American Airlines Reopening All Flagship Lounges

American Airlines Reopening All Flagship Lounges

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At the start of the pandemic, airlines closed virtually all of their lounges, both due to the lack of passengers, and due to a need for updated policies. While airlines have started to reopen lounges, some premium international lounges have remained closed due to lack of demand.

In the fall of 2021, American Airlines slowly began the process of reopening its Flagship Lounges. The airline has been making good progress, and next week the last Flagship Lounge will reopen.

American Flagship Lounges reopening

American Airlines has already reopened four Flagship Lounges and three Flagship First Dining facilities:

American Flagship Lounge Miami

We now know when the last Flagship Lounge will reopen — in Chicago (ORD), the Flagship Lounge will reopen as of April 21, 2022, which is a week from today. It’s exciting to think that all Flagship Lounges will finally be reopened again.

The only thing that still remains closed is Flagship First Dining in Los Angeles (LAX). It’s anyone’s guess if or when Flagship First Dining at LAX will reopen, given that the Flagship Lounge has opened but that exclusive facility hasn’t. It sounds like American may not plan on reopening it, especially with the airline cutting its transpacific hub at LAX.

American Flagship First Dining New York

Flagship Lounge James Beard Foundation chefs

Make of this what you will, because rarely do I find that airlines with “celebrity chefs” have better food. I’d rather airlines spend money on actually improving food, rather than spending money on having well known chefs disingenuously endorse what’s being served in a lounge.

With American reopening Flagship Lounges, the airline has brought “celebrated chefs” to these lounges, in partnership with the James Beard Foundation. Each location features a different local chef with offerings designed exclusively for their hometown lounge. You can expect:

  • Chef Tiffany Derry at the DFW lounge
  • Chef Ayesha Nurdjaja at the JFK lounge
  • Chef Timon Balloo at the MIA lounge
  • Chef Sarah Grueneberg at the ORD lounge
  • Chef Brandon Kida at the LAX lounge

Who can access Flagship Lounges?

What are American Airlines’ Flagship Lounge access restrictions? The following passengers can visit Flagship Lounges:

  • Concierge Key members, and non-American AAdvantage and non-Alaska Mileage Plan oneworld Sapphire and Emerald members, on any American or oneworld flight
  • Those on eligible business and first class itineraries
  • AAdvantage Platinum, AAdvantage Platinum Pro, AAdvantage Executive Platinum, Mileage Plan MVP Gold, and Mileage Plan MVP Gold 75K members on eligible itineraries
  • Access can be purchased on any itinerary for $150
American Flagship Lounge Chicago

What are eligible first and business class itineraries, for the purposes of accessing Flagship Lounges? These include the following:

  • Between the US and Asia
  • Between the US and Australia
  • Between the US and Europe
  • Between the US and New Zealand
  • Between the US and South America (excluding Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Guyana, Suriname and Venezuela)
  • Between New York (JFK) and Los Angeles (LAX)
  • Between New York (JFK) and San Francisco (SFO)
  • Between New York (JFK) and Orange County (SNA)
  • Between Los Angeles (LAX) and Miami (MIA)
  • Between Dallas (DFW) and Honolulu (HNL)
  • Between Dallas (DFW) and Kona (KOA)
  • Between Dallas (DFW) and Maui (OGG)
  • Between Chicago (ORD) and Honolulu (HNL)
  • Between Charlotte (CLT) and Honolulu (HNL)

For Alaska Mileage Plan and American AAdvantage elites not traveling in first and business class, eligible destinations for Flagship Lounge access include Asia, Australia, Europe, New Zealand, and South America (with the same exclusions as above).

American Flagship Lounge Los Angeles

American Arrivals Lounge London has reopened

While not a Flagship Lounge, this is a reminder that the American Arrivals Lounge at London Heathrow reopened as of January 31, 2022. The lounge is located in Terminal 3, right after the customs hall, as you just have to go up a level. The lounge is open daily from 6:30AM until 2PM, and offers showers, breakfast, etc.

The American Arrivals Lounge can be accessed by the following passengers arriving same day on American Airlines:

  • Those in first & business class
  • oneworld Emerald members, including Executive Platinum, Concierge Key, and British Airways Premier members

This reopening happened at a time when the UK lifted many travel restrictions for vaccinated people.

Bottom line

American Airlines is completing the process of reopening Flagship Lounges. Flagship Lounges at DFW, JFK, LAX, and MIA are now open, as is Flagship First First Dining at DFW, JFK, and MIA. On top of that, the Arrivals Lounge LHR is open.

