Review: Boliviana De Aviacion Business Class Airbus A330 (MIA-VVI)

Review: Boliviana De Aviacion Business Class Airbus A330 (MIA-VVI)

FROM: MIA
TO: VVI
CABIN: Business
DATE: September 2024
REVIEW RATING:
BEN SAYS: Boliviana de Aviacion's A330 business class has attractive pricing, with comfortable seats and top notch bedding. However, manage your expectations when it comes to the food, drinks, service, and amenities.
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I kicked off the second portion of my two times to Latin America review trip by flying Boliviana de Aviacion’s Airbus A330-200 business class on the 6hr10min flight from Miami (MIA) to Santa Cruz de la Sierra (VVI).

It’s no secret that this is the segment of the trip that I was most looking forward to, as Boliviana de Aviacion has fascinated me for the longest time. Living in Miami, I see the carrier’s gorgeous A330 parked at the airport just about very time I fly, and it was time to finally give the carrier a shot.

So, how was my experience? In a way it was anticlimactic, as it was actually a pretty decent, comfortable experience. The airline flies former Virgin Australia A330s with super comfortable seats and exceptional bedding.

Aside from that, the product was pretty lackluster. The crew was well intentioned but not very polished, and the food and drinks were very basic. But still, given the price, I thought this flight represented an excellent value, and I’d fly with the airline again in a heartbeat.

How I booked my Boliviana de Aviacion business class ticket

Boliviana de Aviacion doesn’t belong to any global airline alliance, and doesn’t even have any major airline loyalty partners, so the only practical way for most of us to book the airline is with cash (what a novel concept). 😉

The good news is that the carrier’s business class pricing is exceedingly reasonable. I booked the following business class flight for $695.42:

9/23 OB767 Miami to Santa Cruz de la Sierra departing 11:00PM arriving 5:50AM (+1 day)

You really can’t argue with that price for a 3,200-mile flight in a flat bed with direct aisle access!

Boliviana de Aviacion business class check-in & boarding

I’m not going to lie, I was kind of giddy when I arrived at Miami Airport and saw the Boliviana de Aviacion sign, as it was a bit more exciting than my typical American flights from the airport.

Boliviana de Aviacion Miami Airport signage

I quickly found the check-in desk, where there was a long queue. At the very far left of the check-in area was a premium line, which (funny enough) was labeled as “First Class Check-In,” without any sort of airline branding beyond that.

Boliviana de Aviacion Miami Airport check-in
Boliviana de Aviacion Miami Airport check-in signage

I was helped within five minutes. The check-in agent wasn’t very knowledgable at all, though. At first, he insisted that I needed to have applied for a visa for Bolivia. I explained that the country allows visa on arrival for US citizens, and also that I have a German passport, which doesn’t require a visa for Bolivia. It took him some time to check with his manager, but eventually he came back and said everything was okay.

Boliviana de Aviacion departs from Concourse F. Despite having lived in Miami for many years, I’ve actually never flown from this terminal, so I was excited for the adventure. On the night I was departing, the terminal was open exclusively for the Boliviana de Aviacion flight, as no other flights were departing.

I was surprised that CLEAR was open despite there being a single flight from the terminal. That saved me some time, as there was no TSA PreCheck (since Boliviana de Aviacion doesn’t participate in TSA PreCheck).

Gosh, Concourse F is kind of not very nice, to put it politely. I don’t think very highly of Miami Airport to begin with, but this is especially basic.

Miami Airport Concourse F

Concourse F also doesn’t have any lounges. Boliviana de Aviacion doesn’t offer lounge access to business class passengers, but there wasn’t even an option with something like Priority Pass. There’s the Club America, but it seems to be under some sort of renovation, or temporary closure, or something.

Miami Airport Concourse F lounge

The main part of Concourse F was just one huge room with a bunch of seating. At least the seating was in reasonably good condition.

