Prediction: Delta’s Future In South America (And Miami)

A few days ago Delta announced that they purchased a 20% stake in LATAM, and were planning on forming a joint venture with the airline. With this, LATAM will cut ties with American and also exit oneworld.

Suffice to say that this is a huge blow to American and oneworld, especially given American and LATAM were pursuing a joint venture.

Delta has been pursuing global dominance through a strategy of investing strategically and forming joint ventures, and in many ways Latin America was one of the last regions where they needed a partner (arguably Africa is the very last piece of this puzzle for them).

So, what should we expect from Delta’s investment in LATAM? Will Delta greatly increase service to South America? Will LATAM start flying to Atlanta, Detroit, Minneapolis, etc.? Will Delta build up a hub in Miami, given LATAM’s presence there?

Let me share my take (again, these are all just my opinions, and others are welcome to agree or disagree in the comments section):

Delta Won’t Add Lots Of Capacity To South America

This might surprise many, but I doubt that Delta will add significant capacity to South America. The airline is currently pretty weak in South America, and I don’t see that changing significantly.

Maybe they’ll increase capacity on a couple of routes or add some seasonal service, but overall I don’t think their presence in Latin America will even nearly rival American’s network.

Why? Because there’s a precedent here. Delta has invested in several airlines, like Aeromexico, Korean Air, and Virgin Atlantic. In many cases they’ve actually decreased their own flying to those regions, rather than increasing flying.

Delta also owns a stake in Aeromexico

This has been a point of frustration and frequent complaint from Delta’s pilot union. They claim that this is essentially a violation of their scope clause, and that Delta is using foreign carriers to increase flying, taking jobs away from Delta pilots.

Delta has good reasons they do this:

  • For the most part these airlines have lower operating costs than Delta
  • Delta has joint ventures with these airlines, so they share revenue
  • Not only do they share revenue, but since Delta has an equity stake in these airlines, they’re also getting some of the profit’s on the other carrier’s side

So I would expect that trend to continue. Expect most additional flying to Latin America to be on LATAM, and not on Delta metal.

I doubt Delta will add many flights to South America

LATAM Will Maintain Its Big Miami Presence

Miami is by far LATAM’s biggest US station, and the airline flies from there to up to 10 destinations. It just so happens to be that Miami is also a oneworld hub, which used to work great for connections.

But the reality is that the reason Miami is such a big station for LATAM is because it’s a huge market for South America, and in many cases the additional feed isn’t even required.

I would expect LATAM will maintain their presence in Miami, and maybe even beef it up a little bit. Miami is the key US market for South America, and that’s not going to change.

I predict LATAM will maintain their presence in Miami

Delta Will Make Miami More Of A Focus City

I don’t think Delta will try to turn Miami into a hub (as much as I’d love that), in the way that they’ve done to Boston and Seattle. However, I do think we will see Delta grow logically in Miami to provide some connecting feed to LATAM’s network.

Currently Delta uses Miami almost exclusively for flights to their hubs (plus Havana), but I’d expect we’ll see a few more point-to-point flights.

LATAM’s schedule in general is heavily banked, with flights largely arriving in Miami early in the morning, and largely departing in the evening.

So I could see them adding maybe half a dozen to a dozen destinations with strategic connection opportunities.

I’m not expecting Miami to become a Delta hub, but I am expecting a bit more service than they currently offer.

Delta 737I could see Delta adding some domestic capacity to Miami

New York & Los Angeles Over Atlanta & Detroit

Should we expect LATAM to add a bunch of service to Atlanta, Detroit, and Minneapolis? I highly doubt it. None of these cities rank in the top 10 when it comes to their population of Argentinians, Brazilians, Chileans, or Peruvians.

While we might see LATAM operate a Sao Paulo to Atlanta flight, overall I’d expect the focus to be on service to cities that have a lot of local traffic and some connection opportunities.

I think if LATAM expands in the US, we’ll see the most expansion in Boston, Los Angeles, and New York — those are cities that have demand for travel to Latin America, and where Delta also has lots of feed.

