Four Seasons Venice Opening In 2024 (Marriott’s Hotel Danieli)

Four Seasons Venice Opening In 2024 (Marriott’s Hotel Danieli)

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Here’s some good news for Four Seasons fans, and bad news for Marriott fans.

Details of the upcoming Four Seasons Venice

It’s being reported in Italian media that Four Seasons will be picking up a property in Venice:

  • The 204-room Hotel Danieli, currently a Marriott Luxury Collection property, will become a Four Seasons
  • It’s expected that the hotel will undergo a 30 million EUR renovation before being converted, and French interior designer Pierre-Yves Rochon has been selected for the project
  • For the time being the hotel will maintain its current branding and will stay open (it remains to be seen if the hotel closes at some point during the renovation)
  • The hotel will become a Four Seasons upon conclusion of the renovations, in 2024
Hotel Danieli entrance

Four Seasons operates 122 hotels & resorts in some of the most popular vacation destinations in the world, but up until now the group hasn’t been able to find a suitable property in Venice.

This will be Four Seasons’ fourth property in Italy, as the group also has hotels in Florence, Milan, and Taormina (Sicily).

Hotel Danieli public spaces

Basics of Marriott’s Hotel Danieli

While it’s a shame to lose a points hotel in Venice, if it’s any consolation, Marriott has quite the footprint there. In addition to Hotel Danieli Venice (Luxury Collection), Marriott also has Gritti Palace Venice (Luxury Collection), the St. Regis Venice, and several other options that are a bit less luxurious.

Hotel Danieli is a particularly special property, though, as it’s the oldest hotel in Venice, and has been continually operating as a hotel for 200 years now. The hotel is spread out over three historic buildings, from the 14th, 17th, and 19th centuries. The property is also located close to St. Mark’s Square, Doge’s Palace, and other popular sights of Venice.

Hotel Danieli guest room

Bottom line

Four Seasons will finally be opening a property in Venice in 2024, but it’ll come at the expense of a Marriott property. Hotel Danieli, a Marriott Luxury Collection property, will be undergoing an extensive renovation, which is anticipated to cost 30 million EUR.

Four Seasons loyalists will no doubt be excited about the brand expanding to Venice, while this is definitely a loss for Marriott.

What do you make of Hotel Danieli becoming a Four Seasons? Has anyone stayed here?

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  1. B. Kerr Guest

    We stayed 5 nights at the Danieli on Bonvoy points in 2018. We were upgraded to a suite that had a Murano glass chandelier hanging over the king size bed. Where else can you find such luxury? It is sad to see Marriott lose this property, but with some hotels adding unexpected fees, jumping to dynamic pricing already and elite benefits not being offered, this is just another example of the major decline in the...

    We stayed 5 nights at the Danieli on Bonvoy points in 2018. We were upgraded to a suite that had a Murano glass chandelier hanging over the king size bed. Where else can you find such luxury? It is sad to see Marriott lose this property, but with some hotels adding unexpected fees, jumping to dynamic pricing already and elite benefits not being offered, this is just another example of the major decline in the Bonvoy program. More and more Marriott is showing that it is losing control of its properties and the brand is suffering.

  2. S E Winder Guest

    I stayed there on November and loved the history and architecture of the building. I do hope that it will not be turned into a modern lifeless hotel when it is such a beautiful and individual hotel. It will lose it's historical appeal.

  3. Marco Guest

    The refinancing to Gruppo Statuto of the ownership of the famous Hotel Danieli in Venice, one of the most prestigious hotels in the world, puts an end to the rumors about a possible handover of the famous hotel, which press sources had given close to joining the Four Seasons chain. which through Cascade Investment also has Bill Gates among its shareholders. Today the Italian group announced «the refinancing of the Hotel Danieli property in Venice....

    The refinancing to Gruppo Statuto of the ownership of the famous Hotel Danieli in Venice, one of the most prestigious hotels in the world, puts an end to the rumors about a possible handover of the famous hotel, which press sources had given close to joining the Four Seasons chain. which through Cascade Investment also has Bill Gates among its shareholders. Today the Italian group announced «the refinancing of the Hotel Danieli property in Venice. Contrary to what has emerged from recent publications - continues the note - Hotel Danieli is confirmed as part of the Group's portfolio ». The refinancing of the property took place through the issue of a bond loan. The financial transaction, which saw the involvement of two investors King Street and Starwood Capital Group - is also aimed at the future restructuring of Danieli, for which approximately euro 30 million is earmarked. Lastly, the Articles of Association specify that "the management contract with the Marriott Group - TheLuxury Collection - is fully operational and will continue regularly until its expiry".

