Confirmed: US Won’t Lift Travel Bans (For Now)

Confirmed: US Won’t Lift Travel Bans (For Now)

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A bit over a week ago, President Joe Biden met with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, and during a press conference he was asked about US-imposed travel bans being lifted. For context, the United States has a variety of travel bans preventing non-Americans from entering the country if they’ve been in certain foreign countries in the past 14 days. Currently there are travel bans against Brazil, ChinaIndiathe Schengen ZoneSouth Africa, and the United Kingdom, among other countries.

In response to the question, Biden stated that discussions are “in process now,” and that he expects to be able to answer “within the next several days what is likely to happen.” It was stated that Biden was waiting to hear from his coronavirus team as to what should be done.

Well, there’s now an update — it’s being reported that the United States will maintain its existing travel restrictions at this point due to the delta variant.

That’s not good news for many people. Now, personally I wouldn’t read too much into this:

  • Biden promised to provide an update, so this is simply that update, and means that restrictions won’t be lifted right now
  • I wouldn’t interpret this to mean that restrictions couldn’t be lifted in the next several weeks or next few months
  • I still wouldn’t rule out the possibility of at least some restrictions being eased in late summer or early fall

Personally I don’t follow the logic of the Biden administration:

  • Last we heard, the CDC has stated that the variant cases make up an estimated 83% of current infections in the United States, so it’s not about keeping the variant out of the country
  • While vaccinated people are in part getting infected with coronavirus, the vaccines are still working quite well against serious illness and hospitalization, even for delta variant cases
  • Americans have had access to vaccines for months, and everyone who has wanted to get vaccinated has had the opportunity to do so; is this just about waiting around hoping more people will choose to get vaccinated, or…?
  • Unlike other countries, the United States still hasn’t revised entry restrictions based on vaccination status

As I’ve often stated, the problem is that travel goes beyond casual tourism. There are families and close friends that have been kept apart for a long time, with no end in sight.

Bottom line

For the time being the United States won’t lift its current travel restrictions, citing the delta variant. Personally I wouldn’t get too discouraged by this — the policy could change in the coming weeks or months, so I don’t necessarily take this to mean that current restrictions will necessarily remain in place that much longer.

Americans recently became eligible to travel to most European countries thanks to low infection rates in the United States. However, with the pace at which cases have been increasing, I’d expect the United States to soon fall off the EU’s “green list” again.

What do you make of the US not lifting foreign travel bans?

(Tip of the hat to View from the Wing)

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  1. Alan

    The United States government has never really cared at all and their policies certainly show this. As I write this, there are numerous Indians who have traveled to Mexico who will remain for 14 days, simply to be able to travel to the US. Cases are exploding in Mexico and undoubtedly the delta variant is the reason. While one can say the Mexican government should take their own action (and I would agree), it is...

    The United States government has never really cared at all and their policies certainly show this. As I write this, there are numerous Indians who have traveled to Mexico who will remain for 14 days, simply to be able to travel to the US. Cases are exploding in Mexico and undoubtedly the delta variant is the reason. While one can say the Mexican government should take their own action (and I would agree), it is absurd to think that the US would want to endanger a country with which it shares a massive border. The policy should have been mandatory quarantine for Indians if they had been in India at any time post Delta variant.

  2. Andrew

    I think one-way bans are idiotic. We should have two-way bans imposed by the US, if we are serious about them.

    Think about it: a citizen from the US can travel to Germany, test Covid negative and contract the virus < 72 hours prior to return, and bring home a virus.

    Exactly what did we accomplish by banning Germans?

    1. Robert Schrader

      Foreigners are the easiest (and, therefore, the sexiest) political scapegoat.

  3. Simmy

    For myself, my partner lives in the States. For us, it's been a very long waiting game. I was meant to travel on the 14th of this month, from the UK to the states. Everything was in place, my esta, ticket, I had my pcr test done within 72 hours of me travelling. On the 13th of July, I received an email stating that my ESTA had been cancelled. I was pissed but was prepared...

    For myself, my partner lives in the States. For us, it's been a very long waiting game. I was meant to travel on the 14th of this month, from the UK to the states. Everything was in place, my esta, ticket, I had my pcr test done within 72 hours of me travelling. On the 13th of July, I received an email stating that my ESTA had been cancelled. I was pissed but was prepared too. I just want to see this man of mine. The UK are in the wrong for putting certain countries on a Green, Amber or Red list knowing that you can't travel to them anyway.

