- Introduction: Four Seasons Yacht Via Turkmenistan & Saudi Arabia
- Review: Lufthansa Allegris Business Class Boeing 787 (AUS-FRA)
- Review: Lufthansa Welcome Lounge Frankfurt Airport (FRA)
- Review: Priority Lounge Frankfurt Airport Terminal 3 (FRA)
- Review: Turkmenistan Airlines Business Class Boeing 777 (FRA-ASB)
- Review: Business Lounge Ashgabat Airport, Turkmenistan (ASB)
- Review: Turkmenistan Airlines Business Class Boeing 737 (ASB-DEL)
- Review: Encalm Xenia Lounge Delhi Airport (DEL)
- Review: Air India Maharaja Business Lounge Delhi Airport (DEL)
- Review: Air India Maharaja First Lounge Delhi Airport (DEL)
- Review: Air India First Class Boeing 777 (DEL-FRA)
- Review: Airelles Palladio Venice, Italy (What A Gorgeous City Resort!)
- Four Seasons Yachts Cruise Review: Suites, Dining, Amenities, Service, And More
- Villa Dubrovnik Review: Croatia’s Gorgeous Cliffside Luxury Hotel
- Saudia Business Class Boeing 787 Review (AMS-JED): What A Stellar Flight!
- Saudia Business Class Airbus A330 Review (JED-RUH): Great Experience!
- Bab Samhan Diriyah Review: Unique Marriott Luxury Collection Hotel Near Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
- Riyadh Air Hafawa Lounge Riyadh Airport (RUH) Review: World-Class Experience!
- Riyadh Air Business Class Boeing 787 Review: A Sleek, Luxurious Flight
- SWISS First Lounge Zurich Airport (ZRH) Terminal A Review: Impressive!
- SWISS First Lounge Zurich Airport (ZRH) Terminal E Review: Terrace, Top-Tier Dining, And Bedrooms!
- SWISS First Class Airbus A350 Review: A Double Suite In The Sky!
Four Seasons Yachts are best booked through Four Seasons Preferred Partner travel advisors. They can get you the best price, and also add a shipboard credit. Ford and his team are happy to help with any requests, and can be reached at [email protected].
For the next portion of my Four Seasons Yacht via Turkmenistan and Saudi Arabia adventure, Ford and I spent a week sailing with Four Seasons Yachts, which is the new Four Seasons cruise venture (as you may have guessed based on the name). This launched in early 2026, with just 95 suites.
Historically, I haven’t been much of a cruiser, but I’m intrigued by the direction the industry is headed. Earlier this year, I reviewed Ritz-Carlton Yacht Collection, and had a great experience, so I figured I also had to check out Four Seasons Yachts, even though it’s even more upmarket.
All-in-all, we had a great time cruising with Four Seasons Yachts. The ship is breathtakingly beautiful, and in terms of hard product, this is simply to a different level than other cruise lines, like Ritz-Carlton Yacht Collection. The suites will make you think you’re at a Four Seasons resort, and will make you forget you’re on a ship.
That being said, the soft product was a bit of a mixed bag. The staff were lovely and well intentioned, though it still felt like there were way more service issues than there should be at this price point. And I think that’s really what any issues come down to — when you’re priced at the very top end of the market, you expect (near) perfection, and it just felt like there were still kinks to work out.
All-in-all, I think this is a solid product for those who are fans of the Four Seasons brand, and who may not be big cruisers. However, if you’re a seasoned cruiser, you may be put off by the pricing model, given you have to pay for most meals and drinks.
Four Seasons Yachts itinerary, pricing, and how to book
Four Seasons Yachts charges per suite (rather than per person, based on double occupancy), and you’ll find that journeys typically cost anywhere from $2,000-5,000 per night for a base suite. This is obviously at the top end of the cruise market, and that’s also the entry level pricing — there are some insane suites onboard, which retail for six figures per week.
For what it’s worth, you’ll find rate parity regardless of which booking channel you reserve through. So your best bet is to book through a travel advisor affiliated with Four Seasons Preferred Partner, because they can add perks to your journey. The size of the credit depends on the accommodation type booked, plus the length of the journey. Ford and his team are happy to help with these requests, and can be reached at [email protected].
So, how did we book our journey? Well, we initially booked a Caribbean cruise for January 2026, shortly after Four Seasons Yachts was supposed to launch. That cost around $21,000 for the seven night journey (I know, that’s obviously a lot, but I was trying to review the experience early on). However, the ship’s debut ended up being delayed, so our journey was canceled.
As a result, Four Seasons offered to let us rebook on another journey with 30% off, plus an additional $2,000 onboard credit (beyond the $600 credit offered through Four Seasons Preferred Partner, for a total of $2,600 in onboard credits).
Based on our schedule at the time, we rebooked on an Adriatic cruise for late July. Obviously I typically try to avoid Europe in July, but purely in terms of our schedule, this was the itinerary that worked best, and my goal was to review the product ASAP.
That journey cost significantly more, given seasonality, and retailed for around $35,000, before the 30% discount and additional onboard credit. So in the end, we paid roughly the same amount for this cruise, even though the retail price was much higher.
Specifically, below is the Dalmatian Coast itinerary we booked, featuring Croatia and Montenegro.
Date | Port | Arrival | Departure |
|---|---|---|---|
Sun, July 19 | Fusina, Italy | – | 5:00pm |
Mon, July 20 | Opatija, Croatia | 8:00am | 7:00pm |
Tue, July 21 | Dalmatian Coast | 8:00am | 5:00pm |
Wed, July 22 | Vodice, Croatia | 7:00am | 3:00pm |
Šibenik, Croatia | 5:00pm | 12:00am | |
Thu, July 23 | Vis, Croatia | 8:00am | 6:00pm |
Fri, July 24 | Portonovi, Montenegro | 8:00am | 12:00am |
Sat, July 25 | Korčula, Croatia | 8:00am | 5:00pm |
Sun, July 26 | Dubrovnik, Croatia | Debark |
For what it’s worth, we tendered at five of the stops, we docked at one of the stops, and the “Dalmatian Coast” day was one where we had a marina day, so guests couldn’t actually leave the ship.
Four Seasons Yachts inclusions
Four Seasons Yachts is really countering the industry trend when it comes to what’s included with journeys. In the ultra luxury cruise space, you’ll typically find that fares are all-inclusive, so that your journey includes all meals, drinks, etc. In the case of Four Seasons Yachts, it’s a bit different.
As mentioned above, pricing at Four Seasons Yachts is per suite, which counters the industry trend of charging per person. That’s not a big deal one way or another, but just a technicality (since per person pricing is often based on double occupancy). Beyond that:
- Four Seasons Yachts pricing includes your accommodation, breakfast, and non-alcoholic drinks and light snacks in the minibar
- Four Seasons Yachts charges extra for lunch, dinner, and beverages, aside from drinks at breakfast (or at the coffee shop in the morning) and drinks in the minibar; the exception is that children ages five and under receive complimentary dining throughout the ship, except through room service
- Four Seasons Yachts journeys include Starlink Wi-Fi and gratuity (though since you’re given a check at most meals, there’s still the option to leave an additional gratuity)
- Four Seasons Yachts journeys also don’t include spa treatments, shore excursions, transfers, etc.
As I’ll explain in more detail below, fortunately pricing for food & drinks isn’t actually that crazy, and a vast majority of our onboard spending was covered by the shipboard credits we had. Really my biggest beef with this system is that it just makes every interaction feel more transactional, since you always have to ask for a check, wait on the check, etc.
Four Seasons Yachts ship layout & basics
Four Seasons Yachts currently has a single ship, which is named Four Seasons I (okay, it’s not exactly the most creative name, but I guess there’s no mistaking what brand it belongs to!).
The ship entered service in 2026, it’s 679 feet (207 meters) long, 89 feet (27 meters) wide, and is 34,000 gross tons. With 95 accommodations and a maximum capacity of around 200 guests, the brand promotes a 1:1 staff to guest ratio.
It has to be acknowledged just how spacious this ship is, compared to the number of accommodations. As a point of comparison, Ritz-Carlton Yacht Collection’s smallest ship, Evrima, is 624 feet (190 meters) long, 78 feet (24 meters) wide, and is 25,400 gross tons. That ship has 149 accommodations, and can accommodate around 300 guests.
So that really puts into perspective the insane amount of space that each guest has on Four Seasons Yachts. When it comes to the ship’s design, as you can see, the exterior is mostly cream-colored. Personally I think the ship looks pretty cool and sleek from the front, while from the back it looks a bit more like a toy boat you’d have in your bathtub (based on how the back area of the boat is “open,” since it’s where the main pool is located).