We can expect the Flagship Lounge at ORD to reopen as of April 21. The only remaining question is when Flagship First Dining LAX will reopen, but that might not be happening anytime soon.

What do you make of the pace at which American has reopened Flagship Lounges?

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  1. Michael Guest

    When will AA reopen the Terminal A West lounge?

  2. Jerry Guest

    Hi All, Can't seem to get the straight scoop on whether (or when) the AA Flagship Lounge is open at PHL for AA business passengers transiting to Europe (and back from Europe). Does anyone know the status of this? Thanks. Jerry

  3. Jerry Guest

    Hi All, Can't seem to get the straight scoop on whether (or when) the AA Flagship Lounge is open for AA business passengers transiting to Europe (and back from Europe). Does anyone know the status of this? Thanks. Jerry

  4. LT Guest

    Does anyone know about American First-Class dining inside American flagship lounge? I have heard that not all people in the flagship lounge can access the First-Class dining. My status is Finnair Plus Platinum, and it says I can access first class lounge. Some people also say I can only access the lounge but first-class dining. TIA.

  5. Dan Guest

    I know this is premium lounge but does anyone know if I get access to Admirals Club if flying 1st class LAX to SJD on AA?

  6. Bee Guest

    Traveling in business to Nadi on Fiji Airways out of LAX and an Alaska Gold75K. Is Fiji Air "One World enough" to enter? Thanks

  7. Bob Not Bob Guest

    "Between Charlotte (CLT) and Honolulu (HNL)"?

    How does that work?

  8. Josh Guest

    Isn't "arriving same day" misleading? That implies overnight flights from the US to LHR don't qualify for entry. But they do. And what is "British Airways Premier members"? Is this a new tier?

  9. mangoMan Guest

    You can add Peru to the list of South American countries that are excluded from FL access. Flights to Lima are not Flagship, hence no FL access.

  10. Chris D Guest

    I don’t see the LHR flagship departures lounge on the reopening list. Is that somehow not considered a real flagship lounge?

  11. Franklin Guest

    As a Chicago-based, frequent Dallas transiter, this has made a very poor impression on me. I did my part to earn this status with them, and they seem to be nickel and diming me on basic things like showers, and of course, the Flagship Lounge. Totally unaccepable that they've dragged this out so long. I think that in 2022, a quick shower after NRT-DFW isn't an unreasonable ask.

    Meanwhile, the Admirals Club in Dallas has been a complete zoo.

  12. Mike Guest

    Can't wait for the Qantas lounges to open at LAX. Hopefully soon.
    OTOH, by not opening the FFD at LAX, they are reducing the premium offerings of their Transcon flights.

    1. Scott Guest

      It's already open. I flew out of Tom Bradley in March and the OneWorld Lounge (Qantas/BA/CX/JAL) lounge is open. Hot food and showers are available, had 2019-level service.

  13. DrewT Member

    According to JonNYC, ORD Flagship Lounge reopens 3/30! Hoping that date holds.

  14. S Hirvela Guest

    No word from AA on Mar. 2nd…..what’s your source?

  15. Mike Guest

    LAX-BOS on the three class A321T is marketed as a Flagship route with Flagship lounge access as well.

  16. AUJeep Guest

    Any updates on the PHL Flagship lounge?

    1. Donna Diamond

      As usual, no updates from anywhere. This lounge started construction in Fall 2019, I remember because I was there in the airport the day it started. The Great Pyramids couldn’t have taken longer than the PHL Flagship lounge.

  17. panda Gold

    There are chefs who are sell their name to aanyone for a quick buck and then there are chefs who care about their reputation and every aspect of how their food is served. The later is much harder to find.

  18. Dave Guest

    I don't think that LAX not being a transpacific hub anymore has anything to do with Flagship dining not opening. All of the transpac flights were/are on 787's without FC, with the exception of HKG.

    1. Adam Guest

      I agree with your comment but I dont get why FFD at DFW would open before LAX. Starting to worry my home airport is never getting FFD back. It was my fav. of the 4 pre pandemic and Imo the best of the 5 chefs also.

      LAX has what 10 FF flights a day to JFK and 2 to 3 to MIA not to mention 1 to LHR. What does DFW have in FF? No...

      I agree with your comment but I dont get why FFD at DFW would open before LAX. Starting to worry my home airport is never getting FFD back. It was my fav. of the 4 pre pandemic and Imo the best of the 5 chefs also.