    1. Annabell

      Simmy, i wanted to fly back to the states in the end of June everything was planned. For almost 3/4 weeks ago my ESTA got canceled too!! I’ve them back but it’s insane… Im still on the same waiting list like you. Now I fly over Istanbul in August.

  4. italdesign

    China, with one of the lowest Covid rates since mid last year, never left the ban. That tells you everything you need to know about the ban.

    1. Jan

      Imagine actually believing China.

  5. D3kingg

    I just wanna fly long haul to Asia. If the Covid cases drop they drop. One World Emerald and Platinum Pro will be useless if Asia doesn’t reopen to tourism in 2022.

  6. Jennifer

    This is beyond ridiculous. My 70 yo mother while vaccinated can’t come to visit us, this President is a joke.

  7. Akhts

    "The coming weeks or months"/"late summer or early fall" is already much too late. Any extra day of suffering for families and couples kept apart is twisting the knife in the wound. This is NOT good news nor is it grounds for hope. It's already been hopeless for such a long time.

  8. Henry

    This is not about science. An unvaccinated USA passport holder can travel to most of the EU and return at will.

    I as a UK passport holder and on a visa I can not travel to the UK and return directly. Despite being fully vaccinated.

    So no there is no science or sense to this. The EU lost leverage in reopening and having no reciprocation with the USA.

    I can’t vote in the USA but strikes me this lot are just as bad as the last lot in following the actual science.

  9. Lukas

    Utter madness. So, as a fully vaccinated EU citizen (with Pfizer, providing at least 80% protection against Delta and almost full protection from serious illness or death), fully tested AND fully FFP2/N95 double masked, I'm not able to visit without first spending two weeks in Mexico/Turkey/UAE/..., but an unvaccinated person from e.g. Russia and other countries with MUCH, much higher infection rates (and probably more shady testing) are more than welcome as casual tourists to...

    Utter madness. So, as a fully vaccinated EU citizen (with Pfizer, providing at least 80% protection against Delta and almost full protection from serious illness or death), fully tested AND fully FFP2/N95 double masked, I'm not able to visit without first spending two weeks in Mexico/Turkey/UAE/..., but an unvaccinated person from e.g. Russia and other countries with MUCH, much higher infection rates (and probably more shady testing) are more than welcome as casual tourists to the US? If you ban EU citizens, why not just ban everyone from all other countries? I hate to say it, but the Trump admin policies actually made much more sense. I would never in a million years expected this messed up policy to stay in place now that vaccinations are widespread - and HIGHLY effective against Delta. As others have noted, covid will probably stick around for many more years and new variants be introduced to the population - will the US just keep EU citizens out for the rest of Biden's term, or what's the plan?

  10. John Cantu

    Well...these guys mention everyday the 'science' . Where this 'science' comes from ? Apparently from Moscow. Anybody realize, that Russians can travel to US and never been banned ? Despite the Delta over there, despite the false statistics....Moreover, Indians also arrive to US just with 2 weeks stop in Russia. Welcome to US ! ban for Western Europe.
    Well...Putin is a master, indeed.
    No any 'science' involved here, just the politics. Keep in mind that.

  11. HB

    We re all going to get this virus, so with that lets vaccinate and move on. It's pointless keeping us locked down and away from our families across the world because we both have more or less exactly the same situation. Take advantage of the Science, the vaccines, the testing regimes we can employ and start to open travel.

    Any politicians who cant reconcile with science or want to get embroiled in the politics of...

    We re all going to get this virus, so with that lets vaccinate and move on. It's pointless keeping us locked down and away from our families across the world because we both have more or less exactly the same situation. Take advantage of the Science, the vaccines, the testing regimes we can employ and start to open travel.

    Any politicians who cant reconcile with science or want to get embroiled in the politics of it can always be dismissed at the ballot box, starting with the hypocrites in the White House

    And if NZ and AUS think they can lock down and combat this then they have another thing coming. As soon as they open up, and they will sooner or later, this thing will rip through like a whirlwind. Maybe they will have been vaccinated so most 99% cases will be mild, or maybe they'll stay locked down forever

  12. dn10

    Can someone ELI5 this to me? Can I as a US citizen visit an EU country (e.g. Ireland) for a week and then come back to the US? It's only that people who aren't US Citizens who are in those regions who are banned to travel to the US?