For those curious, you can see the entire Four Seasons I deck plan here. There are nine floors accessible by guests, and that includes levels three through 11.
Decks seven through nine are exclusively dedicated to accommodations, while deck 11 has one of the lounges and a small pool, and decks six, five, and four, have most of the public areas, including the main pool, dining, spa, gym, kids club, theater, and more. Then deck three is where the tender lobby and marina are located.

I found it pretty easy to get around the ship. The two sets of elevators plus the main staircase were located toward the forward part of the ship, so were always pretty easy to find.

There was also a more “grand” staircase that just spanned three floors, covering levels four through six, where you’ll find most of the ship’s amenities.

Four Seasons Yachts check-in, boarding, and tendering
We spent the night before our cruise at Airelles Palladio Venice, as our journey was departing from Fusina (the cruise port of Venice). While the departure time was 5PM, boarding could take place between 2PM and 3:30PM, so that’s a pretty narrow window. Admittedly it’s a small ship, but as you’d expect, that also means it gets pretty busy during that period.
All things considered, the process was smooth. We arrived at the port by water taxi, and our bags were then taken, and we were escorted into the check-in area.

Once inside the check-in hall, we were offered welcome drinks, and then within about 15 minutes, we were all checked in, went through the security checks, and then boarded the ship. Each guest was escorted by one of the port employees, so it was pretty seamless.

At the entrance to the ship, each party was greeted by one of the senior officers, to be given a basic orientation of the ship, and to then eventually be handed off to the front office staff. In our case, we were welcomed by Mel, the ship’s general manager — she was incredibly professional, and had quite the hospitality resume, having spent much of her career at Mandarin Oriental, Atlantis The Royal Dubai, etc.
While waiting for our room to be ready, we were offered some complimentary drinks, including champagne.

There was even a caviar station, which guests could help themselves to.

The “generosity” (for a cruise that’s not all-inclusive) continued with the party the evening we began our sailing, as there was free flowing Dom Perignon. So while I’m not usually a fan of these “parties,” that’s something you definitely don’t want to miss out on.

Our departure experience in Dubrovnik was also seamless, and took all of a few minutes. That’s definitely a benefit of being on a smaller ship, like this.
When it comes to the various stops we made, most of them involved tendering. While that might not be so convenient on a big ship, it’s great on a small ship like this, since it means you have much better views while onboard, and getting to and from shore really isn’t complicated.
We’d always leave the ship via the tender marina on level three, which had plenty of seating, along with water, fruit, sunscreen, etc.



There were typically two tenders running continuously, so we never had to wait more than five or so minutes to catch a tender, which was great. A vast majority of the time, the tenders were also basically empty, so getting to and from shore was easy.


Four Seasons Yachts suite
Four Seasons Yachts markets itself as an all-suite product, and it does indeed have among the most spacious suites at sea. While we stayed in an entry level suite, some of the suite categories are absolutely insane, like the three bedroom Funnel Suite, located at the very top of the ship, as that’s nearly 10,000 square feet (over 920 square meters), including indoor and outdoor space.
Anyway, back to our (relatively) humble accommodations. 😉 We were staying in room 915, located on the ninth floor, and that was a Seaview Suite, as it was marketed. The hallways on Four Seasons Yachts are just gorgeous, and feel a lot more like hotel corridors than what you’d expect on a ship.

The standard suites are marketed as having 473 square feet (44 square meters) of interior space, with terraces spanning 64-140 square feet (6-13 square meters). Given that you’re on a cruise ship, this is massive for entry level accommodations.
Our suite featured a long entryway with the closet and bathroom to the right, and then the rest of the room straight ahead.

The main part of the room boasted a very comfortable signature Four Seasons bed, a sitting area with a small couch, and a TV. The design really feels more like what you’d expect at a Four Seasons resort, rather than on a ship, so they deserve very high marks for this.



I also loved the attention to detail with the design, including the glass display along one side of the room.


The cruise line seems pretty proud of how they have the world’s first transparent television at sea, a 55-inch LG T-OLED screen, which was engineered by Bang & Olufsen, exclusively for Four Seasons Yachts. I guess this cost tens of thousands of dollars — it certainly looks cool, though rather annoyingly, it doesn’t have stream casting capabilities, though they will bring a cord to your room, which enables that.

Waiting on the table was a welcome amenity, consisting of a chocolate replica of the Four Seasons Yachts ship (plus some soccer balls, since our departure coincided with the end of the World Cup). We were also offered a bottle of Bollinger champagne.


Back toward the entrance was the minibar area, with a Lavazza coffee machine, a kettle, and a variety of drinks and snacks.

All of the soft drinks and snacks were complimentary, while alcoholic drinks were available for sale.


You can find the minibar price list below.

Perhaps compared to your typical cruise ship, the single most impressive aspect of the room was the bathroom, which was absolutely gorgeous. It boasted double sinks, a large walk-in shower, and a toilet with a bidet function. There was no bathtub, but some larger suites do feature that.




There was also a good size closet space right by the entrance, which was (just barely) large enough to accommodate our luggage. There was also a laundry list in the closet, and while laundry isn’t complimentary, I did appreciate that the wash and fold service only cost $5 per pound, which is very reasonable if you have a bunch of underwear, socks, t-shirts, etc., to wash.

The last aspect of the room was the terrace space, which boasted a loveseat plus a chair.



All-in-all, I thought the suite was gorgeous, and can’t say enough good things about it. I should also mention that our room attendant, Andrea, was excellent. She did a thorough job cleaning our room and providing turndown service daily, and also timed it well based on our schedule.
She also checked on us constantly to see if we needed anything else. I had heard some complaints about housekeeping on Four Seasons Yachts, but we definitely didn’t experience that. I know on a lot of other ships, you have two attendants taking care of each room, but Andrea did a good job solo.
Four Seasons Yachts pool & deck space
For a ship of its size, Four Seasons Yachts has an utterly spectacular pool deck. At the back of deck five you’ll find the pool, which is 66 feet (20 meters) long and 20 feet (six meters) wide.



As you’d expect, there’s plenty of seating around the pool, with loungers, chairs with tables, daybeds, etc.


Perhaps my one complaint is that there’s no hot tub of any sort at the pool area, which seems like a missed opportunity.
Beyond the main pool, on level 11 there’s also a small plunge pool at the Horizon Lounge. It’s a lovely space, and I actually quite like the restaurant, but the pool as such is hard to get excited about. This area is adults-only, so I guess for some people that would be a selling point.


This area also looks out over the back of the ship, so there’s lots of nice seating here.


Four Seasons Yachts spa
The Four Seasons Yachts’ L’Oceana Spa is located on level four, and has to be one of the most impressive spa facilities at sea, for a ship of this size. The spa boasts locker rooms, five treatment rooms, a salon with nail and hair care, a huge sauna with ocean views, a hammam, an infrared chamber, a cryotherapy chamber, and more.










You can find the spa treatment list below. As you can see, treatments are pricey, but that’s pretty standard for cruise ships, given what a captive audience they have.


Ford and I had a couples massage, and the treatments were excellent. Here’s what really rubbed me the wrong way, though. Spa treatments have an 18% service charge, but that’s not disclosed anywhere. Not on the physical menu, not on the digital menu, not when you book, etc. And that’s not even a gratuity, as it doesn’t go directly to the therapist.
That’s false advertising, plain and simple. You can’t claim something costs one amount, and then charge another amount. What made it even worse, in my opinion, is that the invoice is presented in a way where you’re left to wonder why the price just jumps from $260 to $306.80. It doesn’t even disclose when you’re signing that there’s an 18% service charge.
I’ll talk more about service in a bit, but this was one small example of how I felt Four Seasons Yachts wasn’t ready for primetime. How is it that months into sailing, they hadn’t fixed this? I understand Four Seasons charges a lot for experiences, but at least be honest about how much things cost.

Four Seasons Yachts gym
Four Seasons Yachts has a gym on level four, right across from the spa. It’s accessible by guests 24/7, and when you consider this is a small ship, I’d say it’s a solid facility. Still, it got pretty busy in the mornings, but that’s not surprising, given that it’s when a lot of people want to work out.
The gym had a good selection of both cardio and weight equipment, including a huge range of free weights.





Four Seasons Yachts kids & teens club
The Four Seasons brand is known for being incredibly kids friendly, and Four Seasons Yachts is no exception. On level four, the ship has both a kids club and a teens club, and they’re nice spaces, with plenty of programming for young ones. This is a major advantage over Ritz-Carlton Yacht Collection, as the two bigger ships there don’t even have any sort of a kids club.






Four Seasons Yachts theater & entertainment
Four Seasons Yachts has a theater also located on level four, close to the kids club and teens club. It’s not a huge space, and frankly, it’s kind of an odd concept on a ship that’s this small.
Obviously on huge cruise ships, nightly shows are a big part of the experience. However, when you have fewer than 100 rooms and a different crowd (one that doesn’t usually cruise), the interest isn’t there in the same way.
So most nights they were just showing movies in here, though a couple of nights there was also a musical performance. I went one night, and most of the other people watching were from the ship’s music department, rather than guests.