      LAX has what 10 FF flights a day to JFK and 2 to 3 to MIA not to mention 1 to LHR. What does DFW have in FF? No domestic options for FF. I believe GRU is a 772 now so just the 2 77W's to LHR. I dont get it. Also sure people connecting in or from Dallas can use FFD but really how many people are in that situation. AA flies pretty much everywhere from Dallas. Sure you could go to JFK or MIA to get to London or circle back to LA but most likely its not happening, especially the latter, at least not on 1 PNR. DFW FFD to me is the least needed of the 4.

    2. Dave Guest

      Agree with everything you have said. It could be a labor issue, or that AA is going to abandon LAX even more, ceding to the others.

  19. Bob Guest

    American's LAX to BOS is also Flagship.

  20. Mary S Guest

    Lounge. Singular.

    Dallas.

    That is all.

  21. Motion to Dismiss Guest

    Lol. I'm a foodie and I've never heard of any of these chefs.

    1. Adam Guest

      Kida is actually pretty good. I met him a year ago here in LA. Baloo has some recognition. Derry is just from Top chef. I havent had a single thing at FFD, post Covid, I'd ever order again. I am not sure the chef matters if they are limited in their budget, hiring line cooks at best not chefs, etc. The celeb chef is never really there. I have been to MIA 4 x and...

      Kida is actually pretty good. I met him a year ago here in LA. Baloo has some recognition. Derry is just from Top chef. I havent had a single thing at FFD, post Covid, I'd ever order again. I am not sure the chef matters if they are limited in their budget, hiring line cooks at best not chefs, etc. The celeb chef is never really there. I have been to MIA 4 x and JFK 5 x since they re opened and outside of the parmesan crisp on the artichoke salad legit nothing is anything worthy of any restaurant. I dont eat red meat so Ya I cant speak to the steak ppl on FT rave about but its all really amateur and boring and bland to me.

  22. DrewT Member

    I'm flying through ORD in early April, with a fairly long layover - hopefully the Flagship lounge is open by then, but I'm not holding my breath. And looks like the lounge options in T5 aren't great either, with my QR J ticket getting me into the KLM lounge. Won't even have OneWorld status at that point. Not shaping up to be a very fun layover :-/

  23. Alan Guest

    Would be very useful if this article had an ‘update: ______’ at the top instead of just reposting an article from a month ago without any idea of what’s changed

  24. Monty Guest

    Do you receive access to FL on the return leg of a AA roundtrip business class ticket if you have an ongoing connection in the US? For example would you have access in MIA on CDG/MIA/SAV?

  25. Mashad Guest

    So are itineraries between the US and Africa not eligible since it's the only continent people travel to that's not listed in the list..... such as connecting to Royal Air Maroc

  26. Franklin Guest

    The failure to open Dallas, or even the SHOWERS in the Admirals Club there, is really starting to turn me off, a lot. I funnel my business to AA so that I can use these services. I want a shower after a long flight in from Japan, where I go regularly. There's really no excuse for it. If they cared about safety, they'd be making a whole lof of other changes before deciding I can't take a shower alone. Nothing but a moneymaking scheme.

  27. D3kingg Guest

    Come to think of it until BA , JAL , and CX resume flights with Int’l First Class post pandemic what reason to reopen the flagship first lounge at ORD ?

    1. Nick Holland Guest

      I flying BA First to ORD on 2/21/22! I really hope the FL opens by then!

  28. D3kingg Guest

    I’m One World Emerald flying on AA from ORD to CDG in business class late March on my way to the Northern Italian countryside. Am I limited to the Admirals Club ? Would I be eligible to use the flagship lounge if it reopens ?
    I’d go thru JFK but Milan and Lake Cuomo are too touristy I’m passed Europe 101 at this point.

    1. Reno Joe Guest

      You receive access to the Flagship Lounges.

  29. CB Guest

    Does anyone know when JFK Flagship Dining will close for the conversion to the new BA/JFK joint dining?

    1. Reno Joe Guest

      Purportedly, it remains open. I'll let you know on Thursday.

  30. ptahcha Guest

    Platinum Pro is oneworld Emerald as well.

  31. Sean Guest

    Ben, any idea when the Philadelphia Flagship longe is opening ? It’s been under construction for about a year …

  32. Sam Guest

    To gain access as a non-US oneworld emerald, do we have to include the FF number on the reservation or can we just use our oneworld emerald card? Thanks

    1. Reno Joe Guest

      Emerald card with same-day boarding pass.