    1. Jackie_Choune

      Yes you can. Us citizens, green card holders (ie permanent residents) and immediate relatives of us citizens (ie the father of an American kid) can avoid this ban - which makes it even more pointless. And Europe does not ban us travelers anymore (since June)

  13. Icarus

    It p— me off that Americans are allowed to travel to Europe. They can even still come to the U.K. provided they home quarantine. It should absolutely be reciprocal. Europeans also need to pay for and apply for an ESTA. There’s no equivalent ( yet). As such , Americans should be banned from travel unless it’s for the same exceptional reasons as Europeans to the US and should apply for a visa

  14. Jim

    Not entirely true. I have in laws coming from Japan on the 7th Aug. They'll be here for 6 weeks.

    1. Florian

      Citing from the article:

      "Currently there are travel bans against Brazil, China, India, the Schengen Zone, South Africa, and the United Kingdom, among other countries."

      Where did Ben mention Japan?

    2. Robert Schrader

      Japanese are not banned from the US, but they should be. Japan currently bans all foreigners; they have one of the hardest borders in the world.

  15. Abel

    Seems like we're headed toward a slowing of travel in an effort to prevent the spread of the virus. New restrictions happening in the EU and some states in the US, etc. Some smart countries (NZ for example) are allocating funds for revamping tourist areas that won't have tourism going forward as the market shrinks for the long term.

    The evidence suggests that the vaccines while reducing serious cases and death, don't last very long...

    Seems like we're headed toward a slowing of travel in an effort to prevent the spread of the virus. New restrictions happening in the EU and some states in the US, etc. Some smart countries (NZ for example) are allocating funds for revamping tourist areas that won't have tourism going forward as the market shrinks for the long term.

    The evidence suggests that the vaccines while reducing serious cases and death, don't last very long and don't stop the spread. It's time to for effective intervention so the pandemic can end. Restrictions will need to be imposed until this is under control.

    Countries like China continue to handle the virus well with strict rules and limited travel. Maybe the US is getting smart and following the lead of countries that have managed the virus successfully. It's about time the US learned the lessons demonstrated by other affluent nations - South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, China, etc.

    1. Luke

      So your asking for the US to partake a Australia like covid zero approach and lockdowns which can potentially be forever?

    2. abel

      Countries like Australia and China are keeping the population safe while growing their economies. Seems smart.

      Until something comes along to slow the deaths it seems that international travel may have to wait. The UK and Israel are making it pretty clear that we're not ready to get back to normal - yet. The Icelandic epidemiologist basically said - the vaccines don't work. The vaccines are short-lived and less effective than hoped. We'll get there...

      Countries like Australia and China are keeping the population safe while growing their economies. Seems smart.

      Until something comes along to slow the deaths it seems that international travel may have to wait. The UK and Israel are making it pretty clear that we're not ready to get back to normal - yet. The Icelandic epidemiologist basically said - the vaccines don't work. The vaccines are short-lived and less effective than hoped. We'll get there eventually. The vaccines are good but not good enough to open the travel floodgates. International travel is a fairly recent development anyway and it'll be back in a decade or two. Plagues change the course of history. That's the nature of the game.

      A good place to start on fixing this would be for US folks to get vaccinated. It's a shame that the lead the US had on this has been allowed to slip away. Iceland refused to open travel until about 80% of eligible were vaccinated. That was smart. Now vaccine effectiveness is waning in the US and it's time to get boosters but so many Americans haven't had their first dose.

    3. Robert Schrader

      If you think that international travel should cease for *decades*, why are you posting on a blog written by and for lovers of international travel?

      Also, the Wuhan coronavirus is not a "plague." It has killed around 1 in 1,700 people, having spread unmitigated through the human population for 18 months. Over the same span of time, the Spanish Flu (which is still circulating today) killed 1 in 40.

      Either you are a concern troll...

      If you think that international travel should cease for *decades*, why are you posting on a blog written by and for lovers of international travel?

      Also, the Wuhan coronavirus is not a "plague." It has killed around 1 in 1,700 people, having spread unmitigated through the human population for 18 months. Over the same span of time, the Spanish Flu (which is still circulating today) killed 1 in 40.

      Either you are a concern troll just trying to stir the pot, or an utter moron who thinks he's Einstein. Either way, you should direct your filth elsewhere. This is not the place for it.

