American Airlines is having some major operational issues, as the airline is canceling hundreds of flights over the course of a few days. The airline is even going so far as to reduce its July schedule, as the carrier is unable to reliably operate the number of flights that were initially scheduled.
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American Airlines’ massive flight cancelations
Looking at published data, American has canceled over 500 flights over the previous four day period, and there’s no end in sight for these operational issues. Here are how many cancelations we’ve seen from American Airlines up until now:
- On Friday, June 18, 2021, American canceled 83 flights
- On Saturday, June 19, 2021, American canceled 123 flights
- On Sunday, June 20, 2021, American canceled 188 flights
- On Monday, June 21, 2021, American canceled 136 flights
- On Tuesday, June 22, 2021, American canceled 81 flights
- On Wednesday, June 23, 2021, American canceled 25 flights
I would expect the number of cancelations for today and beyond to continue to grow significantly, given that the underlying problem hasn’t been fixed, and also given the domino effect of flight cancelations.
With these numbers of cancelations, it’s not a good time to have a ticket booked on American Airlines. The phone hold times to speak to a reservations agent are many hours long, and I’ve heard of some very long lines at American Airlines customer service desks at airports.
American Airlines cutting 1% of July schedule
The operational issues don’t just impact flights this past weekend, but they’re expected to be ongoing. So American Airlines is proactively canceling roughly 1% of flights in July. By canceling these flights proactively, American hopes that last minute cancelations can be avoided next month, so that the airline can better take care of customers and employees, and minimize surprises at the airport.
American is strategically canceling flights, targeting markets where the smallest number of customers are impacted. This is done by primarily canceling flights in markets where there are multiple options for customers to be re-accommodated. So if you have any American flights in July, keep a close eye on your reservation, as you may notice a schedule change.
What’s the cause of American Airlines flight cancelations?
Officially, here’s how an American Airlines spokesperson explains the reasons for these cancelations:
“The first few weeks of June have brought unprecedented weather to our largest hubs, heavily impacting our operation and causing delays, canceled flights and disruptions to crew member schedules and our customers’ plans. That, combined with the labor shortages some of our vendors are contending with and the incredibly quick ramp up of customer demand, has led us to build in additional resilience and certainty to our operation by adjusting a fraction of our scheduled flying through mid-July.”
While American Airlines mentions “unprecedented” weather as the first reason, the much more significant issue involves labor shortages. That’s also evident because a majority of cancelations have listed “flight crew unavailable” as the reason for the cancelation. What exactly is going on there?
Cancelations are primarily focused on the Boeing 737 fleet, which suggests that the crewing issues are primarily related to pilots rather than flight attendants (since pilots are rated on a specific type of aircraft, while flight attendants are generally trained on all mainline aircraft).
The best explanation I’ve heard up until now is that American is having pilot shortages that are primarily impacting the 737 fleet. Specifically, the airline is experiencing delays with getting pilots certified on the Boeing 737, after many pilots are being switched to this fleet, or otherwise just took a leave of absence during the pandemic. Also keep in mind that the number of 737s flying recently increased significantly, as American brought its 737 MAX fleet back into service.
Admittedly the pandemic has been extremely challenging for airlines logistically, and that particularly impacts pilot staffing. That’s because when airlines grounded their planes at the start of the pandemic, many pilots ended up being retrained on new types of aircraft (based on seniority), and that’s a time consuming process that doesn’t happen overnight. It can take weeks for a pilot to get certified on a new aircraft type, and at the moment airlines are having to retrain more pilots than ever before.
We saw Delta have several operational meltdowns over holidays during the pandemic due to pilot shortages, but other than that there have been surprisingly few problems for American or United.
But that’s not the only labor shortage, based on my understanding. American is apparently short staffed in just about every way at this point, including with rampers, gate agents, and more.
I do find it interesting that American’s operation fell apart in mid-June, rather than over a specific major holiday, like Thanksgiving, July 4th, Christmas, etc., when airline operations are typically pushed to the limit. This clearly shows how much demand for travel has picked up in recent weeks, and it’s reflected in the number of travelers being screened by the TSA.
At least in the case of this past weekend’s operational issues, one also can’t rule out that some people may have called in sick for Father’s Day, especially as more people are starting to be able to live their lives again.
Bottom line
American Airlines is having some serious operational issues. The airline has canceled over 500 flights over the past four days, and the issues are continuing. We should expect more cancelations over the coming days, and on top of that American will reduce its July schedule by around 1%, to get out ahead of these issues.
These cancelations seem to primarily come down to labor shortages, with the biggest problem being a lack of qualified pilots (due to pilots not being trained to fly the correct aircraft), but there are also shortages with other labor groups.
Are any OMAAT readers impacted by these operational issues at American?
I have a flight on American on Dec 22 going from San Diego to Charlotte N.C. This trip is very important to me. I wonder if they'll be able to correct these flights by then. If they were saying the weather was bad in June, what the heck are they going to say about December?!
I was flying out of Dallas to Amsterdam August 17th. American Airlines cancelled 100 flights that day due to weather. Strangely enough British Air or other flights didn't have the same weather out of Dallas. After the original cancelled flight they put us on another American flight. When we got on that plane I asked the attendant if we were taking off and was told they were waiting the arrival of two pilots. Needless to...
I was flying out of Dallas to Amsterdam August 17th. American Airlines cancelled 100 flights that day due to weather. Strangely enough British Air or other flights didn't have the same weather out of Dallas. After the original cancelled flight they put us on another American flight. When we got on that plane I asked the attendant if we were taking off and was told they were waiting the arrival of two pilots. Needless to say that flight was cancelled too. Prior to this happening I booked a flight to NYC and am quite concerned that this Airline is having internal problems and the same thing will happen.
If these cancellations are due to staffing issues, which could be foreseen by the airline. How is this not a case of false advertising?
There have been a few news sources now that have published the letter that Philadelphia based AA pilots received from their unions explaining that they don’t foresee staffing keeping up with demand through Dec 2021. If that’s the case, and AA management knows this, should the public not be calling...
If these cancellations are due to staffing issues, which could be foreseen by the airline. How is this not a case of false advertising?
There have been a few news sources now that have published the letter that Philadelphia based AA pilots received from their unions explaining that they don’t foresee staffing keeping up with demand through Dec 2021. If that’s the case, and AA management knows this, should the public not be calling them out on this false advertising? Isn’t it convenient that they are blaming the issues on weather so that they don’t have to put people up in hotels, etc?
https://www-forbes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed/2021/06/26/american-airlines-says-scheduling-problems-are-summer-only-issue--philly-pilots-say-they-could-linger/amp/
They laid off too many Pilots last year and now they can't get them back into training fast enough. They also closed the Flight Academy down in Charlotte which is adding to the chaos. This Airline is so mismanaged that everybody at the top should be fired.
What airports is this effecting?
I am heading to Nairobi for a long-planned safari with friends in July. The flight cancelations I have faced have been code-shares with British Air, but, yes, wait times for AA customer service have been hellacious, from 4 to 8 hours.
Hello! Speaking as a member of one of the classes that got sent home from training because of the virus, WE WANT TO COME BACK. Like yesterday. Please don’t blame the employees! Most of us would give anything to be back in the sky!
Worst Airline ever!!!!!!
Ben, thank you so much for posting this article. I am in the middle of a business trip and traveling several flights on AA. You explained why things are going wrong before the media did. AA staff is as friendly and helpful and professional as can be during these times. I don’t know why AA posted my flights as available two months ago when I booked them if they didn’t plan to have sufficiently trained...
Ben, thank you so much for posting this article. I am in the middle of a business trip and traveling several flights on AA. You explained why things are going wrong before the media did. AA staff is as friendly and helpful and professional as can be during these times. I don’t know why AA posted my flights as available two months ago when I booked them if they didn’t plan to have sufficiently trained pilots available. Keep up the good work! And thank you for recommending Blacklane. DEN was a madhouse at baggage claim, but Blacklane was there for me.
Can you write a little bit about what to do as someone who has had a flight changed by American and lost part of what they purchased? I had purchased Premium Economy seats on the side of the plane (just 2 seats wide) - when American then cancelled our flight from PHL-BCL and stuck us in the middle row of 4.
Very annoyed as the only reason I paid for Premium economy is for...
Can you write a little bit about what to do as someone who has had a flight changed by American and lost part of what they purchased? I had purchased Premium Economy seats on the side of the plane (just 2 seats wide) - when American then cancelled our flight from PHL-BCL and stuck us in the middle row of 4.
Very annoyed as the only reason I paid for Premium economy is for the privacy of being just us 2 next to each other (Covid and all). They say the flight they put us on (MIA-BCL) is our only option and hinted that we can't get a refund if we cancel and book on another airline that has the open 2 seats.
I can't be the only person with this issue!
Oh no, entitled Americans can’t enjoy their pleasure trips. So sad.
I will add that I read that a certain airline was concerned about "vaccinated" people flying because of blood clots. Yea, it a thing and the shot doesn't keep you from getting or transmitting covid. Sorry. Look at the fine print. You did know this is experimental, never done on humans. It was used under the emergency act if nothing else was available. So they successfully killed thousands of Americans by censoring ivermectin, HCQ, etcso...
I will add that I read that a certain airline was concerned about "vaccinated" people flying because of blood clots. Yea, it a thing and the shot doesn't keep you from getting or transmitting covid. Sorry. Look at the fine print. You did know this is experimental, never done on humans. It was used under the emergency act if nothing else was available. So they successfully killed thousands of Americans by censoring ivermectin, HCQ, etcso they could promote un unapproved injection that many are heavily vested in. Sew it not about our health. It never was. The media did a full course censorship. So now 1000 international lawyers and over 40,000 doctors, scientists have filed a lawsuit against the WHO, CDC, WEF for crimes against humanity.
