What Are Fifth Freedom Flights?

What Are Fifth Freedom Flights?

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I often write about fifth freedom flights, though don’t typically go into much detail on why they exist, what their significance is, etc. While avgeeks and longtime readers will probably know what these are, I figured it would be useful to have a consolidated post about these very cool types of flights.

Fifth freedom flight basics

In the context of commercial aviation, a fifth freedom flight is one where an airline from one country flies between two other countries, with the right to transport passengers between them. These kinds of flights aren’t allowed in all cases, but rather have to be part of an air services agreement between countries (or part of a larger aviation treaty).

I’ll share more routes below, but just to give one example, Emirates operates a flight from Dubai to Milan to New York, so the flight between Milan and New York would be a fifth freedom flight. Why? Because an airline from the United Arab Emirates is operating a flight between Italy and the United States, and the airline can even sell tickets for travel between New York and Milan.

If an airline simply stops in an extra country to refuel, or if the airline doesn’t have the right to pick up or drop off passengers in a country, then it wouldn’t be considered a fifth freedom flight.

Emirates operates multiple fifth freedom flights to the United States

Why airlines operate fifth freedom flights

There are a few reasons airlines may choose to operate fifth freedom routes.

One reason is because a destination can’t practically be reached nonstop, so a stop is necessary along the way:

  • For example, Emirates flies from Mexico City to Barcelona to Dubai (with the first flight being a fifth freedom flight)
  • This is done because a 777 can’t easily fly nonstop from Mexico City to Dubai without a significant weight restriction, due to Mexico City Airport being at a high altitude (which reduces takeoff performance)
  • In other words, the only way for Emirates to fly to Mexico City is through a third country, so the airline might as well figure out a lucrative second market

Another reason is because a fifth freedom market is determined to be lucrative, even if there are no operational limitations:

  • For example, Emirates flies nonstop from Dubai to New York, but also operates flights from Dubai to Milan to New York
  • This isn’t because the airline can’t fly nonstop (it can and does), but rather because the economics of the Milan to New York flight make sense
  • The market between Dubai and Milan is large, the market between Milan and New York is large, and the market between Dubai and New York is large, so this gives the airline lots of opportunities to fill seats and maximize revenue

A last main reason is because an airline wants to serve a certain destination, but there’s not enough demand to operate directly there:

  • For example, SWISS flies from Zurich to Sao Paulo to Buenos Aires
  • Clearly the airline didn’t see sufficient demand to fly directly from Switzerland to Argentina, but sees value in offering connecting service there as part of an existing Brazil flight
  • Presumably the icing on the cake is the ability to exclusively transport passengers between Brazil and Argentina
SWISS flies between Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires

Why passengers should care about fifth freedom flights

There are three main reasons passengers should care about fifth freedom flights.

First of all, as an avgeek it sure is fun to fly an “exotic” airline between other countries, whether we’re talking about flying Singapore Airlines from New York to Frankfurt, Gulf Air from Singapore to Bangkok, or Ethiopian Airlines from Buenos Aires to Sao Paulo.

Gulf Air flies between Singapore and Bangkok

Next, in many cases fifth freedom flights are more reasonably priced. Airlines operating fifth freedom flights often have to price more aggressively, since they may not have the pricing power of an airline based in that country, in terms of frequencies, name recognition, etc. For example, you might find that Gulf Air is significantly cheaper between Singapore and Bangkok than Singapore Airlines, Thai Airways, etc.

Lastly, in many cases fifth freedom flights can offer a significantly better passenger experience, since these flights are often operated by long haul aircraft. For example, Singapore Airlines flies between Milan and Barcelona, so you could enjoy the carrier’s excellent A350 business class on this short route.

Singapore Airlines’ A350 business class

It looks a bit better than the typical intra-Europe business class products out there, eh?

Iberia business class on the A320neo

As another example, who wouldn’t want to fly Emirates first class between Newark and Athens? It’s certainly better than anything offered by a US-based airline in the market!

Emirates first class between Newark and Athens is awesome!