Miami Airport Concourse F seating

If you want a sense of just how “exotic” the airlines departing from this terminal are, take a look at some of the baggage sizers.

Miami Airport Concourse F baggage sizers
Miami Airport Concourse F baggage sizers

My flight was departing from gate F16. One thing I found fascinating is that the crew was at the gate at 9PM, a full two hours before departure. It’s rare to see airline crews show up that early. Boarding was scheduled for 10PM, one hour before departure, and that’s also exactly when it actually started. Business class passengers were invited to board first.

Boliviana de Aviacion Miami Airport departure gate

Boliviana de Aviacion A330 business class cabin & seats

As mentioned above, Boliviana de Aviacion’s pair of A330s are former Virgin Australia jets, and the airline made no changes to the interiors. The business class cabin consists of a total of 20 seats, between the first and second set of doors. There are a total of five rows, and seats are in a 1-2-1 configuration.

These planes have reverse herringbone seats, and specifically, Collins Aerospace Super Diamond seats.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class cabin A330
Boliviana de Aviacion business class cabin A330

Those traveling together may prefer the center seats, so that you can kind of enjoy the flight together. However, if you end up sitting in the center next to a stranger, don’t worry, as there’s a privacy shield that can be extended.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class seats A330
Boliviana de Aviacion business class seat A330

Most people will probably prefer one of the window seats. In a reverse herringbone configuration, there’s really not much difference between seats, so I wouldn’t say that one seat is much better than another.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class seats A330
Boliviana de Aviacion business class seats A330

I assigned myself seat 4A, the window seat on the left side in the second to last row.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class seat A330
Boliviana de Aviacion business class seat A330
Boliviana de Aviacion business class seat A330

With these Super Diamond seats, if you’ve seen one, you’ve basically seen them all. As far as seat features go, each seat has a 16″ personal entertainment system, attached to the seat in front.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class seat screen A330

The tray table can be extended from underneath the entertainment monitor. When you pull it out, you have to flip it over, unless you don’t need the full tray.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class seat tray table A330

The seat also has a shallow enclosed storage compartment, where you can place things like a passport or phone during a flight. This is also where you’ll find the AC and USB-A power outlets, plus the headphone jack.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class seat storage A330

There’s also a small monitor that allows you to control the seat functions, which is pretty straightforward.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class seat controls A330

The aisle side of the seat has an additional storage compartment.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class seat storage A330

One thing that stood out to me about this seat is that it felt surprisingly spacious for an A330. The A330’s fuselage isn’t as wide as on some other wide body jets, and sometimes that can make business class seats feel narrow, especially in bed mode. I didn’t at all find that to be the case here, and even found the footwell to be a good size.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class seat footwell A330

I was also delighted to see how the jet has individual air nozzles, which always help with sleeping comfortably.

Boliviana de Aviacion overhead console A330

What an absolutely lovely, fresh cabin! It’s nice when an airline picks up a secondhand jet and it elevates the passenger experience, rather than putting a damper on it.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class amenities

Waiting at my seat upon boarding was some exceptional bedding. This consisted of two plush pillows with cool Boliviana de Aviacion branding, plus a cozy blanket. It’s rare to get two proper pillows in business class, and I loved the blanket as well. I wasn’t expecting Boliviana de Aviacion to maybe be among the top five airlines in the world when it comes to business class bedding, so that was lovely.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class pillows
Boliviana de Aviacion business class blanket

Much less impressive was the pair of earbuds offered, which reminded me of flying economy in the 1990s. There were no amenity kits on this flight — I believe the airline exclusively offers those on the Madrid route, which is the carrier’s only “true” long haul flight.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class earbuds

There was also a 600ml bottle of water, which has to be one of the biggest bottles of water I’ve ever had placed at a seat.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class bottled water

After settling in, one of the business class flight attendants stopped by my seat to offer me a pre-departure drink. She simply asked if I wanted something, so I asked for a glass of white wine, which was promptly served.

