United Airlines Launching Newark To Dubai Route

United Airlines Launching Newark To Dubai Route

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Emirates Airline and United Airlines have announced a new partnership today. Just ahead of that, United has added an exciting new route to its schedule.

United’s Newark to Dubai route launches March 2023

As of March 25, 2023, United Airlines will be launching a new daily nonstop flight between Newark (EWR) and Dubai (DXB). The flight will operate with the following schedule:

UA164 Newark to Dubai departing 10:15PM arriving 7:40PM (+1 day)
UA163 Dubai to Newark departing 2:15AM arriving 9:05AM

The 6,852-mile flight is blocked at 13hr25min eastbound and 14hr50min westbound. The flight will be operated using a Boeing 777-200ER, featuring 276 seats. This includes 50 (Polaris) business class seats, 24 (Premium Plus) premium economy seats, 46 (Economy Plus) extra legroom economy seats, and 156 regular economy seats.

This route marks the first time that United will fly to Dubai since early 2016. Up until that point the airline operated a route between Washington and Dubai. That was around the time that the “big three” US carriers got into a feud with the “big three” Gulf carriers.

United Airlines is returning to Dubai!

How this fits into the Emirates & United partnership

Emirates and United have announced a new partnership, which includes a codeshare agreement and reciprocal frequent flyer perks. I think we all expected that United would return to Dubai with this development, so this route makes perfect sense:

  • Newark is a massive hub for United, yet Emirates doesn’t fly there nonstop from Dubai; rather Emirates only flies to Newark via Athens (which is an awesome fifth freedom route)
  • Emirates’ NYC-area presence is otherwise at New York JFK, and I don’t see that changing; Emirates has a large lounge there, and it’s also a huge market even without connections beyond New York
  • So I assumed that either Emirates or United would launch nonstop flights between Newark and Dubai, and I’m not surprised that it’s United

Under normal circumstances I’d say that someone needs their head checked if they’d choose to fly a US airline over a Gulf carrier. However, in terms of premium cabin hard product, there’s no denying that United’s Boeing 777 Polaris business class

United’s Boeing 777 business class

Is superior to Emirates’ Boeing 777 business class

Emirates’ Boeing 777 business class

The soft product is of course a totally different story, as is the experience on the Airbus A380.

Bottom line

United will be launching a new daily flight between Newark and Dubai as of March 2023. This comes as part of a larger partnership between Emirates and United, which will see the two airlines cooperating more closely. I’m curious to see if any other routes between the USA and UAE are launched as part of this agreement over time (maybe a Denver to Dubai route, since it’s the only United hub to not have Emirates service?).

What do you make of United returning to Dubai?

(Tip of the hat to @IshrionA)

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  1. RAP Guest

    How long will it take UA to complain that Emirates is so successful because of subsidies? Only multiple times over the years and now all of a sudden they want to make up. Hhhmm question everything

  2. Hasmukh. Mistry Guest

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  3. JohnHam Member

    I like the arrival time, in time to be able to take Dubai Metro

  4. Brian Gasser Guest

    A 2:15 AM departure out of DXB. If you are not connecting via Emirates, that seems a crazy departure time.

    1. Dan77W Guest

      2am is the largest outbound EK bank at DXB, especially for ULR flights due to the lower temperatures preventing payload restrictions. And yes the majority of passengers with EK are solely transiting in DXB. Not crazy at all, more like expected.

    2. cssevan Guest

      This time is not so crazy even if you are originating in DXB. One has to be in the airport atleast 2 hrs before and leave their hotel or home may be 30 mins to an hour before that. So that would mean about 11.30 pm to the airport, which is ok for most. Once you are in the plane, you can sleep.

  5. Steven E Guest

    Even with Emirates crappy 3 abreast centre seats it would still be hands down better than UA imo

    1. Watson Gold

      No way. Hard product >>> soft product. Not having direct aisle access in biz is a dealbreaker.

  6. NR Guest

    Wondering if this means EK F/J pax from EWR-ATH will get access to UA’s Polaris lounge? I understand right now those pax get sent to SAS and it’s pretty lackluster.

    1. Omar Guest

      EK pax use the Virgin clubhouse at EWR.

      They would have to change terminals in order to use polaris lounge.

    2. NR Guest

      Ah, good to know! Still think I’d prefer the Polaris lounge given prior experiences at Virgin Clubhouse in SFO and given Virgin don’t even list the EWR location (or seem to run it any longer). Airside bus transfer isn’t all that bad last time I did it.

  7. Luke Guest

    "Under normal circumstances I’d say that someone needs their head checked if they’d choose to fly a US airline over a Gulf carrier."

    These days another reason to do so is due to if makes a difference in optional masks vs forced masks (which majority of any Asian carriers continue to impose)

  8. Yiannis Guest

    This is so great!!! Have friends in Dubai and Riyadh… can’t wait to non rev on my own metal to DXB finally!!!