    2. Sam Guest

      Thank you! Was wondering if I had to use the Finnair FF number that gave the oneworld emerald status. It's just a pain to use that number rather than AA when flying AA but still wanting to use the Flagship Lounge

    3. John G Guest

      You don’t need to use the Finn Air FF number. You simply show your Finn Air Platinum card and they note the number in the reservation so they can bill Finn Air for access.

      I’ve done this about a dozen times already at both LAX and JFK without any issue or having to do a song and dance.

      The only place that seems to give me a little bit of a challenge is the...

      You don’t need to use the Finn Air FF number. You simply show your Finn Air Platinum card and they note the number in the reservation so they can bill Finn Air for access.

      I’ve done this about a dozen times already at both LAX and JFK without any issue or having to do a song and dance.

      The only place that seems to give me a little bit of a challenge is the Flagship First check in at LAX. I have to explain to them why I’m not on the list… which causes some confusion at the front door but eventually they just say yeah go ahead.

      However, yesterday after I walked into the new Flagship area at LAX (due to the construction) the ticket counter people remarked “We don’t do business class here only first class- who let you in”.. I then showed the Finn Air card and they notated the record with the FF number.

      This was the first time I experienced something like this, I had my boarding pass already and wasn’t checking a bag but they insisted on scanning my boarding pass in.

      Normally, I wouldn’t bother with this song and dance to use the check in but now with the loss of Clear in Terminal 4… I need that security escort.

  33. Ralton Guest

    I am wondering why they have not opened up the Dallas Flagship Lounge yet. Considering that this is their main hub I am a little surprised. I am flying to Maui in May and it would be nice to have access to it, if it is open by then.

  34. Penguin New Member

    Is Mex (from ord or dfw) still a flagship lounge destination?

    1. Ralton Guest

      I don't think that Mexico would qualify. It is a short distance flight from DFW and not that long from ORD either. Access is usually limited to the transcontinental flights or from the US to Hawaii. Otherwise, access is outside the country but not including Mexico. Flights to Mexico would probably allow access to the Admirals Club. The idea of the Flagship Lounge as opposed to the Admirals Club is access for passengers flying long...

      I don't think that Mexico would qualify. It is a short distance flight from DFW and not that long from ORD either. Access is usually limited to the transcontinental flights or from the US to Hawaii. Otherwise, access is outside the country but not including Mexico. Flights to Mexico would probably allow access to the Admirals Club. The idea of the Flagship Lounge as opposed to the Admirals Club is access for passengers flying long haul so there are more food and drink options before or after a long flight.

    2. Sean Guest

      Not anymore. They cut off Mexico City access a couple months ago :-/

    3. Steve Diamond

      Thanks i guess i wont be paying extra for first next time like i did everytime precovid for access.

  35. Steven E Guest

    Absolutely.. let’s publicize celebrity chefs in lounges because that’s so much more cost effective than improving food across an entire fleet of the worlds largest carrier

  36. D3kingg Guest

    Ive been to admirals clubs 4 times and purchased a $59 day pass each time. I would spend a buck fifty to access one of these so called flagship lounges. At admirals clubs I get a nice seat away from a crowded gate area , m and ms, chex mix , and a soda fountain. I’d expect a flagship lounge to be different than the admirals club.

    1. Ralton Guest

      The Flagship Lounges are indeed different from the Admirals Club. Before COVID the food and drink options were excellent and this is even without the Flagship First Dining (only available at some of the clubs). I have been to the Flagship Lounges at: DFW, JFK and ORD and I would rate the food pretty high for an airport lounge. Especially compared to some of the so called lounges in Europe.

    2. Reno Joe Guest

      Nice hot food. Just ate in one.

  37. Peter Guest

    So article could be titled “American Airlines Reopening ONE more Flagship Lounge”. :-)

    1. OCTinPHL Gold

      I had the same thought!

    2. dRoy Guest

      Exactly, author doesn’t know what plural means.

  38. Terence Gold

    One more addition to the eligible routes, LAX-BOS is now exclusively on A321Ts. I overheard AC agents quoting LAX-JFK/MIA/BOS to explain the eligibility to others at the entrance in T4 LAX.

    1. Reno Joe Guest

      Philadelphia is in trail.

  39. AA sucks Guest

    What a joke that they haven’t reopened DFW Flagship Lounge/Dining. AA sucks so bad.

    1. Reno Joe Guest

      So, don't fly AA and save your energy.

  40. Andrew Guest

    Ben: any intel into when AA plans to reopen DFW? They said by year’s end initially but the end of the year is nigh…

  41. Kyle Guest

    Following up to this article now that it's mid-October... anyone have any word on when LAX, DFW, and ORD will reopen? They stated "sometime in the fall" but no announcement has been made as of yet. Getting antsy here as I have a few eligible "flagship" trips coming up and would love to use the LAX lounge specifically.