I don't know about pilot or crew shortages but the experimental unapproved mRNA injection has so far caused about 5000 deaths and about 200,000 severe adverse reactions, many disabling. This is according to the government's own VAERS which is underreported and now "3 month backlogged. This injection according to Dr Michael Yeardon, 32 year career at Pfizer and 14 yesterday VP and chief scientist along with world renowned scientists call this a dangerous biography that...
I don't know about pilot or crew shortages but the experimental unapproved mRNA injection has so far caused about 5000 deaths and about 200,000 severe adverse reactions, many disabling. This is according to the government's own VAERS which is underreported and now "3 month backlogged. This injection according to Dr Michael Yeardon, 32 year career at Pfizer and 14 yesterday VP and chief scientist along with world renowned scientists call this a dangerous biography that will cause massive deaths, autoimmune, death clots, death bleeding, etc. He has spoken publicly along with Nobel prize winners in science and vaccines and is being censored. This is well documented. Sorry. Our public health talking heads are criminals and corrupt. They also censored ivermectin, HCQ, which absolutely works. As Dr. HARVEY Ritsch, Yale epidemiologist said, "no one should have died from covid. Go look at how successful Mexico, India, Argentina was with treatments that were safe and inexpensive.
F**k off back to Parler or 8Kun or wherever conspiracy site you come from
Not reported here by OP, but the AA website has been working only sporadically for the past 72 hours. Booking and re-booking flight tabs are largely unavailable. I've been AAdvantage Platinum for more than a decade and never seen this airline so messed up. And this is on the back of all their flight cancellations which necessitate the website being up and functional. Since, of course, even the AA Platinum Desk is not answering calls...
Not reported here by OP, but the AA website has been working only sporadically for the past 72 hours. Booking and re-booking flight tabs are largely unavailable. I've been AAdvantage Platinum for more than a decade and never seen this airline so messed up. And this is on the back of all their flight cancellations which necessitate the website being up and functional. Since, of course, even the AA Platinum Desk is not answering calls for help and the pre-recorded message helpfully offers that someone will "call you back in more than 4 hours." But HEY, there's a bright side - by using the callback system "you will not lose your place in line..."
The DOT released their latest Air Travel Consumer Report and it shows that for the month of April, the lates for which the DOT has released data, American, United and Southwest all hovered around 88% on-time which would normally be very commendable. However, Delta ended up in the #1 spot at 93%.
For 2020 and the first quarter of 2021, American, United and Southwest continued the pre-covid trends of underperforming Delta and/or Alaska and...
The DOT released their latest Air Travel Consumer Report and it shows that for the month of April, the lates for which the DOT has released data, American, United and Southwest all hovered around 88% on-time which would normally be very commendable. However, Delta ended up in the #1 spot at 93%.
For 2020 and the first quarter of 2021, American, United and Southwest continued the pre-covid trends of underperforming Delta and/or Alaska and Hawaiian in both on-time and lowest cancellation ratios. Flight tracking sites show that to be true into May and June.
Unlike any other airline during the covid era, American is impacting hundreds of thousands of customers and continuing operational issues that started weeks ago.
Maybe AA wants to make sure that the 737 MAXs are crewed by super competent pilots. That tells me that the MAX is still a risky bet.
What happened to all the bailout cash?
We flew 4 times on AA the first two weeks of this month, and not only did every flight leave/arrive on time, we arrived 30 minutes early for the 2nd one, and 24 minutes early on the 3rd one. Every FA and every passenger conducted themselves in an exemplary manner. We have never had a problem flying AA in more than 40 years of flying. Having said this, though, I do think the company needs new management, starting at the tip-top.
I flew last weekend, on outbound - I missed the connection due to flight diverted around weather - but myself and others still arrived at the departure gate before departure time - but all agents had disappeared, after departure time all three of them came out of the jet bridge. Seems like AA has a policy - if they are going to close the flight early and they are know people will make the connection...
I flew last weekend, on outbound - I missed the connection due to flight diverted around weather - but myself and others still arrived at the departure gate before departure time - but all agents had disappeared, after departure time all three of them came out of the jet bridge. Seems like AA has a policy - if they are going to close the flight early and they are know people will make the connection near but before departure - all gate agents go to the plane or wait behind the door - so that a gate agent that might remain at the gate doesn't let people through.
On return my flight to DCA was diverted to RDU and required overnight - even though other diversions were to IAD. Oh well. Not to smooth on my side.
UNITED rising once again
In terms of grammar and coherent thought, this might be the single amazing comment thread at OMAAT that I've ever read. It's really a wonder to behold.
Agreed. I especially appreciate the comments rooted in science and reason, clearly well thought through!
Clearly!
This thread makes me weep for humanity.
I hate to say it, but it might be time for Lucky to roll up the Comments section.
I have some relatives flying from Dallas DFW to Atlanta on July 2nd (Friday), which is scheduled on an A321, and they just received an email saying that they would find out 4 days before their flight if it will operate. AA's explanation was the same, due to staff shortages at every point in DFW (which the rep said was the most affected city). I find it interesting that they got this email for a flight on an Airbus...
I flew from Atlanta to Miami this morning on the 737MAX with the flight originally scheduled for 6am. It first got delayed to 7am and then 9am. I was able to switch my flight to another one at 7:30am on an A319 (with the nice interiors). Ultimately, my original flight arrived 3 1/2 hours late.
If AA and other airlines dont have enough pilots or other crew, or employees then don't schedule the flights. Its that simple. I and hundreds of others were on a flight cancelled right before boarding. Because of unspecified crew reasons. The airline and employees know in advance if the plane can't fly. We were not paid expensive round trip cab fare to the distant hotel.
Flights might be cancelled due to geomagnetic activity, interfering with HF radio communications and GPS. Watch for cancellations on July 4th. NOOA has a weather page and a solar/geomagnetic storm page as well, for the public. Everyone wants to be safe.
Simple question: why are the airlines booking flights when they knew(apparently) that it would take time to ramp up staff, logistics, etc? Why not schedule fewer flights rather than canceling them afterwards? Also, couldn’t increased demand have been predicted as things began to open up months ago?
Does this mean that the taxpayers should demand AA to pay back the bailout money they've received in exchange for "keeping staff on payroll" coz it's now apparent that AA never did that??
@Lucky I just read an article on CNN that American expects to see these types of cancellations through July 15.
I think there is more than just pilots being home with family....i think pilots dont want to fly that kind of 737 max plane with all its known dangerous glitches ..that pilots know have not really been fixed..or worst cannot be fixed..also american is probably demanding pilots and other flight crew take those shots..many plane crew people are just like alot of the public..they dont want or trust those covid vacines and do not plan...
I think there is more than just pilots being home with family....i think pilots dont want to fly that kind of 737 max plane with all its known dangerous glitches ..that pilots know have not really been fixed..or worst cannot be fixed..also american is probably demanding pilots and other flight crew take those shots..many plane crew people are just like alot of the public..they dont want or trust those covid vacines and do not plan on ever taking them..so american wont let them come to work ..hence the shortages
They don't have enough mechanics either. Specifically entry level guys to do tires and Brakes and the other menial tasks required to free up the experienced guys to do the problem solving needed on the more complex systems. The new guys are still kicking it at home on unemployment delaying the final tests until the checks stop.
We were a casualty of the cancelled flights. Our Friday night flight from Honolulu landed in Phoenix at 8 am. Our flight to St. Louis got cancelled. We spent the remaining 17 hours going to Grand Junction, CO, Dallas and then St. Louis and the another 1.5 drive home to finally be in bed at 3:30 am…. Without luggage, which hopefully is going to be delivered Monday morning.
Upside is that we are safely from a great vacation!
Airline travel has become a Freak Show. I don't want to see your Tramp Stamps , yoga pants , or your fake eyelashes. Cover your belly buttons and your bOObs.
Oh yeah, you think you are beautiful. Wrong! I will use Netjets for my next trip to Alaska and stay there.
My goodness! Lots of engagements oh my! Where’s my popcorn? AA complaints and anti-vaxers galore! Who knew OMAAT commenting area can be this entertaining?
A standard thread like this should not have 300+ replies…
American Airlines has the worst customer service in the airline industry!! The way that they treat their unionized employees I'd call in sick on holidays and spend time with their families!! I wouldn't fly on American Airlines even if it was free they screw their customers anytime you cancel a reservation with their outrageous fees!! It's not the employees but their management and they way they treat customers is horrible!!
Just got an email from AA that my flight in SEPTEMBER is being canceled. WTF?
Vegas, DFW, or Houston
Yep tried to reschedule a trip 2weeks ago but could not get through ended up buying another ticket because the hold time was literally 2 hour minimal!
AA couldn't run their operation very well before the pandemic, it shouldn't be any surprise that its poor performance is more obvious now. I've gone to greener grass after too many flight cancelations and even not making my destination for the day scheduled with AA. If you cannot fly out of two major hubs (Vegas or DFS) without issues, then you don't need to be in business. Sorry, Not sorry...
It's possible that pilots refuse to fly 737max
My guess is that there is more cases of coronavirus coming up now that everyone is flying and spreading to other states of countries so maybe they are canceling flights to suppress it but they are telling you that so that people don't get scared.
Time to start paying livable wages it expect this to continue.
Good! Karma for robbing passengers with fuel surcharges and not reducing them when the price waned. Stay grounded!
Start paying them better then more people will become Pilots
I have a flight on the 4th hopefully they don’t cancel
Maybe pilots don't trust the 737?
Two friends of mine are pilots, one for UPS to be a domestic airline. The airlines wanted to save their profits so they offered early retirement, time off at partial pay, and other incentives not to work. Now they need people back & many just don’t want to return.