    4. Fed Up With Everyone’s BS

      Abel, you are the perfect example of what is wrong with this world.

      Also, you guys have no idea the impact this has for families and loved ones. Travel aside my fiance and I are unable to marry, see our families, or get visas approved. There are so many more like us out there. This is criminal and lawmakers should be held accountable for what they are doing to families whilst they flit around...

      Abel, you are the perfect example of what is wrong with this world.

      Also, you guys have no idea the impact this has for families and loved ones. Travel aside my fiance and I are unable to marry, see our families, or get visas approved. There are so many more like us out there. This is criminal and lawmakers should be held accountable for what they are doing to families whilst they flit around the globe test and quarantine free to their islands and holidays of their choice. Wish more people would take a stand as we pay their salaries. Wake up and remember this is another version of the f****** flu!!!!! No numbers reported for the 600k plus a year that normally die from pneumonia in America…

    5. HB

      hello? when do you think that will ever be? All the once so called 'smart' countries now have ripping rates of infection. The smart countries are the ones like the UK who have reconciled to living with it rather than inflicting misery on its citizens. You want the Chinese model of authoritarian control here in the US? Just try it!!

    6. BernardBlack

      Your contention is that it's "smart" to abandon tourism and throw money at converting tourism-adapted people and locations into something else?

    7. Robert Schrader

      I’m willing to bet this Abel person is a Kiwi. There is a large contingent of people in New Zealand who want to abandon tourism in the long-term and keep the country’s borders closed indefinite, in service (of course) of some sustainable, “green” utopia.

  16. JBR

    The vaccines that have been approved in the E.U. (BioNTech/Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson, and Astra Zeneca) are largely the same vaccines approved in the U.S. with the exception of AstraZeneca. All E.U. approved vaccines protect almost all recipients jabbed from serious infection that could lead to hospitalization and death. And over 50% of people in the E.U. have received at least one dose of one of their approved vaccines. It's past time that their...

    The vaccines that have been approved in the E.U. (BioNTech/Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson, and Astra Zeneca) are largely the same vaccines approved in the U.S. with the exception of AstraZeneca. All E.U. approved vaccines protect almost all recipients jabbed from serious infection that could lead to hospitalization and death. And over 50% of people in the E.U. have received at least one dose of one of their approved vaccines. It's past time that their citizens as well as U.K. citizens be permitted to enter the U.S. If not now, then when? Covid-19 is not going away for many years, if ever. The U.S. needs to learn to live with Covid and accept that people (when fully vaccinated) will have to make personal decisions about their hygiene and mask wearing with the exception of situations and times when ICU's in cities, regions, states, etc are full or on the brink of being full, in which case mask mandates and shutdowns should/have to be re-instated. And those who are unvaccinated and don't wear masks will have to learn the hard way to get vaccinated. But what is already happening in the U.S. is that progressive cities and counties like Los Angeles County, and St. Louis City/County, where infections are rising but hospitals are not at capacity with Covid patients, are bringing back mask mandates while cities in MAGA-land like Springfield, Missouri where hospitals are over-capacity and overrun with unvaccinated Covid patients are not. This is going to repeat itself all over the Country and literally drive people crazy in progressive America, because people in progressive America are going to realize that a continual cycle of mask mandates and shudowns will be reality not for months or a year, but for many years. Progressives need to truly trust the vaccines, and realize that it's not the end of the world if fully vaccinated people get infected as in almost all cases fully vaccinated people get flu-like or cold symptoms which almost never end up in hospitalization and death. And they need to stop caring about those unvaccinated adults who choose not to get vaccinated: those people have had months to get vaccinated for free at this point, and it's on them if they end up in the hospital or die.

    1. Englishder

      @JBR. Don't forget that a few weeks ago the GOV.UK website was reporting that a vaccine "accepted" by the UK NHS was good for USA to UK travel and to also avoid quarantining in place. These would include Pfizer, Moderna, J&J & Astra Zeneca, but not vaccines from China and Russia. Interestingly that language silently changed just very recently [not sure what date] to vaccines having to be "administered" in the UK - ie USA...

      @JBR. Don't forget that a few weeks ago the GOV.UK website was reporting that a vaccine "accepted" by the UK NHS was good for USA to UK travel and to also avoid quarantining in place. These would include Pfizer, Moderna, J&J & Astra Zeneca, but not vaccines from China and Russia. Interestingly that language silently changed just very recently [not sure what date] to vaccines having to be "administered" in the UK - ie USA travelers would have to have been vaccinated IN THE UK, which very few have been. Ridiculous.

