One of the great things about the “big three” global airline alliances is that they offer reciprocal lounge access for travelers. In this post I wanted to take a closer look at the oneworld alliance’s lounge access policy, as understanding the nuances of airport lounge access can be complicated.
As a general rule of thumb, you can expect that you’ll get lounge access with oneworld either if you have oneworld Emerald or Sapphire elite status, or if you’re traveling in first or business class. That doesn’t consistently apply within the United States (when traveling with Alaska or American), which I’ll address as well.
First let me cover the basics of the oneworld alliance, and then I’ll talk about the alliance’s policy on lounge access when traveling in first class, business class, and when having oneworld Emerald or Sapphire status. Note that you can always reference the oneworld lounge finder for the basics of oneworld’s lounge access rules (though I’ll try to simplify it even more in this post).
In separate posts I’ll cover the lounge access policies of Star Alliance and SkyTeam. Let me say that in general I think oneworld has the most generous lounge access policies, followed by Star Alliance, followed by SkyTeam.
In this post:
The basics of the oneworld alliance
The oneworld alliance is the smallest of the “big three” alliances in terms of the number of member airlines, as the alliance currently has 13 member airlines (with Oman Air expected to join in 2024). The oneworld alliance was founded in 1999, with American Airlines, British Airways, Cathay Pacific, and Qantas, being the founding members.
Nowadays oneworld has the following member airlines:
Alaska Airlines | American Airlines | British Airways | Cathay Pacific |
Finnair | Iberia | Japan Airlines | Malaysia Airlines |
Qantas | Qatar Airways | Royal Air Maroc | Royal Jordanian |
SriLankan Airlines |
oneworld first class lounge access
Let’s start with the oneworld alliance lounge access policy when traveling in international first class. The oneworld lounge access policy for first class is rather straightforward:
- You have access to any designated oneworld lounge, including first & business class lounges
- You must have a same day oneworld first class boarding pass; you can even access lounges until 6AM the following morning, for situations where you have a layover in the middle of the night
- You don’t have to be departing from that airport in first class, but rather must have an outbound flight on a oneworld airline (in any cabin), and must have a same day first class boarding pass
- You must have paid for your ticket with cash or miles; staff travel doesn’t qualify
- You are entitled to bring one guest, and they must be traveling on a oneworld flight as well (though it can be a different flight)
Now, there are some important exclusions, as a oneworld first class ticket won’t consistently get you access to:
- American Airlines Flagship First Dining in Dallas (DFW), Miami (MIA), and New York (JFK)
- British Airways Concorde Rooms at London Heathrow (LHR) and New York (JFK)
- The Qatar Airways Al Safwa Lounge in Doha
In some cases there are agreements between individual oneworld airlines to offer access to these lounges, but as a rule, this isn’t a oneworld perk.
On balance oneworld’s first class lounge access policy is more generous than Star Alliance’s. That’s because lounge access is based on your highest ticketed cabin on that day of travel, rather than just your class of service on your departing segment.
oneworld business class lounge access
Let’s take a look at the oneworld alliance lounge access policy when traveling in international business class. The oneworld lounge access policy for business class is also rather straightforward:
- You have access to any designated oneworld business class lounge
- You must have a same day oneworld business class boarding pass; you can even access lounges until 6AM the following morning, for situations where you have a layover in the middle of the night
- You don’t have to be departing from that airport in business class, but rather must have an outbound flight on a oneworld airline (in any cabin), and must have a same day business class boarding pass
- You must have paid for your ticket with cash or miles; “light” business class fares that don’t offer lounge access, as well as staff travel, don’t qualify for lounge access
- Business class passengers aren’t entitled to bring guests into lounges
There are no oneworld business class lounges that are excluded from the lounge agreement.
oneworld elite lounge access
In terms of elite status, the oneworld alliance offers lounge access to oneworld Emerald and oneworld Sapphire members whenever traveling on a oneworld flight. The major distinction between lounge access for the two tiers is that:
- oneworld Emerald members can access designated first class lounges, business class lounges, and frequent flyer lounges
- oneworld Sapphire members can access designated business class lounges and frequent flyer lounges
Beyond that, lounge entry requirements are identical between the two tiers:
- oneworld Emerald and Sapphire members are entitled to one guest, and they must be traveling on a oneworld flight as well (though it can be a different flight)
- You must have a same day oneworld boarding pass to access a lounge (or for early morning flights, you can access it the day before if your flight departs before 6AM)
- oneworld elite members receive access to contract lounges that business class passengers would get access to as well, in situations where there’s not a oneworld lounge
The most significant thing to note is that those who earn oneworld Emerald or Sapphire status through American AAdvantage or Alaska Mileage Plan are not eligible for elite lounge access when traveling solely within the United States. However, those who earn oneworld Emerald or Sapphire status through another frequent flyer program can access oneworld lounges when traveling exclusively within the United States.