When it comes to live entertainment, what I liked most was the live music in the ship’s main lounge. In particular, Francesca performed almost daily, and had such a beautiful voice and lovely vibe, so we made a point of seeing her every time she performed. A vast majority of the time, we were the only people there.
So the live music on the ship was generally great, and was one of the highlights for us. Admittedly not everyone else shared our excitement!
Four Seasons Yachts marina
One of the new trends we’re seeing with these smaller ultra-luxury ships is the concept of a “marina.” The idea is that on days where the ship is tendered and weather conditions permit, there’s a fun setup on the back of the ship.
For one, there’s a fully covered area, which opens up on both sides. When the marina is in use, there’s a bar setup here, so that you can order food and drinks.


That then leads to the inflatable marina area, which is super cool. The idea is that the water in the middle of the marina area acts as a “pool” of sorts, as it’s enclosed with a net, to minimize risk. You can’t actually jump off the marina and into the open sea, for example. This was a lovely setup, and we enjoyed our time here.

There were also some water sports, with everything from kayaks to eFoils, and more. The catch is that demand for these things is high, so I’d recommend coming early, because there’s potentially quite a wait.

Four Seasons Yachts restaurants & bars
Four Seasons Yachts markets that it has 11 distinct restaurant, bar, and lounge concepts. That’s perhaps a bit of a stretch, but to cover the basics of those options:
- Terrasse is the casual all-day dining restaurant, serving breakfast, lunch, and dinner
- Sedna is the fine dining restaurant, open for dinner
- Miuna is the omakase sushi counter, open for dinner
- Horizon Lounge is the top floor adults-only Moroccan-inspired lounge, serving drinks and light meals throughout the day
- Pistachio is the lobby cafe, offering coffee, pastries, sandwiches, and more
- Bar O is the 1960s inspired cocktail bar, open in the evenings
- Salon is the lobby lounge, serving drinks and light bites
- Bar Piscine is the poolside restaurant and bar, serving drinks and snacks throughout the day
- Champagne & Caviar is the adults-only terrace bar, serving (you guessed it) caviar, champagne, and other drinks and snacks
- Cigar Lounge is the onboard smoking lounge, serving spirits and more
- Marina Bar is the pop-up bar that’s open on marina days, or when there’s a party down there
Before I get into more detail, let me say that I found the food onboard to be a mixed bag. Among the four primary dining venues, I thought Sedna was great, Miuna and Horizon Lounge were good, and Terrasse was just okay (with some things being pretty good, and some things being pretty bad).
On the plus side, given that Four Seasons Yachts charges for food and drinks (aside from breakfast), I was at least pleased that prices weren’t crazy, especially since there are no additional taxes or service charges (though there is always a line to leave a tip).
I’ll cover what I’d consider to be the six core venues in more detail below, but first let me just briefly talk about five of the “easier” ones.
Salon is located on deck five and is sort of the heart of the ship, as it’s the lobby lounge. When you’re walking between the various parts of the ship, you’ll frequently pass through here, so it gets a lot of foot traffic. We enjoyed this primarily for the live music, which was excellent, so it was a great place to grab a pre-dinner drink.


Next, Bar Piscine is the pool bar on deck five, so it serves drinks and meals throughout the day. We never ate here, since Terrasse is located next door, and is a bit more full service.

Next, Champagne & Caviar is on deck six, and it’s located outside of Sedna, the fine dining restaurant. I found this setup to be sort of underwhelming. I thought this was a proper venue, while it’s really just what looks like some deck seating, and it doesn’t have any shade. You’d think they’d make the venue serving caviar a bit “fancier.” I didn’t ever see anyone actually enjoying this.


If you’re curious, below is part of the Champagne & Caviar menu.


Cigar Lounge is located on deck six, next to Bar O, and I wouldn’t really consider it to be a fully distinct venue. It’s really just a smoking lounge, and drinks are served from the adjacent Bar O. For smokers, it’s no doubt an elegant and appreciated space.


On marina days, there’s then Marina Bar on deck three, which is a convenient place to get a drink if enjoying those amenities. However, that’s typically just one day per voyage, so it’s hardly the most used space onboard.

With the above out of the way, let’s go over the details of the core venues, as I see it.
Four Seasons Yachts Terrasse Restaurant
Terrasse Restaurant is the primary all-day dining venue onboard, and it’s located on deck five, right by the pool. This serves breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The restaurant has both indoor and outdoor seating, and it only got anywhere close to busy over breakfast hours.


Breakfast was served every morning starting at 7AM, and consisted of a buffet, with the ability to also order items from a menu. As a reminder, breakfast is the only meal onboard that’s included for everyone.
Breakfast was fine, but honestly, I found it to be a little bit boring, and I wish there had been more variety over the course of seven days. A few days in we were just bored by what was on offer, because neither the buffet nor the a la carte selection was terribly inventive.
The buffet included cold cuts, cheese, fruit, yogurt, salads, pastries, croissants, etc. There was also a mimosa and bloody mary station.





You can find the Four Seasons Yachts breakfast menu and drink list below.






The drinks were reasonably good, though I typically stuck to French press coffee here, and then got my cappuccinos and lattes from Pistachio, the coffee shop, where they have barista coffee.

In terms of a la carte dishes, over the course of our voyage we ordered the avocado toast, smoked salmon, shakshuka, and lemon blueberry crepes.




For lunch and dinner, Terrasse is described as serving “coastal Mediterranean cuisine.” I’ve gotta say, I found the restaurant to be exceedingly mediocre, and I really think they need to work on this. It’s the main restaurant onboard where you can grab lunch, and you can find the lunch menu below.




One day we came here for lunch, and I ordered the pizza bufala. The crust was so hard that I couldn’t even cut into it with a knife. I am not at all a pizza snob (I even like frozen supermarket pizza!), and I couldn’t tell you the last time I sent a dish back anywhere, but I just couldn’t eat this. So they made the pizza again… and the crust was equally hard. Unbelievable.

Ford had the chicken and red rice bowl, which he also didn’t particularly enjoy, as he said the chicken was super chewy. Not great.

Another day we had the chirashi bowl, with tuna and salmon, and that was actually decent.

We also had dinner here one evening, and you can find the Terrasse Restaurant dinner menu below.







We had the hamachi crudo and beef carpaccio to start, and both had the grilled branzino as mains. The branzino was quite good, while the starters were just okay.



Terrasse was definitely my least favorite venue onboard, so I definitely wouldn’t seek this out.
Four Seasons Yachts Sedna Restaurant
In contrast to Terrasse, we both very much enjoyed Sedna, which is the fine dining restaurant on deck six, open nightly for dinner. It’s described as being “rooted in French techniques, presenting creative interpretations of the classics.” The restaurant is elegant, with both indoor and outdoor seating,


We had dinner here two evenings, and we enjoyed both meals immensely. This restaurant definitely has high prices, but then again, without taxes and high automatic gratuities, it takes the sting out of it a bit. You can find the Sedna dinner menu below below.




The meal started with an amuse bouche, and some sinfully delicious bread.


For starters, I had the aubergine, while Ford had the foie gras terrine.


Then for mains, I had the dover sole, while Ford had the Japanese beef fillet.


We also split the chocolate mille-feuille.

The entire meal was excellent, and honestly, it was the restaurant onboard that felt most like it was to the standards of what you’d expect on land, rather than on a ship.
Four Seasons Yachts Miuna Restaurant
Miuna is Four Seasons Yachts’ omakase restaurant, located on deck five, and it’s open for dinner, with two seatings. It has just 16 seats, with eight being at the counter, plus two tables that can each accommodate up to four people.

You can find the menu for our evening below — the cost was $175 per person.

You can find a selection of the dishes below.








I’d say the experience was pretty good, factoring in the obvious challenges (you’re on a ship, stuff isn’t being flown in daily, etc.).
I think this is probably one of those things that will divide the Four Seasons Yachts guest profile — some people are of course food snobs who have been to Japan a dozen times (and likely wouldn’t be delighted by this), while some other people we met onboard were shocked to hear that we’d eat raw fish, so this was way too adventurous for them.
Four Seasons Yachts Horizon Lounge
Horizon Lounge is located on deck 11, so it’s the highest level accessible by passengers. This adults-only venue serves light Levantine fare, as it’s described.
The space has high top seating, two tables (each with two chairs) in the shade, and then I guess you can also be served in the area intended more for lounging, down a set of stairs. I do think they could increase the seating capacity of this outlet.



Horizon Lounge is open in the afternoons and evenings, and has a small menu, which you can find below.


While the prices were reasonable, I found the portions to be kind of sad. For example, the trio mezze sampler was served in insanely tiny cups. I know it’s a “sampler,” but still, I think they should up the portions (and prices, if needed).