I love how the airline has pre-departure drinks of choice, though I can’t help but wonder if the airline is actually paying duty on all alcoholic drinks, or if the airline just isn’t following regulations, and no one has noticed, given that the airline has a single route to the United States.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class pre-departure drink

Boliviana de Aviacion A330 business class entertainment

Boliviana de Aviacion offers on-demand entertainment at every seat on its A330s.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class entertainment A330

Definitely manage your expectations when it comes to the selection. There were only around 36 movies and around 32 TV shows, so it was one of the more limited entertainment libraries out there. If you want to stay entertained during the flight, I’d recommend bringing you own content. Fortunately on a quick overnight flight, I was just planning on sleeping most of the way.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class entertainment A330
Boliviana de Aviacion business class entertainment A330

Of course there was also a map feature, which is my favorite entertainment option.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class entertainment A330

Unfortunately Boliviana de Aviacion doesn’t offer Wi-Fi on its A330s.

Boliviana de Aviacion A330 departure from Miami

The boarding process took quite some time, but that was fine, given that boarding started an hour before departure. By 10:45PM, 15 minutes ahead of the scheduled departure time, boarding wrapped up.

12 of the 20 business class seats were occupied, while economy seemed to be full (a vast majority of economy passengers were connecting to Argentina or Brazil, as Boliviana de Aviacion sells the cheapest fares in the market).

Once the door closed, the safety video was screened. I didn’t have many expectations here, but to my surprise, the airline had a very engaging video.

At 10:50PM we began our pushback. Hello, World Atlantic MD-83!

Boliviana de Aviacion A330 pushback view

We then started our taxi at 10:55PM, and were cleared for takeoff on runway 8R at 11:10PM. We had a smooth takeoff roll and climb out. The seatbelt sign was never turned off on this flight, and for that matter, there was never an announcement from the pilots.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class dinner

On this Boliviana de Aviacion flight, dinner was served after takeoff. The crew had already taken meal orders on the ground, with the choices being described as salmon with white rice and sautéed vegetables, or chicken cordon bleu with yellow rice (there were no printed menus).

Service was slow to get started after takeoff. Warm towels were distributed just under an hour after takeoff, which was the first inflight service interaction.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class warm towel

Then around 75 minutes after takeoff, meals were served off a cart. The entire meal was served on a single tray, and each dish still had plastic wrap on it. I assume this is intended to provide passengers with some reassurance about food not being contaminated, rather than it just being crew laziness?

The meal was certainly generous in size, and was otherwise… okay? The salmon, veggies, and rice, were edible. That was complemented by a “salad” (a creative mix of sliced and shaved veggies), a cheese plate with two types of cheese, strawberry cheesecake, and a bread roll.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class dinner

For those curious about Boliviana de Aviacion’s alcohol selection in business class, it’s pretty basic. There was an Altosama Demi Sec sparkling wine, which retails for around $10. The red and white wine were from DUO, with a similar retail price. There was also some basic liquor, which was stocked on the cart in mini bottles.

Boliviana de Aviacion A330 business class lavatories

After the meal, I checked out the lavatories. The Boliviana de Aviacion A330 has a business class lavatory at the front of the cabin, and then there are also a couple of lavatories behind the cabin, by the second set of doors. The lavatory was basic, and just had some soap in an unbranded container.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class lavatory A330
Boliviana de Aviacion business class lavatory A330
Boliviana de Aviacion business class lavatory A330

Boliviana de Aviacion A330 business class bed

Once back at my seat, I was looking forward to getting some rest on this short overnight flight. I reclined the seat into bed mode, and found it to be comfortable, better than any reverse herringbone seat I’ve been in on an A330.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class bed A330
Boliviana de Aviacion business class bed A330

I fell asleep around 90 minutes after takeoff, as we were about halfway between Jamaica and Colombia.

Map enroute to Santa Cruz de la Sierra
Map enroute to Santa Cruz de la Sierra

I then woke up a little over an hour before arrival, as we were entering Bolivian airspace.