There are a few global lounge exclusions when it comes to access on account of elite status:
- oneworld Emerald members don’t get access to American Airlines Flagship First Dining in Dallas (DFW), Miami (MIA), and New York (JFK)
- oneworld Emerald members don’t get access to British Airways Concorde Rooms at London Heathrow (LHR) and New York (JFK)
- oneworld Emerald members don’t get access to the Qatar Airways Al Safwa Lounge in Doha
- oneworld Emerald & Sapphire members don’t get access to the Qatar Airways Al Mourjan Lounge in Doha, or any other Qatar Airways Premium Lounges at outstations
- oneworld Sapphire members don’t get access to domestic Qantas Business Lounges in Australia
- In some cases there may be dining facilities within lounges, which are restricted to those ticketed in first & business class (specifically, you’ll find this at some British Airways outstation lounges)
What about American & Alaska lounge access?
US airlines tend to get in the way of the alliance “groove” when it comes to lounge access. That’s because within the United States you generally don’t get lounge access just for flying domestic first class, or on account of having elite status. Rather US airlines try to sell lounge memberships. So let’s briefly discuss the lounge access policies of American and Alaska.
If you’re traveling within the United States on American, what does that mean?
- A first or business class ticket within the United States on American generally won’t get you lounge access, with the exception of a limited number of premium routes
- oneworld Emerald and Sapphire members through American AAdvantage don’t get lounge access when traveling within the United States
See my detailed post on American Admirals Club access.
If you’re traveling within the United States on Alaska, what does that mean?
- Alaska offers access to Alaska Lounges when traveling on a paid Alaska first class ticket (either with cash or miles); upgrades don’t qualify for lounge access, regardless of whether you paid cash, redeemed miles, or received it complimentary
- oneworld Emerald and Sapphire members through Alaska Mileage Plan don’t get lounge access when traveling within the United States, or from the United States to Canada and Mexico
See my detailed post on Alaska Lounge access.
Bottom line
One of the great things about the global airline alliances is the reciprocal lounge access perks they offer to those traveling in premium cabins, as well as elite members. This is worth knowing, because in many cases you may have access to better lounges than you expect — don’t necessarily just go to the lounge that your airline gives you an “invitation” for.
In general I consider the oneworld alliance to be the strongest of the “big three” alliances when it comes to lounge access. For elite members, it’s nice that oneworld Emerald members receive first class lounge access, and also that elite members consistently receive access to contract lounges.
For first & business class passengers, it’s nice that lounge access is granted throughout your same-day journey, rather than just based on your departing flight, as is the case with Star Alliance.
Matters are complicated a bit when you factor in American and Alaska, since lounge access policies within North America tend to differ.
What has your experience been with oneworld lounge access?
Hi Ben
Can I use the business class lounge in doha(flying Qatar) with business lite ticket if I’m American airline platinum member?
Hi Ben - Thanks for a great, informative article. I do have a question about one of the points you made regarding lounge access based on status...
Above you state, "oneworld Emerald & Sapphire members don’t get access to the Qatar Airways Al Mourjan Lounge in Doha, or any other Qatar Airways Premium Lounges at outstations". I have had access to this Al Mourjan lounge in Doha several times based on my Emerald status,...
Hi Ben - Thanks for a great, informative article. I do have a question about one of the points you made regarding lounge access based on status...
Above you state, "oneworld Emerald & Sapphire members don’t get access to the Qatar Airways Al Mourjan Lounge in Doha, or any other Qatar Airways Premium Lounges at outstations". I have had access to this Al Mourjan lounge in Doha several times based on my Emerald status, and have been granted one guest, each time...the latest being this past June 2022. My Sapphire status colleague, however, did not have automatic access. Thanks for clarifying if there has been a recent change that I'm not aware of. Appreciate it!