    2. Jamieo

      The UK can only verify vaccination status of those vaccinated in the UK. There are plenty of fake US vaccine cards and certificates floating around. This is no different than Hawaii allowing travelers to avoid testing but only if they were vaccinated in Hawaii.

  17. Annabell

    This is insane!!!!!!

    I’m from Europe (Germany) I wait to travel back to California. American CAN travel to Europe and explore, like fucking celebrities they travel even all the closed boarders.. they should also be banned from Europe as well…. They have to reopening the boarders too!!! It’s not about the covid/delta anymore it’s about to get vaccinated!!! They told us when we get the vaccine shot we can travel back to the states!!! NOTHING IS HAPPENING IT ALL!!!

  18. Robert Schrader

    Once a pathogen has been introduced into a population, travel bans are pointless. It's like using an umbrella to keep yourself dry while submerged in the ocean. Madness. Science backed this up in every past pandemic; not sure why the rules suddenly changed for a not-so-novel coronavirus that is mild in more than 99% of the people it infects.

    The US could—it should—be leading the way in implementing rational travel policies that reflect the much-changed,...

    Once a pathogen has been introduced into a population, travel bans are pointless. It's like using an umbrella to keep yourself dry while submerged in the ocean. Madness. Science backed this up in every past pandemic; not sure why the rules suddenly changed for a not-so-novel coronavirus that is mild in more than 99% of the people it infects.

    The US could—it should—be leading the way in implementing rational travel policies that reflect the much-changed, much-improved reality of July 2021. Instead, Biden and co. stay mired in the days of March 2020, like most of the rest of the world, enslaved to Fauci and the medical cartel instead of using his advice to make their own decisions.

    The fact that people are praising Biden for his maintenance of these bans (which he vociferously—correctly—argued against when Trump put them in place) goes to show that American politics has devolved into competing cults of personality, and has nothing to do with policy or even facts.

    Also, why are so many of the people who read this blog rooting against travel and the travel industry?

    1. April Jackson

      Travel bans make no sense anymore especially with different travel rules all over. Right now Biden allows Americans to travel everywhere but who still can still get and pass the virus along, and maybe kill unvaccinated people in other countries I might add. However, other people in other countries who are fully vaccinated can't enter the USA? So Biden is like let's let Americans get and pass the virus around in other countries but nobody...

      Travel bans make no sense anymore especially with different travel rules all over. Right now Biden allows Americans to travel everywhere but who still can still get and pass the virus along, and maybe kill unvaccinated people in other countries I might add. However, other people in other countries who are fully vaccinated can't enter the USA? So Biden is like let's let Americans get and pass the virus around in other countries but nobody else from other countries must do it in America What a bunch of bullshit. So all he's doing is potentially increasing rates in other countries if vaccinated people can still get covid and pass it along but not for his own country. Biden must just make vaccines mandatory for travel and open up international traveling for everyone. Period. He's a dickhead

    2. Giovanna

      Well to be honest, it's not Biden allowing Americans to travel around the world, it's the World's countries allowing Americans in! Here in Italy we have 57% of population over 12 fully vaccinated, that's more than the US so it would be logical to have a ban on the US and not the other way round!
      Biden's travel ban hasn't got any sense anymore. Open up to the vaccinated and request a test.

  19. HB

    Based on what Science?: Same Vaccination level, same variants, same testing capability

    Seems a bit hypocritical given that
    1. US Citizens can travel to Europe
    2. Many can travel to the US from countries where there is less control on COVID an Vaccination
    3. Anyone can walk in over the southern border unchallenged, refuse a COVID test, be released and be bussed or flown to a location in the US

    I think if international travel is a bad idea let it be a two way ban.

  20. C. Weston

    The Spanish flu extended well into the end of the second year, an indication that Covid infections could prolong at least till the end of 2021 and into the first quarter of 2022.

    The Spanish Flu never went away, it snuck in the background and people gained immunity to fight the virus. Studies says that the virus strain (H1N1) that caused the pandemic stayed back as the seasonal flu, and at times, merged with other...

    The Spanish flu extended well into the end of the second year, an indication that Covid infections could prolong at least till the end of 2021 and into the first quarter of 2022.

