced it will fly daily between San Francisco and Bangalore; this was initially supposed to launch in May 2021, but has been delayed until May 2022
  • Air India announced it will fly up to 2x weekly between San Francisco and Bangalore; this route has already launched

It seems to me like American was betting on United not being able to fly from San Francisco to Bangalore due to the distance, since it’s right at the cusp of the 787-9’s range. However, United figured out a way to modify its 787-9s to make this route possible, presumably much to American’s dismay.

United will launch a San Francisco to Bangalore route

Why am I skeptical about American’s chance of success here? Pre-pandemic, here’s what demand looked like between Bangalore and the United States:

  • San Francisco had 17.7% of the traffic (the most of any US city), accounting for over 200 travelers per day
  • Seattle had 4.3% of the traffic, accounting for roughly 50 passengers per day

American relies on there being a lot of connecting traffic, and presumably American expected it would get much of the San Francisco demand as well. But then United announced the San Francisco to Bangalore route.

While United’s route seems like it has a high chance of being successful, I just don’t see where the demand is supposed to come from to make American’s flight work, especially when you consider that from most of the US other than the West Coast, you’d be flying fewer miles routing to Bangalore through Europe, rather than connecting through Seattle.

Yes, I get Amazon and Microsoft are big in Seattle, and also have a large presence in India. But the pre-pandemic passenger numbers don’t lie, and unless all the passengers traveling between Seattle and Bangalore were in paid business class, the math just doesn’t add up. Add in the slow pace at which international business travel is recovering, and it could be quite a while until we again see 2019 passenger numbers for routes like this.

Will American ever launch its Seattle to Bangalore route?

Will American ditch its Seattle international hub idea?

I’m increasingly wondering if American is already backtracking on its idea of turning Seattle into a huge international gateway. I’m not sure one way or another, but a few thoughts:

  • With Bangalore and Shanghai flights being indefinitely delayed, American’s only long haul service out of Seattle is to London; that’s easy enough to operate even without much effort, given the oneworld transatlantic joint venture, and general demand for travel between Seattle and Europe
  • American’s long haul growth lately seems to be out of New York, with the airline launching flights to Delhi, Doha, and Tel Aviv; I think we’ll see a New York to Mumbai route before we see a Seattle to Bangalore route
  • No further routes have been announced out of Seattle; in fairness, the plan was largely for Seattle to be a transpacific gateway, and travel to Asia is still largely very difficult
  • With American having retired 757s, 767s, and A330s during the pandemic, it’ll probably be several years before American has as many wide body aircraft as it needs, so one has to wonder how Seattle growth will be prioritized
  • At least historically American has been unable to commit to just about any plan for an extended period of time, so maybe this isn’t any different?
American’s international growth is now out of New York

Bottom line

American Airlines’ new flight from Seattle to Bangalore has been delayed indefinitely, so it’s anyone’s guess when the route will actually launch. While this is formally being blamed on Boeing 787 delivery delays, if the route would be profitable enough then this would have been a priority.

Personally I’m not surprised to see this delay, and for that matter I question if the route will ever launch. With United planning to launch a San Francisco to Bangalore route (which American wasn’t expecting would happen), the demand for this route is questionable.

Do you think American will end up launching Bangalore flights?

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  1. Leigh Guest

    No idea about Bangalore.

    But I don't think AA will abandon SEA as a Pacific hub in the long-term. They already reduced LAX trans-Pac due to extensive competition, whereas SEA has fewer competitors overall, aside from the obvious DL, and the AS network feed is equally obvious substantial.

    AA can't compete without a legit West Coast trans-Pac hub. They will work with AS as they are with B6 at JFK.

  2. shoeguy Gold

    The route was developed and predicated on robust corporate demand from essentially two companies. The game has changed. Corporate travel is not rebounding sufficiently to warrant this route, even with the presence of a hub partner. I don't see AA ditching its SEA gateway plans but adjusting it. It is running into similar issues that DL has faced with long haul but likely has lower costs. I still see DL at a disadvantage here as...

    The route was developed and predicated on robust corporate demand from essentially two companies. The game has changed. Corporate travel is not rebounding sufficiently to warrant this route, even with the presence of a hub partner. I don't see AA ditching its SEA gateway plans but adjusting it. It is running into similar issues that DL has faced with long haul but likely has lower costs. I still see DL at a disadvantage here as it has had to invest in physical space and operations where AA does not and will not.