I want to clarify that I will be able to access Qatar Premium Lounge at terminal 4, LHR, I am flying business class with Malaysia Airlines LHR to KLIA in October 2022 on a paid ticket, I expect some sort of problem after reading all of the complaints about Malaysia Airlines, trying to penny pich at every opportunity that they can get, such as not printing menus for their business class passengers, hopefully they will...
I want to clarify that I will be able to access Qatar Premium Lounge at terminal 4, LHR, I am flying business class with Malaysia Airlines LHR to KLIA in October 2022 on a paid ticket, I expect some sort of problem after reading all of the complaints about Malaysia Airlines, trying to penny pich at every opportunity that they can get, such as not printing menus for their business class passengers, hopefully they will change their minds & realise that their penny pinching methods aren't paying off.
I will print out your reply just for my own piece of mind
I have emerald status and was told that I did not have access to the one world lounge at LAX international terminal. The reason given is that I was flying to the Dominican Republic and they did not consider that destination an international flight. Has anyone had a similar issue?
Hello, Ben! I'd considered joining British Airways in lieu of AA for the domestic Flagship Lounge access for some time, since AA's mileage program hadn't exactly provided me many benefits. I'm always a premium class traveler and would therefore easily accrue OneWorld Emerald via BA Gold status. Almost there, have been enjoying BA Silver / OW Sapphire lounge access for months and haven't looked back! Cancelled my Admirals Club membership upon renewal and look forward...
Hello, Ben! I'd considered joining British Airways in lieu of AA for the domestic Flagship Lounge access for some time, since AA's mileage program hadn't exactly provided me many benefits. I'm always a premium class traveler and would therefore easily accrue OneWorld Emerald via BA Gold status. Almost there, have been enjoying BA Silver / OW Sapphire lounge access for months and haven't looked back! Cancelled my Admirals Club membership upon renewal and look forward to my other benefits. Will be BA Gold next week.
Great article detailing the rather detailed criteria for lounge access, keep the articles coming.
Can you access Lounges on arrival? For example landing in Singapore on a business class ticket. You would end up the terminal before integration and be able to reach the lounge. Would you be allowed in?
Perhaps I am completely misreading your statements about AA to AS lounge access?
I have One World Emerald status from AA (PlatPro), and I have always been able to enter AS lounge (at least in PDX). But it sounds like you're saying this is not possible. Am I wrong?
Ben last time we were in Doha we received access to the Al Mourjan lounge flying in Qatar Business using Qantas Chairman’s lounge which is Emerald. This was in September 2019 no questions asked by the attendant at the start of the escalators.Have they changed the rules ?
@Ben: Last time I flew AS in F using MileagePlan miles, I was told I was not able to access the lounge - only "paid" (meaning cash, according to the lounge attendant) F tickets grant access to AS lounges when flying in F on AS metal.
That's what I've been told too. At least at SFO and LAX. Upgrades don't count, rewards don't count.
Yep. Their website, however, states otherwise: "Passengers traveling on a paid First Class or a First Class award ticket on flights operated by Alaska Airlines have access to Alaska Lounge locations only on their day of flight. These fares do not include entrance for family or guests not traveling in First Class. These fares also do not include entrance agreements into other airline clubrooms. To access the Alaska Lounge, passengers must show their same-day First...
Yep. Their website, however, states otherwise: "Passengers traveling on a paid First Class or a First Class award ticket on flights operated by Alaska Airlines have access to Alaska Lounge locations only on their day of flight. These fares do not include entrance for family or guests not traveling in First Class. These fares also do not include entrance agreements into other airline clubrooms. To access the Alaska Lounge, passengers must show their same-day First Class boarding pass to the Alaska Lounge Staff."
I wonder if this is a new policy, perhaps since joining Oneworld?
Qatar Premium Lounge at LHR is only accessible for Qatar and Oneworld revenue passengers flying business or first. It does not allow Emerald or Sapphire members on economy tickets or business or first tickets using miles. Those passengers have to use the Qatar Frequent Flyer lounge.
Hello, just for clarity
If I am an OWE with Alaska Airlines, will I qualify for the LAX Qantas First Lounge if I fly from SYD to SFO via LAX?
The rules don't say anything in regards to this so I would like to check from experience. I am flying in Y. Thank you!