    The Spanish Flu never went away, it snuck in the background and people gained immunity to fight the virus. Studies says that the virus strain (H1N1) that caused the pandemic stayed back as the seasonal flu, and at times, merged with other types of flu (bird flu, swine flu, etc) to create more dangerous strains – the outbreaks that happened in 1957 (H2N2 virus, Asian flu), 1968 (H3N2 virus, Hong Kong flu) and 2009 (H1N1, Swine flu) were all contributed in part by the Spanish Flu virus.

    With Covid-19, the vaccine sure will give us immunity and perhaps help the world regain normalcy. But only time will tell if it will help us fight all the variants the virus might mutate into. There is also the possibility that like the seasonal flu, Covid-19 too lingers around, and returns every once in a while, regularly.

  21. Vicente Russo

    I trust Biden’s Administration policies. He reversed the disastrous policies from previous con man that led to 600,000 Covid deaths.

    1. Robert Schrader

      In fact, these travel bans represent a continuation of Trump policies.

    2. HB

      what are you talking about?

      Trumps Ban made sense at the time and saved millions of lives whilst we got testing, masking and vaccines (in record time) in place.
      Now it does not, it makes no sense.

      Do you trust a man who allows MS13, child abusers, drug travelers and the infected to pour in unchecked yet keeping vaccinated families who play by the rules apart sensible or fair.

      No me neither

    3. CHRIS

      But I thought travel bans are racist?

  22. M de Roo

    It makes no logic. The Delta variant and infections are the same everywhere. We have vaccinations and can have test policies. No reason for an entry ban whatsoever

  23. Man

    "late summer or early fall" - do you mean break of November / December? Summer in Brazil? Or anything else? The only thing I feel bad is that UE countries let US citizens to come... this is so pathetic.

  24. Chris

    I don't have a problem with it and glad we have a new administration.

  25. THEsocalledfan

    You nailed it Ben. This is now all about using fear as a political tool. Every expert worth a grain of salt expects COVID to be endemic like the flu, and we need to start acting like it. Further, mRNA vaccines are much easier to update as variants change, and as you said, even the original vaccine is working well. All we are doing is hurting families and businesses.

    The focus should be on vaccination,...

    You nailed it Ben. This is now all about using fear as a political tool. Every expert worth a grain of salt expects COVID to be endemic like the flu, and we need to start acting like it. Further, mRNA vaccines are much easier to update as variants change, and as you said, even the original vaccine is working well. All we are doing is hurting families and businesses.

    The focus should be on vaccination, vaccination, and vaccination. I'm no Biden fan, but at least he seems to understand this.

  26. S Bradshaw

    Another article with the priority of casual travel. Just intentionally ignore common sense along with the comments. Being vaccinated does not mean that you are completely immune from anything. Start pushing blame where it should be on your fellow citizens who insist on staying unvaccinated and helping to spread the virus, including to vaccinated.
    Adding a vaccination rule for entry would be pointless when vaccinated people are testing positive. That's the purpose of still...

    Another article with the priority of casual travel. Just intentionally ignore common sense along with the comments. Being vaccinated does not mean that you are completely immune from anything. Start pushing blame where it should be on your fellow citizens who insist on staying unvaccinated and helping to spread the virus, including to vaccinated.
    Adding a vaccination rule for entry would be pointless when vaccinated people are testing positive. That's the purpose of still requiring a test and almost every country does this.
    Banning a country is not an easy decision and it may be time to end this, but ONLY because our own citizens in this country is now causing the spread.
    I work at a University so I've seen first hand how this can affect people. Some students decided not to go back home overseas because they were worried they wouldn't be allowed back in- turned out they made the right decision. Put your casual traveling desires on the back burner- there are higher priorities.

    1. stogieguy7

      Vaccination makes a huge difference. Your odds of hospitalization or death from Covid go down to near what they are for the seasonal flu or certain rhinoviruses. Get the vaccination and you don't need to worry about it - if you get it, it's not that bad. If we handle this your way, we will be locked down forever. Unacceptable.

      Agree that unvaccinated people are cranking up the numbers. But if you make that decision, you pay the consequences for it.

    2. Florian

      It's not up to you to decide what kind of travel is casual and what is essential.

  27. stogieguy7

    For one thing, these various travel bans are based on political stupidity rather than on common sense or science. Secondly, let's just get a vaccine passport program going so that those of us who are fully vaxxed can be left the eff alone to travel as we wish - without the harassment of red tape. If you're vaccinated, your risk of getting the virus is low (and if you do, you won't get that sick)...