    Translated from: https://www.ilgazzettino.it/nordest/venezia/hotel_danieli_gruppo_statuto_30_milioni_ristrutturazione_rifinanziamento_four_season_bill_gates_ultime_notizie_oggi_10_gennaio_2022-6430551.html

  4. Victoria M. Guest

    While I had a nice room when I last stayed there @ 3 years ago, the property was definitely in need of a facelift….great location….good service…lovely views…but tired….Our room was quite nice…but I saw quite a few tired rooms….
    The lobby also is very dated.

  5. Nicholas Reale Guest

    I love the Danielli hotel. The location, the service and the history of the hotel make it the best hotel in Venice. I stayed there in 2019 right before the Pandemic and the staff was amazing. The rooftop restaurant has the best views in Venice. You feel you are in Venice and experience its history. I was upgraded to a suite with my Marriott points and it was heaven. I hope the Four Seasons doesn't...

    I love the Danielli hotel. The location, the service and the history of the hotel make it the best hotel in Venice. I stayed there in 2019 right before the Pandemic and the staff was amazing. The rooftop restaurant has the best views in Venice. You feel you are in Venice and experience its history. I was upgraded to a suite with my Marriott points and it was heaven. I hope the Four Seasons doesn't remove the historical points of the Danielli and make it look like any other Four Seasons hotel in the US.

  6. Mark Michanowicz Guest

    As an American who lives here in Venice I admit I enjoy my visits to both Gritti and Danieli hotels The lobbies are very plush and can't beat rooftop views at either of the hotels. I often meet my guests at the hotels before touring them around Venice but please keep the name Danieli. Centrally located and quality care along customer service lines. Mark the American

  7. Amy Fischer Guest

    Good news. The hotel is in a prime location, however, the rooms are ancient. I like history but I don’t want a hotel room I am paying $600-$700 for per night to look ancient/outdated/old fashioned. Nice new rooms are always nice.

    Four Seasons is a great chain (I don’t like globalist BG ownership but it is what it is).

    1. BBK Diamond

      Thanks for the tidbit of the ownership of the group. Didn't knew that. Personally was planning already to stop patronizing for leaving Marriott. Now that's the icing on the cake.

  8. AHFahnestock Guest

    We have stayed at the Danieli, and think it is a HUGE mistake to give up the celebrated name. Why not the Four Seasons Danieli? Venice is abandoning its history when it comes to hotels.

  9. ECR Guest

    What exactly is a four seasons loyalists? I like four seasons properties plenty but the property joining four seasons doesn’t really get me anything.

    1. Stuart Guest

      Actually the Elite program which comes with a certain percentage of spend, is pretty nice. No, no points, but I do get daily free breakfast (including room service), a credit of $100 for a standard room (or $200 for a suite), room upgrades (which almost always happen), and late checkout. I have also noticed on a few occasions that a property waived my parking or resort fee, though it's not published as a benefit.

      ...

      Actually the Elite program which comes with a certain percentage of spend, is pretty nice. No, no points, but I do get daily free breakfast (including room service), a credit of $100 for a standard room (or $200 for a suite), room upgrades (which almost always happen), and late checkout. I have also noticed on a few occasions that a property waived my parking or resort fee, though it's not published as a benefit.

      I find it especially useful for one or two night stays at some of the more reasonably priced properties. An example is last month at the Four Seasons Las Vegas I booked a suite for one night at $375.00. With that I received a house credit of $200.00 and a free breakfast. Essentially my entire stay of room, dinner, parking, and breakfast was greatly reduced and included an upgrade to an even bigger suite. Dallas is another good spot for reasonable rates where the Elite program makes for a good value. Some of the Asian and Middle East properties it also becomes attractive. No, it means little in places like Paris or London where the rates are sky high, but if you get invited to Elite it can make for some decent benefits at other FS.