@ Tuong -- Yep, assuming you're connecting same day, you would be eligible to use the Qantas First Lounge.
Interesting addition from experience. As an Alaska MVP Gold (OW Sapphire) when access a AA Admirals club lounge at DFW on an international AA economy ticket to FRA. I was informed that I had access to and should use the Flagship Lounge instead. Apparently Sapphires can access Flagship lounges on AA transatlantic flights. Have done this several times flying economy between DFW and FRA. This was confirmed as only on long haul flights when I...
Interesting addition from experience. As an Alaska MVP Gold (OW Sapphire) when access a AA Admirals club lounge at DFW on an international AA economy ticket to FRA. I was informed that I had access to and should use the Flagship Lounge instead. Apparently Sapphires can access Flagship lounges on AA transatlantic flights. Have done this several times flying economy between DFW and FRA. This was confirmed as only on long haul flights when I attempted to do the same at DFW flying to YVR and was directed to the admirals club instead.
Worth noting that while Oneworld Sapphire does not give you access to Qantas domestic business lounges, it does get you access to Qantas Club domestic lounges, which are almost as good although typically busier.
How does Oneworld lounge access work for AS/AA Emeralds who are returning to the US from an international Oneworld flight and are continuing on AS/AA? For example. I have Oneworld Emerald through Alaska MVP Gold 75K. If I fly from NRT-LAX on JAL and then continue LAX-SEA on Alaska, can I use the Qantas first class lounge in LAX by virtue of Emerald status alone? Or would I have to be flying NRT-LAX in JAL first class?
@ bastilashan999 -- You could use the Qantas First Lounge in that example, since you're connecting same day from a long haul oneworld flight.
@Ben ---> I am Alaska MVP, which equates to oneworld Ruby, (and thus nothing at all). I can access most AA Admiral's Clubs in the US as I have an AS Lounge+ membership. That said, in October, I am flying Iberia (ORD-MAD) in Business, purchased with Avios. I am returning on BA (OPO-LHR-BOS), also in Business, purchased using AS Mileage Plan miles.
I have no status with IB or BA, other than oneworld Ruby....
@Ben ---> I am Alaska MVP, which equates to oneworld Ruby, (and thus nothing at all). I can access most AA Admiral's Clubs in the US as I have an AS Lounge+ membership. That said, in October, I am flying Iberia (ORD-MAD) in Business, purchased with Avios. I am returning on BA (OPO-LHR-BOS), also in Business, purchased using AS Mileage Plan miles.
I have no status with IB or BA, other than oneworld Ruby. I know I can access the AA clubs in Chicago and Boston, but can I use the Iberia lounge in ORD and MAD, and the BA business lounge at LHR? At OPO, there is only (as far as I know), an ANA Lounge -- can I use that?
@ Jason Brandt Lewis -- Your business class ticket should entitled you to lounge access at every airport along your journey. Indeed, at OPO British Airways uses the ANA Lounge (unrelated to All Nippon Airways), which you'd have access to. Enjoy your trip!
Flying on Qatar from Paris to Doha in Business class with a 4 hour connection at Hamad before flying Qatar first class to Sydney booked as one ticket with Avios on the BA website will I have access to the Al Safwa lounge in Doha with this ticket?
Many thanks
@ Nathan -- You sure will, enjoy your time in the lounge!
I'm flying LAX/LHR/DXB same day all in First using UR points. Will this allow me admittance to Concorde Room at Heathrow? Lots of conflicting info.
If you are flying on British Airways in first class LAX to LHR and connecting to British Airways in first class LHR to DXB, you will be able to access the Concorde Room at LHR. It does not matter whether you're using BA points, UR points, or actual paid tickets. If your return leg is identical, ditto. You will also have access to the Qantas first class lounge at LAX on departure.
If a traveler...
If you are flying on British Airways in first class LAX to LHR and connecting to British Airways in first class LHR to DXB, you will be able to access the Concorde Room at LHR. It does not matter whether you're using BA points, UR points, or actual paid tickets. If your return leg is identical, ditto. You will also have access to the Qantas first class lounge at LAX on departure.
If a traveler is AA Concierge Key, the person has access to the Concorde Room at LHR (but not JFK) irrespective of cabin class. If the traveler is BA Gold Guest List, the person has access to the Concorde Room at LHR and JFK irrespective of cabin class.
