ANA Will Fly New 777s To New York & Frankfurt

Filed Under: ANA

In early July, All Nippon Airways revealed a brand new first & business class product. This caught many of us off guard for a couple of reasons:

  • I wasn’t aware that ANA was even working on a new first & business class product; while other airlines hype new products for years, they announced this just weeks before it entered service
  • Both first & business class look spectacular; in particular, business class looks on par with Qatar Airways’ Qsuites, if not better

The new first class hard product looks very good, though not cutting edge. Crucially, it addresses some of the issues with the previous versions of the suites, like the lack of being able to look out the window or talk to a neighbor.

Meanwhile in business class their hard product does look cutting edge, as each business class seat has a door, and looks incredibly wide.

ANA began offering these new cabins between Tokyo Haneda and London Heathrow as of the beginning of this month. Unfortunately the airline wasn’t especially clear about the rollout schedule for the new configuration beyond that.

So I’ve received tons of questions from readers about what the next routes to feature the new cabins will be, though up until now we haven’t known. Well, now we finally do… sort of.

ANA has today announced the next two routes to be operated by their new 777-300ER cabins:

  • Starting in winter 2019, ANA will fly these planes between Tokyo Haneda/Tokyo Narita and New York JFK (the reason it’s operating both the Haneda and Narita flight is because ANA swaps planes for the two flights in New York)
  • After that, ANA will fly these planes between Tokyo Haneda and Frankfurt

Unfortunately as of now they haven’t yet announced exactly when the planes will start flying on these routes, though at least we know that New York is next, followed by Frankfurt.

I’ve looked at seatmaps and don’t see any New York or Frankfurt flights updated with the new seatmaps, so we’ll have to be patient here.

The easy way to tell the difference between the layouts is that the new business class cabin has 64 seats, while the old cabin has either 52 or 68 seats. If the business class cabin goes to row 20, then it’s the new business class. Otherwise it’s the old business class.

In airline terms, the winter schedule typically starts in late October. However, they also don’t make the claim that the new product will be available to New York as of the beginning of the winter schedule. So realistically it could be any time between October and February that we see the route get the new cabins.

If you’re booked on the New York or Frankfurt route later this year or early next year, cross your fingers that you may luck out with this configuration!

  1. That’s actually quite interesting since typically the inbound HND and NRT aircraft swap routes in JFK. The inbound HND aircraft returns to NRT and vice versa.

  2. I think it’s Haneda/Narita New York, not just Haneda New York.

    “Starting in winter 2019 the plane will also serve the Tokyo (Haneda/Narita) = New York route followed by the Haneda = Frankfurt route.”

  3. I’m not following the configuration. We have tickets for March on a 77W and the old configuration is 52 business class seats, not 68.

  4. I’ve been looking for award seats on this route in the winter, and basically there isn’t any in F or J. Especially for two. I was anticipating this development, but I guess others were too. In the end I booked JAL F instead.

  5. Wow, this is great news. We’re getting a big increase in seats to Tokyo now from JFK hearing this news, (mostly just more business seats) and now United is going Double Daily to Tokyo from EWR!!!

    United is ensuring it’s dominant position in the Asian market with its partners and service from NYC, way to go.

    Really seems like United is courting the international Business traveler as it’s the US Airline to expand aggressively in NYC. They serve India 2, 2 Chinese cities + Hong Kong, (Singapore through partner), this is 4 frequency to Tokyo (1/2 United metal, half ANA).

    Plus on Europe, they are ensuring their success by adding new European markets (Naples/Prague) and upgrading existing services to the 787–10.

  6. @Lucky
    Do you have any idea when United is going to be releasing new summer European routes for 2020?

  7. Hoping for west coast routes (LAX, SFO) before the Olympics next summer!

    Since there are a total of 12 planes that are either new or being configured, and with these routes using 6 planes (I think – 2 LHR; 2 JFK; 2 FRA), there is only a few routes left that ANA will announce. Most 777W’s fly to the US as well.

    Anyone have any thoughts on where logically the next routes will be?

  8. Booked an award ticket through Aegean to fly this config in first class from LHR-HND in April. Really looking forward to experiencing the new seat and amazing Japanese service!

  9. I think the economy class is different as well… now 10 up. My seats were changed on a flight near halloween

  10. Great news!
    No doubt many of your British readers will be moaning about how the seats look (and feel) like coffins.
    Not sure where their obsession with coffins comes from…..

  11. Weird that another Matt just posted what I was gonna say about the Olympics.

    I do think they have an interest in getting their routes done before the Olympics, anywhere. This is the time when they are going to get the most business ever to attract new customers.

    I would expect the major markets in US next. So, probably SF and LA. Then Chicago. Then everywhere else. SF and LA are the highest likelihood before the Olympics, I’d guess.

  12. I have a Tokyo to New York flight in F scheduled for first week in November so I’m not optimistic I will get the new cabin but you never know.

  13. Just flew HND-JFK today, and the plane they used contained the new seats. Perhaps they’re rolling it out ahead of schedule.

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