We did enjoy the crispy cabbage salad and crispy cauliflower, while the chicken souvlaki was decent as well.



Four Seasons Yachts Pistachio Cafe
Pistachio Cafe is located on deck five, and is the ship’s coffee shop. It typically opens at 6:30AM, 30 minutes before the breakfast restaurant, so it’s a great place to grab that first cup of coffee.


It has everything from barista coffee, to delicious pastries and croissants, to grab & go sandwiches and yogurt parfaits. It’s the only place on the ship you’ll get barista coffee, so if you’re like me and love good coffee, I’d recommend coming here for your caffeine fix.




The concept here is interesting — until 11AM, everything is complimentary, so you can enjoy as much coffee, sweet treats, or even grab & go items, as you’d like. Meanwhile starting at 11AM it turns into a paid venue, so everything has a cost.
I guess this fits into the concept of breakfast being included but nothing else, but I do find that to be a bit of an odd transition.
Four Seasons Yachts Bar O
Bar O is Four Seasons Yachts’ primary bar venue, and the concept is that it’s supposed to be an ode to the cocktail culture of the 1960s and 1970s. The bar is gorgeous, the service was friendly, and the drinks were excellent.
However, it sort of lacked a vibe, as there was almost never anyone actually in it. That’s one of the issues with smaller ships like this, when you have people spread out across so many venues.


Either way, we came here a couple of times, and enjoyed the drinks and service.