Expect more LATAM flights to New York, Los Angeles, and more

Bottom Line

All of the above is just speculation on my part. To summarize:

  • I don’t think Delta will materially increase flying to South America; they’ve almost always left capacity increases to their joint venture partners, much to the frustration of Delta’s pilots
  • I think LATAM will maintain their presence in Miami, if not grow it
  • I think we’ll see some (but not that much) growth to South America from Atlanta, and not much from Detroit or Minneapolis, since Atlanta is the most logical gateway geographically
  • I think most growth that we’d see would be in Boston, Los Angeles, and New York, where there is both O&D demand and Delta has quite a bit of connectivity

What are your expectations of this Delta & LATAM joint venture?

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Peter Wisliceny Guest

Delta is not doing anything in Miami. Have any of you been to Terminal H at MIA? It’s a wasteland, with zero traffic, poor upkeep, a non functioning escalator, and laughable concessions. They’ll maybe add a couple more daily flights to its hubs, but that’s it; when Miamians want to travel to any hotspots, American is it. You can go anywhere on American from Miami (outside of Asia of course). Same to a lesser extent with Frontier, giving Delta little to no incentive to building anything of relevance in Miami outside of a couple extra daily flights to its hubs. The “Terminal J is close to Terminal H so something has to give!!!” argument means bupkis because Delta already serves all the markets that LATAM travelers will likely connect to. So no, Miami won’t even become a hub or a focus city for Delta or anything even close, and any claim to the contrary is just wasteful wishful thinking.

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Paul USA-BRAZIL Guest

I'm not as optimistic as most of you regarding this Delta - LATAM marriage. I agree with Ben and I don't see Delta increasing flights/capacity to South America and especially Brazil. They will rely on LATAM for that and increase their occupancy on the existing flights. Maybe change a plane or two for increased capacity. Regarding Stuart comment who says: "AA could very well go after LATAM by adding in flights to Fortaleza (A boom town and HUGE for growing tourism and connectivity to the NE), Belo Horizonte, Salvador and Recife. All easily reached with even a 737-MAX or other. For years many of these airports, though two hours closer to Miami in flight time, have required a back leg connection via GRU that is a complete pain in the lower area." Actually there was a non-stop AA flight from MIA to CNF (Belo Horizonte) which they dropped unceremoniously last year in August. I'm still not sure why - of course a business decision that may have to do with them flying ancient 767s - as that flight was always full but then since no one else wants to take the route, they don't care, they know most of their customers will make the extra stop in GRU (Sao Paulo) or GIG (Rio) and continue flying AA. I fly from the West Coast (SFO), and since there is no non-stop from the US to CNF, my last flight to GRU was actually with Delta but I had to purchase separate tickets from GRU to CNF for about $100 return with Azul and GOL. The fares to CNF were outrageous, basically Delta was charging an extra $500+ for the GRU-CNF return leg! Maybe the agreement will make the connection with LATAM easier and cheaper in the future. But again, I don't expect new flights there... The one route that puzzles me as being underserved is LAX - GRU (and to a lesser degree LAX - GIG). There are many Brazilians in and going to SFO and LAX (Disneyland!), and I'm not sure why there are no more options there - except AA - especially since Korean Airlines terminated their non-stop flight in 2016. Delta's lack of a hub in the major market of California is a major hit to them as it leaves them with fewer - and longer - options for passengers. Too bad United is not even trying to South America from LAX. That means American will stay the leader there in a monopolistic situation so I'm unfortunately not expecting changes from the Delta-LATAM agreement.

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ChristopherATL Guest

While I believe Delta will add more flights to and from Miami, Atlanta will gain a larger presence of flights to and from South America. Delta's lockdown on competition at the Atlanta airport ensures the carrier is guaranteed the business of those coming and leaving the country through LATAM.

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schar Guest

@Andy I agree that GOL is better than LATAM in Brazil. Savvy travelers stay away from LATAM and fly only GOL or Azul, which is like jetBlue and is fantastic.

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Andy Diamond

Ben, I think the missing part of your equation is AA. They are in a state of shock right now (like many of us), but it really depends what their reaction will be. They are still quite strong out of MIA (less so DFW) to Latin Amercia, at least to the key A cities. What AA lost now in Latin America is connections to smaller B and C destinations. I think they might start some B cities on their own, out of MIA. And for the rest, there are several options. GOL is actually better within Brazil than Latam, in my view. Perhaps, AA can make an arrangement with them. Sky is also not that bad in Chile. Avianca is freely offering interlining and even codesharing with Iberia, so why not with AA? Ar least as long as UA is not able to take them over for legal reasons.

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