  42. Anthony Thomas Guest

    Just in time for a Friday flight!

  43. Jasmine leo Guest

    Anything that has to do with food anything American, including lounges suck! Food generally is terrible in the country itself.

    1. Reno Joe Guest

      "Food generally is terrible in the country itself." Hmmm.

      In the hope of changing your opinion, I would offer the following:

      Have you ever been to a steakhouse in Chicago?
      - Bavette's Steakhouse
      - Maple & Ash

      Have you ever been to Las Vegas?
      - Bavette's Steakhouse at the Park MGM
      - Gordon Ramsay Steakhouse at the Paris
      - Le Cirque at the Bellagio
      - Picasso at the Bellagio

      ...

      "Food generally is terrible in the country itself." Hmmm.

      In the hope of changing your opinion, I would offer the following:

      Have you ever been to a steakhouse in Chicago?
      - Bavette's Steakhouse
      - Maple & Ash

      Have you ever been to Las Vegas?
      - Bavette's Steakhouse at the Park MGM
      - Gordon Ramsay Steakhouse at the Paris
      - Le Cirque at the Bellagio
      - Picasso at the Bellagio

      Have you ever been to Beverly Hills?
      - Mastro's Steakhouse
      - The Polo Lounge at the Beverly Hills Hotel
      - Rooftop by JG (Jean-George)
      - Spago (Wolfgang Puck)

      Have you ever been to New York?
      - Balthazar
      - Le Grenouille
      - The Odeon
      - Union Square Cafe

      Hoping you find delight. Have a nice day.

    2. Jasmine Leo Guest

      You make my point!

    3. mwarren1000 New Member

      Most of those restaurants you listed are horrible. Just Celeb chef or big name, good location, great views, but absolute trash for food.

      We do have some great restaurants here but Vegas is probably the worst city to find it Imo. Sadly even LA, where I live, is overrated. .

      But...

      Nashville, Charleston SC, Portland, Seattle, San Diego are my favs..

  44. Mick Guest

    I'm sure i'm in the absolute minority but I prefer the flagship lounge in Chicago to the polaris lounge.

    1. Ralton Guest

      I have not been to the Polaris lounge but I think the Flagship lounges are excellent for airport lounges. Before COVID the buffet selections they had were very good. I actually like getting dinner in the Flagship Lounge and skip what they were serving on the plane on any evening flight.

  45. Joe Guest

    Would be nice if AA now allowed BA Concorde Room card holders to access flagship dining as we've generously welcomed CK members into the CCR in JFK/LHR....

    1. Reno Joe Guest

      Joe, about two years ago, I was in your shoes regarding GGL. I contacted both AA and BA to say that CK and GGL are not "tier status" per se but rather a characterization of the business relationship. And, as AA and BA have started to merge terminal operations in many locations, it would seem fair and reasonable to afford reciprocal privileges for CK and GGL. Then, BA announced CKs had access to the Concorde...

      Joe, about two years ago, I was in your shoes regarding GGL. I contacted both AA and BA to say that CK and GGL are not "tier status" per se but rather a characterization of the business relationship. And, as AA and BA have started to merge terminal operations in many locations, it would seem fair and reasonable to afford reciprocal privileges for CK and GGL. Then, BA announced CKs had access to the Concorde Room. But, no formal announcement regarding GGLs in FF Dining. (FF check-in, yes.) That being said, I've heard that GGLs might actually have it -- depends on with whom one speaks. Ask.

      Now, as I'm sure you've heard, BA will be merging operations into AA's terminal at JFK in just a couple years. The natural questions is "what about the Concorde Room?" It seems likely that you'll get your wish -- at least at JFK. Prior to that, I would advocate you contacting both AA and BA regarding reciprocity. (As a result of COVID, I've moved camps from BA to AA and am CK and no longer have standing to argue the point.)

      As a note, BA's Premier category is similar in nature to AA's Executive Services, which is different than CK.

    2. Reno Joe Guest

      Joe, you might want to check out this article . . .

      https://viewfromthewing.com/accessing-american-airlines-first-class-dining-while-flying-on-a-partner-airline/

      It appears that BA "buys" this for its passengers on certain routes.

      Hope this helps.

  46. Former Ushited 1K Guest

    Any yet United still uses plastic cups on Polaris business class and the Polaris lounges are closed.