I apologize for the detailed question but I'm still Curious. I'm AA Plat Pro flying FJ business class out of LAX on AA miles (thanks btw. Loved your post and it made my birthday even easier!). FJ's website says they use the NZ Lounge in T2 at LAX... that obviously can't be right, I assume.
Any idea what lounge I'm qualified for? I'm a bit confused.
@ Maxpower -- It's weird that the Air New Zealand Lounge is listed, since Air New Zealand uses the Star Alliance Lounge. Unfortunately standard oneworld lounge access policies wouldn't apply, since Fiji Airways is only a oneworld connect partner, and doesn't recognize American AAdvantage status for those purposes.
I'm not sure which lounge Fiji Airways is sending passengers to at the moment. Historically it has been the contract lounge in Tom Bradley International Terminal, but...
@ Maxpower -- It's weird that the Air New Zealand Lounge is listed, since Air New Zealand uses the Star Alliance Lounge. Unfortunately standard oneworld lounge access policies wouldn't apply, since Fiji Airways is only a oneworld connect partner, and doesn't recognize American AAdvantage status for those purposes.
I'm not sure which lounge Fiji Airways is sending passengers to at the moment. Historically it has been the contract lounge in Tom Bradley International Terminal, but I'm not sure if that has reopened since the start of the pandemic.
Enjoy your trip!
Adding to the earlier inquiry about (Oneworld connect) airline Fiji...
If I'm connecting in LAX from an Alaska flight (to FJ in biz), does that qualify for entry to the Quantas/Oneworld lounge? And as I'm Emerald (via AS), would I not be eligible for QF First?
@ portreroflyr -- Unfortunately not, this is where the whole oneworld connect concept isn't ideal. Access is only reciprocal between Fiji Airways and its sponsors (British Airways, Cathay Pacific, and Qantas), and even then there are limitations.
They should come up with a new color for domestic emerald OW members. "chartreuse" or "lime" would be more fitting.
So a Finnair OW Emerald is not entitled to AA DFW Flagship Business while traveling domestically on an AA ticket?
Yes, you should have access. You won't get Flagship Dining, but you will get access for the Lounge.
@ Roberto -- As noted by @ RB, you would indeed have Flagship Lounge access on a domestic itinerary as a non-AA/AS oneworld Emerald.
I was denied access to the BA lounge in Boston while flying Iberia in business back in March. For some reason, Iberia contracts with the Air France lounge in Boston. Still, I should have been let in to the BA lounge and I stated the policy to the attendant but she wouldn’t budge.
@ Matt -- This is super frustrating, and is fairly common at outstation British Airways lounges. It's not within oneworld rules, but that doesn't stop the lounge agents. They seem to pull the "capacity" card, even if the lounge is nowhere close to full.
How does oneworld connect (Fiji airways) work? Can I access Qantas first or biz lounge in Sydney flying Fiji airways economy as a oneworld emerald?
@ Benny -- You could only access the Qantas Lounge if you have status with Qantas, and not if you have status with most other oneworld airlines. That's because the oneworld connect concept limits lounge access between the "connect" airline and the sponsors (in this case, Qantas).
I'd also add to your First Class/Emerald exception list:
-BA Concorde Dining (ie Washington Dulles)
-BA First Class Dining (ie Philadelphia).
In these two scenarios, only BA First passengers (and in certain scenarios super high status-holding BA passengers) on departing flights will have access. Even if you are BA First arriving into Dulles for example and connecting to another OneWorld flight, you would not have access to the BA Dining facilities. At...
I'd also add to your First Class/Emerald exception list:
-BA Concorde Dining (ie Washington Dulles)
-BA First Class Dining (ie Philadelphia).
In these two scenarios, only BA First passengers (and in certain scenarios super high status-holding BA passengers) on departing flights will have access. Even if you are BA First arriving into Dulles for example and connecting to another OneWorld flight, you would not have access to the BA Dining facilities. At least that is my current understanding.
And speaking of BA Dining facilities, also worth adding to the Business Class/Sapphire exception list for BA Club Dining. Only departing Club World passengers currently get access to the BA Club Dining facilities.
@ Sam -- Great point, thanks! I updated the post to reflect that.
Flying BA first class out of MEX on a Saturday at 11 pm. Does that mean I will get Oneworld lounge access all day at other airports in the US that day by presenting my boarding pass for the BA flight?