Controversy with fifth freedom flights

Historically fifth freedom flights haven’t been without controversy:

  • In many cases the “home” airlines in a country have been opposed to other airlines launching fifth freedom routes, since they don’t like the competition
  • Fifth freedom flights from Gulf carriers have been especially controversial, given accusations of government subsidies
  • Many governments have refused to grant airlines permission to operate fifth freedom flights, even in situations where an air services agreement would otherwise allow it

For example, for a long time we saw airlines in the United States rally against Emirates’ flights between Europe and the United States, and it took Emirates a couple of years to get approval from the Mexican government to launch a flight between Mexico City and Barcelona.

Emirates’ fifth freedom flights have been especially controversial

Are fifth freedom flights becoming obsolete?

Great question. 😉 The way I view it, fifth freedom flights are less necessary than they used to be, so now they’re primarily being operated for different reasons. Airlines are now largely operating fifth freedom flights based on where they see demand, rather than due to operational requirements (there are of course exceptions).

For example, for decades Cathay Pacific operated a fifth freedom flight between New York and Vancouver. This route was initially launched at a time when Cathay Pacific only flew between Hong Kong and New York via Vancouver, due to aircraft range.

Eventually the airline also started nonstop flights between Hong Kong and New York, but at that point the airline was so well established in the market between New York and Vancouver that it stuck around. Unfortunately the route was terminated in 2020, and had apparently been losing money for quite some time.

While the operational needs for these kinds of flights is largely limited, airlines increasingly see business cases for operating these routes, to the extent that governments will allow.

Cathay Pacific used to fly between New York and Vancouver

Fifth freedom flights from the United States

What fifth freedom flights can you take to & from the United States? Off the top of my head, here are the ones that are either available, or are launching soon:

  • Emirates flies from New York to Milan, Newark to Athens, and Miami to Bogota (all routes continue to Dubai)
  • Ethiopian Airlines flies from New York and Newark to Lomé (both routes continue to Addis Ababa)
  • Singapore Airlines flies from Houston to Manchester, Los Angeles to Tokyo, and New York to Frankfurt (all routes continue to Singapore)
  • Qantas flies from from New York to Auckland (the route continues to Sydney)
Ethiopian Airlines operates many fifth freedom flights

Bottom line

A fifth freedom flight is when an airline based in one country operates a flight between two other countries. Personally I love fifth freedom flights, since they can often represent a great deal, offer a superior experience, and even give you a bit of flair.

I’ve taken tons of fifth freedom flights over the years, and always seek them out when possible.

Have you flown any fifth freedom routes? What are your favorites?

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  1. firemind Guest

    I would like to see a Canadian airline run some fifth freedom flights through the US to Mexico and the Caribbean. They wouldn't have to but it could help develop new markets and provide service in smaller cities. Hopefully he legacy carriers wouldn't whine too much as long as they avoided the hubs and didn't duplicate routes.
    It would be addition to a holiday to stop in places like Gulfport, Lakeland, or Belleville before continuing on southward.

  2. ClownDancer Guest

    Ive flown Singapore Air from Houston to Manila twice. One time economy the other enhanced economy. I remember being surprised that there was little service from flight attendants. I guess business class people are treated well. I think maybe i was supposed to walk to the galley for coffee and snacks. I do not know why Singapore gets rave reviews for service. I guess the word ‘economy’ is the answer.

  3. Mashad Guest

    Ethiopian's fifth freedom routes from the US are EWR-LFW, JFK-ABJ, and IAD-LFW (they don't fly JFK-LFW).

  4. Fred M Guest

    Emirates used to fly 380s from Dubai to Auckland via Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane. The points jockeys used to love the relatively easy availability of award seats to/from east coast Oz to Auckland in First or Biz, we plebs in steerage to/from Dubai found the transit stopover in inadequately sized holding pens tiresome. Auckland had to handle three 380 rotations a day. That eventually ended with a new direct DXB-AKL daily rotation and the Australian...