We haven’t seen nothing yet we all have amnesia about the mandatory age 65 forced retirement and the US does not have a healthy pipeline of up coming pilots to fill the shortage.We might all be supplementing Amtrak/Greyhound soon. These airlines received billions of dollars in government money and the government should have made the Airlines purchase a Flight School to train pilots for free instead of the $80-100 K burden that it takes to...
We haven’t seen nothing yet we all have amnesia about the mandatory age 65 forced retirement and the US does not have a healthy pipeline of up coming pilots to fill the shortage.We might all be supplementing Amtrak/Greyhound soon. These airlines received billions of dollars in government money and the government should have made the Airlines purchase a Flight School to train pilots for free instead of the $80-100 K burden that it takes to become a pilot on your own dime. Free Flight Training now is the only hope to fill the gap.These new young people can sit at home and make a decent living with a college degree rather than work weekends,Holidays, and be away from your significant other for 3-6 day rotation trips.I am a Flight Attendant with 23 years of service and I could be a pilot myself for the remaining 22 years of my career but I’m not going in debt at 43 years of age and yes we have lots of young fresh Flight Attendants that would make great pilots but they feel the same way about going into debt and starting all over again.
Comment regarding American airlines flight cancellations:
My fiancee and I were both cancelled for our flight from Charlotte, N.C. to Dallas for June 30, 2021, Wednesday and rerouted to Phoenix, Arizona with a 3 hour lay over to catch our flight to Burbank, CA. We booked our flights at different times in May thru Expedia and was notified by American Airlines just a couple of days ago of the flight changes. The time changes...
Comment regarding American airlines flight cancellations:
My fiancee and I were both cancelled for our flight from Charlotte, N.C. to Dallas for June 30, 2021, Wednesday and rerouted to Phoenix, Arizona with a 3 hour lay over to catch our flight to Burbank, CA. We booked our flights at different times in May thru Expedia and was notified by American Airlines just a couple of days ago of the flight changes. The time changes will bring us home at 4:42pm , right in the worst traffic time for the SFV. Hopefully, they don't go ahead and cancel the flights completely.
Where have you been?
2 weekends ago AA cancelled all three flights from Dallas to New Orleans scheduled from 8:30 to 10:30 p.m. on a Sunday nite.
I,was on 8:45 flight and it got cancelled,before my flight from Eugene landed. I was bumped,to the 10:30 flight without explanation that they did not move me to the 9:30 flight. They loaded the 9:30 flight who,sat there for an hour b4 unloading,claiming the door was broken...but passengers...
Where have you been?
2 weekends ago AA cancelled all three flights from Dallas to New Orleans scheduled from 8:30 to 10:30 p.m. on a Sunday nite.
I,was on 8:45 flight and it got cancelled,before my flight from Eugene landed. I was bumped,to the 10:30 flight without explanation that they did not move me to the 9:30 flight. They loaded the 9:30 flight who,sat there for an hour b4 unloading,claiming the door was broken...but passengers hear stewardesses complaing that they had timed out and could no longer leave the ground. So, that pilot could not fly again that night.
When they unloaded that flight the desk attendant then anounces to all...had just spoke to him and he did not tell me this...they were still looking for a pilot for the 10:30 flight which had already been moved to 11:15, then to 11:45, then to 12:15 am.
So, I had sat there from 8:30 to midnight without anyone telling me that they had bumped me to a flight which never had a pilot...and made me sit there that whole time when I could have gotten a hotel at Aa's expense. At 1:30 am they an ounces flight was cancelled and oh by the way, we have no airport hotels to put anyone in. Had to sleep in the airport.
Could it be CYBER ATTACKS on the airlines? Last week it was SOUTHWEST
All I can say is, the problems started for me Tues the 15 that was to fly out of Oklahoma @2:30 connect Dallas be home Fresno 6:40 with all the mishaps by American airlines as a disabled passenger expense of having to purchase another ticket, not happy to say the least it left a bad taste in my mouth ,mostly from the rude treatment by employees and lack of customer service,personally I did feel bad...
All I can say is, the problems started for me Tues the 15 that was to fly out of Oklahoma @2:30 connect Dallas be home Fresno 6:40 with all the mishaps by American airlines as a disabled passenger expense of having to purchase another ticket, not happy to say the least it left a bad taste in my mouth ,mostly from the rude treatment by employees and lack of customer service,personally I did feel bad for the one person out of the three that did do his best to calm the situation and try to resolve some of the issues, I was finally able to make it home by wed at noon,but being in a wheelchair without any help it was more than a challenge. Please anyone from customer service feel free to reach out, but it's very doubtful I will be choosing American airlines ever again, I'm a fast learner and that was a very expensive lesson.
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My flight was canceled and now the flight I'm on sucks. No longer want to take this vacation.
No doubt as the airlines struggle to get back to greater capacity demands, we will see similar situations...not unlike some of the supply-demand imbalances in many other industries.
America has repeated all the footsteps of rome even to feminism. America is about to collapse there are no rewards in society and there's so much bureaucracy Men are walking away. Furthermore, requiring people to receive a dna altering "vaccine" that splices your DNA with luciferase and nanotechnology to track you and eventually control your mind, emotions and body. All for a "flu" that killed less than the actual flu, it's clear for world governments...
America has repeated all the footsteps of rome even to feminism. America is about to collapse there are no rewards in society and there's so much bureaucracy Men are walking away. Furthermore, requiring people to receive a dna altering "vaccine" that splices your DNA with luciferase and nanotechnology to track you and eventually control your mind, emotions and body. All for a "flu" that killed less than the actual flu, it's clear for world governments want domination over populations and majority of citizens want tyranny as well.
That is standard operating procedure for AAL. They stiffed me many times cancelling flights. I will never ever fly on AAL even if the tickets were free.
Marie why do you say “insider information”?
That info is readily available and facts.
When you're forced to get the jab, AND fly the 737Max, is ANYONE surprised by the lack of flight crews?
I don't trust a vaccine that is not been studied or experienced in animals not in humans at least from 10years.
I flew with American less then two weeks ago. The service was outstanding and I had an entire row to myself. It was a beautiful experience. A lovely flight. Only 20 people onboard.
AA sucks big time. I had to use Spirit once and I never went through what I did with American. Sat on the plane for 4 hours straight. No ac no internet nothing but dry pretzels and cookies oh and water the flight attendant cuffed under her armpit to pour people a cup. Tacky to the 10th power. Lastly out luggage was left in the rain for 3 hours so once we finally landed everything was soak and wet. NEVER AGAIN!!
Why did AA book the flights in the first place if they didn’t have the crew to support it? I say You’re Fired!
One more thing……it wasn’t enough that their passengers were stressed and frayed. They were still able to make threatening announcements concerning masks. Why can’t they politely remind people that masks are required. They instead make threats of throwing one off the plane and banning them FOREVER! Everyone was compliant…..there was no pushback. It makes a customer an inmate. They used to be glad to have customers.
I was on one of the Delta flights delayed more than 5 hours last Tuesday, 6/15/2021 flying from Los Angeles to Albuquerque. The reason Delta gave was same as you are saying in your article, but they took it further. What I was told by Delta employee working the service desk at LAX was that our flight was delayed because we were waiting on a crew for our flight. The reason they were delayed was...
I was on one of the Delta flights delayed more than 5 hours last Tuesday, 6/15/2021 flying from Los Angeles to Albuquerque. The reason Delta gave was same as you are saying in your article, but they took it further. What I was told by Delta employee working the service desk at LAX was that our flight was delayed because we were waiting on a crew for our flight. The reason they were delayed was the record high temperatures at airport in Arizona (want to say Phoenix but I'm not 100% sure on that) and they were temporarily grounded due to tarmac being so hot the wheels on the aircraft were in danger of melting. Considering the heat wave so many of us have recently, and still are, experiencing, I tend to believe the explanation.
Could this be pilots not wanting to fly the 'safe' 737Max?
The most realistic reason for all the delays and cancelations are probably due to the fact that the American people are so obnoxious and so rude and so violent. It seems that being an airline Employee is extremely dangerous for your health. Look at all of the attacks and such. Grow up.
Unfortunate that American prioritized their flights. I was on 2 of them. I may never fly commercial again. I WILL NEVER FLY AMERICAN AGAIN! Their flight attendants are normally aloof and rude in the past, but yesterday was the worst. Rude to everyone, not just me. The pilots were flying like retired Kamikazee pilots. Marginally safe take offs and wild maneuvers to close to the ground. I was a pilot in my day and I’ve never been uneasy in the air. I was yesterday!
Maybe they shouldnt be over crowding the planes and still scaring people with covid. Being shoved in a pact plane with a mask on for hours is not healthy or safe. Will never fly or promote american airlines again. Horrible experience. Oh but heres your hand full of open bag pretzels and cup of warm water..enjoy.
Another consideration is that weekends have high sick calls. There’s never enough reserves.
I just flew AA from Santiago, Dominican Republic to Miami and it went 100 % perfect.
Antivaxxers are crazy! POLIO SMALL POX the onlu reason why you didn't get them is a mandatory global vaccination effort was able to eradicate them.
Believe in SCIENCE!
Thank you for this informative article. Not sure who is to blame but the word cancellations is continuously misspelled!
First the stress of the absured demands of the mask on the whole flight . Im glade the airlines experincese are going to result in a great financial loss but they always get Bailouts from the government our tax money . International Flight Attendant
Maybe more like computer hacking? Just wondering.
How, then, microbiologist, do you explains the trillions of people that have had the virus and survived ? We have the anitibodies, jus like the “faxed” people. Are we not immune also?
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My wife booked a flight to Miami for Father’s Day today from San Antonio. Our flight was canceled and the people at the AA counter at the airport were rude. And because of that cancellation, we arrived in Miami five hours later and we were charged by Marriott Stanton for $800. What’s worse, they gave our room to someone else. THANKS AMERICAN AIRLINES you just ruined my wife and my 8-year old son’s surprise for me.