Map enroute to Santa Cruz de la Sierra
Map enroute to Santa Cruz de la Sierra

I got a bit over three hours of solid sleep, which is pretty good for me, at least on such a short flight. I can’t overstate how much I appreciate the combination of a comfortable seat, excellent bedding, and individual air nozzles.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class breakfast

Around an hour before landing, the crew passed through the cabin with a light breakfast. This consisted of a turkey and cheese sandwich (it looked and smelled to me more like ham, but the crew insisted it was turkey), a side of fruit, and drinks. It was a basic service, but then again, a second meal is hardly necessary on such a short flight.

I had a coffee to drink, and the only quirk was that there was no milk onboard, but rather just powdered creamer.

Boliviana de Aviacion business class breakfast

Boliviana de Aviacion business class service

What was service like on Boliviana de Aviacion? The crew was quite young, and they were generally friendly and well intentioned. That being said, I’d say service most definitely wasn’t polished, and there was a lack of attention to detail on the safety front.

When it comes to service being polished, admittedly the crew only has so much to work with, given the carrier’s lackluster soft product. That being said, it sure would be nice if there were a drink service prior to the meal, given that meals were only served 75 minutes after takeoff.

The crew wasn’t very proactive with drink refills or clearing service items. They fulfilled all requests without hesitation when I asked, but they never proactively offered another glass of wine, cup of coffee, etc.

It doesn’t really bother me, but it’s interesting to note that the crew napped in the empty business class seats. That simply reflects that the airline obviously doesn’t have super strict standards for crews, as you’d never see that happen on a carrier like Qatar Airways or Singapore Airlines.

Lastly, the crew was just rather lax when it came to enforcing safety. For example, when the cabin was prepared for landing, they never came to check that my seat was upright, and didn’t even clear the glass at my seat. For that matter, some passengers were still standing standing up when the gear came out on final approach.

Boliviana de Aviacion A330 arrival in Santa Cruz de la Sierra

We made great time on our flight, and at 4:50AM local time, we began our descent.

Map approaching Santa Cruz de la Sierra
Map approaching Santa Cruz de la Sierra
Map approaching Santa Cruz de la Sierra

Our descent was gradual, and we ended up landing at 5:20AM. From there we had a 10-minute taxi to our arrival gate, where we pulled in at 5:30AM, 20 minutes ahead of schedule. Once at the gate, the crew announced that the plane would be disembarked five rows at a time, and to my surprise, most people seemed to listen, and stayed seated until they were instructed to get up.

Bottom line

I found Boliviana de Aviacion’s A330 business class to be a pleasant but unmemorable experience. The carrier’s business class represents a phenomenal value — the seats are comfortable and the bedding is excellent, which is the most important thing on a long haul flight.

The rest of the experience was okay, from the mediocre food, to the lackluster drink selection, to the well intentioned but not very polished service.

I’d fly with the carrier again in a heartbeat, because the price for this product is tough to beat. And I do intend to fly with the airline in the future, as I hope to properly visit Bolivia, and this is the most convenient way to get there.

What do you make of Boliviana de Aviacion’s A330 business class?

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  1. Joel Guest

    I am flying OB tomorrow to Buenos Aires. calls are disconnected to the US service line. Earlier they had told me Concourse G but comments here mention F. Anyone flown in the last couple of weeks to confirm? Is there a lounge at Viru Viru for the layover?

  2. Robert Guest

    Great review, thanks. You mentioned "I assigned myself seat 4A". I have flown BOA for many years, including in September in business class on the route you took. I have never been able to assign myself a seat. Their web site is very basic, and there is mention of a business class. There is no App. The result is everything related to business class travel has to be done over the phone. Did you have a different experience?
    Thanks

  3. BM Guest

    I flew that route roundtrip last year and received amenity kits in both directions (and on two different planes). They were unremarkable. The best part was the zippered neoprene bag that I have found useful as a padded electronics case.

