Video: Rude, Maskless Delta Captain Confronts Passenger

There’s some video footage circulating of an interaction between a Delta captain and a passenger on a recent flight. There’s not much context for what happened, so I’m doing my best to piece together the interaction.

What happened between Delta pilot & passenger

The video starts with the pilot approaching the passenger. It would appear that the passenger is wearing a hat that has the “F” word on it. I’m not sure if there’s more to it than that — perhaps it’s part of a phrase, but that’s the only word we can see.

The captain explains that the flight attendants had asked the passenger to remove it, but the she didn’t comply.

Was the airline in the right for asking her to remove the hat?

  • Delta’s contract of carriage reserves the right to remove a passenger when their attire “creates an unreasonable risk of offense or annoyance to other passengers”
  • While I’m not personally offended by the hat (I cuss a bit more than I should, to put it mildly), I can appreciate that many would consider this to be offensive

The captain approaches the woman and says “we’re not going to do that,” and gives her two options — she can either remove the hat or get off the flight.

The passenger responds “please tell me where that’s posted,” to which the captain replies “I’m the captain of the airplane, that’s where it’s posted, and Delta has guidelines, and I don’t have to explain it to you.”

He then asks her if she understands.

Passenger: “Yeah I heard you, sir.”
Captain: “No, no, do you understand it?”
Passenger: “I said I heard you.”
Captain: “Do you understand it?”
Captain: “Do you understand what the two options are?”

The captain then points his finger at the passenger, at which point she tells him not to do that. At that point the discussion continues with them going around in circles:

Captain: “Tell me now, so which is it?”
Passenger: “Tell you what? The hat is off. There’s nothing to tell you, the hat is in my lap.”
Captain: “For the entire flight?”
Passenger: “The hat is in my lap.”
Captain: “For the entire flight? It will not be worn the entire flight?”
Passenger: “The hat is in my lap.”
Captain: “Tell me it’s off for the entire flight.”
Passenger: “The hat is in my lap.”
Captain: “One thousand one, one thousand two. I’ve got six kids, I raised 10 kids.”
Passenger: “I’m not a child sir, the hat is in my lap.”

I can only write the same thing so often, so if you want to watch the rest of the interaction (“the hat is in my lap”), you can watch the full 2min20sec video here:

https://twitter.com/DMVBlackLives/status/1320194085551001601

My take on this situation

First and foremost, why isn’t the captain wearing a mask while in the cabin talking to passengers without any amount of distancing? That’s the part of this video that I find most confusing.

Delta has banned hundreds of people for lack of mask compliance, and at this point in the pandemic it should be pretty clear that you should be wearing a mask whenever walking through the cabin, with zero exceptions.

As far as the situation as such goes, my general take is:

  • Personally a hat with the “F” word doesn’t offend me, but I can appreciate that objectively it’s inappropriate, and I don’t think the airline is wrong for asking the passenger to remove it
  • Based on what we see, the passenger isn’t being cooperative after being asked to remove the hat; she apparently refused to follow flight attendant requests, which is the point at which the captain got involved
  • The captain comes across as ridiculously arrogant, from saying “I’m the captain, that’s where it’s posted,” to pointing his finger at her, to his general condescending tone; this isn’t how you should talk to anyone, let alone a customer

Bottom line

I’m not sure anyone comes out of this looking great. The passenger was uncooperative with a reasonable request that’s support by the contract of carriage, while the captain wasn’t wearing a mask and had a belittling tone.

What do you make of this situation?

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Wendy Schutze Guest

The Captain was right, and correct in everything he said. What sort of idiocy and rudeness does it take for someone to wear that hat in public, around children? The person with the hat was rude and arrogant. I really hope they were kicked off the flight, along with the ridiculous hat. It had nothing to do with the persons colour, people just want to play the Race Card whenever they can. The Captain not having a mask on is not related at all to this situation, just people trying to deflect from the real issue are bringing that up. If someone was wearing a hat like that on a plane I was on, I would have complained. I don’t care what colour they were, it has nothing to do with this. They were on the prod and hoping to cause problems. They should be banned from the Airline for life. The Captain handled it perfectly.

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Robert Capes, Lt Col, USAF ret. Guest

The pilot in command is just that, in command and ultimately responsible for any and all humans, animals and cargo onboard that craft, sea craft or air craft. If this was over international waters he had the authority to remove by force if necessary anyone who was a threat to the safety of the plane, same a the Captain of a flag ship in international waters. If in his judgment anyone is a direct threat to the safety of the craft, or to his responsibility to safely control the craft for the safety and survival of the crew, passengers or craft, he or she alone has the ultimate authority to remove or control offenders as he sees fit. His race or ethnicity matters not. The Captain can be Black, AfricanAmerican, Italian, Greek, white, Mexican, Saudi, Turkish or any other. The same with any passenger. Period. And yes I mean that he could order the crew to take custody or any offending passenger or crew and restrain or remove them for the safety of all, including removing from the craft at that time, regardless of the race/ethnicity of any of the parties. Period. If someone claims they swallowed a miniature detonator and have a bomb onboard, and can detonate the bomb by punching their stomach three times, the Captain can throw the offender off the ship or plane to remove the threat, even if it kills the offender in order to save lives. So someone who wants to wear a offensive hat and rile the Captain needs to think twice. And would blm defend a white passenger vis a vis a black Captain? What a joke. The Captain spoke with authority, not arrogance. I want someone with authority and confidence, we need someone with authority and confidence on the flight deck to handle ALL aircraft emergencies and apply logic and common sense for everyone's safety. I flew fighters, never had passengers, but if I did, I would be happy to say a prayer and then remove into the sea anyone who I believed to be a threat to my craft, crew or paying passengers. Period.

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Jon Ryder Guest

The captain comes across as ridiculously arrogant, from saying “I’m the captain, that’s where it’s posted,” That's not arrogance, she asked, and he responded with the correct answer. The FAA gives the captain of a flight legal authority under his own prerogative, but in this case, he's enforcing policy created to ensure the safety of all passengers. You can disagree all you want, but most people understand perfectly WHY this policy is in place. The captain did his job and was remarkably calm and collected in the face of someone acting like a child.

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Logan Guest

All she had to do was say whe will not put the hat back on and it would have been OK. She was being a b*tch on purpose and I'm glad she got taken off the flight.

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Sam Can Guest

America’s 13%’ers need a major attitude adjustment with an ugly stick!

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