Q isn’t a thing anymore you know…it was just a guy named Ron Watkins.
When pilots call in sick but are not really sick, this is fraud and abuse. (The article implies that some pilots may be calling in sick because it is Father's Day.)
I have not seen my grandkids in a year and a half… My youngest daughter turns 30 today… I was “canceled” yesterday… I was looking forward to this trip for three months… It was only for three days… They had booked me for a flight Sunday because 590 canceled Saturday morning after arriving at the airport checking my bags… Then learning 30 minutes before the original flight was to depart… Only to be canceled… I...
I have not seen my grandkids in a year and a half… My youngest daughter turns 30 today… I was “canceled” yesterday… I was looking forward to this trip for three months… It was only for three days… They had booked me for a flight Sunday because 590 canceled Saturday morning after arriving at the airport checking my bags… Then learning 30 minutes before the original flight was to depart… Only to be canceled… I did get a free bloody Mary out of the deal… No use spending $1100 for a flight and only visiting for two days…C’est la vie! Life will never be the same again!
Our flight was canceled with no apparent reason. When we arrived at McCarran Airport headed to Miami our original flight was due to leave at 11:45 p.m. on June 15th it was canceled and we left on June 16th arriving in Miami at 8 p.m. American Airlines caused us to miss a whole day of planned birthday events. Also we had delay after delay on our return flight.
Learn how to spell cancellation !
Marie: good for you, more of us need to demand the truth. Our government leaders are failing and the corporations are soon to follow.
My flight to Key West from San Diego for Sept.25th was cancelled my flight was to leave SD around 10:00 am , however they changed it to leave at 12:15 am (midnight) out of Los Angeles!!! Who ever heard of an airline doing that. Drive from SD to LAX is two hours on a good day. This is more than rediculous!!! Tried calling yesterday (Saturday) they will call me back on Monday at 10:00 am...
My flight to Key West from San Diego for Sept.25th was cancelled my flight was to leave SD around 10:00 am , however they changed it to leave at 12:15 am (midnight) out of Los Angeles!!! Who ever heard of an airline doing that. Drive from SD to LAX is two hours on a good day. This is more than rediculous!!! Tried calling yesterday (Saturday) they will call me back on Monday at 10:00 am (maybe). This has nothing to do with 737 planes and airline training. They are taking advantage of the general public because they are mismanaging the company and are tooooo cheap to hire more people. I really feel terrible for all the senior travelers. I will Never book American again. The best airline is Southwest, very customer oriented!!!! Never had to wait more then 10 minutes for a callback. Here is to Southwest
Makes no sense
You don't lose your knowledge of one thing because you are being retrained on another. Maybe AA is forcing pilots to take vaccine? Maybe the public has decided flying is unsafe after seeing so many videos of people being assaulted on planes by staff or other passengers that driving makes more sense? Maybe planes are filthy, the pilots are now being hired not by merit but by diversity.....are the airlines crazy????
The pilots probably don't want to fly the 737 Max.
To Marie
The article about the 4 healthy pilots dying after receiving their second injection of V was in a British newspaper called “The Liberty Daily” published June 17/21 by JD Rucker in response to a British Airways tweet and was verified by Reuters. British Airways and the government are in emergency talks regarding the “Delta variant” which began spreading Britain like wild fire which was actually more potent among the vaccinated. This is...
To Marie
The article about the 4 healthy pilots dying after receiving their second injection of V was in a British newspaper called “The Liberty Daily” published June 17/21 by JD Rucker in response to a British Airways tweet and was verified by Reuters. British Airways and the government are in emergency talks regarding the “Delta variant” which began spreading Britain like wild fire which was actually more potent among the vaccinated. This is not a conspiracy theory!
TheMRNA vaccine is pooling spike proteins in bone marrow and ovaries. The media is suppressing the info.
Just got off from vacation in Florida. The week I was there, I know Southwest Airlines had there booking system go down. Luckily, I wasn't affected. However, on my return trip, from Phoenix to San Jose, our flight was delayed 45 minutes because 1 pilot and 1 flight attendant were late. Interestingly enough, that plane was a 737. Maybe this pilot certification issue is more widespread? Definitely, staffing related though.
Well… they also had a pretty big sum of ground workers quite too. Something like 50 in DFW alone. One gate agent per flight is what I was told drove most to decide it just isn’t worth the stress, or abuse given by both the Airlines and their passengers. They need to wake up to the post pandemic mindset. The tables have turned, and companies, like American, have to realize, “they need us, more than...
Well… they also had a pretty big sum of ground workers quite too. Something like 50 in DFW alone. One gate agent per flight is what I was told drove most to decide it just isn’t worth the stress, or abuse given by both the Airlines and their passengers. They need to wake up to the post pandemic mindset. The tables have turned, and companies, like American, have to realize, “they need us, more than we need them.” Now is not the time to cut staff, to save a buck. This will the Americans undoing.
Did anyone read InsiderInfo's post??? A 1/3 staff reduction is a big deal and IS why so many MORE flights are being cancelled. The thing is, this isn't a shocker by any means, just about every service in this country is trying restart the economy with a burned out workforce stretched too thin, unless you live in a different world than I.
I sympathize with everyone who's had their travel plans ruined by AA, but this is nothing new. AA has been terrible for over 2 decades and they just keep getting worse, but there's a simple solution that will put an end to Doug Parker's reign of terror once and for all. STOP BOOKING AA ! Vote with your wallet and don't take the bait when they dangle those sub-100 dollar fares in front of your...
I sympathize with everyone who's had their travel plans ruined by AA, but this is nothing new. AA has been terrible for over 2 decades and they just keep getting worse, but there's a simple solution that will put an end to Doug Parker's reign of terror once and for all. STOP BOOKING AA ! Vote with your wallet and don't take the bait when they dangle those sub-100 dollar fares in front of your nose. People keep falling for this trick over and over and this is why their awful service never changes. Sure it's going to be inconvenient for a while during the adjustment period as you find alternatives to AA, but is that really any worse than what you've had to put up with when you try to get somewhere on one of their flights ? Come on America, stand up for yourselves and solve this problem !
When you look behind the curtain and see what airline has the greatest debt service, it's a no brainer. My question... Who is going to buy them? United or Delta? Major airlines aren't surviving.
Not just happening this weekend. Our flight was canceled last weekend. It was a disaster. Luggage made it to destination before we did. Giving us credit for flight but I want refund plus money we spent because of cancellation. Completely unacceptable.
This is all greed. Covid Bailout money long gone. Airlines likely working on another bailout package to present to the govt. by this fall. They really don’t need it, but it’s coming. They are now setting the table with “the problems”. We know. We’ve seen the work up to it before. Just a repainted version of the last few airline bailouts over the past years. Sad. We need better, newer, friendlier, less crowds. No more free money for the airlines.
Well I’m not surprise I had a flight last Monday they canceled After waiting for 7 hours they switch the fly for Tuesday
When I show up on Tuesday they telling me then I don’t have a reservation for Tuesday so after three more hours waiting Jetblue save the day I got me a flight to Austin
Is it maybe 737 issues all around?
I'm not surprised, their customer service has gone to heck. They flew me to DFW 2 weekends ago, refused to let 9 of us on our connecting flight, and then left us stranded. Did absolutely nothing to help me and told me I wasn't their problem. Silly me, I assumed when I pay for a flight home you'll do everything to get me there...not AA though, they told me maybe 4 or 5 days later...
I'm not surprised, their customer service has gone to heck. They flew me to DFW 2 weekends ago, refused to let 9 of us on our connecting flight, and then left us stranded. Did absolutely nothing to help me and told me I wasn't their problem. Silly me, I assumed when I pay for a flight home you'll do everything to get me there...not AA though, they told me maybe 4 or 5 days later they could get me on another flight. Big shout out to Southwest Airlines for stepping up and getting me home the next day! @SouthwestAirlines rocks!
OR save their life by them not getting the vax. I'm 2 months away from being 70, had a horrible case of COVID 19, that actually lasted 3 weeks before I tested negative, still have long COVID over 6 months later, and wouldn't touch any if those vacines with a ten foot poll!!
And you’re lucky you didn’t die given your age…the vaccines help PRECISELY to avoid what you went through. SMH.
I pay a ticket in main cabin and they put me on the last seat,people are rude,poor attention.
Thank you Bruce for correcting misinformation. I was struggling to see why that comment about the pilots even needed to be said…talk about agendas!
God willing, not because of more dead pilots...
Dear airlines: we bailed you out the second week of COVID in 2020 because you cried and lost billions. You begged for a bailout (yet, another one) because you can’t keep your balance sheets in order. Who runs out of money within two weeks? You cried when fuel prices skyrocketed and charged us for our bags, created angry passengers at the gates because nobody wants to pay for checking their bags. You continue to treat...
Dear airlines: we bailed you out the second week of COVID in 2020 because you cried and lost billions. You begged for a bailout (yet, another one) because you can’t keep your balance sheets in order. Who runs out of money within two weeks? You cried when fuel prices skyrocketed and charged us for our bags, created angry passengers at the gates because nobody wants to pay for checking their bags. You continue to treat us like crap. We’re tired of it. We all can’t stand your executive greed. If we all had wings we would fly. But we do not. So we ask for some kindness. You are the ones flying too close to the sun, and we will no longer go down with you. Don’t ask us for anymore money, give us our rights back, more space, two free checked bags, and maybe we will consider feeling slightly sorry for you. Right now, nobody does and we secretly wish you would go completely broke, bankrupt, and never fly again. You make us all airsick without stepping foot on a plane.
Oh no. Not American Airlines! I guess people have lives to live but still!
I apologize, but I dont see anywhere in this article regarding pilots dying after being vaccinated.
I have noticed a lot news being reported based on opinions, Even more reports with flat out lies, just to "get a story out" or to "Be the first with a story."