    Two years earlier there were no amenity kits.

  4. Mason Guest

    And according to Proximanova, this and Copa 737 are whay you should fly instead of Korean Air 787 and and JAL A35K, because you should "visualise yourself flying Qsuites or Air France or JAL or something of that kind! ;)".

    At least this looks like a decent business class option tho.
    Copa? No thanks. Keep that for yourself.

  5. FLLFLYER New Member

    @Jason - correct! Concourse F used to be Pan Am - and was then the home of UA when they had a Latin Am hub in MIA. The Club America was a gorgeous Red Carpet Club. I wonder if it was an original Pan Am WorldClub?
    Concourse F is a sad sack. When I visited Club America it made lounges in Latin America seem like AA Flagship lounges.

    Ben - if you really want...

    @Jason - correct! Concourse F used to be Pan Am - and was then the home of UA when they had a Latin Am hub in MIA. The Club America was a gorgeous Red Carpet Club. I wonder if it was an original Pan Am WorldClub?
    Concourse F is a sad sack. When I visited Club America it made lounges in Latin America seem like AA Flagship lounges.

    Ben - if you really want to see a horrible concourse go to G. I believe it is the home of similar airlines that use F. NW and AC used it years ago.

    Mayor Daniela has no love for Concourse F or G. No payola!

  6. Aaron Guest

    I also found it interesting how you mentioned that all Super Diamond seats are tomorrow or less, the same. I remember flying the Garuda A330 and I believe that the seats were Super Diamonds as well (the shape of the stowage area where headphones are kept have a very peculiar shape). I remember the footwell being quite tight and having difficulty sleeping (I’m 5’6). I also hated the screen seat controls on Garuda, it takes...

    I also found it interesting how you mentioned that all Super Diamond seats are tomorrow or less, the same. I remember flying the Garuda A330 and I believe that the seats were Super Diamonds as well (the shape of the stowage area where headphones are kept have a very peculiar shape). I remember the footwell being quite tight and having difficulty sleeping (I’m 5’6). I also hated the screen seat controls on Garuda, it takes five who minutes for it to dim… imagine trying to sleep with that super bright screen in your face!

  7. Aarom Guest

    Did you need to get a Bolivian visa on arrival? If so, how was the experience? I’ve been wanting to visit Uyuni, though I have heard that you needed a yellow fever vaccine. Has anyone else needed to get a VoA? I’d appreciate the info!

  8. yoloswag420 Guest

    It looks good enough as a hard product, everything else seems rather mediocre though from the ground experience to food. Seems like this is one of those flights where you go to sleep immediately and call it a night.

  9. Tyler Guest

    Had the opportunity to fly in late October...was very impressed knowing BOA's reputation

    Some big kudos to their customer service team - after you had mentioned in your original post that there was no amenity kit provided, I reached out (maybe just more than once ; ) ) - and had asked if there was any way one could be loaded on the way in from VVI, as i find this to be a rare...

    Had the opportunity to fly in late October...was very impressed knowing BOA's reputation

    Some big kudos to their customer service team - after you had mentioned in your original post that there was no amenity kit provided, I reached out (maybe just more than once ; ) ) - and had asked if there was any way one could be loaded on the way in from VVI, as i find this to be a rare one - and after a few tries, was notified that it wouldnt be possible....

    Come boarding time - I was pretty blown away that there was one brand new amenity kit awaiting on just one seat of the plane, 2k

    Food i found to be better than just palatable, but overall a great snooze down to Santa Cruz - a fun experience!

  10. echino Diamond

    "to book the airline is with cash (what a novel concept)" - I don't think this word means what you think it means. You didn't actually book this flight with cash.

  11. D3kingg Guest

    Nice review Ben. I would have been excited as well first arriving at the airport.

    They ‘vibed’ me like local surfers once at Checkin with British Airways in Houston on my way to Mumbai regarding my visa. In this case I had a printout of my visa on hand and stood my ground. They suggested that my India visa expires tomorrow. I then quickly read it and it stated entry to India by that date.

