Wow: Lufthansa Group Orders 787-9s & A350-900s

Lufthansa Group has just placed an order for 40 additional aircraft, including 20 Boeing 787-9 aircraft, as well as an additional 20 Airbus A350-900 aircraft.


Lufthansa 787-9

Lufthansa Group expects to take delivery of these planes between late 2022 and 2027. The intention is that these planes will primarily be replacing their four engine aircraft (which include A340s, A380s, and 747s).

The list price for these 40 aircraft is 12 billion USD, though as usual, you can expect they got a significant discount, and the actual price paid isn’t being disclosed.

Lufthansa Group says that the decision regarding which airline will deploy the aircraft and at which hub will be made at a later date.

Since they say that the intention is primarily to replace four engine planes, it seems to me like most of these planes are going to Lufthansa and Swiss, since Austrian doesn’t operate any four engine widebodies.

However, Austrian’s fleet is also getting older, and consists of 767s and 777s. Personally I should see them splitting the 787-9 order between Austrian and Swiss, and then sending the A350-900s to Lufthansa, to keep some fleet consistency there.

It’s interesting to note that:

  • Lufthansa has already ordered 25 Airbus A350-900s, which will be delivered through 2023, so these 20 A350 orders are on top of that
  • Lufthansa has already placed an order for 20 Boeing 777-9s, which will be delivered between 2020 and 2025
  • Lufthansa will be selling six of their 14 Airbus A380s back to Airbus in 2022 and 2023, using these newly ordered planes to replace them; Lufthansa hasn’t disclosed the price at which they’re selling the planes to Airbus

Lufthansa A350-900

The CEO of the Lufthansa Group had the following to say regarding this order:

“By replacing four-engine planes with new models, we are laying a sustainable foundation for our future in the long run. In addition to the cost-effectiveness of the A350 and B787, the significantly lower CO2 emissions of this new generation of long-haul aircraft was also a decisive factor in our investment decision. Our responsibility for the environment is becoming more and more important as a criterion for our decisions.”

Bottom line

It’s great to see Lufthansa Group invest in a fuel efficient fleet going forward. It’s especially interesting to see the airline split their order between the 787 and A350.

I will be sad to see Lufthansa retire more of their four engine planes, given that I can’t imagine they’ll offer first class on their 787s and A350s.

On the plus side, at least all of these planes should feature Lufthansa’s new business class.

I also find it quite interesting that they’ve sold six A380s back to Airbus. I’m not sure Airbus will really be able to do much with them, given the lack of a secondhand market. Rather I imagine this was just a condition of the A350 order, and they could make it work in a mutually beneficial way.

What do you make of Lufthansa Group’s widebody aircraft order?

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JD Guest

Just flew LH flight 499 MEX-FRA First Class (747-8) Last night. Grabbed a last min award saver (UA) to upgrade from BUSINESS . Crew was friendly enough but the 40k extra miles was a rip off —seat design is horrible. Things weren’t working and the food not that great plus some of the better wine selections “sold out” (?? Per flight attendant) . Do your self a favor and save your miles and just book business North America to Europe- . Another interesting note first class lounge access in MEXICO CITY on LH Flight 499 was the AMERICAN AIRLINES CLUB and we were all picked up and dropped off at the plane by an American Airlines’ ConciergeKey shuttle!!!

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02nz Guest

Not a fan of the 9-abreast seating in coach that LH will almost certainly go with on the 787, but from a fleet/network perspective the plane makes a ton of sense, and unlike Lucky I think they'll use it for LH, not just for the smaller subsidiaries. Look at where BA is flying their 787s - tertiary markets in the U.S. like Austin, or long-and-thin routes to Asia like Kuala Lumpur. For some of those markets LH's current planes are too big (A350), don't have enough range (A330), or too thirsty (A340). Lufthansa has retrenched rather than grown their network in East Asia and SE Asia, and the 787 could serve markets that haven't been feasible with the current fleet.

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SUKHVINDER CHATHA Guest

Well Lufthansa is the the far best airline in Europe to my opinion it should rank in the world and Europe service improvements are far better why because I had a very good time onboard the A380 and the A320 Neo both planes had good service But Lufthansa A380 Flight from New Delhi was running late unfortunately missed my connection or connecting flight from Frankfurt so they had to rebook me to Frankfurt to London and then London to Toronto this was only option they had I was booked on Lufthansa A320 Neo to London and then Air Canada from London to Toronto this was only option they had but they did a good job on rebooking me 787 would great on Lufthansa fleet LH.

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Tomm Fjellberg Guest

just arrived today With LH 573 Joburg-Frankfurt in First Class (super service/3 hrs delayed.) however,by takeing these steps Lh is eliminating its F class Product after 2022 as none of these Aircraftstype will offer it. That is a shame...

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Toby Guest

@Lucky It totally makes sense for Lufthansa to order both type of planes to support their subsidiary Lufthansa Technik. If you are interested I can share more information in a private conversation.

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