Singapore First Class Vs. Cathay Pacific Business Class

Reader sofeea5664 asked the following question in the “Ask Lucky” forum:

So…my husband and I are going to Hong Kong next year. We have the option of flying Singapore First (not Suites) or Cathay Business from San Francisco. Both are direct flights. I have a TON of AA miles to redeem for Cathay Business (can’t find any first :( even doing a search a year out), but will deplete pretty much all my AmEx points for Singapore First. I’ve read Cathay Business is an amazing product and would not be disappointed. Any suggestions?

On the surface the answer seems obvious. First class on a top carrier is better than business class on a top carrier… right?

But there are two things at play here:

Cathay Pacific business class

I recently flew Cathay Pacific A330 business class from Male to Hong Kong, and then 777 business class from Hong Kong to Newark (the latter is the same plane you’d fly out of San Francisco).

Cathay Pacific business class features a fantastic reverse herringbone hard product, with a great blanket and pillow as well. You’ll arrive well rested. As far as business class products go it’s pretty tough to beat.

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That being said, I’d call the service solid but not memorable. The food is edible and the crews are generally friendly, though it’s not the level of attentive service you’d receive in first class.

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All things considered I found service in Cathay Pacific business class to feel a bit like an assembly line, where you’re just part of the “motions” they’re going through. But at least they didn’t strike me as disgruntled assembly line workers. 😉

I’ve always said business class is all about the hard product, though, and that’s an area where Cathay Pacific shines.

One other thing to note is that Cathay Pacific is generally very good about releasing last minute first class award space, and if you’re redeeming American miles, you can even upgrade the type of award without having to pay the change fee. So if you keep an eye on award space and are possibly willing to connect through Los Angeles, I’d say your odds of snagging a first class award last minute are pretty good.

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Singapore Airlines first class

Singapore is one of the best airlines in the world, and their first class service generally ranges from very good to incredible. And while San Francisco to Hong Kong isn’t operated by an A380 (and therefore it doesn’t have Suites Class), it is operated by a 777, on which it will soon be hard to find first class award seats.

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That’s because Singapore Airlines is reducing their first class cabins on the 777s from eight seats to four seats, so pretty soon I’d expect to see very few first class award seats available in advance. That makes this an award which might not be all that easy to snag in the future.

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That being said, as far as Singapore Airlines longhaul first class goes, I think the San Francisco to Hong Kong route is probably one of the more disappointing:

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Which option would I select?

Singapore Airlines first class is better than Cathay Pacific business class. Period. And while it’s possible Cathay Pacific first class will open closer to departure, it’s far from a guarantee, especially on the nonstop flight from San Francisco to Hong Kong.

I’d say it’s tough to turn down the nonstop first class option on Singapore when it’s available, especially as the opportunities to redeem for it will undoubtedly be decreasing in the future.

But how do you balance Singapore being an overall better option with the fact that it would use up almost all of your American Express points?

I guess my thoughts is that Singapore KrisFlyer miles are probably the single easiest mileage currency to accrue. Singapore is transfer partners with American Express Membership Rewards, Chase Ultimate Rewards, Citi ThankYou, and Starwood Preferred Guest. So you can transfer all four flexible points currencies at a 1:1 ratio to Singapore KrisFlyer.

There are so many cards through which you can accrue points that can be transferred to Singapore KrisFlyer, including the following:

Bottom line

Ultimately I think you can’t go wrong either way here. Cathay Pacific has one of the best business class products, while Singapore Airlines is consistently excellent, even if this isn’t my favorite route on which to fly them.

But I’d still choose Singapore Airlines first class over Cathay Pacific business class, despite the points imbalance here. Singapore KrisFlyer — and for that matter transferable points in general — are so easy to accrue nowadays. Even if you spend all your Membership Rewards points on this redemption, you shouldn’t have too much trouble earning them back (or otherwise accruing Chase Ultimate Rewards, Citi ThankYou points, etc.).

Which option would you go with in the above situation — Singapore first class or Cathay Pacific business class?

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Shaniqua Guest

Lord have mercy, y'all. Truth is, when my man and I go to Hong Kong we always, always fly international First Class via the UAE. There is no other way to get around than to fly in First Class on Emirates or Etihad. Lord Jesus knows that the experience we receive on those aircrafts is much better than what any old uptight Singapore geisha can give. And although the ladies on Cathy Pacific are proper and attentive, they make the flight as boring as hell without an iPhone and SnapChat. So hun, save the miles, screw the AA points, and fly Emirates A380 First Class. That is what The Hobby is for. GO BIG OR GO HOME. AMEN!!! Ben: Still a good post, just sayin.

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PetterP Member

I flew two flights on CX in J, and was sadly disappointed, The crew was OK, and so was the cabin, but the food-offerings on DOH-HKG-KUL were very disappointing. I had to end up with a Economy meal to find anything eatable.

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H Guest

Worth noting that while the CX J seat is great for business travel, its really not ideal for travelling with someone else - given that its just so private for J class. In that respect, SQ F may also be a better idea.

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Ben S Guest

I also don't understand Ben's logic. This route is one of the worst to fly SQ F. CX J is great and considering the points available - go for CX J and if you can upgrade to F, all the better. And if that doesn't open - you're still saving those Amex for a proper SQ F route and flying in a pretty solid J product.

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jim Guest

Thanks fr the suggestion on CX. I don't see any biz seats on CX so I have my ORD-HKG award on hold for 5 days. We wanted to try biz seats but was worried the the way seats are set up would be trouble. I have never flown biz class. BTW, My 19 months old never shouts, cries and we flew coach to seoul and singapore and not once did he cry. We control our kid. My planned trip not yet booked is ORD-HKG, stop over for 6 days and HKG-DEL. same stop over and 6 days later DEL-KTM. And return is ORD-HKG. We can just pay for the DEL-KTM one way cos it is cheap and if it can't be free with with miles. Thanks What miles should we use? AA or UA?

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