Qatar Airways Will Fly A380 To Frankfurt

While Qatar Airways has A380s, they have only 10 of them in their fleet, with no further A380s on order. As a point of comparison, Emirates has over 100 of them in their fleet.

While Emirates flies A380s to all kinds of destinations, Qatar Airways has to be much more selective with where they send these planes.

As of now, Qatar Airways flies the A380 to London, Paris, Bangkok, Guangzhou, Melbourne, Sydney, and Perth. The airline has now announced their next A380 destination.

Qatar Airways will begin flying the A380 daily between Doha and Frankfurt as of March 31, 2019.

Qatar Airways offers twice daily flights between Doha and Frankfurt. The earlier frequency in the day will continue to be operated by a Boeing 777-300ER featuring Qsuites, with the following schedule:

QR69 Doha to Frankfurt departing 1:35AM arriving 7:10AM
QR70 Frankfurt to Doha departing 10:55AM arriving 5:55PM

Meanwhile the later frequency will be operated by an A380, with the following schedule:

QR67 Doha to Frankfurt departing 8:05AM arriving 1:40PM
QR68 Frankfurt to Doha departing 5:35PM arriving 12:35AM (+1 day)

The later flight being changed to an A380 does represent a significant capacity upgrade. However, it’s not necessarily good news for everyone.

On the plus side, the A380 features a first class cabin consisting of eight seats, which the 777 doesn’t. I don’t think Qatar’s A380 first class is that amazing, as the seats aren’t that great, and also the service isn’t that much better than business class (which is largely a testament to how good Qatar’s business class service is).


Qatar Airways’ A380 first class


Qatar Airways’ A380 first class

In business class, the A380 features reverse herringbone seats.


Qatar Airways’ A380 business class

While these are good, they’re not as good as the Qsuites on the 777, which is the plane being replaced on this route.


Qatar Airways’ 777 business class

The one benefit for business class passengers is that the A380 has an excellent onboard bar, which I’d argue is the nicest bar in the sky.


Qatar Airways’ A380 bar

In economy I’d also say the A380 is a more comfortable ride — both planes have 10 seats per row in economy, and the A380 is wider.

Best I can tell, the A380 for this route is coming at the expense of an A380 on the Bangkok route. As of March 31, 2019, the QR832/833 frequency will be operated by a 777-300ER rather than an A380.

If you want to redeem miles for Qatar Airways’ A380 first class between Doha and Frankfurt, availability is wide open in both directions, and you can search space on either aa.com or ba.com.

As far as the cost of such a ticket goes:

  • If redeeming American AAdvantage miles you’d pay 62,500 miles one-way for a first class ticket between Europe and the Middle East/India; there are no carrier imposed surcharges
  • If redeeming British Airways Executive Club Avios you’d pay 50,000 Avios one-way for a first class ticket between Doha and Frankfurt, and any additional segments would cost extra; they pass on any carrier imposed surcharges, though they’re pretty mild

Bottom line

With just about any other airline I’d say a plane swap to an A380 is great news. However, in the case of Qatar Airways, they have a better business class product on their 777s, and I’d argue their service in business class is so good that their first class is unmemorable by comparison.

Still, I’d say on balance this is good news in economy, first class, and for those in business class who really like a bar.

Would you choose to fly the A380 or 777 between Doha and Frankfurt?

Comments

  1. As an alcoholic currently residing in Germany with a boat load of AAdvantage miles; this is great news!

    I just got to make sure not to piss my pants like I did on the inaugural ATLANTA Doha flight.

  2. Will be returning from Europe next August and may route through DOH just to fly QR F. However AA’s site is showing nothing on QR FRA-DOH any time in August; only returning results for BA and RJ. Same for BA’s site – only BA and RJ. Strange

  3. Would be great to see some direct comparison of first vs business on the same planes/routes within a short period of time for those of us trying to decide if it’s worth the upgrade from business on various airlines.

  4. Is it possible to book a QR award via BA on mixed cabins? Have a bunch of Avios and was planning on flying IAH-DOH-MUC J, but with Frankfurt being so close, it would be awesome to fly F to FRA instead of J into MUC.

  5. Before the introduction of Q-suites, you laughed when the Qatar CEO suggested there would soon be no need for first class. Now you are saying it yourself

  6. @Lucky, we booked our September 2019 honeymoon flights with AAdvantage miles (thx Citi!)FRA–>MLE specifically for the Q-suites. At the time of the booking we had the 777seat map, but we’re now on the A380.

    Qatar’s other Q-Suite European destinations don’t work within our wedding plans and switching to the earlier flight from Frankfurt on the 777 would give us too long of a stopover in Doha.

    We used to fly QR frequently prior the blockade (we’re residing in the GCC), and I still have roughly 30k miles and silver status in my QR account. I’m unfortunately out of AAdvantage miles after this booking.

    QR is showing award availability for first class on our dates, which would be awesome for the honeymoon, but I would need to buy 40k AAdvantage miles at a cost of $1,100. If it weren’t the honeymoon I wouldn’t even consider this as an option as I don’t think $1k is worth the added benefit of F on a 6hr QR flight.

    I was thinking of writing to QR or posting on their twitter page to see if I can play the honeymoon card, but in my experience that rarely works anymore these days.

    Any creative suggestions here?

  7. @ Alex

    “I was thinking … to see if I can play the honeymoon card, but in my experience that rarely works anymore these days.”

    Dear God: how many honeymoons have you had that that card no longer works for you? 🙂

  8. No-one cares about honeymoons anymore @Alex. Also if you care to look up the cost of a revenue ticket, you wouldn’t be agonising over spending $1100 on some miles to achieve your dream flights.

  9. I’d be interested in LAX to FRA with a layover in DOH for a day or two. With AA miles would I have to book two separate ticket with a layover or not?

  10. I just got two tickets DOH-FRA in F for our honeymoon, one more stop (flying to London) but I think it’s worth it!! So excited!!
    The worst is that, as the flight is at 8am, we are not going to have enough time to enjoy the Al Safwa lounge….

  11. I’m really looking forward to my first taste of Qatar J. I’ve booked using Qantas FF points, IAD-DOH-SYD, with 777 Q Suite followed by A380.

    My question is, once booked as a Qantas FF award ticket, is there a way of upgrading the 2nd leg (DOH-SYD A380) to F, using either cash or Qantas points? Can’t seem to find any info, any tips would be appreciated!

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