    1. Emiratesman Guest

      Yiannis I think non revving on your own metal would not be fair for paying passengers. Although you are liekly to get polaris since the soft product is terrible on united compared to emirates

    2. NR Guest

      Is that really what you think of nonrev travelers?!

      When they aren’t working they are the people ensuring you get where you’re going when you’re flying.

      It’s the single most important benefit airlines offer to make that industry appealing to work in.

    3. Smith A Guest

      Yes, non revs are usually the worst behaved passengers. I understand it is a benefit, but when others around them paid thousands of dollars for the same seat, the least they could do is act nicely. Non-rev should be limited to economy only as it lessenes the integrity and value of the J product knowing someone sitting next to you paid 4-8k for the seat and the other is an employee flying for almost nothing.

    4. NR Guest

      That's absolutely never been my experience while traveling. FAs and other staff know they are non-rev and there are plenty of rules and regulations that must be followed.

      What sort of behavior have you seen that makes you feel this way and on top of that, how were you informed that they were non-rev?

    5. NR Guest

      @smith honestly by your response you seem more upset about the fact that non revs are not paying the same amount as you given you have furnished zero examples of so-called “bad behavior.”

    6. Dan77W Guest

      How is non reving on one’s own metal “unfair” to passengers?

    7. Steven E Guest

      And you’re totally welcome to it - the worst business experience ever and with 18 non rev appalling dressed and badly behaved it was just the worst and a round trip international Australia journey

  9. Tim Dunn Diamond

    United's primary reason to launch this flight and belly up to Emirates is the reality that Russian airspace sanctions are not going away, UA is adding an hour and a half plus to just about all flights to/from India, and they cannot serve all of the routes they want.

    The DOT has also just released profitability by US global region for the 2nd quarter of 2022 and United lost money flying both the Atlantic...

    United's primary reason to launch this flight and belly up to Emirates is the reality that Russian airspace sanctions are not going away, UA is adding an hour and a half plus to just about all flights to/from India, and they cannot serve all of the routes they want.

    The DOT has also just released profitability by US global region for the 2nd quarter of 2022 and United lost money flying both the Atlantic and to Latin America while turned the corner to Asia. It is clear that UA's aggressive re-addition of capacity has not been profitable and yet they continue to throw capacity into the market.

    In contrast, AA reported a small profit on its Latin America system in the 2nd quarter but lost money across the Atlantic and Pacific while Delta was profitable in all 3 global regions for the 2nd quarter and is profitable year to date across the Atlantic.

    All US airlines are for profit, publicly traded companies whose primary mission is to deliver returns for their shareholders.

    While a return to the Middle East for American and United is "sexy" both have still not figured out how to profitably operate their international networks in the post-covid environment.

    1. Jason Guest

      Please provide a link to this. I'm not aware of the DOT providing actual airline by airline profitability information. Nor that they have any reporting capabilities to do so accurately.

    2. Jason Guest

      sorry - that should read that I'm not aware of the DOT providing profitability information by airline by global region. The DOT publishes a report called the Airline Quarterly Financial Review, but has not published any 2022 reports yet. And this report also does not break down profitability by region but does provide profitability by airline. Please advise your source for this information.

    3. Tim Dunn Diamond

      The US airline industry generates a huge amount of data and submits volumes to the government.

      google "bureau of transportation statistics all U.S. carriers all regions"

      Note that this is compiled from data the airlines submit. The DOT doesn't pick winners or divide up costs or revenue.

    4. Jason Guest

      So are you saying you took the BTS data and did this comparison / analysis yourself? I'm very aware of the data that airlines submit to the government and work with it very frequently and closely. Did you just take the data which was available yesterday and estimate? Because just because your'e able to make an estimate doesnt mean that's accurate. Please provide and demonstrate your work. I'm not clear how you were able to...

      So are you saying you took the BTS data and did this comparison / analysis yourself? I'm very aware of the data that airlines submit to the government and work with it very frequently and closely. Did you just take the data which was available yesterday and estimate? Because just because your'e able to make an estimate doesnt mean that's accurate. Please provide and demonstrate your work. I'm not clear how you were able to come to the conclusions about profitability by region by carrier, nor why anybody should just trust what you say when it doesnt appear that this information is calculated by the government nor shown by the airlines.

    5. Tim Dunn Diamond

      Perhaps you should tell us what else of UAL's data submitted to the DOT is inaccurate.
      Since profits are cumulative between domestic, transatlantic, Latin and transpacific and do mirror what UAL reported as an entity (all regions), you should tell US where we should move United's losses across the Atlantic and Pacific in order to show them as profitable.
      Perhaps this would be a good time to remind you that UAL reported the...

