Delta Pilots Have An Issue With Aeromexico

All things considered Delta has the best labor relations of the “big three” US carriers, though generally speaking you’ll always find the most contention between management and pilots at a given airline.

Along those lines, the Delta Master Executive Council of the Air Line Pilots Association (which represents Delta pilots) has just filed with the Department of Transportation regarding Delta’s partnership with Aeromexico.

Why Delta Pilots Have An Issue With Aeromexico

Not only does Delta own a stake in Aeromexico, but they also have a joint venture with them. That means that the two airlines coordinate schedules and pricing for travel between the US and Mexico.

Their joint venture is up for renewal at the end of next year, and Delta and Aeromexico have filed with the DOT requesting the elimination of a five year review condition for the joint venture to be maintained.

In response to this request, Delta pilots have filed with the DOT requesting further stipulations. Why?

Delta pilots feel that flying between the US and Mexico has unfairly been taken away from them. Essentially they feel that growth between the two countries has disproportionately been on Aeromexico flights, and as a result flying is being taken away from Delta pilots. In other words, Mexico is stealing their jobs! 😉

They’re probably not that far off. After all, if the two airlines are sharing revenue and are trying to maximize their overall profitability, it’s logical enough that Delta would want to push quite a bit of flying to Aeromexico, since they even have a stake in the airline.

Aeromexico has significantly lower operating costs than Delta. The union also claims that Delta is in violation of their own contracts with pilots regarding the Delta and Aeromexico partnership. They claim that the minimum amount of flying that Delta would have to do as part of this partnership is being breached.

So, what do the pilots want? They’d like the DOT to add conditions that maximize the jobs for US workers by better balancing the growth as part of this joint venture.

This Isn’t The First Complaint From Delta Pilots

Just a couple of weeks ago I wrote about how Delta pilots also filed with the Department of Transportation expressing concern over the proposed expanded joint venture between Delta, Air France, KLM, and Virgin Atlantic.

Essentially they argued that growth with transatlantic flight has disproportionately been with European airlines, and that’s not fair for pilots.

Bottom Line

I don’t think Delta pilots are too far off here. Delta management loves talking about how US aviation jobs are at risk due to the Gulf carriers, but there’s no doubt that they’re “outsourcing” quite a bit of flying to their joint venture partners.

This allows them to share profits, and in instances where they have an equity stake in the airline, it’s especially advantageous for them to do this. Never mind the fact that in many cases foreign airlines have cheaper labor contracts.

That being said, while this is definitely hypocritical on Delta’s part, I’m not sure they’re actually violating anything that the DOT should be concerned with. The union does claim that their contracts are being violated, though:

  • This would be separate from what the DOT is looking into
  • I imagine if they were actually violating their contract, the union would be suing management

I’ll be curious to see what comes of these situations…

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Chuck Guest

From a client's perspective: I've been flying Delta and Aeroméxico between the US and México every single week for the last 3 years through most of the major US hub cities (ATL, ORD, IAH, JFK, DTW). Basically my Delta tickets are very frequently, but not always, flights operated by Aeroméxico. Buying the tickets on either airline directly is the same ticket price essentially. The difference for me between a Delta ticket on an Aeroméxico flight versus 100% Delta is that the Aeroméxico flights are a little less efficient/organized, more likely to experience short delays, less transparent on communication, and have messier boarding. But not at an overly noticeable level. Delta and Aeroméxico's integration is nowhere near as seamless as they advertise it and pretend that it is, with some flat out false advertising by Delta in their email communication and in their website. The upgrade process is not automatic as they claim. Seat selection at the point of purchase is non-existent for Delta tickets on Aeroméxico flights. Wifi availability on Aeroméxico's flights is less likely and not as consistent or good. However both companies flight crews and staff are friendly and the flights are nearly identical in comfort. Food quality is slightly lower on Aeroméxico. I definitely prefer a 100% Delta flight, and I'm definitely frustrated at Delta's attitude and support on flights operated by Aeroméxico, their integration needs serious improvement, but they're still better than all the other airlines on US-Mex flights.

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Andy Diamond

Well, at least based on my own limited experience, Aeroméxico has a much better service and their seat pitch is also 1 inch more, both Business and Eco. So I would choose them over Delta in any case.

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Roman Guest

Lucky, can you please post or link to the factual statements from the DOT complaint? Delta is not parking its aircraft in favor of MX operations, so the pilots are complaining that they are not flying to Mexico instead of where they are flying now? I am so confused. Thank you,

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Tommy P Guest

Those speaking of “high revenue” flights: The flights to Mexico from USA are extremely expensive. I flew to BJX (Leon) many times over the past 5 yrs and fare normally is North of $900. Flights were changed to AM a couple of years ago and although reliability (over Delta commuter carriers in the evening) improved, the on board service with AM is lower than Delta. In any case, there has to be huge profits on these flights due to the high market cost of fares. UA and AA similar.

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Franz Christian Member

I have been saying this for years. This is why Delta has eliminated so many international routes in Asia. Why fly there if you can rely on Korean or China Eastern and not front the costs? Same for Virgin Atlantic in the UK or Air France and KLM in Europe. Now, we're seeing it with Mexico and elsewhere in Latin America with Aeromexico. Yes, Delta has kept marquee routes but that's it.

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