Four Seasons Yachts service
When it comes to the Four Seasons Yachts experience, here’s what disappointed me most. When I think of the Four Seasons brand, consistently excellent service is the first thing that comes to mind. Unfortunately that’s also what was most missing from this cruise. It’s the same feedback I had heard from so many others on our voyage, and also from others who had taken a Four Seasons cruise before.
Here’s the thing — the staff onboard are all truly lovely. Like, they’re all doing their best, they all couldn’t be nicer, and they’re all eager to please and take care of passengers. Special shoutout to Marco, who put a smile on just about everyone’s face with his great attitude.
The issue isn’t friendliness or work ethic. Instead, it seems like there are a lot of growing pains, which I guess isn’t too uncommon for an all-new concept.
I don’t want to beat a dead horse, since I talked about this when I shared my initial experience. The issues were all so minor individually, but just piled up. Someone else’s luggage in our room when we boarded. Them never getting my coffee order right in the cafe. Constant mistakes in the restaurant with bringing out the wrong dishes. Lack of attention to detail with cutlery. Undisclosed service charges. The list goes on and on. And it wasn’t just us — it was feedback echoed by a vast majority of people we spoke with.
I imagine over time these will be resolved, but given the price point, plus what Four Seasons is known for as a brand, this really shouldn’t happen. Here’s what I think is going on:
- Four Seasons Yachts was delayed with its launch, so I imagine they had limited time to focus on service training; obviously once you start cruising, it’s very hard to “catch up” and fix things, since you’re always just trying to get through each day
- While a 1:1 staff ratio sounds great, I think they need more restaurant staff, since that’s where basically all the issues were; I’m not sure if the ship just doesn’t have large crew quarters, or what’s going on
- Honestly, what surprised me most was the lack of basic quality control; I’m talking things like the spa menu not listing a service charge, the in-room tablet not actually working for room service orders, etc., as these are all things that should’ve been figured out before launch
- I think there’s also an issue with the consistency of processes; for example, some restaurant servers tried to memorize orders, some jotted them down on a notepad, and some used the tablet, and that had a big impact on how accurately things were served
I trust this will all be resolved over time, but it’s just disappointing that the brand couldn’t figure it out even months after launch, as we still sort of felt like guinea pigs in terms of service.
Four Seasons Yachts guest profile
I know people are often curious about the guest profile on these uber-luxury cruise lines, so I always do what I can to share my observations. I have to say, the crowd onboard was truly all over the place. There was everything from retired couples, to families with young kids.
I’d say a majority of the guests were Americans, but there were also plenty of other nationalities, ranging from Brits, to Italians, to Russians, to Singaporeans, and many more.
Perhaps the most consistent theme among guests is that almost everyone had never been on a cruise before. It’s funny how that goes. When you start talking to people on the ship, everyone almost immediately becomes defensive with the “we’re not usually cruisers” refrain, which I find to be a bit funny.
The motives people had for taking the cruise were also all over the place. Some people were extremely well traveled, and were just Four Seasons fans, and curious what the cruising concept was like. Others had never really visited Europe before, so this was their way of easing into that.
All-in-all, I found most people onboard to be super friendly and social, which seems to be a theme when cruising.
Bottom line
I’m happy I had the chance to take a Four Seasons cruise, with the new Four Seasons Yachts venture. I must say, the ship is absolutely stunning, and the amount of space allocated to each guest is pretty unparalleled. The suites were beautiful, the facilities were great, and the staff were really friendly.
However, as I see it, this product isn’t yet as perfect as it should be, given the price point, along with the lack of inclusions. The food was a mixed bag, and there were so many little service issues that just shouldn’t happen at this price point, especially when the brand is promoting “legendary service.”
What’s your take on the Four Seasons Yachts experience?
Why is it that at the Horizon Lounge, the cold mezze sampler platter (which Ben described as having 3 small bowls of mezze) costs $22, when you could buy 3 individual cold mezze for no more than $21 (assuming you got three different selections, and not all of the the most expensive one)?
As a person happily married to a Finn, I have long been trained in the Finnish love of sauna. In fact, we have a sauna in our home in Malta. (Takes some getting used to getting into a sauna when it 40C outside, and 60C in the sauna.
In your picture of the sauna Ben, I note the absence of the pile of heated stones, for which you can throw on some water from a wooden bucket to generate the steam that is part of the word sauna. Where was it, Ben?
For the average Finn, 60C is probably closer to their office aircon setting than it is to their sauna temperature setting :)
Those prices are steep. But I’ve paid that for a 7-day voyage on QM2 … and I got a 2000 sf duplex suite.
Yet I’ll never book with FS if they continue charging for meals and drinks. That’s outrageous. And I consider the prices on the menus to be unforgivable, considering an entry level room might be $35K.
Of all the trip experiences I'm not interested in, this is the top of the list of Hell No. I can't imagine ever justifying spending that kind of money for that kind of experience.
It is surprising to me that there is enough of a market for this to ever fill the ship. Do these passengers know that food is generally included on cruises? And the food offered seems over priced with a limited...
Of all the trip experiences I'm not interested in, this is the top of the list of Hell No. I can't imagine ever justifying spending that kind of money for that kind of experience.
It is surprising to me that there is enough of a market for this to ever fill the ship. Do these passengers know that food is generally included on cruises? And the food offered seems over priced with a limited selection.
Thanks for conducting this scientific experiment, Ben. But what a waste of your time and money.
You are assuming that there really is a market for this type of cruise!
Nope; no interest. Cost to value not there. In my world, Viking and similar meet my "sort of" high end requirements without breaking the bank. Great review, Ben, and thanks for doing the dirty work for the rest of us.
It's a hard pass for me. I just returned from 11 days on Silversea - I cannot imagine a better experience. Service was truly above and beyond, food was very good and everything except shore trips were included.
I have been on Seaborn and Silversea , and find them to provide good value.
My last cruise was truly exceptional.
I wish Ben would venture out of the ultra luxury catergory and try a cruise on one of the premium cruise lines. He might be suprised.
Offensive. That's the only word I can come up with. I'm speechless.
I read most of it but honestly I couldn't finish bc not only am I not the target customer for this but I've been on dozens of cruises for under $7k/WK and I cannot believe this is a real product people are dumb enough (sorry Lucky I know you did it for science and we love ya for it, but tell me...
Offensive. That's the only word I can come up with. I'm speechless.
I read most of it but honestly I couldn't finish bc not only am I not the target customer for this but I've been on dozens of cruises for under $7k/WK and I cannot believe this is a real product people are dumb enough (sorry Lucky I know you did it for science and we love ya for it, but tell me you didn't cry a little paying that bill)
Please someone with liquid net worth of wealth that is the supposed target for this. ....You got $35k, can you justify? And then paying for food. Like why? It's offensive. Okay you want water and feeling like a free pirate sailing the high seas. PEOPLE CHARTER YACHTS!!!
When I said I stopped reading it was at the cocktail menu with like an $80 vodka cocktail. Does vodka even taste like ... Anything? What's $80 vodka drink taste like? I hope I never find out.
This is so... ridiculous...lame.
Someone please explain how if you're even a billionaire, is this how you spend $35k or is it literally just like. "F-it I can never spend it all so let's just do the dumbest sh$# ever!"
OFFENSIVE
Someone could give me a million bucks today and I would never pay those prices with free money. Can't justify the expense.
The basic rooms -small like the Ritz ships at 448++ sf cost a lot at basic $11,000 per person... For that price I would want more space and dinner included! Nice overview though!
I gotta say... I'm surprised that you consider the food prices reasonable, especially in light of the payment you already made. Sure, they aren't high end NYC/Paris/Tokyo prices, but would it be fair to say that, on land, you'd expect better quality/accuracy from a standard restaurant charging those prices? I think I would (see: pizza, wrong coffee, etc)
That you'd already paid a price which, on similar cruises, includes all food, should make the...
I gotta say... I'm surprised that you consider the food prices reasonable, especially in light of the payment you already made. Sure, they aren't high end NYC/Paris/Tokyo prices, but would it be fair to say that, on land, you'd expect better quality/accuracy from a standard restaurant charging those prices? I think I would (see: pizza, wrong coffee, etc)
That you'd already paid a price which, on similar cruises, includes all food, should make the low quality to price ratio (value) absolutely unacceptable, no?
I have to assume your base rate already fully cleared FS's cost of food, activities, etc and thus all onboard expenditures are pure profit... which makes the low food quality/accuracy even more abhorrent. After thinking through it, are those prices really *reasonable*?
@ Mattt -- I'm not saying the prices are cheap, but they were just less than I was expecting. Admittedly given how much Four Seasons Yachts is charging for the voyage, I assumed they'd try to charge more, figuring guests weren't that price sensitive. And yeah, the food quality was a real issue, especially given that they're charging for food, unlike other cruise lines. They need to do better.
As far as "clearing" costs based...
@ Mattt -- I'm not saying the prices are cheap, but they were just less than I was expecting. Admittedly given how much Four Seasons Yachts is charging for the voyage, I assumed they'd try to charge more, figuring guests weren't that price sensitive. And yeah, the food quality was a real issue, especially given that they're charging for food, unlike other cruise lines. They need to do better.
As far as "clearing" costs based on the base rate, I think that's harder to quantify. For the time being, Four Seasons Yachts seems to have very high occupancy, but I suspect that's also due to the delay in launch (so lots of people rebooked), plus it being peak season.
As we know, Ritz-Carlton Yacht Collection is struggling horribly with occupancy, so I don't assume that this venture is guaranteed to be successful, or anything.
I kind of get what Ben meant when he said the food costs were "reasonable." I'm not a cruise person, but for me the closest non-cruise comparison would be a luxury resort in a relatively isolated destination like the Maldives where there are few, if any, options for food not at your resort. The prices on the FS menus seemed lower overall than prices at those kinds of resorts and even lower than you would...
I kind of get what Ben meant when he said the food costs were "reasonable." I'm not a cruise person, but for me the closest non-cruise comparison would be a luxury resort in a relatively isolated destination like the Maldives where there are few, if any, options for food not at your resort. The prices on the FS menus seemed lower overall than prices at those kinds of resorts and even lower than you would find at a FS type hotel in a city (where they have more competition). They are by no means cheap but they are comparatively more reasonable when you consider the captive audience situation.
I’ll be surprised if the a la carte pricing on meals survives. I can’t imagine they can fill the ship year round with “Four Seasons fanboys who’ve never cruised before.” They’re going to need to attract the same customers as Seabourn and Silverseas, and those customers aren’t going to accept 2x the daily rate and a la carte pricing on top.