      Perhaps you should tell us what else of UAL's data submitted to the DOT is inaccurate.
      Since profits are cumulative between domestic, transatlantic, Latin and transpacific and do mirror what UAL reported as an entity (all regions), you should tell US where we should move United's losses across the Atlantic and Pacific in order to show them as profitable.
      Perhaps this would be a good time to remind you that UAL reported the lowest net margin of the big 4 and below American for the 2nd quarter - the first time in a long time that has happened.
      As hard as it may be to accept, UAL has been accustomed for years to operating large portions of its network at a loss - note from that site that UAL lost money on an annual basis flying the Pacific long before covid.
      Transatlantic was a region where UAL did well - but they have decided to go big on capacity and are losing money doing it.

    6. Brian Guest

      Not seeing the specifics you quote in the Q2 22 data BTS stats. Not seeing broken down by carrier and region.

    7. Tim Dunn Diamond

      if you are in the right place, you get a drop down menu by carrier. You will also see the ability to look at capacity, revenues, passengers and net income.
      I am glad there is interest in the data that has been there all along; some of us watch every time the DOT releases it.

    8. Jason Guest

      Yeah, but where are you seeing profitability by region? United has been clear that it lost money most of this year. They only became profitable in q2, I think. But I dont see how that gives you the insight you claim to have. I think you just dont like United, love Delta, and are making up things to suit your agenda, and still not proving your work.

    9. Tim Dunn Diamond

      Jason,
      I am sorry that I cannot sit down with you and walk you through the resources that are available.
      I can't insert a screen shot.
      Just a couple hours ago you didn't even believe the data was available; there are enormous amounts of public data about the airline industry available. One just has to know where to look.
      The larger issue is that UAL is not operating anywhere near the...

      Jason,
      I am sorry that I cannot sit down with you and walk you through the resources that are available.
      I can't insert a screen shot.
      Just a couple hours ago you didn't even believe the data was available; there are enormous amounts of public data about the airline industry available. One just has to know where to look.
      The larger issue is that UAL is not operating anywhere near the levels of profitability that it has in the past and it is trailing its most direct competitors using publicly available data on ir.united.com even if that is not at the global region level.
      United might believe that it can make money flying alot of these new routes but they clearly have not delivered those profits yet.
      As a free market capitalist, I love companies that achieve what they set out to do. There is no love of Delta other than that they were the only US airline that was consistently profitable in all global regions pre-covid and they have now returned to that position in the 2nd quarter.

      As much as some want to cheer global expansion, none of its sustainable if it is not profitable

  10. Sharon Guest

    Excellent news for United. They are becoming such an impressive carrier and are on their way to being the most admired US airline. With its truly global reach, impressive alliance partners (Singapore, ANA, and now Emirates), and premium Polaris lounge, United is distinguishable from other airlines.

  11. Stuart Guest

    Still hoping UA will add from IAD an evening departure to DXB to compliment EK's morning departure. The A380 has been consistently full all summer and there is no doubt that an additional in the evening is even better suited for connections in IAD and DXB and would do well.

    1. Rik Guest

      Yes, I thought it would be an evening flight from IAD, catering to US govt, to complement the EK morning departure.

      It would have been much nicer to see EK with nonstop from EWR, which they had just a few years ago.

  12. CM Guest

    Ben, I'm curious (because I'm in the same position) whether you will feel comfortable:

    1) Transiting through Dubai (or doha) with Miles and Ford?
    2) Entering Dubai (or Doha) with Miles and Ford?

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ CM -- My gut says I'd have zero issues with either (and of course I've been to Doha and Dubai many times with Ford). That being said, I'm obviously a new dad, and haven't yet traveled with Miles, so I'm not sure what perception will be like among people in general (even in some parts of the US).

      So I guess my simple answer is that I plan on doing this, and I'll report back on my experience when the time comes. :-)

    2. Jason Guest

      I’m gay and when I lived in Abu Dhabi I had several gay couples come visit me, some with their children. It’s not a problem at all

  13. Alvin | YTHK Gold

    In 2022, now that lie-flat is the industry standard, is business class still all about the seat?

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ Alvin | YTHK -- Hah, is it really the industry standard, though, if we're including Emirates? ;-)

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@ CM -- My gut says I'd have zero issues with either (and of course I've been to Doha and Dubai many times with Ford). That being said, I'm obviously a new dad, and haven't yet traveled with Miles, so I'm not sure what perception will be like among people in general (even in some parts of the US). So I guess my simple answer is that I plan on doing this, and I'll report back on my experience when the time comes. :-)

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TravelinWilly Diamond

LOL!

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Jason Guest

Yeah, but where are you seeing profitability by region? United has been clear that it lost money most of this year. They only became profitable in q2, I think. But I dont see how that gives you the insight you claim to have. I think you just dont like United, love Delta, and are making up things to suit your agenda, and still not proving your work.

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