    Emirates used to fly 380s from Dubai to Auckland via Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane. The points jockeys used to love the relatively easy availability of award seats to/from east coast Oz to Auckland in First or Biz, we plebs in steerage to/from Dubai found the transit stopover in inadequately sized holding pens tiresome. Auckland had to handle three 380 rotations a day. That eventually ended with a new direct DXB-AKL daily rotation and the Australian flights rotating there.

  5. simmonad Guest

    My one experience was on LAN Chile (Boeing 767) from Frankfurt to Madrid. I t was very comfortable 2.5 hours, since the majority of pax boarded at MAD on the way to Chile and the aircraft was fairly empty.

  6. Paul Guest

    I also remember flying a United 727 (?) from LHR to TXL in 1997, having connected from a Washington flight. The aircraft must have been sitting all day in Berlin, doing nothing but a connecting flight from Berlin TXL to London LHR, and vice versa, to feed and de-feed the transatlantic UA flights ex LHR. What freedom would it be? I can't say if the flight could take strictly intra-European passengers, though...

    1. Nick Guest

      That's probably the seventh freedom - with that, airline can set up an hub at an airport in a foreign country. I believe that came from Pan Am, but I didn't know United took that over. United bought Pan Am's Asia-Pacific network, and Delta bought the trans-Atlantic... that doesn't add up so well.

    2. Joost Guest

      Germany was a special case until deregulation happened in the full EU in 1997.
      Following WW2, British, French and American airlines had 7th freedom rights from and to (western) Germany. PANAM (later Delta) also operated a hub at FRA.

      Also interesting: 5th freedom flights don't need to be on the same aircraft. With the NW/DL hub at NRT, there were routes were a same flight number was a 747 from the US to NRT, and then a 757 for the second segment.

  7. cheshire Guest

    Sorta naive question but why are government so protective about these? Why shouldn't a foreign airline be allowed to operate domestic flights for what it's worth?
    Imagine if every hotel chain was only allowed to operate in its home country and required special treaties and approval to be allowed to run hotels abroad ...

    1. Joost Guest

      Protectionism happens in every industry, at various levels.

      In aviation, it's very visible because of all treaties that outline these freedoms of the air.

      Local ownership regulations are very common, also for hotels. Many hotels are locally owned and are franchising a concept like Hilton.

      In aviation, franchising does occur as well - although at a smaller scale. Notable examples include LATAM and AirAsia. LATAM Peru for example is 51% local, 49% LATAM owned.

  8. rrapynot Guest

    Back in the day El Al, Air India and Kuwait Airways all flew LHR to JFK. They were always cheaper than the British and US airlines.

  9. Peter Steele Guest

    I've taken 3 Emirates 5th flights using Skywards miles. DPD - AUK, BKK - SYD and BCN - MEX. Each only cost 90,000 miles return. The first 2 have now been discontinued, I believe.

  10. iamhere Guest

    This article would have been better with a complete list of current fifth freedom flights. In addition "off the top of my head" - that was when I knew the article was going downhill. Why base it on what you can remember when you can quickly and easily get the information...

  11. Andrew from Yucatan Guest

    Its very interesting, I already try different 5th freedom flights:
    BA in a 747-4 from EZE-SCL-EZE, back in 2000, in those years LH, AC, AF, KL did the same route with a parade of 747's.
    I also try the most common and my only chance to try the A380, on the JFK-FRA with SQ. Very exotic as well with SQ I try IAH-DMO with the B77W.
    The very common SQ 747-4 from SFO-HKG-SIN & HKG-SFO. And finally, but its not essentially 5th freedom, TK B787, from IST-MEX-CUN

  12. Ryan Guest

    It was never stated what the name means and why it’s called that. Kind of relevant here.

  13. Leo Visalli Guest

    Two weeks ago I used the fifth freedom flight from BKK to HKG (round trip) with Ethiopian Airlines B787-9.
    The cost of the ticket was very cheap, half the price of Thai. The service was good and I have no complains.