  10. Stuart Guest

    With 94% of Four Seasons owned by Bill Gates and Prince Al-Waleed there is going to be a significant acquisition format going forward. This is just the start of historic luxury properties being poached from points program chains. Isadore just turned 90, and while still a presence in FS, his conservative and slow growth strategy of the past is over. There could actually be a round of consolidation as well with luxury brands; Mandarin, Pen,...

    With 94% of Four Seasons owned by Bill Gates and Prince Al-Waleed there is going to be a significant acquisition format going forward. This is just the start of historic luxury properties being poached from points program chains. Isadore just turned 90, and while still a presence in FS, his conservative and slow growth strategy of the past is over. There could actually be a round of consolidation as well with luxury brands; Mandarin, Pen, Rocco Forte, and Aman being the most vulnerable to potentially being bought by Four Seasons. I don't ever see FS expanding with, say, lifestyle hotels. So the natural way to grow will be the acquisition of existing luxury hotels and potentially buying other luxury brands.

  11. Chucky Guest

    Love the Danieli. Stayed there twice. Magical rooftop breakfast and stunning atrium lobby. Didn’t think they could make it better but I know the Four Seasons will. Sadly will be even more expensive though.

  12. Tim Dunn Gold

    Venice just announced that it will limit the number of visitors to the city as well as how long some can stay.

    1. Ray Guest

      Announced it awhile back but there is still nothing online that gives you the option to sign up and pay the fee. Not sure when this will go into effect. Very typical of Italy but I am going back in May and have been watching.

  13. Euro Member

    Have not been to Venice but was hoping to go either this year or next year and was keeping Hotel Danieli as one of the options on my list for lodging. Was trying to decide between this and Gritti Palace and the St Regis but wanted to hear the opinions of others as to what the differences were and what their preferences were.

    That or if I should instead choose one of the SLH hotels.

    1. Arthur Guest

      I highly recommend the Ca di Dio (SLH hotel). We stayed there in September 2021 soon after it opened and had a really wonderful stay. Breakfast was amazing, the location was great for us (close enough to main sights but not somewhere that's always packed with people), the staff were very friendly and helpful, and the room was very comfortable and stylish.

      It's appealing to stay somewhere very historic like the Gritti or Danieli, but...

      I highly recommend the Ca di Dio (SLH hotel). We stayed there in September 2021 soon after it opened and had a really wonderful stay. Breakfast was amazing, the location was great for us (close enough to main sights but not somewhere that's always packed with people), the staff were very friendly and helpful, and the room was very comfortable and stylish.

      It's appealing to stay somewhere very historic like the Gritti or Danieli, but I didn't have enough points at the time. The Ca di Dio used to be a convent and part of it is from the 1400s (I think?) so it still has plenty of personality

    2. Jeff Guest

      Gritti palace hands down, better than Aman imo

    3. platy Guest

      @ Euro

      IMHO The Gritti Palace is an exceptional property and steeped in history. It is tucked just off the main "walkway" and has its bar / restaurant directly onto the Grand Canal. There is a useful traghetto (cross canal gondola ferry) just by the entrance - useful to zip across to the sights of the Dursoduro, such as the Salute (church) and Peggy Guggenheim Museum.

      In contrast, the front of the Danieli is absolutely...

      @ Euro

      IMHO The Gritti Palace is an exceptional property and steeped in history. It is tucked just off the main "walkway" and has its bar / restaurant directly onto the Grand Canal. There is a useful traghetto (cross canal gondola ferry) just by the entrance - useful to zip across to the sights of the Dursoduro, such as the Salute (church) and Peggy Guggenheim Museum.

      In contrast, the front of the Danieli is absolutely crowded, which has always put me off staying there - it might well be glorious once inside and especially if you can enjoy the rooftop facilities.

      A (cash) alternative with stunning value is the tiny 9-roomed Al Ponte Antico on the canal in Rialto. There are canal side suites at a fraction of the price of a big name hotel. It is family run and a pure delight, if lacking the facilities of a large hotel.

      I haven't stayed at the SLH properties in Venice or seen inside the St Regis since the recent renovations.