    For one thing, these various travel bans are based on political stupidity rather than on common sense or science. Secondly, let's just get a vaccine passport program going so that those of us who are fully vaxxed can be left the eff alone to travel as we wish - without the harassment of red tape. If you're vaccinated, your risk of getting the virus is low (and if you do, you won't get that sick) and your risk of giving it to someone is even lower. Leave the fully vaccinated pax to resume life.

  28. CHRIS

    Not even Biden follows the logic of the Biden administration.

  29. Joe Chivas

    Thank goodness we have a President who is following the science to protect American lives.

    1. HB

      What science? Its all political now.

  30. Joe

    Absolute insanity. Europe + the UK should actively ban the US at this point citing pure reciprocity as the problem.

  31. Shawn

    The issue is viruses as we’ve seen can be highly mutagenic so given many aren’t vaccinated in the US or other countries there could be another potential variant, possibly becoming immune to the vaccine, if all brakes are let up.

    Had anyone heard any credible Heath expert which suggests the ban should be lifted?

    I know all of us, myself included, want to get back into overseas travel but I’m not sure the...

    The issue is viruses as we’ve seen can be highly mutagenic so given many aren’t vaccinated in the US or other countries there could be another potential variant, possibly becoming immune to the vaccine, if all brakes are let up.

    Had anyone heard any credible Heath expert which suggests the ban should be lifted?

    I know all of us, myself included, want to get back into overseas travel but I’m not sure the timing is right.

    Kyle - that timeline wasn’t based on science but some voodoo time given. They have may then July then sept then holidays. Finally landing on January. It had no basis in science and even if you argue it did, stuff changes. Case in point the rise of the delta variant.

    1. jcil

      What people need to come to grips with is the Covid virus is going to be with us for hundreds of years, if not longer. Essentially forever. And yes, there will always be the possibility of new mutations. It will be just like the "regular" flu virus floating about.

      The decision individuals and countries have to make is how to go forward, given the above fact. There is the "Covid 0" way of Australia--A fools...

      What people need to come to grips with is the Covid virus is going to be with us for hundreds of years, if not longer. Essentially forever. And yes, there will always be the possibility of new mutations. It will be just like the "regular" flu virus floating about.

      The decision individuals and countries have to make is how to go forward, given the above fact. There is the "Covid 0" way of Australia--A fools errand in my view--where you plan to keep the country essentially on house arrest forever (in Sydney the current rules allow one to leave their home only for basic necessities, not go over 6 miles from home, and not even talk to anyone as that increases the transmission risk. Under penalty of arrest. The fearful also believe that vaccines are useless because the virus will mutate into a strain the vaccine is not effective on.

      Or the world can learn to live with the virus and begin to get back to a semblance of normal, taking precautions to protect the most at risk.

      Also--there are NO credible health experts left in the US government or WHO. They are all political operatives who base their guidance on their desired political outcomes. Fauci is a perfect example, a man who has self admittedly lied to the US people, and continues to do so daily.

    2. Textuality

      Aside from some good old fashioned xenophobia, what makes say, someone from Canada or Germany more likely to create a new variant than the good old USA? Not least because USA's vaccination rate is awful and the case rates are higher per capita than those countries.

      The virus isn't magic, variants can come from anywhere.

    3. Florian

      "but I’m not sure the timing is right"

      It won't get much better than this. The virus will continue to circulate, new variants will emerge, vaccines will have to be updated etc. Some parts of the world will have better access to vaccines, yet many people globally will continue to refuse to get a shot, for whatever reason. If this is enough to impose restrictions, we will never ever be able to let go.

  32. Petr

    This ban is stupid. You can travel to US when spend 14 days in Mexico, Kostarica or DR, then you make Covid test a when is negative you can fly to US. Can someone explain me, what is difference between making covid test at home in EU and making test after 14 days in Mexico or other countries? When is negative then is negative and is no difference where you make your test... the US...

    This ban is stupid. You can travel to US when spend 14 days in Mexico, Kostarica or DR, then you make Covid test a when is negative you can fly to US. Can someone explain me, what is difference between making covid test at home in EU and making test after 14 days in Mexico or other countries? When is negative then is negative and is no difference where you make your test... the US should either close the borders to everyone or open for all countries with proof or negative test or vaccine. All experts or border patrol say this BAN is stupid. The sad thing is, it would be no better under Trump.