  14. Jane Blogs Guest

    Whilst not exactly a freedom flight, QF4 from Auckland to Sydney is a great opportunity to fly the short route on a 787 instead of the usual very old 737's that Qantas mostly use on that route. QF4 originates in NYC and then stops in Auckland before flying onto Sydney. However, Auckland passengers disembark as do passengers flying onto other Australian cities like Melbourne, Adelaide, Brisbane as they can get direct flights from there rather...

    Whilst not exactly a freedom flight, QF4 from Auckland to Sydney is a great opportunity to fly the short route on a 787 instead of the usual very old 737's that Qantas mostly use on that route. QF4 originates in NYC and then stops in Auckland before flying onto Sydney. However, Auckland passengers disembark as do passengers flying onto other Australian cities like Melbourne, Adelaide, Brisbane as they can get direct flights from there rather than going via Sydney. Its only drawback is that its a 6.30am departure but sometimes that can work.

  15. Dempseyzdad Diamond

    Forget Barcelona or Milan...I want to fly Emirates or Singapore Airlines SFO-JFK or LAX-BOS. Now *THAT* would be a treat.

  16. Joost Guest

    There's another interesting 5th freedom business case that is for example used by KLM on AMS-SIN-DPS and has to do with aircraft utilization.

    Before 2009, KLM operated AMS-SIN-AMS in a double-overnight pattern, with the aircraft having 6 hours of ground time in SIN.

    By adding the SIN-DPS tag, they were able to use the aircraft that's otherwise doing nothing on a route that's not commerciable viable just by itself, but makes sense to operate...

    There's another interesting 5th freedom business case that is for example used by KLM on AMS-SIN-DPS and has to do with aircraft utilization.

    Before 2009, KLM operated AMS-SIN-AMS in a double-overnight pattern, with the aircraft having 6 hours of ground time in SIN.

    By adding the SIN-DPS tag, they were able to use the aircraft that's otherwise doing nothing on a route that's not commerciable viable just by itself, but makes sense to operate when the aircraft is 'free'.

  17. Evan Guest

    I think Air Tahiti Nui also flies LAX-CDG.

    Maybe not technically Fifth Freedom, but Air France bases some narrow-body jets out of MIA and flies to PDP.

    Outside the US, I've flown on some cool Fifth Freedom "tag" flights - BKK-HAN on the Air France A340, SIN-DPS on a Qatar 777.

    1. rrapynot Guest

      Tahiti is part of France and Air Tahiti is a French airline so LAX-CDG is not fifth freedom.

      In fact airlines like Dekta and United can’t sell tickets between Paris and Tahiti via the USA because that would be considered courage. Just like Air Canada can’t sell ticket between two points in the USA with a layover in Canada.

  18. Icarus Guest

    KLM has - SIN DPS, KUL CGK, EZE SCL

  19. S_LEE Gold

    ICN also has some 5th freedom routes and the most exotic one is Ethiopian's ICN-NRT.
    They price it similar to or even lower than LCCs in this route and offer unbelievably generous checked bag allowance(23kg x 2pc) and meal.

    1. Nick Guest

      I heard that KAL is re-launching ICN-NRT-HNL fifth freedom flights this year.

  20. Nate Dyer Guest

    'I often write about fifth freedom flights'

    Oh really?

    Adverb.
    frequently; many times.

    Lol ;)

  21. WHS Guest

    From the U.S., you’ve also got MIA-MGA on Avianca, and MIA-PUJ on LATAM off the top of my head.

  22. Bgriff Guest

    Worth adding a link to the full nine freedoms of the air to help explain the name:
    https://www.icao.int/pages/freedomsair.aspx

  23. AJO Member

    Ethiopian also have a couple of non-fifth freedom (Wikipedia tells me they're 2nd freedom) flights to the US, via DUB. Not necessarily relevant for the article though...

  24. Michael Guest

    CDG-AMS on Varig on an MD-11 was quick but fun. Also did some of the NW intra-Asia market, like Seoul Gimpo to MNL and MNL to NRT. Upper deck on a 747-200 that was ragged even then out of Seoul was an experience. Was the lone pax in First on the NRT sector. Good times.