I felt this article was written objectively. Taking confirmed information, to honestly and logically, surmise the situation, of American Airlines canceling many flights over the...
I apologize, but I dont see anywhere in this article regarding pilots dying after being vaccinated.
I have noticed a lot news being reported based on opinions, Even more reports with flat out lies, just to "get a story out" or to "Be the first with a story."
I felt this article was written objectively. Taking confirmed information, to honestly and logically, surmise the situation, of American Airlines canceling many flights over the weekend. Thank you for your upfront report.
Sounds like some folks need to fly VIP airlines where every seat is first class they’re on time every time!
I don't understand people who won't get vaccinated. Stop spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories.
Pull up Dr Tenpenny people and learn the facts
My family and I have been traveling since yesterday with American Airlines from LAX to STL Lambert. Our flight was delayed then we lost connecting flight. We got rebooked to United Airlines and were given a hotel voucher to overnight in Denver. When we arrived at the given hotel, the voucher was not valid and we were not able to sleep in the hotel. We came back to the airport and overnighted on the airport...
My family and I have been traveling since yesterday with American Airlines from LAX to STL Lambert. Our flight was delayed then we lost connecting flight. We got rebooked to United Airlines and were given a hotel voucher to overnight in Denver. When we arrived at the given hotel, the voucher was not valid and we were not able to sleep in the hotel. We came back to the airport and overnighted on the airport benches. We couldn't find any available hotels at that time of the night.
At 4:00 am, we checked in with United flight and had to pay additionally for one checked bag which was already paid with American Airlines. We went to American Airlines customer service kiosk to see if we can be accommodated for the inconveniences but they simply said they can't do anything for us. Originally, we have purchased a straight 3 hour flight to LAX and back but that flight got cancelled within the week of purchase. Everything started going down from there.
This is a shame and fraud. I understand that Covid has caused many problems but this fiasco that American Airlines has put their customers through is simply unforgivable. Now, they have lost many loyal customers forever.
I was flying to Bonaire for a week of free diving instruction. Booked BNB, bought some gear. The day before my flight I got an email saying the flight was cancelled. No explanation other than “operational requirements”. The BNB was a no changes rule, which that I would not get a refund.
I tried to find out what was the reason. No luck.
I’ve been telling people to avoid American Airlines for the time being....
I was flying to Bonaire for a week of free diving instruction. Booked BNB, bought some gear. The day before my flight I got an email saying the flight was cancelled. No explanation other than “operational requirements”. The BNB was a no changes rule, which that I would not get a refund.
I tried to find out what was the reason. No luck.
I’ve been telling people to avoid American Airlines for the time being. They won’t book you on another airline.
After reading this report I think my advice is the same. Unlike rules in Europe, in the states airlines can cancel any flight with no compensation.
Maybe the pilots don't want to fly in Boeing Deathtrap planes which were allowed to fly by a criminally fraudulent FAA
There is a very simple reason for all these cancellations, Pilots are still jittery or afraid to fly the 737-Max and are stalling calling out sick or doing their best not to be 737 Certified, also AA is " Overbooking " trying to make up for all the pandemic losses which is ridiculous, you cant do that, TSA Officers are overworked, TSA & AA is extremely understaffed, this is a serious security issue for the...
There is a very simple reason for all these cancellations, Pilots are still jittery or afraid to fly the 737-Max and are stalling calling out sick or doing their best not to be 737 Certified, also AA is " Overbooking " trying to make up for all the pandemic losses which is ridiculous, you cant do that, TSA Officers are overworked, TSA & AA is extremely understaffed, this is a serious security issue for the fleet, improper aircraft inspections, prrssure by the airlines to get flights out which is very dangerous for crew and passengers. We are also seeing a serious security & inspections issue with TSA as they are being pressured to screen passengers a lot faster than normal, lots of things can be missed, not good. I know i wouldnt fly anytime soon. There wont be enough staff until all unemployment benefits are ended and people are forced to find work again.
I believe that it's because they brought the 737 Max back. Pilots do not want to fly a plane that may take over their controls on auto and fly them into the ground. Just my theory
It’s all over European media British Airways had 4 pilots die 2 within a day of vaccination. CNN is lying to you wake up sheeple
I had my flights canceled last weekend on American. It wasn't just a pilot shortage that I encountered. There weren't enough wheelchair attendants, not enough ticket counter workers, not enough ground crew (we had to wait on the tarmac for ground crew to pull us away from the gate), and not enough catering service (after a 2+ hr delay they still didn't have time to restock the plane with drinks and snacks). It was an all around staffing shortage.
China will be taking over the airlines if they dont get their crap together!
How come no one is wondering if this is a cyber attack? You can't have planes flying if your computers go down . And they probably don't want to panic the public
Yeah sure. What’s really happening…the United States is under attack from cyber hackers and our government doesn’t want to admit it. Look what happened to Southwest Airlines just a few days ago. Wait until our power grids are shut down..
Ever heard of spell check
Those who are against Covid-19 vaccinations use everything, even religion to spread lies about science. There are plenty of ex- Military PILOTS ... men an woman of every ethnic group that would make great Pilots ... balls in your court AMERICAN AIRLINES!
Who is using religion to spread lies? The answer would be nobody. Pull up Dr Tenpenny and listen to her professional opinion on the vaccines and quit believing the false narrative you hear on CNN George.
Yes, I have been severely impacted this weekend by American Airlines operational issues. I have not been able to reschedule my flight since Thursday and today is Father's Day, yesterday was Juneteenth and after countess calls where I'm not to attempt reaching customer service unless you're flying at least 72 hours out but then AA advises you the wait is 4 hours, so you can receive a call back. The callback came exactly 4 hours...
Yes, I have been severely impacted this weekend by American Airlines operational issues. I have not been able to reschedule my flight since Thursday and today is Father's Day, yesterday was Juneteenth and after countess calls where I'm not to attempt reaching customer service unless you're flying at least 72 hours out but then AA advises you the wait is 4 hours, so you can receive a call back. The callback came exactly 4 hours later but disconnected. I did it again and received the call 4 hours later but missed it bc I was inside of a store & didn't see or hear the call come through. I had a memorial (death) service to attend the following day and naturally I turned the phone off during the service inside the church. And then most the of remaining day was devoted to grieving family and it just wasn't apropos to schedule and wait for 4 hours, which is what I was told again on the second day and then to only have the phone ring during the church service. So, that was essentially a lost day...Now this is the fourth day. The first day was on Thursday where I spent countless hours calling and trying to reach someone and then when I did- he couldn't get me on a flight for an equal exchange. Then he found a flight ✈️ and told me I had to be there Iin one hour...hey dude that's not gonna happen bc I'm uptown Philly and the airport is all the way down the Xpressway and then some. The other offer was to add the difference in ticket cost, which was half of the originally priced ticket - no thank you. Luckily, I'm flexible and retired, so I can make it work for me... Ba c k to the drawing board today. I hope I have better luck!!!
@american airlines. How about trying to pay your employees instead of demanding they 'volunteer' to work for free... your employees might actually show up to crew these flights if you paid them ! What the heck is MANDATORY volunteering anyway??
This isnt just this weekend! I purchased a vacation package with the and traveled internationally. They cancelled our departure flight and return flights "without notice"!
Luckily, Im not one to take "no" for an answer.
Of course their excuse for us was "no available crew"!
No compensation and i picked up additional expenses! They suck!!
Don’t see a date on the article, but where it lists the number of “canceled” flights makes it sound past tense. Now I’m no time traveler, but today is Sunday so how can you list flights already canceled for Monday?? Either way, yes the airline industry is having a hard time with staffing across the board.
Yep, AA canceled our first class flights from WAS to PHX on Friday, rerouting stopover to another city. I have yet to receive the “call back” from reservations (over 24hrs now at the time of this writing). Rebook has really messed up our rental car reso in PHX (and we all know what rental car bookings are like right now). Going to cancel the entire trip and get a refund.
This is another example of how poorly US airlines are managed as compared to foreign competitors. Vaccinated or not lol don't care. Air travel used to be great when. Airlines carried about image and customer satisfaction. Now the big three are run by morons.
American airlines is a joke. They cancelled our flight out of Sioux falls and then booked us on the worst flight schedule via Delta. We knew Delta had a better flight option but the ticket agent was super rude and refused to help us. We had to buy our own ticket to get the better flight on Delta.
They cancelled another flight this weekend and provided the worst schedule possible. Had to pay $99...
American airlines is a joke. They cancelled our flight out of Sioux falls and then booked us on the worst flight schedule via Delta. We knew Delta had a better flight option but the ticket agent was super rude and refused to help us. We had to buy our own ticket to get the better flight on Delta.
They cancelled another flight this weekend and provided the worst schedule possible. Had to pay $99 to get put on the flight with the better schedule.
I wouldn't recommend using them even if they are the only airline flying to your destination. There are always other options.
It's been a disaster! My flight was cancelled and rescheduled with a 2-stop redeye flight. Wait times when calling customer service has been well over 3 hours, including a 7 hour call-back wait on Tuesday.
Seems like they will demand more stimulus relief dollars and then they will be ok
That's crazy. I connected the dots differently. Biden-Putin meet about cyber security. Major airlines' websites fail. Then 100s of American flights get canceled. Somebody didn't pay their ransoms. The airline computers are under attack.
Curious why you did not suggest hacking and/or ransomware was a cause for the "operational" issues destroying American's reputation...or whats left of it.
So when does Airlines give their pilots vacation time? I bet that they want to give it to them now so that the pilots are available during overly busy days like July 4th because the higher demand means higher prices for tickets
Long story here, I will try to shorten it. All starts with making reservations in January for our September trip, now June and there have been 4 changes to our flight times which made them unacceptable for 2 older people.
I called American to try to switch flights left my number and they called 8 hours later, they had nothing better. The lady on the phone told me my tickets were refundable ( which...