@ ExWesternAirlines -- I think that's the million dollar question for the overall expansion we've seen in the cruise industry among hotel brands. They're all targeted at non-cruisers, but how much appetite is there for that, both in the short and long term? We can see the interest from a novelty perspective, but getting people to rebook is probably a different story.
I guess to look at it differently, though, do you think the typical...
@ ExWesternAirlines -- I think that's the million dollar question for the overall expansion we've seen in the cruise industry among hotel brands. They're all targeted at non-cruisers, but how much appetite is there for that, both in the short and long term? We can see the interest from a novelty perspective, but getting people to rebook is probably a different story.
I guess to look at it differently, though, do you think the typical Seabourn or Silverseas customer would actually cruise on Four Seasons Yachts, though? I feel like those cruise lines have a pretty loyal customer base, and getting people to pay significantly more, even if meals and drinks are included, seems like a stretch.
The ship itself looks lovely and I understand that I am not the target clientele. That being said…$35,000 and being nickel and dimed for food, drink, 18% service charge, etc. seems utterly ridiculous!
I agree.
Four Seasons' hotels are excellent but I do not see the value proposition on their cruises.
So if you are vegetarian, you’re expected to eat cauliflower every night? Hard pass.
How about comparing the cost of this to the cost of an equivalent stay at a Four Seasons on land? E.g. Mykonos. With drivers for sightseeing and taxis to restaurants and back, beach club fees etc.
Is the premium for sleeping afloat 30%, 50%, 100%?
Guest rooms are smaller on board, and food ingredients less fresh.
What extra does one get for the premium?
Possibly the biggest element is the interaction between guests that you mention at the end here?
35k before most meals, drinks, and excursions? What is this, Trek Trendy?
Aesthetically, this ship is the closest thing to a superyacht, compared to the Ritz Carlton ships, which simply look like (beautiful) cruise ships. The pool on deck 11, which you didn't particularly like, is truly reminiscent of those on superyachts—it's a shame there's no jacuzzi. The main pool, truly stunning, is reminiscent of those on Italian ocean liners from the golden age (Andrea Doria, Rex, etc.). I don't particularly like the marina's aesthetics, however. It...
Aesthetically, this ship is the closest thing to a superyacht, compared to the Ritz Carlton ships, which simply look like (beautiful) cruise ships. The pool on deck 11, which you didn't particularly like, is truly reminiscent of those on superyachts—it's a shame there's no jacuzzi. The main pool, truly stunning, is reminiscent of those on Italian ocean liners from the golden age (Andrea Doria, Rex, etc.). I don't particularly like the marina's aesthetics, however. It reminds me of a military ship's hangar, and its location on the ship's imposing flank doesn't help. For the price, I'd probably prefer to join six or eight friends and charter a 30- or 40-meter yacht.
Did someone say Andrea Doria? Insurance investigators. Nah, won't happen again.
This definitely makes me wonder if there is some gamification to booking high end crusies/resort stays right around their start/open date. Definitely generous on FS's part to give a 30% discount and a 2k credit because it was their fault they didn't meet their operation date. Obviously it's a high price to book and pay over 20k but still. I have to think that most people on these level of cruises are flying business with...
This definitely makes me wonder if there is some gamification to booking high end crusies/resort stays right around their start/open date. Definitely generous on FS's part to give a 30% discount and a 2k credit because it was their fault they didn't meet their operation date. Obviously it's a high price to book and pay over 20k but still. I have to think that most people on these level of cruises are flying business with tickets that are flexible over a month before departure with minimal financial impact on changing dates.
Makes me wonder
@ Alonzo -- I think this is true for both hotels and cruises, there's a huge risk to them not opening or launching on time. I remember when Ritz-Carlton Yacht Collection was delayed, they were also quite generous with rebooking at a discount.
The thing to keep in mind with cruises is that you typically have to make a deposit and pay months in advance, so it's much riskier than booking a flexible hotel stay....
@ Alonzo -- I think this is true for both hotels and cruises, there's a huge risk to them not opening or launching on time. I remember when Ritz-Carlton Yacht Collection was delayed, they were also quite generous with rebooking at a discount.
The thing to keep in mind with cruises is that you typically have to make a deposit and pay months in advance, so it's much riskier than booking a flexible hotel stay. In fairness, that's also why cruise lines are typically more generous than hotels when they are delayed.
I was also affected by the early cancellations. Without the 30% discount and $2k credit, I am not sure I would have been motivated enough to rebook.
Thanks for the great review! I won’t be going on FS Yachts anytime soon, but really appreciate getting your take. I have sailed on many cruise lines, the most upscale one being Silversea, a luxury line with ships designed for about 600 pax. Everything was included, unlimited caviar, French champagne, Maine lobster, etc., and service was impeccable. Suite was spacious with living/dining area, bathtub and separate walk-in shower, dressing room, etc. I forget exactly what...
Thanks for the great review! I won’t be going on FS Yachts anytime soon, but really appreciate getting your take. I have sailed on many cruise lines, the most upscale one being Silversea, a luxury line with ships designed for about 600 pax. Everything was included, unlimited caviar, French champagne, Maine lobster, etc., and service was impeccable. Suite was spacious with living/dining area, bathtub and separate walk-in shower, dressing room, etc. I forget exactly what we paid, but it was close to 1/10 the cost of FS. Was it as “exclusive” as FS? Absolutely not. But was it an outstanding experience and value for someone who wants top flight service, food and spirits? Absolutely yes. I have to believe FS (and Ritz Carlton) are attracting a clientele that simply doesn’t know or care what alternatives exist in the cruising world and is willing to pay whatever price FS demands for the cachet of sailing with that brand. Ben, I wish you would check out some other luxury cruise lines, or even ship-within-a-ship products like MSC Yacht Club, Celebrity’s Retreat, etc. and give us your take as to how they compare in terms of service and value.
Ben - Please please please take another luxury cruise (or two) from a non-hotel-affiliated cruise line for comparison. And/or charter a sailboat for a week for the same (or less) than you paid for this cruise.
I get that your newer content here likely needs to be monetized via Ford's business, but this cruise and review seemed like a huge miss.
The whole premise of the marketing and pricing here depends on the...
Ben - Please please please take another luxury cruise (or two) from a non-hotel-affiliated cruise line for comparison. And/or charter a sailboat for a week for the same (or less) than you paid for this cruise.
I get that your newer content here likely needs to be monetized via Ford's business, but this cruise and review seemed like a huge miss.
The whole premise of the marketing and pricing here depends on the ignorance of customers around the enormous cruise options available at every price point.
And Ben - you admittedly haven't cruised in two decades, but your review is filled with assumptions based on your cruise expertise - "that’s pretty standard for cruise ships", "compared to your typical cruise ship" etc. Maybe you have done extensive research on the cruise industry, but why not just take a cruise from another luxury cruise line (that is not a hotel-affiliated start-up)?
It baffles me how you can both say "All-in-all, I think this is a solid product for those who are fans of the Four Seasons brand" but also "When I think of the Four Seasons brand, consistently excellent service is the first thing that comes to mind. Unfortunately that’s also what was most missing from this cruise. It’s the same feedback I had heard from so many others on our voyage, and also from others who had taken a Four Seasons cruise before."
So you're saying that people who would like this cruise are people are like Four Seasons, but also the main selling point of Four Seasons is missing here?
And if you are someone who is considering a ship-based vacation, does it make more sense to consider various ship-based vacation options or just go with the one branded for the hotel I like?
This was just all really baffling to me.
@ LP -- The short answer is that I absolutely plan to take some cruises with non-hotel affiliated cruise lines. As you can imagine (especially with a family), I can't go on one cruise per month, but I'm planning at least three more over the next year, so stay tuned.
Regarding the assumptions that I make in the review, I don't think you have to be a super frequent cruiser to make those assumptions. Do...
@ LP -- The short answer is that I absolutely plan to take some cruises with non-hotel affiliated cruise lines. As you can imagine (especially with a family), I can't go on one cruise per month, but I'm planning at least three more over the next year, so stay tuned.
Regarding the assumptions that I make in the review, I don't think you have to be a super frequent cruiser to make those assumptions. Do you disagree that the bathroom looks particularly nice on the Four Seasons Yachts ship, or that spa treatments on ships typically aren't inexpensive? I believe those are the points you were referencing?
I didn't board the Four Seasons Yachts experience expecting it would be the world's best value cruise. Instead, my thought process was more along the lines of "here's what a hotel brand is promising, let's see what it's really like." And then over time I can have different experiences, and see how they compare.
Great news on 3 more over the next year - sounds like a great opportunity for comparison.
You're probably right that the Four Seasons Yachts bathrooms are particularly nice for a cruise ship - but neither you nor I have been on other ships costing $21k for a week to compare, right? That's my point. And yes, spa treatments are expensive anywhere you have a captive audience. But again, some luxury cruise lines might include...
Great news on 3 more over the next year - sounds like a great opportunity for comparison.
You're probably right that the Four Seasons Yachts bathrooms are particularly nice for a cruise ship - but neither you nor I have been on other ships costing $21k for a week to compare, right? That's my point. And yes, spa treatments are expensive anywhere you have a captive audience. But again, some luxury cruise lines might include spa treatments, at least if you are paying $21k for your room for the week, so I look forward to your upcoming cruises to compare!
To illustrate my overall concern that Four Seasons Yachts Cruises relies on passengers’ ignorance of other ship-based vacations:
Let’s say I love driving a Lexus, primarily because I love reliability and not having to worry about them, but I appreciate the luxury too. “We’re not usually private flyers”, but Lexus starts building private jets costing $20 million, and I’m open to trying it and I take a flight. I like the luxury of my first experience, but the reliability factor turns out poorly – I had to wait several hours for a part to be fixed, etc. And all the other Lexus jet customers I talk to share a similar experience of poor reliability.
Since I like the idea of flying private, wouldn’t it be wise to explore other jet makers, especially since the main reason I like Lexus the brand – reliability – wasn’t demonstrated on my first experience (and the consistent experience of others)? Shouldn’t I explore other private jets in the $20 million range plus fractional ownership, leasing, jet cards, chartering, etc at lower price-points? Even though “I don’t usually fly private”, if I am deciding that I would like to explore flying private, shouldn’t I consider all “flying private” options?
From the outside, it seems that Lexus jets (in my made-up example) is relying on customers not comparing their private-flying product with existing private-flying products (which have been in business decades longer than Lexus). Lexus jets might build a decent business among the "I don't usually fly private" customers who are super brand-loyal, but the customers are doing themselves a disservice by only comparing their Lexus jet experience to their Lexus car experience or their assumptions about other private jet experiences.
Again, I’m stoked to read your future cruise reviews. I’ll put in one more plug for chartering a sailboat – surely a different experience than a FS or larger ship, but a great, family-friendly way to explore the Med. And surely $21k can get you a pretty luxurious experience, even if it’s a different level of luxury.