    1. Mike O. Guest

      From what I just read, the NW had 7th freedom rights at NRT as it was a foreign hub for them. Still fun nonetheless with their 747s! NW also had a hub in AMS IIRC and they continued on to DEL. MNLs terminal 1 was very nice back then.

      https://transportgeography.org/contents/chapter5/air-transport/air-freedom-rights/

  25. Euro Gold

    Have done 2 of the SQ USA-Europe flights, and both were fantastic. Convinced a friend to fly on an SQ ICN-LAX flight, and keep trying to get my family to try the SQ HKG-SFO flight but with no success.

    I was hoping to try a few of the fifth freedom SIN-AUS flights but the award availability for J on TK's new SIN-MEL flight disappeared before I could book it. Also the price for the EK...

    Have done 2 of the SQ USA-Europe flights, and both were fantastic. Convinced a friend to fly on an SQ ICN-LAX flight, and keep trying to get my family to try the SQ HKG-SFO flight but with no success.

    I was hoping to try a few of the fifth freedom SIN-AUS flights but the award availability for J on TK's new SIN-MEL flight disappeared before I could book it. Also the price for the EK SIN-MEL flight went up whilst I was thinking about booking it so I'm thinking of just booking a cash ticket one way whilst flying BA's SIN-SYD flight the other way.

    1. Michael Guest

      I flew on SQ SFO-ICN many times in the early 2000s, when they had many more 5th Freedom flights than they do now.

      It was always a good experience, and a very easy choice to take them over UA.

  26. DenB Diamond

    AC EZE-SCL was fun. Only operated in one direction, as part of YYZ-EZE-SCL-YYZ. Bought last minute as a oneway. Was weird as Canadians, immersed in southern South America for weeks, to fly our home's flag carrier for a few hours across the Andes.

  27. derek Guest

    The definition in the beginning of the article is slightly wrong. The flight has to start in the home country.

    A 7th freedom flight is where the departure and arrival city is not the home country. For example, Norse flying US to UK and ending the flight there but not being a UK or US carrier.

    I believe 6th Freedom is the return flight of a 5th freedom but not sure.

  28. Mike O. Guest

    I've done CXs JFK-YVR on the A343 and 77W along with NWs NRT-MNL when they were back in existence. NRT was a haven for NW 747s and DC-10s doing intra-Asia routes. I think UA and CO operated some as well. It's also the aircraft type that makes it more fun. Like with CXs JFK-YVR service, prior to the 77W, you would get the A343, A346 and 744. Philippine Airlines had a YVR-LAS service on the...

    I've done CXs JFK-YVR on the A343 and 77W along with NWs NRT-MNL when they were back in existence. NRT was a haven for NW 747s and DC-10s doing intra-Asia routes. I think UA and CO operated some as well. It's also the aircraft type that makes it more fun. Like with CXs JFK-YVR service, prior to the 77W, you would get the A343, A346 and 744. Philippine Airlines had a YVR-LAS service on the A343 years before the JFK service serving the huge Filipino diaspora in Las Vegas. Also with JAL operating between JFK-GRU. Aircraft types back then were always a fun treat.

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firemind Guest

I would like to see a Canadian airline run some fifth freedom flights through the US to Mexico and the Caribbean. They wouldn't have to but it could help develop new markets and provide service in smaller cities. Hopefully he legacy carriers wouldn't whine too much as long as they avoided the hubs and didn't duplicate routes. It would be addition to a holiday to stop in places like Gulfport, Lakeland, or Belleville before continuing on southward.

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ClownDancer Guest

Ive flown Singapore Air from Houston to Manila twice. One time economy the other enhanced economy. I remember being surprised that there was little service from flight attendants. I guess business class people are treated well. I think maybe i was supposed to walk to the galley for coffee and snacks. I do not know why Singapore gets rave reviews for service. I guess the word ‘economy’ is the answer.

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Mashad Guest

Ethiopian's fifth freedom routes from the US are EWR-LFW, JFK-ABJ, and IAD-LFW (they don't fly JFK-LFW).

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