  3. Not an expert Guest

    Prediction. AA ditches Seattle hub idea. Delta strengthens its position in Seattle weakening AS. Jet Blue takes over AS.

  4. Sridhar Guest

    I think AA should build on the Seattle hub idea by launching a Seattle to Delhi route first. Delhi is a shorter trip; while Bengaluru is the tech city, techies don't travel up front. There is a huge deal of government and business links between Seattle and Delhi - including the Prime suspects, Microsoft and Boeing amongst others. Good amount of VFR and tourist traffic as well, including well-heeled VFRs who will pay for Premium...

    I think AA should build on the Seattle hub idea by launching a Seattle to Delhi route first. Delhi is a shorter trip; while Bengaluru is the tech city, techies don't travel up front. There is a huge deal of government and business links between Seattle and Delhi - including the Prime suspects, Microsoft and Boeing amongst others. Good amount of VFR and tourist traffic as well, including well-heeled VFRs who will pay for Premium Econ or Biz.
    Delhi is also a better place to connect with much less backtracking needed from other cities in India. Many India business trips involve multiple destinations, not just BLR.
    Besides AA can amortize its staff costs with its JFK flight.
    Keep in mind that we already have 10 flights a week YVR-DEL, which has big VFR load but negligible business class market.
    I'm surprised Delta didn't already jump into SEA-DEL.

  5. Mark Guest

    Does UA’s SFO-BLR flight have a firm start date?

  6. Steven E Guest

    So.. United, American or Air- India … aah no thanks

    1. Notbad41 Member

      I’ll go through Doha or Dubai.

  7. Chris Guest

    Disappointed that it is delayed again.
    Seattle needs a non stop flight to South India especially Bangalore or Hyderbad or Chennai

    1. Sridhar Guest

      Before that, Seattle needs a nonstop flight to Delhi. Today all but 1.5 of the 10 daily flights from US to India, and all the 4 daily flights from Canada to India are to Delhi.

  8. Willem Guest

    Would JFK to Bangalore be a reasonable range for their aircraft? Perhaps they may do that instead. Their fleet simplification to 777/787 only makes sense for maintenance but they'll either need a bunch more 777s or be very slow on new routes.

    Perhaps they can pick up some used A380s while they're low on capacity with their own jets?

  9. Omar Guest

    When you first announced this route on the blog I said there was no chance it would ever launch and I was right.

  10. Terence Gold

    JFK-DOH is more about VFR & World Cup. SEA-BLR is all about corporate travel. Leisure demand is relatively stable and foreseeable for next summer while long haul business travel still remains uncertain.

    1. dfw88 Guest

      I think this comment is key. JFK-DOH has tons of connections to VFR routes that AA can't (reasonably) serve on it's own metal. Places like DAC, LHR, KHI, HYD, KTM, etc. SEA-BLR needs corporate travel to work. The corporates aren't traveling and, I would hazard a guess based on this new update, don't have plans to start. I'm sure AA worked out corporate contracts with the big Seattle-based tech firms and if they're telling AA...

      I think this comment is key. JFK-DOH has tons of connections to VFR routes that AA can't (reasonably) serve on it's own metal. Places like DAC, LHR, KHI, HYD, KTM, etc. SEA-BLR needs corporate travel to work. The corporates aren't traveling and, I would hazard a guess based on this new update, don't have plans to start. I'm sure AA worked out corporate contracts with the big Seattle-based tech firms and if they're telling AA that they don't have a plan to start flying again then why would AA move forward with this route? It may very well be a "made sense at the time" type route. The question is when, if ever, it will make sense in the future.

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Lukas Guest

"Ever" has not happened yet ;)

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Steven E Guest

So.. United, American or Air- India … aah no thanks

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Leigh Guest

No idea about Bangalore. But I don't think AA will abandon SEA as a Pacific hub in the long-term. They already reduced LAX trans-Pac due to extensive competition, whereas SEA has fewer competitors overall, aside from the obvious DL, and the AS network feed is equally obvious substantial. AA can't compete without a legit West Coast trans-Pac hub. They will work with AS as they are with B6 at JFK.

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