Thanks!
@LP you are so right about how many customer approach brands. Good for the rest of us?
Hey Ben,
The Hurtigruten Coastal Express on the entire Norwegian coastline, including fjiords is a fantastic experience for families. And you can come face to face with reindeer as we did. P.S. no tipping expected.
Are those price lists in USD or EUR?
@ FMBWI -- Prices are all in USD. :-)
As much as this is a great review and a portal into the world of luxury cruising....i think given the changes to this site and the "need" to monetize the website more...saying you can burn tens of thousands of dollars on a single cruise plus other costs doesnt land with the audience mostly.
You say you need a $ but have no issues going out to spend upwards of 50k on a luxury cruise....
As much as this is a great review and a portal into the world of luxury cruising....i think given the changes to this site and the "need" to monetize the website more...saying you can burn tens of thousands of dollars on a single cruise plus other costs doesnt land with the audience mostly.
You say you need a $ but have no issues going out to spend upwards of 50k on a luxury cruise. Unless there are other financial relationships that are dropping the cost.
THis is where i think the relevancy of the content is important.
@ isaacC -- I hear you and see where you're coming from. Let me clarify a few points:
-- First, I didn't drop upwards of $50K on a cruise, but instead, the cost was closer to $20K, so let's at least try to keep the numbers accurate
-- Ultimately this blog is a business, and we need to keep up with the times when it comes to monetization; nowhere did I specifically say...
@ isaacC -- I hear you and see where you're coming from. Let me clarify a few points:
-- First, I didn't drop upwards of $50K on a cruise, but instead, the cost was closer to $20K, so let's at least try to keep the numbers accurate
-- Ultimately this blog is a business, and we need to keep up with the times when it comes to monetization; nowhere did I specifically say we "need" money, or anything along those lines, but every business has to evolve
-- I didn't actually pay for the cruise, but instead, Ford did, through his business
-- Ultimately this is a business investment for Ford, as his cruising volume has picked up massively in recent times; in the interest of transparency, the business concept here is simple -- I review the cruises, and the hope is that others book cruises through him, and that helps recoup the investment
There's really not much more to it. Ford saw a huge increase in Ritz-Carlton Yacht Collection bookings after my review of the experience, and I view it as a win-win. Even if someone wouldn't necessarily pay for this experience, I think lots of people are curious to see what it's like, and I think I review the experience in a level of depth you'll find nowhere else.
I hope you can appreciate how honestly I try to approach this, though, in sharing my actual experience. If this were all just about making as much money as possible, and if I didn't care about being honest, I would've raved about the experience, because that would've definitely maximized the number of bookings.
Hope that makes sense... :-)
It totally makes sense to me. And while I will most likely never book ultra high-end hotels or cruise lines like this, if I was in a position to do so, I would definitely be more inclined to trust and book through travel agents who spent their own money to try something and are then honest about how much value they feel they really got for the price. I would likewise be inclined to refer...
It totally makes sense to me. And while I will most likely never book ultra high-end hotels or cruise lines like this, if I was in a position to do so, I would definitely be more inclined to trust and book through travel agents who spent their own money to try something and are then honest about how much value they feel they really got for the price. I would likewise be inclined to refer others to the same travel agents, which is good for their long-term business viability!
@ dx -- Well thank you, that's the idea! :-) Ultimately I value honest reviews above all else. I don't just want to rave about everything, and then have people be disappointed, just to make a quick buck.
This is an awesome review - you are the best in the business, Ben! Now you have to try Orient Express and then Aman :) I've stayed at around 20 Four Seasons properties and am also "not a cruiser." I'd be willing to give this a try when they iron out the service kinks if the ports of call are interesting places I haven't been to.
@ Motion to Dismiss -- Thank you! "Now you have to try Orient Express and then Aman." I'll just say... stay tuned!
Thanks for this review. Very much enjoyed reading it. The shop looks beautiful. Spacious. Excellent design. That said, charging for everything beyond breakfast at this price point is awful. Really adds to friction in the experience. Just make it all inclusive and increase the prices imo. Really just feels nickel and dime-y and inappropriate at this price point.
Separately, there's nothing "sinful" or shameful about enjoying good food. Nothing is "sinfully" delicious. No need...
Thanks for this review. Very much enjoyed reading it. The shop looks beautiful. Spacious. Excellent design. That said, charging for everything beyond breakfast at this price point is awful. Really adds to friction in the experience. Just make it all inclusive and increase the prices imo. Really just feels nickel and dime-y and inappropriate at this price point.
Separately, there's nothing "sinful" or shameful about enjoying good food. Nothing is "sinfully" delicious. No need to feel bad about enjoying good food, and it's somewhat irritating that you always equate enjoyment of something good to sin. It's not.
Thanks for the great review. Keep up the good work.
@ Jason -- Thanks! Yeah, I have to say, I really wish they'd just increase the prices a bit and make it all-inclusive, because it would eliminate the friction. Our actual onboard spending wasn't that high, and was basically nothing after the $2,600 in credits. So you'd think increasing the price a bit but including things would leave many people with a better impression.
Just psychologically, if you're paying directly for something, you also have...
@ Jason -- Thanks! Yeah, I have to say, I really wish they'd just increase the prices a bit and make it all-inclusive, because it would eliminate the friction. Our actual onboard spending wasn't that high, and was basically nothing after the $2,600 in credits. So you'd think increasing the price a bit but including things would leave many people with a better impression.
Just psychologically, if you're paying directly for something, you also have higher expectations of the quality, and the food quality just didn't impress, on balance.
The thing about luxury and ultra luxury cruising, the food. The food needs to be amazing and memorable. This looks like something Carnival would be embarrassed to serve their guests.
Admittedly true, the food prices are not outrageous. But for 26 USD you get served two pizzas that are awful, whereas on Virgin (which is a premium line rather than luxury) you get honestly great pizzas included in the fare.
I have to say thank...
The thing about luxury and ultra luxury cruising, the food. The food needs to be amazing and memorable. This looks like something Carnival would be embarrassed to serve their guests.
Admittedly true, the food prices are not outrageous. But for 26 USD you get served two pizzas that are awful, whereas on Virgin (which is a premium line rather than luxury) you get honestly great pizzas included in the fare.
I have to say thank you for the detailed review, it shows that Four Seasons cruises are only great in name. And that is really worth knowing.
I heard a few themes from several reviews, including yours, as though reviewers are forcing themselves to say something to justify the cost of the cruise. But when each and every one includes "they consistently got my order wrong" (at a cafe!), in my opinion, that literally has to exclude them "trying their best." It's diametrically opposed and the two are completely incompatible!
Constant mistakes in the restaurant bringing the wrong dishes does not...
I heard a few themes from several reviews, including yours, as though reviewers are forcing themselves to say something to justify the cost of the cruise. But when each and every one includes "they consistently got my order wrong" (at a cafe!), in my opinion, that literally has to exclude them "trying their best." It's diametrically opposed and the two are completely incompatible!
Constant mistakes in the restaurant bringing the wrong dishes does not overlap - at all - with "eager to please and take care of passengers." This is the most basic, fundamental benchmark of service.
You got a pizza with a rock hard crust - twice?? How can they be "trying their best" when this type of issue has been ongoing since the launch of the ship?
@ Chris -- As I explained, I found service to be a huge issue. I think two things can both be true. The staff members can all be hardworking and want to do their best, while also not having the proper training, systems, and staffing levels in place, to be able to deliver on what's being promised. That's how I'd summarize the service situation.
Just regarding the constantly wrong cafe order - what lack of training, systems, or staffing level prevents someone who is trying their hardest from getting your coffee order correct? Were they overwhelmed with customers and without a notepad/ipad to write it down? It sounds like most of the venues were mostly empty during the day.
You're still my fave blogger (by far) :) I just would be livid if this were to happen at...
Just regarding the constantly wrong cafe order - what lack of training, systems, or staffing level prevents someone who is trying their hardest from getting your coffee order correct? Were they overwhelmed with customers and without a notepad/ipad to write it down? It sounds like most of the venues were mostly empty during the day.
You're still my fave blogger (by far) :) I just would be livid if this were to happen at my local corner coffee shop (which it doesn't), much less a cruise costing thousands per day. If they constantly got my order wrong, I would be hard-pressed to say they're trying their best.
@ Chris -- You're totally right, the coffee order thing was sort of infuriating. Ford and I both commented that it felt like the staff just weren't very good at actually listening carefully to what guests were saying, I think because they were already mentally distracted by the other tasks they were doing. A lot of it was a mystery to me...
Explora has some of the same challenges.
To expand, on Explora staff was distracted by their own mobile phones that did not appear to be issued by the company for service needs. In contrast on Celebrity some crew have ship phones usually used to make customer service related things happen. No crew have personal phones in use during their working hours with guests from what we've observed. Suspect the Four Seasons crew was just bored.
@ Cruizer -- Wait, Explora staff were playing around on their own phones? That's kind of wild. I can definitely say that wasn't the case on Four Seasons Yachts, I saw no one with their own phone.
Yes. Agreed. Wild.
I have only done one sailing with Explora (shortly after its debut) and found the service to be phenomenal in all venues at all times. About to go on EIII next month and eager to see how the line is doing.
Ben, I have to be honest with you: as much as this is a great review, this trend of you reviewing non-points hotels and cruises that cost $1,500+ a night is giving me the ick.
I've always loved this blog because it primarily focuses on what's possible with points. Or, if you pay for business class, it's at a reasonable rate. But lately you've been reviewing a lot of properties and cruises that many (most?)...
Ben, I have to be honest with you: as much as this is a great review, this trend of you reviewing non-points hotels and cruises that cost $1,500+ a night is giving me the ick.
I've always loved this blog because it primarily focuses on what's possible with points. Or, if you pay for business class, it's at a reasonable rate. But lately you've been reviewing a lot of properties and cruises that many (most?) of your readers will never be able to afford, and can't even aspire to book because they're unavailable with loyalty points.
I've been a loyal reader and I will remain so, but to be honest, all of these reviews of unaffordable places turns my stomach a little. Maybe I'm alone in that, and that's fine. I just wanted to share my reaction.
@ FMBWI -- I appreciate you reading, and your constructive feedback. What you're saying is totally fair. I'll just make a couple of points...
First, I've reviewed a total of two cruises, and the first was Ritz-Carlton Yacht Collection, which does have a points angle. I was then curious to see how the Four Seasons Yachts experience compared, given that this is intended to compete with that. I totally get that these are really expensive...