    1. Weymar Osborne Gold

      I flew Polaris HND-ORD on Dec. 27 and drinks onboard were served in glassware, and the ORD Polaris Lounge was definitely open.

    2. LLL Guest

      SFO Polaris is also open.

  47. shoeguy Gold

    It shouldn't really surprise that JFK is among the first to see its Flagship Lounge reopen. It has essentially been operational since the pandemic, with a reduction in service to match Admiral's Club levels, and Flagship Dining has been closed. AA is a distant third at JFK but the airport remains a focus for the carrier, increasingly so again, given the NE partnership with B6 and a renewed focus/interest in long haul service there.

  48. Miguel Irazabal Guest

    When will the showers come back?!?!

  49. Ben Guest

    Passed by the DFW Flagship lounge last week. It’s under renovation/construction at the moment.

    1. mwarren1000 New Member

      Not sure if it was here or LALF but I remember reading some rumor that a Cap One lounge would be going in where DFW FL was. I said No way and still dont believe it but it is weird that their flagship lounge at their flagship airport is headed to be last to open.

  50. Miamiorbust Guest

    The idea that transatlantic flight schedules are limited isn’t really accurate. BA/AA schedule for JFK-LHR is nearing 2019 levels and the couple of flights I took this summer were nearly full. BA connectivity to EU is pretty good so that adds to demand. In many respects the hub and spoke models like BA have been easier to scale back up. AA still has no clue how to serve NYC but that the demand for flagship...

    The idea that transatlantic flight schedules are limited isn’t really accurate. BA/AA schedule for JFK-LHR is nearing 2019 levels and the couple of flights I took this summer were nearly full. BA connectivity to EU is pretty good so that adds to demand. In many respects the hub and spoke models like BA have been easier to scale back up. AA still has no clue how to serve NYC but that the demand for flagship reopening at JFK is real has been clear for a while. AA is actually late to the game.

    1. shoeguy Gold

      The BA/AA schedule on JFK-LHR is far from nearing its pre-pandemic levels. AA is at 2 x daily, AA 100 and AA 104, with the 104 service departing around 10:30pm added back late Spring/Early Summer 2021. BA is up to 4 x daily, all in the evening, with neither operating a daylight service just yet (VS does). Peak JFK-LHR pre-COVID was 4x daily on AA and between 6 and 8 on BA.

      AA doesn't...

      The BA/AA schedule on JFK-LHR is far from nearing its pre-pandemic levels. AA is at 2 x daily, AA 100 and AA 104, with the 104 service departing around 10:30pm added back late Spring/Early Summer 2021. BA is up to 4 x daily, all in the evening, with neither operating a daylight service just yet (VS does). Peak JFK-LHR pre-COVID was 4x daily on AA and between 6 and 8 on BA.

      AA doesn't adequately serve NYC because it lost so much ground dithering over whether to file Chapter 11 in the wake of 9/11 and spent a decade ossifying itself with antiquated planes, dated and dowdy products, and limited service while DL bulked up. AA's cost structure was simply too high to build JFK out. But AA still has a decent slice of the corporate market out of NYC and that should help it a bit further should business travel really rebound, which right now remains muted.

  51. D3kingg Guest

    I’m Platinum Pro and flying from JFK to Bogotá and won’t be able to access the flagship lounge ? Seems contradictory.

    1. Ralton Guest

      It is probably the distance. Even though it is outside of the US I think they usually use a flight distance of 7 hours or more to have access to a flagship lounge. For example DFW to Hawaii would have access to the Flagship Lounge, flight is around 8 hours, but if you fly from LA to Hawaii no access, flight is around 5 hours.

  52. BBK Guest

    Long time since AA doesn't fly to Venezuela, weird that they list as a non participant route. I'm a bit surprised with the restriction for Colombia. Is there a data point if it was available before? never flown C in that route with AA to confirm, but my last flight on AA from Venezuela was CCS-MIA (overnight)-PTY on C, and it was nice to have Flagship Lounge access; the list posted doesn't include central america...

    Long time since AA doesn't fly to Venezuela, weird that they list as a non participant route. I'm a bit surprised with the restriction for Colombia. Is there a data point if it was available before? never flown C in that route with AA to confirm, but my last flight on AA from Venezuela was CCS-MIA (overnight)-PTY on C, and it was nice to have Flagship Lounge access; the list posted doesn't include central america (nor specifically excludes central america destinations), it seems strange that Panamá is included but not Colombia.

    1. Rian Guest

      This change was announced a few months ago, but Ben never really said why they excluded most of South America.