Long story here, I will try to shorten it. All starts with making reservations in January for our September trip, now June and there have been 4 changes to our flight times which made them unacceptable for 2 older people.
I called American to try to switch flights left my number and they called 8 hours later, they had nothing better. The lady on the phone told me my tickets were refundable ( which I doubted to myself) all I had to do is request a refund. Done. The next day I get emails saying the flights are not refundable. With a number to call to use my tickets before they expire( have no idea when that is) I call, placed on hold for over 3 hours and accidentally hung my cell up. Call again and was able to leave my number at 10am, never recieved a call back and called again at 10pm before bed, it told me my number was in the queue and I would be called.
Wake up this morning and see I missed 2 calls from American Airlines at 3:45 am. Guess I shouldn't sleep. Travel with AA at your own risk.
Pilots make $$$ for their own business. Give them a break.
Everyone either lazy or do not know how to spend their money.
I was coming back from Jamaica on the 13th of June. Flew with family. Then flew separate to st louis. After my flight from 8am was delayed til 11:45am, we boarded. Flight delayed while on board another hour. Then we were told there was no pilot. Got off airplane and was shuttled to Best Western. Could only get to rooms outside. Was stalked by a guy who saw where my room was. He then called...
I was coming back from Jamaica on the 13th of June. Flew with family. Then flew separate to st louis. After my flight from 8am was delayed til 11:45am, we boarded. Flight delayed while on board another hour. Then we were told there was no pilot. Got off airplane and was shuttled to Best Western. Could only get to rooms outside. Was stalked by a guy who saw where my room was. He then called my room to ask me to go have a drink. Of course I said HELL NO. I then called the front desk to have someone escort me out of my room. After 3 calls and an hour later, still no one came to walk me out. I was so mad I walked to the office and went off on the front desk guy. Then I called a taxi and went to another hotel which I paid for. Really? Only one guy and no security at the hotel? Done with United forever.
Hmm...maybe noone wants to fly Max?
American Airlines is the worst, and stole money from me. They canceled my flight in April, downgraded me, and didn't fully refund what I paid for the upgrade. I'll never book them again. Too many other airlines to choose from to make that ok.
Thank goodness we completed our trip before this happened. With all that's happened in the last year or so I don't know why people are upset. You can't expect things to magically return to any normalcy over night.
Thank you for this information - It has been nighmare. Our flight was canceled on Saturday and then again on Sundau and now we are traveling on Monday. Long awaited vacation to Cabos is melting in front of our eyes. You can reach anybody on 1800 number, I waited for over 6 hours. What a mess
Seems like Southwest Airlines also had a high number of cancelled flights. Their fleet is exclusive or close to exclusive to 737. Wish we had passenger trains like In europe for shorter trips 300 -600 miles.
No email yet that AA flight home from Mexico will be changed or canceled but I will take this as a warning. Pilot pushed wheelchair to connecting DFW flight to Mexico. Fill in where needed. Flew full, hours late but same day departure. Luggage arrived with us.
Is it not because there is a tropical storm in the southeast? My wife's flight this weekend got cancelled for this reason
"“operational decisions,” presumably that’s for situations where American prioritized one flight over another."
Operational decisions means their flight planners scheduled a flight without enough passengers, i.e. more than they are willing to deliver.
This happened quite often with American prior pandemic.
My connection was cancelled for the same reason, and I spent the entire day at the airport. There outta be a law.
American Airlines sucks. Kept my money (x2) when I canceled my Hawaii trip because of coronavirus. I will never use them again.
It’s not only American it’s Southwest Airlines also. On Thursday I was dropping my wife and daughter off for a flight from Atlanta to Louisville and my daughter noticed their flight had been canceled.
I don't doubt any of this info for a second. Had a flight on American from Denver to Chicago on june 11th. It was set back over 8 hours because we didn't have a pilot and was told that the next flight leaving at midnight had no guarantee of having one either. They ended up putting a bunch of us on a united flight.
I flew with American this week. Absolutely the worst experience ever! I would have to be desperate to ever fly with them again.
Maybe lots of people called for Juneteenth holiday.
I’m sitting at the gate now, 6/19/21 @ 11:30pm, AA 276 SFO-JFK with no real update aside that they are waiting for maintenance, not that they ever announced there was a maintenance issue…So far we have been delayed 50 minutes.
American airline canceled my flight and never gave me a refund or anything I was left in Dallas for a whole day because they delayed and canceled my flight. I will never flight with them again because they do not communicate and will cancel your flight without a explanation and if you do ask they will just say am sorry and sorry for your inconvenience. That is not enough for customers that had to spend...
American airline canceled my flight and never gave me a refund or anything I was left in Dallas for a whole day because they delayed and canceled my flight. I will never flight with them again because they do not communicate and will cancel your flight without a explanation and if you do ask they will just say am sorry and sorry for your inconvenience. That is not enough for customers that had to spend money that do not want to spend because they flight got canceled.
I hope they get back on there feet again. Plus of lay offs and people having to change life style s. That they can handle the situation. God bless
American Airlines is having more problems than just canceling flights. Their airline service in general is just failing. From customer service to baggage handling and forward, their service standards level has just fallen to a horrible level. I just flew to Florida from NC over Memoial Weekend. Had notified them I would be checking a firearm in my luggage the very same day I booked my flight with them in March. They notifed me of...
American Airlines is having more problems than just canceling flights. Their airline service in general is just failing. From customer service to baggage handling and forward, their service standards level has just fallen to a horrible level. I just flew to Florida from NC over Memoial Weekend. Had notified them I would be checking a firearm in my luggage the very same day I booked my flight with them in March. They notifed me of all FAA Laws/Rules/Guidelines and Instructions on flying a firearm. I was notified some time in April or May that my flight schedule had been changed. I called customer service to find out why and of course, no one could explain why. They offered to try to fix it as best as they could, however, they still couldn't change the error when they booked me on the late flight returning to Fayetteville at 1145pm. This caused me to have to take off an extra day from work and burn extra vacation hours. Was also told when asked that they could offer me NOTHING for my inconvenience.
So....time to fly...Show up at Fayetteville, NC Airport, firearm stored and locked according to said previous Laws/Rules, etc., in the luggage and taken by me to baggage check. I was instructed to tell TSA employee that took my luggage that there was a locked firearm in that suitcase, which I did, and he then took custody of said luggage. Somewhere between the take off in Fayetteville, NC; change planes in Charlotte, NC; and landing in Fort Lauderdale, FL, my luggage was held up because apparently, from how it was explained to me, it was not marked appropriately as having a firearm in it, went through the X-Ray machine, the firearm pinged the alarm on the X-Ray machine, and my was was pulled for a search. The most appropriate word was not searched. It was completely ransacked to the point where the zipper pulls had been pulled off the suitcase and my small plastic cosmetic case was smashed. Wish I could post a picture for proof. Oh, and its not even on my flight. My luggage was delayed due to said search and was arriving on the next flight in from Charlotte, NC. I didn't find out about the condition of any of it until close to midnight that night when we had to drive back to the airport from close to Pompano Beach. All that being said.....there is something going on over at American Airlines that is not good. Whatever it is......you can't blame it on Covid-19 or changes due to Covid-19. It goes much deeper than that....because American Airlines used to have it together.
Wow, I would like to learn more about this....
That's funny. I heard a few companies were looking into succession planning for their employees that have been vaccinated. Expecting them to be gone in a few years. What's that say about the vaccinated. Seriously, who would rush to inject themselves with a cocktail mixed poison. Not even FDA approved. News outlets trying to debunk magnetized skin near the injection site accidentally expose it instead. Yeah, you're dumb to take a rushed poison. Luring people...
That's funny. I heard a few companies were looking into succession planning for their employees that have been vaccinated. Expecting them to be gone in a few years. What's that say about the vaccinated. Seriously, who would rush to inject themselves with a cocktail mixed poison. Not even FDA approved. News outlets trying to debunk magnetized skin near the injection site accidentally expose it instead. Yeah, you're dumb to take a rushed poison. Luring people in with incentives like free Snow Cones and lap dances.
American is one of the worst airlines ever…….we had a terrible experience a few years ago in Dallas…….stranded for days and zero compensation………..
Where are u seeing some1 say the vaccine is what caused the health issues
Calm down, Conspiracy Theorists...reason and facts, again, rule the day...
https://twitter.com/british_airways/status/1405606519631007748
British Airways
@British_Airways
Jun 17
Sadly four members of our pilot community passed away recently. Our thoughts are with their family and friends. However, there is no truth whatsoever in the claims on social media speculating that the four deaths are linked. Julie
With Covid and then topped with the 737Maxx grounding, a lot of AA 737 pilots moved to the "busses" over the last year and now, all of a sudden, Aviation is exploding. Fleets are back, passengers are back, no one is prepared for the demand but the airlines are more than happy to sell more seats than they can fly. From security to ground agents to rental cars, no one was prepared for this to...
With Covid and then topped with the 737Maxx grounding, a lot of AA 737 pilots moved to the "busses" over the last year and now, all of a sudden, Aviation is exploding. Fleets are back, passengers are back, no one is prepared for the demand but the airlines are more than happy to sell more seats than they can fly. From security to ground agents to rental cars, no one was prepared for this to rebound this fast. But... reservations will be happy to collect your money and then "credit you" to use it when they cannot supply the demand.
Their retiring of the 757, 767 and A330's didn't help.
Yes!!! Meltdown is what I experienced last weekend. Not enough staff, flights cancelled, gate changes, etc. Utter chaos! However, I will say, under the circumstances, the staff remained helpful and calm.
I've been flying since I was 12, both domestic and international, and NEVER experienced anything like this.