  12. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

    The hard product looks excellent. For sure, 100% better than my expectations. The dinner (minus the cheese and salad) looks like it was much better than average, especially that piece of salmon. The wine selection appears to be Bolivian wine. Kudos to the airline for serving wine from Bolivia. Not sure if it's any good, but it's probably better than serving $3-$8 wine from California, like Delta. As for the safety, perhaps there is no...

    The hard product looks excellent. For sure, 100% better than my expectations. The dinner (minus the cheese and salad) looks like it was much better than average, especially that piece of salmon. The wine selection appears to be Bolivian wine. Kudos to the airline for serving wine from Bolivia. Not sure if it's any good, but it's probably better than serving $3-$8 wine from California, like Delta. As for the safety, perhaps there is no Bolivian rule about requiring serviceware to be removed or seats being upright. I've seen plenty of other airlines from countries outside North America and Europe be more relaxed in this regard.

  13. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

    "Gosh, Concourse F is kind of not very nice, to put it politely. I don’t think very highly of Miami Airport to begin with, but this is especially basic."

    You better be careful. The Miami airport officials may come after you.

  14. PJS678 Member

    Just so you know, there was a crew member napping in a business class bulkhead seat on my LAX-SIN SQ flight so it does happen on those airlines.

    1. Duck Ling Guest

      Great review, thanks!

      Re crew napping in business class, I have seen this on some of the 'stricter' airlines however I believe it came with the blessing of the company.

      Many times flying from HKG - Australia on Cathay I would see crew climbing into empty business class seats once the lights were dimmed as the A330s which operated those routes at the time did not have proper crew rest. I later found out this was a policy the company was happy to provide.

  15. vlcnc Guest

    It actually feels perfectly acceptable to be honest and quite good value.

  16. Jack Guest

    Thanks, Ben. It’s content like this that keeps me reading here.

  17. Jason Guest

    This is a great review - I've been looking forward to it. I'm going to Bolivia in 2025, but flying on copa as from DC they offer the best routing, but I was considering taking this one.

    Good thoughts on MIA Concourse F. That place is historic and old. Back in the day that was Pan Am's concource, then United operated its hub out of those gates until they shut that hub down around 2004/2005. That lounge use to be a really great United Club. Memories!

  18. RichM Diamond

    I've flown that plane, back in its Virgin Australia days.

    I'd agree the seats are very good for an A330 product - comfortable, and the bed is relatively spacious. It was almost too good for the 5 hour SYD to PER route that it typically flew.

  19. Alec Gold

    Random question/thought on:

    “One thing I found fascinating is that the crew was at the gate at 9PM, a full two hours before departure. It’s rare to see airline crews show up that early.”

    Do flight crew still have to be out of their hotel rooms at ~11 am or do airlines have special conditions/book the following night. Sure sounds unpleasant to have to be out of your room almost 12 hours before you...

    Random question/thought on:

    “One thing I found fascinating is that the crew was at the gate at 9PM, a full two hours before departure. It’s rare to see airline crews show up that early.”

    Do flight crew still have to be out of their hotel rooms at ~11 am or do airlines have special conditions/book the following night. Sure sounds unpleasant to have to be out of your room almost 12 hours before you start work with no where to shower.

    Actually not that surprising that foreign crew (who are paid poorly) don’t have anywhere to go or want to spend money at before late flight

    1. Timtamtrak Diamond

      Almost uniformly (in the US at least), transportation companies have it written into hotel/lodging contracts that the rooms can be occupied until the crew is supposed to report for duty. Normal check in/out times do not apply, and generally speaking the company pays for the rooms as a 24-hour period.

      Example 1: Crew flies into, let’s just say Denver and arrives the hotel at 11:30pm. They fly out the following night and have to depart...