  53. David Diamond

    Glad they're reopening Flagship Dining in addition to Flagship Lounges.

  54. LOA Member

    So flying to MEX doesn't get flagship or AC at all now?

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ LOA -- That's correct, only Admirals Club access.

  55. Stan Dombrowski Guest

    @Evan, to jump on your comments, I am PHL based so fly AA pretty frequently, mostly domestic some int'l and right before COVID shut everything down they were getting ready to open up a Flagship lounge in A-West, I am wondering what will happen to that since I think most of the construction was finished. That spot was my favorite Admirals Club since it was so spacious (It was the old US Airways Envoy lounge)...

    @Evan, to jump on your comments, I am PHL based so fly AA pretty frequently, mostly domestic some int'l and right before COVID shut everything down they were getting ready to open up a Flagship lounge in A-West, I am wondering what will happen to that since I think most of the construction was finished. That spot was my favorite Admirals Club since it was so spacious (It was the old US Airways Envoy lounge) so if AA decided to reopen it back to being just an Admirals Club, I'd be happy with that!

    1. Reno Joe Guest

      Stan and Evan, if we look at connecting routes to / from Europe, so many of them pass through PHL as opposed to JFK. It seems that AA has made a strategic commitment to PHL. The Flagship Lounge is still slated to open. With that, don't be surprised if we see T-Bird routes to LAX and SFO. You like?

    2. Evan Guest

      @Reno Joe - I am AA Plat Pro and live 15 minutes from PHL, so I certainly love your optimism! The TATL schedule for next spring/summer looks promising, with lots of routes returning. But I'm a little concerned that AA is more focused on keeping CLT connections at a critical mass, as they shifted routes like ERI (to take one example) away from PHL. What are you hearing about the Flagship Lounge? Any mention of...

      @Reno Joe - I am AA Plat Pro and live 15 minutes from PHL, so I certainly love your optimism! The TATL schedule for next spring/summer looks promising, with lots of routes returning. But I'm a little concerned that AA is more focused on keeping CLT connections at a critical mass, as they shifted routes like ERI (to take one example) away from PHL. What are you hearing about the Flagship Lounge? Any mention of construction progress or opening date is noticeably absent from the recent stories about other FLs reopening.

    3. PHL Guest

      The PHL Flagship lounge construction began in Sep 2019, just a few months before the pandemic began. Their website still says "coming soon". For anyone who knows who Philadelphia construction works, it's unlikely much was accomplished in those ~4 months other than gutting/demolition.

      Since PHL is their defacto European hub with more destinations served (in normal times) than any of their other hubs, it is likely the FL will still open at some point. It...

      The PHL Flagship lounge construction began in Sep 2019, just a few months before the pandemic began. Their website still says "coming soon". For anyone who knows who Philadelphia construction works, it's unlikely much was accomplished in those ~4 months other than gutting/demolition.

      Since PHL is their defacto European hub with more destinations served (in normal times) than any of their other hubs, it is likely the FL will still open at some point. It would also be nice if they branded some of their domestic transcons with Flagship Business service when they're served on a widebody.

    4. Scott Guest

      I am EP also based at PHL. PHL used to be their defacto European hub but there are barley any AA European flights. I believe there is only LHR and FRA (and maybe DUB) at present. It used serve 10-15. All of the other hubs seem to at least be serving a handful of destinations such as CDG, MAD, FCO and others in addition to LHR and FRA. Anyone know why PHL has lagged behind and when they may bring back more destinations?

  56. Joe Guest

    Hi Ben!
    If I fly first class LAX > MIA > ORD, do you know if I will still get to access the lounge on the layover between MIA and ORD?

    Thanks!

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ Joe -- I believe you should, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.

    2. Reno Joe Guest

      Ben, don't forget to include LAX to BOS as a Flagship route.

      Note that not all LAX to MIA flights are Flagship flights. The specific LAX to MIA flight needs to be one of the Flagship flights -- B777-300.

      If someone is connecting to / from a Flagship-qualified flight, one should be able to access to a Flagship Lounge at the connection point. However, even though BOS, CLT, HNL, KOA, OGG, SFO, and SNA are...

      Ben, don't forget to include LAX to BOS as a Flagship route.

      Note that not all LAX to MIA flights are Flagship flights. The specific LAX to MIA flight needs to be one of the Flagship flights -- B777-300.

      If someone is connecting to / from a Flagship-qualified flight, one should be able to access to a Flagship Lounge at the connection point. However, even though BOS, CLT, HNL, KOA, OGG, SFO, and SNA are Flagship way points, they don't have Flagship Lounges. And, of the three Hawaiian way points, only HNL has an Admirals Club.