      If I was cashed up, I'd return to the Belmond Cipriani, because it is an oasis of calm from the maddening crowds of San Marco. There are plenty of local bars and restaurants on Giudecca, places where locals eat, and a lovely hotel motor boat to ferry you back and forth across the Giudecca Canal. But big cash, unless you can find a deal!

      The utilitarian option is the Hilton Molina Stucky, also on Giudecca. I've enjoyed suite upgrades as a Diamond. It has a useful rooftop bar and swimming pool. Again, all of the useful shops and eateries of Giudecca are a an easy walk along the canalside.

      Spoilt for choice!

    4. MisterKenn New Member

      I have been staying at the Gritti for over 25 years as I love Venice and go every 4-5 years to Italy and add Venice to my itinerary. The service is impeccable and the concierges are second to none. Some of the concierges have been there longer than my travels, and we recognize each other as we have all aged. The Breakfast is wonderful overlooking the canal weather permitting and it is a great place...

      I have been staying at the Gritti for over 25 years as I love Venice and go every 4-5 years to Italy and add Venice to my itinerary. The service is impeccable and the concierges are second to none. Some of the concierges have been there longer than my travels, and we recognize each other as we have all aged. The Breakfast is wonderful overlooking the canal weather permitting and it is a great place to have a drink after a day of site seeing or shopping. Only complaint I can come up with is the cost. I have always paid for my rooms as I do not stay at enough Marriott properties to get enough points. When I travelled for business, years ago, I did get enough points, but they were spent a long time back.

  14. UA-NYC Guest

    Smart move by 4S.

    And understandable the Danieli would leave an increasingly poor, anti-consumer company...Marriott is a limited service company at heart. No point in being associated with that.

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Amy Fischer Guest

Good news. The hotel is in a prime location, however, the rooms are ancient. I like history but I don’t want a hotel room I am paying $600-$700 for per night to look ancient/outdated/old fashioned. Nice new rooms are always nice. Four Seasons is a great chain (I don’t like globalist BG ownership but it is what it is).

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platy Guest

@ Euro IMHO The Gritti Palace is an exceptional property and steeped in history. It is tucked just off the main "walkway" and has its bar / restaurant directly onto the Grand Canal. There is a useful traghetto (cross canal gondola ferry) just by the entrance - useful to zip across to the sights of the Dursoduro, such as the Salute (church) and Peggy Guggenheim Museum. In contrast, the front of the Danieli is absolutely crowded, which has always put me off staying there - it might well be glorious once inside and especially if you can enjoy the rooftop facilities. A (cash) alternative with stunning value is the tiny 9-roomed Al Ponte Antico on the canal in Rialto. There are canal side suites at a fraction of the price of a big name hotel. It is family run and a pure delight, if lacking the facilities of a large hotel. I haven't stayed at the SLH properties in Venice or seen inside the St Regis since the recent renovations. If I was cashed up, I'd return to the Belmond Cipriani, because it is an oasis of calm from the maddening crowds of San Marco. There are plenty of local bars and restaurants on Giudecca, places where locals eat, and a lovely hotel motor boat to ferry you back and forth across the Giudecca Canal. But big cash, unless you can find a deal! The utilitarian option is the Hilton Molina Stucky, also on Giudecca. I've enjoyed suite upgrades as a Diamond. It has a useful rooftop bar and swimming pool. Again, all of the useful shops and eateries of Giudecca are a an easy walk along the canalside. Spoilt for choice!

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Stuart Guest

Actually the Elite program which comes with a certain percentage of spend, is pretty nice. No, no points, but I do get daily free breakfast (including room service), a credit of $100 for a standard room (or $200 for a suite), room upgrades (which almost always happen), and late checkout. I have also noticed on a few occasions that a property waived my parking or resort fee, though it's not published as a benefit. I find it especially useful for one or two night stays at some of the more reasonably priced properties. An example is last month at the Four Seasons Las Vegas I booked a suite for one night at $375.00. With that I received a house credit of $200.00 and a free breakfast. Essentially my entire stay of room, dinner, parking, and breakfast was greatly reduced and included an upgrade to an even bigger suite. Dallas is another good spot for reasonable rates where the Elite program makes for a good value. Some of the Asian and Middle East properties it also becomes attractive. No, it means little in places like Paris or London where the rates are sky high, but if you get invited to Elite it can make for some decent benefits at other FS.

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