      Almost uniformly (in the US at least), transportation companies have it written into hotel/lodging contracts that the rooms can be occupied until the crew is supposed to report for duty. Normal check in/out times do not apply, and generally speaking the company pays for the rooms as a 24-hour period.

      Example 1: Crew flies into, let’s just say Denver and arrives the hotel at 11:30pm. They fly out the following night and have to depart the hotel at 8:30pm. So, it’s about a 21 hour stay. The company pays the hotel for one night of lodging.

      Example 2: Crew flies into Denver at 10am and their flight out is 10pm the following night. This is about a 36 hour stay. The company would pay the hotel for two nights of lodging. (Over 24 hours)

      Example 3: Crew flies into Denver at 9am and departs the hotel at 9pm the same day. One night paid to the property even though the crew members are not there for a “night” at all.

      Example 4: Crew flies into Denver at 10pm and is scheduled to depart the hotel the next day at 10am. Their flight is super delayed and they don’t check out until 10pm. One night of lodging expense. If the flight is delayed until 3am the following day (again, it depends on how the contract with the hotel is written), but generally the company would be on the hook for a second night if the crew stays after midnight.

      Also worth noting - usually it’s written into a contract that the company doesn’t pay the hotel for no-show crew members unless the hotel is sold out. So if the flight diverts or cancels and the crew never arrives, and the hotel has unsold rooms, the hotel can’t charge a cancellation fee. All of the hotels we did business with had to send a daily occupancy sheet back to the corporate travel agency. If the hotel was not sold out and we (the company) had no-show crew members for any reason, we didn’t pay for the unoccupied crew rooms. If the hotel was sold out and had rooms set aside for us and the crew no-showed due to a cancelation or diversion, we had to pay for all the no-show rooms at the contracted rate.

      Source: At my last job, I was involved in selecting hotels for our crew members within the area I supervised. (Not actually negotiating the rate, just working with our corporate travel agency and local union contacts to decide what lodging was most acceptable in terms of safety, cost, location, amenities, etc.)

    2. MissingScurrah New Member

      Depends on the airline, but I know many have deals with hotels to allow for the room to be in use at most if not all times. E.g. say a route operates daily and each day a new crew use the hotel for an overnighter with a 5pm arrival and 7pm departure time. The hotel would normally just have however many rooms always booked by the airline and then clean and service those rooms in the time between the first crew leaving and the second crew checking in.

  20. Willmo Guest

    Ben, is this your first time ever flying out of a (commercial) terminal with a single flight?

    I’ve never had that experience before.

  21. Willmo Guest

    ‘World Atlantic’ and ‘Global X’ sound like the generic names of airlines that are used in a movie.

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FNT Delta Diamond Guest

"Gosh, Concourse F is kind of not very nice, to put it politely. I don’t think very highly of Miami Airport to begin with, but this is especially basic." You better be careful. The Miami airport officials may come after you.

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FLLFLYER New Member

@Jason - correct! Concourse F used to be Pan Am - and was then the home of UA when they had a Latin Am hub in MIA. The Club America was a gorgeous Red Carpet Club. I wonder if it was an original Pan Am WorldClub? Concourse F is a sad sack. When I visited Club America it made lounges in Latin America seem like AA Flagship lounges. Ben - if you really want to see a horrible concourse go to G. I believe it is the home of similar airlines that use F. NW and AC used it years ago. Mayor Daniela has no love for Concourse F or G. No payola!

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Tyler Guest

Had the opportunity to fly in late October...was very impressed knowing BOA's reputation Some big kudos to their customer service team - after you had mentioned in your original post that there was no amenity kit provided, I reached out (maybe just more than once ; ) ) - and had asked if there was any way one could be loaded on the way in from VVI, as i find this to be a rare one - and after a few tries, was notified that it wouldnt be possible.... Come boarding time - I was pretty blown away that there was one brand new amenity kit awaiting on just one seat of the plane, 2k Food i found to be better than just palatable, but overall a great snooze down to Santa Cruz - a fun experience!

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