      PHL will soon have a Flagship Lounge. One might suspect that routes to / from LAX and SFO will be flying T-Birds.

  57. Junior Ned Guest

    What progress is being made with the Flagship Lounge in Philadelphia? Is it still going ahead?

    1. Evan Guest

      I don't know exactly, but I have flown out of PHL several times this summer, and I worry about AA's commitment to PHL. Terminal A-West (basically the international terminal) is almost always empty. Meanwhile, AA seems to be doubling down on CLT. I do wonder if AA will bring back the more experimental international routes once demand returns--they tried nonstops to Bologna and Dubrovnik in 2019--rather than shift focus entirely to CLT.

    2. hp12c Guest

      Agreed - flew out of A earlier this afternoon and it was a ghost town, both A East and West. Most retailers shut down, no TSA precheck in A East, etc. Such a shame, because just before COVID, the int’l scene at PHL was starting to get pretty decent with interesting routes and 787s starting to replace the 767s, 757s, and A330s

    3. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ Junior Ned -- Unfortunately I haven't heard anything there, though let me see what I can figure out.

  58. David Guest

    Lucky, who is your source?

    Notice you again used the passive voice “it has been announced...”

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ David -- The source is linked in the post:
      https://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2021/American-Airlines-Set-to-Reopen-Industry-Leading-Premium-Flagship-Lounges-MKG-LNGE-08/default.aspx

  59. Evan Guest

    What are my lounge options at JFK T8 when flying AA biz to Europe? Do I have access to the Admirals Club?

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ Evan -- Yep, you can access the Admirals Club, and when the Flagship Lounge reopens, you can access that.

    2. Evan Guest

      Thanks - and I'm loving the new threading feature on the comments. Well done.

    3. Dpfau New Member

      How much of a difference exists between Admirals Club and Flagship lounges?

  60. Robert Guest

    Is there access when travelling on an award ticket in business? i.e. Q-Suites LAX-DOH.

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ Robert -- There sure is, award tickets qualify for lounge access.

    2. Reno Joe Guest

      Ben, regarding award tickets and Qatar lounges, remember that it initiated a policy of no lounge access (unless expressly paid for)?

      The policy was supposed to apply to its lounges in Doha, London, and Paris.

      Currently, on the One World web site, the "revenue ticket" requirement only seems to apply at its proprietary lounges in London and Paris. The "revenue ticket" requirement does not seem to apply as its proprietary lounges in Doha (any longer?)....

      Ben, regarding award tickets and Qatar lounges, remember that it initiated a policy of no lounge access (unless expressly paid for)?

      The policy was supposed to apply to its lounges in Doha, London, and Paris.

      Currently, on the One World web site, the "revenue ticket" requirement only seems to apply at its proprietary lounges in London and Paris. The "revenue ticket" requirement does not seem to apply as its proprietary lounges in Doha (any longer?).

      Still, readers traveling to / from Doha should just be aware that there is / was an issue with Qatar's lounges for award ticket holders and they should not be surprised if it comes up when trying to gain access.

  61. sharon Guest

    Lucky, business, and leisure travel is back in force in New York. JFK is the closest airport to the Hamptons for International Travel...

    It is clear that NY is not dead, as premium travel demand as returned to NY

    I definitely agree, why is Dallas not opening first? American has really pushed in Covid the strength of its DFW hub

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ sharon -- I wish I shared your optimism about business travel being back. With JFK being a transatlantic gateway for American, and restrictions continuing to be in place for Europeans coming to the US, I just don't see a huge immediate recovery (and American's schedule reflects that). I suppose the Flagship Lounge may largely be reopening due to transcon flights, but that's the only place where demand has the potential to be significant for...

      @ sharon -- I wish I shared your optimism about business travel being back. With JFK being a transatlantic gateway for American, and restrictions continuing to be in place for Europeans coming to the US, I just don't see a huge immediate recovery (and American's schedule reflects that). I suppose the Flagship Lounge may largely be reopening due to transcon flights, but that's the only place where demand has the potential to be significant for the time being, in my opinion.

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Peter Guest

So article could be titled “American Airlines Reopening ONE more Flagship Lounge”. :-)

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Mike Guest

Can't wait for the Qantas lounges to open at LAX. Hopefully soon. OTOH, by not opening the FFD at LAX, they are reducing the premium offerings of their Transcon flights.

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Ben Schlappig OMAAT

@ LOA -- That's correct, only Admirals Club access.

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