LOT Polish & Oneworld: You Two Should Talk

Hey LOT Polish, you should really meet my friend oneworld…

The global alliances aren’t what they once were

The first global alliance (Star Alliance) was formed in 1997, and for the first decade the concept was around, it was all the rage.

The Star Alliance was founded in 1997

However, at this point many would argue that the concept is outdated. Over the past few years the global alliances have shrunk, rather than grown.

Why? Because at the end of the day there’s only so much a group of loosely connected airlines can have in common. Airlines are instead focusing on strategic partnerships, like joint ventures, rather than alliances.

I think Delta is the perfect example of an airline that has more or less given up on alliances. Even though they’re a founding member of SkyTeam, they’ve put almost all of their effort into forming their own global network of airlines, through equity investments and joint ventures.

The oneworld alliance is the only one with any momentum

At the moment the oneworld alliance is really the only global alliance where anything is happening. I’m not suggesting they’re best, but rather that it’s the only alliance getting a couple of new members soon:

Royal Air Maroc is joining oneworld this spring

At the same time LATAM is leaving oneworld this spring, due to Delta’s investment.

There aren’t many situations out there where I think to myself “X should really join the Y alliance,” but there’s one major exception, and that point really was driven home for me yesterday (it’s something I’ve thought for a long time, and several readers brought it up, so I figure it’s time for a post) — LOT Polish and oneworld really should do some talking.

LOT Polish is a neglected Star Alliance airline

LOT Polish belongs to the Star Alliance, and heck, they even use Lufthansa Miles & More as their frequent flyer program. However, in just about every way they’re the neglected airline in the alliance:

Lufthansa isn’t happy about LOT Polish taking over Condor

The point is, I’m not sure anyone is really benefiting from LOT Polish being in the Star Alliance anymore… especially LOT Polish. This is true more than ever before with LOT Polish taking over Condor.

Lufthansa seems borderline hostile towards them…

The oneworld alliance really needs LOT Polish (& Condor?)

In just about every way, LOT Polish would be a perfect fit for the oneworld alliance:

  • The oneworld alliance lacks a partner in Eastern Europe, especially following Hungary’s Malev going out of business in 2012, and Germany’s airberlin going out of business in 2017
  • American is increasingly offering service to Eastern Europe seasonally, and this could offer some great connectivity
  • As of now oneworld has the UK and Spain covered with British Airways and Iberia, and Northern Europe covered with Finnair, but they’re lacking in Eastern Europe
  • Often airlines can’t join alliances due to veto rights of member airlines, though this seems like one of the rare circumstances where I think there wouldn’t be objections

Like I said, I truly don’t think there are many airlines nowadays where an alliance switch seems like it could be hugely beneficial, though this is one exception.

LOT Polish sure would be a good fit for oneworld

Bottom line

I realize it’s highly unlikely that this will actually happen. Changing alliances is very complicated, and it’s even more complicated when you’re using another carrier’s frequent flyer program as your own. Add in the fact that alliances aren’t as significant as they used to be, and this is even less likely.

But I absolutely stand by saying that:

  • LOT Polish has second tier status in Star Alliance, which I guess I can’t blame Lufthansa Group for; they’d rather route people on Austrian, Lufthansa, or SWISS
  • This is complicated even further by LOT Polish buying Condor, since Lufthansa wants even less to do with them now, as they’ll have increased competition out of Germany
  • The oneworld alliance would probably be thrilled to have an airline based in Eastern Europe (and with a German operation), since that’s a gap in their network otherwise

While I put the odds of this happening very low, it sure does seem logical…

What do you think?

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Ed Guest

I am a LOT Miles and More member. Totally worthless program, as miles quickly expire and there is little one can do with them. But I still do LOT nonstop to Warsaw from JFK two to three times a year....so much better that crawling around underground at Heathrow or changing umpteen terminals as CDG to get to Warsaw. United is not even in my vocabulary so connecting through Frankfurt or Munich ain't going to happen for me. Too bad LOT is not part of the Delta/KLM Skymiles program, as Delta gave up serving Warsaw about 20 years ago.

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AndrewYYZ Guest

BA and LO were partners and LO got an even worse deal then the current LH-LO alliance. BA treated LO as a low feeder airline, way worse than LH does now. Trust me, LH and UA aren't the kindest partners but they are way more generous than BA and AA. This is why LO broke its relationship with BA and willingly into LH and Miles and More. Be careful what you wish for.

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Rafa Guest

LOT seem to be doing fine in *A regardless of being on transatlantic sidelines. I fly to Warsaw 4 to 5 times per year and it always boils down to going with one connection on LH or non stop on LOT. It is a tough choice as LH is cheaper and overall better quality in every class of service but there I s a huge convenience of going nonstop. LOT J is pushing $4K for round trip while LH can be had for half w connection.

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Alex Guest

I don't see it being realistic that LOT even thinks about leaving Star. I don't think they are excluded from the TATL JV or under attack from LH, I think they just wouldn't derive great benefit from it at vice versa. Besides, they have bigger problems. Within Poland, they are only really dominant in Warsaw; even in KRK they have mostly feeder service to WAW except for a less-than-daily flight to ORD. Ryanair and Wizzair keep growing in Poland, and compared to them LOT is the "full service" option that has a FF program, status benefits, etc. LH/OS/LX is an option to connect westward, but LH's growth into the Polish market is really more to do with LH absorbing Air Berlin's traffic than anything else. It's not like they are trying to steal much from LO. For LOT to actually contemplate leaving Star right now means: -forfeiting a large portion of their premium and regular flyers to LH group -having to create a new FF program -losing business that chooses to fly LO because they get Star benefits. But then, if IAG went and bought LO, it would probably change the arithmetic quite a bit. But IAG seems to be a bit mercenary in their partnerships just the same.

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P Guest

1. You really should learn the meaning of the term Eastern Europe (and Central Europe preferebly) 2. Agreed LOT has more to win with OW than *A 3. Not so optimistic about AY having „nothing against” such move

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