The whole transportation industry is having shortage. The baby boomers are retiring at a large rate due to the political concerns brought on by this past presidential election, stay tuned folks there's alot more to come. ❤
Worst airline ever
We experienced cancellations as early as 6/8/21. We were to fly from BWI to Charlotte and flight was delayed 2 hours due to late arrival and the need for test time (required) before flying again. We would have missed our connecting flight. The customer service personnel did everything they could to accommodate our flight, which resulted in 4 cancelled or missed flights before we finally got to our destination 12 hours later than the original...
We experienced cancellations as early as 6/8/21. We were to fly from BWI to Charlotte and flight was delayed 2 hours due to late arrival and the need for test time (required) before flying again. We would have missed our connecting flight. The customer service personnel did everything they could to accommodate our flight, which resulted in 4 cancelled or missed flights before we finally got to our destination 12 hours later than the original time scheduled. When due to return, we were notified on 6/16:21 that our 10:30 pm flight had been rebooked for the following morning through a different connecting airport. Then we were an hour late leaving the connecting flight due to some issues with the plane. There again, arriving 12 hours after our original scheduled flights.
The reason: Mo flight crew and somehow, I believe the issues were with the Charlotte NC airport.
Never had difficulties like this except during a blizzard. This was worse.
This is the worst airline. I flew with them last week and it was miserable. I will never fly American again.
Makes sense it could be a pilot related thing. Most of the furloughed pilots were on the 737 and many are still in the training pipeline to return to from furlough. Plus as many pilots that could take military leave or other leaves did when they thought furlough was imminent and may have been wrapped up with these commitments when they were recalled.
On the flip side the majority of domestic mainline AA flights...
Makes sense it could be a pilot related thing. Most of the furloughed pilots were on the 737 and many are still in the training pipeline to return to from furlough. Plus as many pilots that could take military leave or other leaves did when they thought furlough was imminent and may have been wrapped up with these commitments when they were recalled.
On the flip side the majority of domestic mainline AA flights are on the 737. With the widebodies still running reduced schedules any issues is most likely to hit the 737 fleet the hardest, pilot staffing issue or not.
My Saturday afternoon SFO --> DFW was cancelled (with two other ones, same route), they rebooked me on a Sunday flight that would leave 15 minutes till midnight, arriving in DFW on Monday morning 5 AM
I quickly rebooked myself on United, but that flight ended up getting cancelled as well, I am now confirmed with United on a Sunday morning flight, and ironically, they ended up getting me a hotel voucher, which seems kinda wrong, as AA started the whole mess
Where are they flying? Heat is preventing planes
from landing/taking off
in places like Phoenix during this heat wave due to the runways.
Vegas, Tucson, etc.
This is why they have canceled the flights. They do not want to alarm the public! British Airways have now said any flight crew who have received the Covid 19 vaccine can no longer fly. This is after unfortunately a British Airways pilot died shortly after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine. Could you imagine 33 thousand feet in the air and your pilot dies! And all the while they have 200 or more in many cases...
This is why they have canceled the flights. They do not want to alarm the public! British Airways have now said any flight crew who have received the Covid 19 vaccine can no longer fly. This is after unfortunately a British Airways pilot died shortly after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine. Could you imagine 33 thousand feet in the air and your pilot dies! And all the while they have 200 or more in many cases of people on board. It doesn't bare thinking about!
I would say most definitely that is why American has cancelled hundreds of flights, they aren't taking any chances!
I have to think that the airline staff were all vaccinated months ago...like most sensible people in the US. Not likely the reason. The UK has only been giving first jabs until recently.
I get cancelled on American flying through DFW all the time, mostly fir “weather”. It’s an amazing coincidence; 3 partially filled regionals are scheduled to a destination. The first one gets cancelled for weather and then the next two are packed full.
AA has zero credibility with me. United through IAH is much more reliable.
Just like before when pilots don't take overtime and fly their days off flights by the hundreds can get canceled. Instead of hiring more pilots and have to pay Medical they depend on flight attendants and pilots especially to work their days off to fly many flights. If pilots do not take the overtime flights get canceled they've done it before where they all got together and none of them worked any day off overtime hundreds and hundreds of flights got canceled
My flight from Denver to Phoenix was delayed by 8 hours due to mechanical problems. A lot of these planes are being taken out of boneyards. This maybe a contributing factor.
This week was an AA joke. AUS - CLT - DAY every airport is at max capacity, TSA line wait @ 4:30am on a Sunday, 40 minute lines. (Thank goodness I’m TSA pre) Meanwhile AA has limited gates to one agent, furloughs still in place, sardine packed flights, limited options for flight legs, full service in main cabin still limited while 1st class is fully serviced, I waited in priority access check-in line while agent...
This week was an AA joke. AUS - CLT - DAY every airport is at max capacity, TSA line wait @ 4:30am on a Sunday, 40 minute lines. (Thank goodness I’m TSA pre) Meanwhile AA has limited gates to one agent, furloughs still in place, sardine packed flights, limited options for flight legs, full service in main cabin still limited while 1st class is fully serviced, I waited in priority access check-in line while agent took four non-status passengers before calling me up, spoke to an AA flight attendant while waiting to board who told me AA refuses to lessen internal call backs to work and open additional legs to keep flights at max capacity. Their system is breaking due to appeasing C-level money greed and stock holder wallet share. After 15 years of being AA exec plat, I’m done and moving to another carrier.
AA just told me our flight, booked 2.5 months ago, has been changed. Instead of return flight at 1030 am., we now have a return flight at 5:00am… what?? This really is MADDENING,
It means we have to get up at 3 am, or earlier, in order to get an Uber or shuttle for the 50 mile drive to the airport. BAD ON AA!
I think I have a solution. Based on what I've read so far, American has a fleet of 737s they don't have pilots for. I'm guessing that they fly mostly Airbus jets. Alaska is looking to replace a fleet of 320s and 321ns with 737ns. Can the two Airlines just make a trade in aircraft? Then, American will have the Airbuses they have pilots for, and Alaska will have their 737ns.
I tweeted you the other day about this. I’ve had two flights canceled and my boss had one in the span of a week. Curious about my return flight from Tulsa…will one be canceled? Economy came back to fast for them to handle it.
Could some of the cancelled flights be due to the high heat in the South West. Many of the smaller planes can't fly in heat above 118 degrees. Phoenix and Palm Springs have several days with heat at or above 118.
I am so glad I booked my trip from June 4 to June 8. Had no problems, everything went smoothly; even arrived to my destination 30 minutes earlier.
Come on people, get back to f*cking work! Enough with the Doodahs (do da check come today?)
Maybe Doug Parker should spend more time running the airline instead of being concerned about Texas voter legislation .
Parker doesn't know how to run an airline.
This is not new! On 6/9 we had a family member's flight cancelled with no explanation. She got stranded in San Diego. She spent 2 hours on hold waiting for customer service to no avail. I took over and called again only to spend 8 hours through the entire night on hold. When it hit 8 hrs their customer service hung up on me. I got NO sleep & had to meet with clients after....
This is not new! On 6/9 we had a family member's flight cancelled with no explanation. She got stranded in San Diego. She spent 2 hours on hold waiting for customer service to no avail. I took over and called again only to spend 8 hours through the entire night on hold. When it hit 8 hrs their customer service hung up on me. I got NO sleep & had to meet with clients after. Our family member lost wages at work & no resolve. I wrote an email to AA's CEO. It was answered by Victoria Lambert, Executive Team, Customer Relations, American Airlines who called me & was very cold, borderline rude. She did say the flight was cancelled due to crew shortage. Didn't really care how long were were on hold.just said their staff is busy. She offered a measley $150 & upped it to $175 for our time & inconvenience. On June 15th she sent an email response with a promise of compensation which we have not received as of today June 19th. HORRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE! I have screenshots of all of this. On top of this their flights are ALWAYS overbooked and beg/bribe customers to change flights & will compensate them from between $200 to $400. This happened to my son's flight the next day. Their lack of caring and poor customer service has to go viral. Something has to be done.
I’m putting my money on yet another cyberattack demanding extortion money and the feds are putting a gag order on the airlines to keep it quiet.
Yep!
After the pandemic shut down, people realized what a rip off airlines are and how air travel is overrated. No need to travel too far for vacation.
Does this mean the stock will go down
They got the money from Joe Biden already. Is time to hide it. Tax purpose.
“Pilot Shortage” It’s Father’s Day Weekend, they’re calling in sick.
And the pandemic isn't "over"..
The Boeing 350 max is the problem. The FAA reported electrical problem a month ago. AA has the biggest fleet, the are trying to fix the planes without alarming the public. My opinion.
The Boeing 350 max is hands down the worst aircraft ever built.
There is no such thing as a Boeing 350.
No such plane: "Boeing 350 Max."
Thanks for your opinion (and especially for labeling it as such -- that was honest).
But it's hard to consider you an authoritative source when you start your comment by referring to an airplane with a name that's a mash-up of Boeing and Airbus.
Our flight was canceled... and funny how easily they were able to find new flights for everyone on board. AA (in my opinion) is using the excuse of "troubling times" to impact their bottom line. Otherwise, many more people would be flying standby, instead of finding a flight immediately.
The world has changed post pandemic. I'm not a part of it any longer and choose not to be. Sad, but I have had a good run!
Hope you are okay Wayjsmes
Ok John..if you say so..guess I'll get my comeuppance for being crazy enough to fly down to see grandkids this weekend
I've been flying since the pandemic started no problem at all and I'll continue to fly. Flew couple days ago got caught up in the SW mess but I'll still fly SW hands down 9 more days and its TX bound for family 4th party. And I'll not get Vaccinated I'm nobody's lab rat my choice!!!
@Margo: I have always felt sorrow for those that were ignorant from birth and felt amazed at those ignorant by choice.