The way I read the rules the answer should be yes. But my wife was rebuffed last month at DFW. Her positioning flight was not on a Oneworld carrier. I could understand rebuffing her...
Flying BA first class out of MEX on a Saturday at 11 pm. Does that mean I will get Oneworld lounge access all day at other airports in the US that day by presenting my boarding pass for the BA flight?
The way I read the rules the answer should be yes. But my wife was rebuffed last month at DFW. Her positioning flight was not on a Oneworld carrier. I could understand rebuffing her at DFW if she was seeking access based upon her Sapphire status via BA if she wasn't on a Oneworld flight out of DFW. But I thought her first class ticket on BA later that evening would have gotten her in even if it left from another airport.....Thankfully wait time at DFW was minimal and I only suffered light collateral damage.
@ Steve from LA -- You do need to be traveling on a oneworld airline from that local airport same day, even if it's not in the higher class of service. In other words, you can't use a lounge at an airport if you're not even flying oneworld from there.
Thanks. I knew I should have put her on AA instead of Aeromexico.
Access to the Al Safwa lounge is a published benefit (at least on the oneworld website) of having a oneworld first class ticket departing from Doha. The only other airlines (other than QR) that this applies to are AA and BA.
Also, this is admittedly pretty niche, but SriLankan Airlines does not give its own FlySmiles Platinum/Gold members lounge access when travelling on flights solely within the Indian subcontinent. Emeralds and Sapphires through any other...
Access to the Al Safwa lounge is a published benefit (at least on the oneworld website) of having a oneworld first class ticket departing from Doha. The only other airlines (other than QR) that this applies to are AA and BA.
Also, this is admittedly pretty niche, but SriLankan Airlines does not give its own FlySmiles Platinum/Gold members lounge access when travelling on flights solely within the Indian subcontinent. Emeralds and Sapphires through any other airline still do get access on such flights -- kind of a similar situation with North American lounge access for AA/AS members.
@ baflyer2 -- Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's a bilateral agreement, rather than oneworld policy? I say that because it's based on departing on a oneworld airline in first class from Doha, as opposed to oneworld policy, which is based on same day travel, even if you're not in first class from that "local" airport?
So let's take the Qantas F lounge at LAX. Would an AA emerald flying to Cancun get access? How about MEX? How about BOG? I don't think I've ever seen clarity on the new policies.
@ Jerry -- Great question, and this is indeed rather nuanced. AAdvantage oneworld Emerald members don't get lounge access within the United States, Canada, and/or Mexico, with the exception of Mexico City. So flying to Mexico City would offer Qantas First Lounge access. At least that's how the rules are written.
@Ben, as of 4/1/2021, all AAdvantage Platinum, Platinum Pro, and Exec Platinum customers flying to any destination outside the US (including Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean) receive access to the Admirals Club. Even more confusing/nuanced is that Flagship Lounge access is reserved for flights marketed as "Flagship" but only for qualifying international flights and that list even been refined since it used to include MEX but no longer does.
Very confusing given Jerry's question...one must...
@Ben, as of 4/1/2021, all AAdvantage Platinum, Platinum Pro, and Exec Platinum customers flying to any destination outside the US (including Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean) receive access to the Admirals Club. Even more confusing/nuanced is that Flagship Lounge access is reserved for flights marketed as "Flagship" but only for qualifying international flights and that list even been refined since it used to include MEX but no longer does.
Very confusing given Jerry's question...one must have PhD to figure this one out I think!
What does " safe travel" means?
@ LEo -- That should have read "staff travel." Fixed, thanks for the heads up.
Unless it’s a very recent change, Qantas Platinum and OneWorld emerald members still get access to the Domestic Business lounges (as opposed to the Qantas Clubs) when flying domestically in australia on oneworld (in practice, Qantas only) flights I believe?
@ Jeremy -- You're totally right, that exclusion should have been specific to Sapphire members. Updated the post to reflect that. Thanks!
"The oneworld alliance was founded in 1999, with American Airlines, British Airways, Cathay Pacific, and Qantas, being the founding members."
Isn't Canadian Airlines also one of the founder of Oneworld as well?
@ Amexian -- Indeed, though I left that out, in the interest of keeping things simple. Because mentioning Canadian Airlines would have opened up a whole different conversation.