  33. Ryan

    The problem is that the current 'ban' is based on a Trump edict from March 2020 and hasn't been updated since. It focuses only on the Schengen area and doesn't reflect the shifting risks as certain areas see growth in cases and others decrease. For this 'ban' to have any credibility, it needs to be more dynamic and updated on a regular basis and it needs to start to consider things like vaccination or other potential mitigation.

    1. miamiorbust

      Election happened 9 months ago. Please move on. Government policy - good or bad - is all on Uncle Joe. When he wakes up from his nap, I'm sure he'll adopt a more sensible policy.

  34. uldguy

    I find it a bit disingenuous on behalf of the U.S. to, on the one hand, literally beg people to get vaccinated, but on the other hand say that even if you’re fully vaccinated you’re still not welcome here.

    1. David

      Why is it disingenuous? You can infect others even if you're vaccinated, so until enough people get vaccinated, the population is still vulnerable to even vaccinated travelers.

    2. Florian

      Well at some point I gotta say: Their problem if they don't get vaccinated. It's not like there is a shortage in the US, or in Europe.

  35. Kyle

    Trump admin was set to remove this ban in January, unfortunately Biden reversed it. This is just insane. I miss the former President.

    1. ChrisC

      If Trump had won he wouldn't have rescinded his own ban. It would be like he was admitting to making a mistake in the first place.

      He rescinded it out of pure spite.

    2. Paul STERN

      The ban was not removed so one can hardly speak of a "reversal". One should not forget the cockup Trump made in February when he failed to take the necessary steps to control the influx of travelers into the US. It is understandable that mistakes do not want to be repeated. Having said that, I dont really understand the reason to uphold a ban for travelers entering from Schengen - it is not that the COVID status quo is vastly different between EUR and US ‍♂️

  36. Ralfinho

    This is somewhat discouraging. Yes, maybe this will change in a few weeks ... or a few months. But with this uncertainty and without any roadmap it is difficult to start planning.
    Usually, such trips are planned in advance. Planning where to go, find airfares, find accomodations. Renting a super expensive rental car (as long as one is still available). And, not to forget, employers like to know well in advance when their employees...

    This is somewhat discouraging. Yes, maybe this will change in a few weeks ... or a few months. But with this uncertainty and without any roadmap it is difficult to start planning.
    Usually, such trips are planned in advance. Planning where to go, find airfares, find accomodations. Renting a super expensive rental car (as long as one is still available). And, not to forget, employers like to know well in advance when their employees want to take longer vacations (longer than just a single day).
    Since there is no reason for the current travel ban on us [(vaccinated) Europeans in my case] it is hard to believe that it will be lifted soon.

  37. Textuality

    "CITING DELTA VARIANT"

    The same Variant that's 89% of sequenced US cases? Horse has long since bolted, and likely made it as far as Canada by this point.

    Makes about as much sense as the UK being closed to anywhere other than countries where the Beta variant is prevalent.

    1. Giovanna

      I'm fairly sure the Beta variant isn't prevalent in any country anymore. Here in Europe it's all Delta (and from what I've read in the rest of the world too).

  38. Sosie

    I am sad that my grandparents from London would miss another wedding

  39. Andy

    Well, the primary objective is to restrict European competitors from entering or serving the US market (non tariff hindrance of trade). So the current regulation (Europe open for Americans but not vv) serves the
    purpose.

    1. Another Lump

      Hey bozos, just cross the southern border, it's open for business, no lines, no security checks.

    2. Florian

      It is relatively easy to get an NIE for business, so I doubt that this is the reason.

    3. Henry

      It isn’t actually. According to government issued statistics 97.3% are declined.

    4. Simmy

      I looked into this. Maybe, this is the way to travel. I have a business too.

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Kyle

Trump admin was set to remove this ban in January, unfortunately Biden reversed it. This is just insane. I miss the former President.

miamiorbust

Election happened 9 months ago. Please move on. Government policy - good or bad - is all on Uncle Joe. When he wakes up from his nap, I'm sure he'll adopt a more sensible policy.

uldguy

I find it a bit disingenuous on behalf of the U.S. to, on the one hand, literally beg people to get vaccinated, but on the other hand say that even if you’re fully vaccinated you’re still not welcome here.

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