@ FMBWI -- I appreciate you reading, and your constructive feedback. What you're saying is totally fair. I'll just make a couple of points...
First, I've reviewed a total of two cruises, and the first was Ritz-Carlton Yacht Collection, which does have a points angle. I was then curious to see how the Four Seasons Yachts experience compared, given that this is intended to compete with that. I totally get that these are really expensive experiences, but I do think many people at least find it to be interesting to see how the luxury cruising industry has evolved, and the hotel crossover.
Regarding hotels, I've talked a bit about my evolving approach there in this post:
https://onemileatatime.com/insights/hotel-industry-evolved-preferences/
What it comes down to in part is that luxury hotel rates are through the roof, and even points properties have become absurdly expensive, to the point that a "pay with points" redemption at an independent property often costs as much as transferring points to a program like World of Hyatt or Marriott Bonvoy, and redeeming that way, all while offering a better experience.
I hope you'll agree, though, that I continue to review all kinds of airline products, booked almost entirely with points, and I do more of those kinds of thorough reviews than just about anyone.
I understand that not everything will appeal to everyone. I continue to review a good number of points properties, including one coming up shortly in this review series, so I hope you can at least find value with some of those reviews. And again, I appreciate you reading and interacting!
Ben, thanks for your thoughtful reply, and of course you're right: most of the reviews you do are of points bookings on airlines, which I love, continue to read, and inform my own choices.
And I am happy to read reviews of points properties. I will point out one thing: the cost of redeeming points at properties is, indeed, through the roof for high-demand properties in high-demand places. I would submit to you that many...
Ben, thanks for your thoughtful reply, and of course you're right: most of the reviews you do are of points bookings on airlines, which I love, continue to read, and inform my own choices.
And I am happy to read reviews of points properties. I will point out one thing: the cost of redeeming points at properties is, indeed, through the roof for high-demand properties in high-demand places. I would submit to you that many of your readers aren't necessarily interested in going to a high-season tourist destination. Of course, these aren't all of your hotel reviews, but my point is that there are lots of properties that can be had with good points or cash value in some fascinating parts of the world. My wife and I just got back from Argentina, for example, and got incredible value out of the trip. Food for thought!
@ FMBWI -- Hey, you're 100% right, and I agree with you, and appreciate your thoughts! I'll keep making an effort to check out those kinds of properties that still represent a decent value. For example, I had an amazing stay at the Park Hyatt Kuala Lumpur recently, and I also plan to visit Jakarta soon, which has some very reasonably priced luxury hotels.
Thanks, Ben - looking forward to reading those, especially Jakarta.
I think plenty of readers of this blog have also evolved in a similar way to Ben travel wise though.
For example, reading early on I was a huge points enthusiast and was interested in both points maximization and also aspirational properties and flights you could book on points.
Both because of the dilution of value in the points world (and Marriott diluting their program after acquiring SPG - which was my favored program),...
I think plenty of readers of this blog have also evolved in a similar way to Ben travel wise though.
For example, reading early on I was a huge points enthusiast and was interested in both points maximization and also aspirational properties and flights you could book on points.
Both because of the dilution of value in the points world (and Marriott diluting their program after acquiring SPG - which was my favored program), but also with natural career progression and getting older, my partner and I now skew far more heavily towards more expensive, non-points hotels and experiences. Having reviews of those places is hugely valuable from someone like Ben's vantage in the same way I've always appreciated the points hotel reviews. And many luxury reviews out there are either from explicit marketing channels for hotels, or from travel advisors with less thorough or more salesy perspectives (understanding Ben has his own inherent bias / context to be aware of with Ford's service), so having a different source is really helpful.
I agree that Ben spending his own money and points for just about everything that he reviews is what makes this blog generally great. I'm glad that yours and your partners lives and careers have evolved to the point that you feel comfortable spending that sort of money on a hotel room - truly, I am! However, I'm not so sure that most readers of this site are in the same position. I don't think...
I agree that Ben spending his own money and points for just about everything that he reviews is what makes this blog generally great. I'm glad that yours and your partners lives and careers have evolved to the point that you feel comfortable spending that sort of money on a hotel room - truly, I am! However, I'm not so sure that most readers of this site are in the same position. I don't think we're looking for Comfort Inn reviews, but, as I stated above, there are plenty of aspirational hotels all around the world where you can get great value for points or cash - and they aren't in some high-price, high-demand, high-season destination.
I disagree, as I don't have much interest in points-only properties or experiences, but am more interested in luxury experiences like these, and even if it's something out of my range, I still love to learn about what's out there, and it's always a fun read. Just wanted to point out to you that contrary to your belief, there are people reading this blog that value reviews like these. It might not be for you,...
I disagree, as I don't have much interest in points-only properties or experiences, but am more interested in luxury experiences like these, and even if it's something out of my range, I still love to learn about what's out there, and it's always a fun read. Just wanted to point out to you that contrary to your belief, there are people reading this blog that value reviews like these. It might not be for you, and that's okay, but if that's the case, instead of complaining, just skip the review that doesn't interest you, and move onto the one that does. I do that all the time, it's that simple. :) Ben, keep doing what you do, I for one love these luxury reviews, keep them coming!
Woah! Incredibly thorough review. So, if you had to pick one or the other, FS or Ritz-Carlton? I'd assume, FS for the boat; RC for near-everything being included. Great to see the additional details after your initial thoughts posted in July. I think the rescheduling (from January in the Caribbean to July in the Mediterranean) worked in your favor. And, for $35K (with or without discounts), at least they start out with the caviar and...
Woah! Incredibly thorough review. So, if you had to pick one or the other, FS or Ritz-Carlton? I'd assume, FS for the boat; RC for near-everything being included. Great to see the additional details after your initial thoughts posted in July. I think the rescheduling (from January in the Caribbean to July in the Mediterranean) worked in your favor. And, for $35K (with or without discounts), at least they start out with the caviar and Dom gratis, even if nearly everything else is chargeable and the spa folio is a little off-putting. (Wonder what Four Seasons II and III will be like...) I also am curious how this yacht compares to the FS 'Explorer' vessel that has started operating in Palau (just 11-ish rooms).
@ 1990_ -- Thanks! It's interesting, the next two Four Seasons vessels will be the same size, but will feature more multi-bedroom suites, so they're intended to be more of a "residential" concept. I'm curious about the year-round demand for three and four bedroom cruise suites. I imagine the Four Seasons Explorer concept is completely different, and is more about diving than luxury.
Regarding FSY vs. RCYC, that's a great question, and I plan to...
@ 1990_ -- Thanks! It's interesting, the next two Four Seasons vessels will be the same size, but will feature more multi-bedroom suites, so they're intended to be more of a "residential" concept. I'm curious about the year-round demand for three and four bedroom cruise suites. I imagine the Four Seasons Explorer concept is completely different, and is more about diving than luxury.
Regarding FSY vs. RCYC, that's a great question, and I plan to publish a post about that soon. FSY definitely feels more luxurious, and you do get more space per person. But at least based on how things currently stand, I do think RCYC does a better job delivering on their promises, and also represents a better overall value.
Hopefully FSY can figure out the service situation, because I think I would've had a different impression if service had actually reflected the fares being charged.
Great insights! (Unusual market for the multiple-bedroom, year-round folks. Perhaps, there's multi-generational families with deep-pockets, but not deep-enough for their own yachts? IDK.) Looking forward to your upcoming FSY vs. RCYC comparison—really appreciate you digging into the weeds on these! (As I'm into snorkeling, I've been eyeing that FS Explorer in Palau, so we'll see who gets to that one first! Could be an epic Reader Story... bah!)
A good read.
Did you make known your issues with service at the time and what kind of service recovery was there? At this level, if there are repeated mistakes then I would hope there would be some meaningful response to make up for it.
@ Nikojas -- We absolutely did provide feedback, and had several conversations with Mel, the general manager. She was great, in the sense that she was clearly alarmed by our feedback, and wanted to make things right. I did get the sense that she probably wasn't being empowered enough, though, to actually turn the experience around quickly.
In terms of service recovery, at the end of the cruise Mel offered us a discount on a...
@ Nikojas -- We absolutely did provide feedback, and had several conversations with Mel, the general manager. She was great, in the sense that she was clearly alarmed by our feedback, and wanted to make things right. I did get the sense that she probably wasn't being empowered enough, though, to actually turn the experience around quickly.
In terms of service recovery, at the end of the cruise Mel offered us a discount on a future sailing (equal to 30% of the cost of our journey), within a couple of years. To be honest, that's not something we'll probably take advantage of, though, since I don't need to experience this again (nothing against Four Seasons Yachts, I just like to have new experiences).
While minor, what disappointed me most about the service recovery is that they didn't even adjust the cost of our spa treatments. We were charged an 18% service charge that was never disclosed, and which doesn't even go directly to the therapist. I of course don't want to screw over the employees, but you shouldn't be paying for a hidden cost. That rubbed me the wrong way. But even bigger picture -- how in the months since launch had no one noticed that the 18% fee wasn't disclosed anywhere?!
That would have annoyed me too about the spa billing. "We will give you a discount if you spend another 5 figures", isn't really what I would be enthusiastic about for service recovery either.
I hope at least they didn't make you pay for the pizza.
@ Nikojas -- Hah, they did comp the entire pizza meal (not that it was terribly expensive), so that was appreciated. :-)
Given the price of admission, plus the minimal cost, the pizza should be perfect.
One way to compare spaciousness of ships is the Passenger Space Ratio (PSR). You determine PSR by dividing the Gross Registered Tonnage (GRT) of the vessel by the passenger capacity. The higher the PSR, the more spacious the ship is, in theory. GRT only takes into account ENCLOSED space, and accordingly, PSR is not a definitive representation of spaciousness.
Amangati: 245
Orient Express Corinthian: 203
Four Seasons I: 179
Ritz Ilma: 104
One way to compare spaciousness of ships is the Passenger Space Ratio (PSR). You determine PSR by dividing the Gross Registered Tonnage (GRT) of the vessel by the passenger capacity. The higher the PSR, the more spacious the ship is, in theory. GRT only takes into account ENCLOSED space, and accordingly, PSR is not a definitive representation of spaciousness.
Amangati: 245
Orient Express Corinthian: 203
Four Seasons I: 179
Ritz Ilma: 104
Ritz Luminara: 103
Ritz Evrima: 89
Explora III: 78.6
Explora I/II: 69
Icon of the Seas: 45