I made reservation for August few weeks ago, on american airline,and already cancelled on me, they gave an alternative thats impossible to meet, so expedia found me another route, but i expect that to change again
It is Father’s Day weekend so it is a holiday. Also Juneteenth. This article should not include your guesses if it is news. Report what are facts. Bad Weather and the heat causing blackouts could have come into play. I realize people are entitled to have an opinion but do not pose as a news piece.
This weekend a ton of flights scheduled over the next 6 months got canceled- the action was this weekend but impacts operations for most of the rest of 2021. Definitely newsworthy. And to date no info from AA as to why, with many pax scrambling for travel that was booked for the coming weeks. But this weekend certainly has been a doozy with weather delays and the uptick of travelers
Flew LAX/DFW today. Departed on time, and landed on schedule but then had to wait for a gate. It was the same thing going out to LAX, landed early but arrived at the gate late. They seem to be short of gates and short of rampers too. The terminal at LAX was packed with people. Many traveling for the first time in awhile and it showed.
@OneMileAtATime - note I’ve had flights that are months away all shuffled this weekend. All were 73’s so definitely more than just weather related
We've traveled thru this pandemic..no problems...and we are NOT in the least bit concerned about getting sick....no different from any traveling before the COVID...we have always been more cautious when traveling with washing hands and wiping down surfaces...I have a sister that is a flight attendant and worked thru the whole pandemic with no issues...
I'm flying internationally in 4 days will cross my fingers that our flights aren't canceled!
Agree about all signs pointing to the 737 rating, but also noticed a lot of options to move my flights to Max. Wondering if pilots not wanting to fly Max have shifted to Airbus NEOs. Also curious how quickly airlines may shift to cheaper Airbus planes after the trade tariffs were suspended this past week. One thing for sure; the aviation industry is getting as much of a shakeup as the corporate industry.
It is not an issue for the 737 pilots flying either -800 or the -8max.
If you’re crazy enough to be traveling so soon after the “pandemic” ended, and during the summer no less, you deserve to be cancelled, or whatever,
Easy John......
Jesus John, what a crappy outlook. Stay scared my friend!!
There's a valid point in there, but it got eclipsed by the words "crazy" and "you deserve". Coulda just said, if you take the risk of traveling so soon after the pandemic ended, and during the summer no less, don't be surprised if you get cancelled or whatever.
True. And Btw...the pandemic is far from over. People dropping like Flys in midwest...its in their sewage system now. MSNBC reported live from a town in MO yesterday
About 3000. People there. Dieing everyday from the Delta variant. So, no it isn't over and the longer you continue to act as if it is, the longer you will wait, and the poorer you will become.
I am thankful and appreciated the two flights on American Airlines on Thursday and Friday, to and from North Carolina.
A friend is an AA 737 pilot. His retraining and return from furlough was delayed due to the illness of training personnel and check airmen at American's training facility, or wherever it was supposed to be held. His retraining/recertification was pushed back several weeks. I'd imagine that this is at least part of the problem, calling back furloughed cockpit crew and getting them up to currency. With the MAX back in full swing, there's likely...
A friend is an AA 737 pilot. His retraining and return from furlough was delayed due to the illness of training personnel and check airmen at American's training facility, or wherever it was supposed to be held. His retraining/recertification was pushed back several weeks. I'd imagine that this is at least part of the problem, calling back furloughed cockpit crew and getting them up to currency. With the MAX back in full swing, there's likely a real need for 737 pilots that AA simply can't fulfill at the moment. But hey, he's on full pay until they get their training backlog sorted out, so its all good.
American has been cancelling two or more percent of its mainline flights for several weeks. Its recent on-time has been consistently at the bottom of the industry regardless of the weather. JetBlue is also aggressively scheduling and has multiple days over the past two weeks that have had over 30% of its flights delayed.
The DOT has released on-time and cancellation performance thru the first 3 months of 2021 and the trends are pretty...
American has been cancelling two or more percent of its mainline flights for several weeks. Its recent on-time has been consistently at the bottom of the industry regardless of the weather. JetBlue is also aggressively scheduling and has multiple days over the past two weeks that have had over 30% of its flights delayed.
The DOT has released on-time and cancellation performance thru the first 3 months of 2021 and the trends are pretty similar to before covid; Hawaiian and Delta have the best on-time and lowest rates of cancellation while JetBlue has the lowest on-time with Allegiant just rank higher and United has the highest rate of cancellations with Southwest just ahead.
Lies and falsehoods being spread about the vaccine are why we can’t have nice things.
Maybe they are not lies...
Go away, anti-vaxxer troll...you are clearly here just to cause trouble
Typical “what aboutism” from an empty-headed anti-vaxxer.
I was supposed to fly from Toronto to Dallas on American on Monday, found out the plane would be a 737,which I’m nervous to get on, cancelled my flight and am flying Delta which uses A320s for that route. I’ll feel safer.
Why would you be worried about the 737?
A) Do you know it was a 737-8max or was it a 737-800?
B)Would you like me to tell you some of the issues (that have not been wide spread reported) about the A320?
C) The amount of scrutiny that the max has gone through in the last year should quill all your fears except you really don't have a concept and will be...
Why would you be worried about the 737?
A) Do you know it was a 737-8max or was it a 737-800?
B)Would you like me to tell you some of the issues (that have not been wide spread reported) about the A320?
C) The amount of scrutiny that the max has gone through in the last year should quill all your fears except you really don't have a concept and will be afraid whatever you are. As well as the extensive train just on that one issue the 737 pilots had to go through.
Your comment is neither helpful nor is it based in any sort of education. It is as poor as the vaccination comment.
Read the article. AA is canceling flights on the 737 MAX. That’s why he feels safer—safer from having his flight canceled because booked with Delta on an A320.
Delta does not fly Toronto to Dallas so you’re either not on Delta or you’re lying.
Delta flies YYZ to DFW via DTW. YYZ to DTW is operated by a regional partner. DTW to DFW is operated by Delta on an A220 or A320.
The phone situation is awful. We HAVE to book via a rep due to a handicap. They tell you they will call back within 4 hours. Yesterday it took 9 hours.
This is horrible!
For the record in these troubled times, the BA pilot deaths were in no way linked to any Coronavirus vaccines. There’s a lot of misinformation out there and this claim could indirectly result in someone dying because they were frightened away from receiving a vaccination.
On what authority do you make this statement? Do you know the pilots? Do you know their doctors? Do you have their medical records? Your comment means nothing.
I dont believe u..the only way u could know this is if u know the pilots personally and I highly doubt it.
My June 19 flight on 737max was cancelled with 3 days notice. Rebooking was horrible early departure with long layover in Miami.
AA refused to refund and I had to accept credit. I had a very enjoyable nonstop flight on UA B777 instead in Polaris configuration.
Pilots die just like everyone else. The 4 BA pilots DID NOT die from a second vaccine dose.
How do you know that? Did you know them or their vax status personally or are you just a paid shill. Everyone knows about the blood clots already...
You know that polio thing with vaccines and how you didn't get polio, they're actually related. mRna vaccines work by design, the blood clot item you raise is a rare reaction well understood and a tiny fraction of the inoculated population. Your odds of wearing a ventilator without the vaccine are orders of magnitude greater than experiencing a blood clot after receiving a vaccine. & no, I am not a shill, just a microbiologist.
Well said Zoso!
And factual!
I would further ask JW if he has seen the lungs of people who have died of COVID-19.
As a Medical School Professor of Pathology and of Microbiology and Immunology, I have.
I can assure you that vaccination is preferable to contracting moderate, severe or fatal Covid-19 disease.
Much More!
Over 4,000 people have died in the US from the covid vaccines and that number is grossly underestimated. I've heard the number is 25,000 worldwide. Hold on to your microscope because more people will die and the evidence will come out.
Trump does that. Everybody knows...
JW...where are your “facts”coming from? Where is the evidence that they died from a second vaccination? Where are the medical and post-death work-ups and reports that document and describe the cause of death? Unless you or competent authorities have seen and UNDERSTAND those reports your statements are simply wrong and dangerous. By spreading such misinformation you can cause more misunderstanding leading to more infections and deaths.
Leave the analysis to experts.
D
JW...where are your “facts”coming from? Where is the evidence that they died from a second vaccination? Where are the medical and post-death work-ups and reports that document and describe the cause of death? Unless you or competent authorities have seen and UNDERSTAND those reports your statements are simply wrong and dangerous. By spreading such misinformation you can cause more misunderstanding leading to more infections and deaths.
Leave the analysis to experts.
D
https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spike-protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/
@ lo43 -- I am deleting your comments, because I think (hope) you have just egregiously misread here, and I don't want others to make a similar error.
The spike protein in this (or any other) coronavirus is how it invades host cells, where it then replicates until it basically "explodes" the cell. This is what the article is talking about.
This has next to nothing to do with the COVID-19 vaccines, other than...
@ lo43 -- I am deleting your comments, because I think (hope) you have just egregiously misread here, and I don't want others to make a similar error.
The spike protein in this (or any other) coronavirus is how it invades host cells, where it then replicates until it basically "explodes" the cell. This is what the article is talking about.
This has next to nothing to do with the COVID-19 vaccines, other than the mRNA ones give instructions to your immune system to be on high alert for that spike protein, and to destroy it and anything attached to it with extreme prejudice.
Go too the web site austingwalters.com/covid19-vaccine-risk/ and read about how many people have died from this vaccine. Pull up Dr. Tenpenny and listen to her. She's an expert and she explains how this vaccine will totally destroy your immune system. You mentioned experts so are you talking about Dr. Fauci? Read his leaked emails on how he knew mask didn't work and this virus was created in a lab paid for by him and Bill Gates.
This post is for Hal- Miami
HOW DO U KNOW FOR SURE...DO U KNOW THE PILOTS PERSONALLY OR IS THAT JUST A WILD GUESS..PEOPLE ARE WIDE AWAKE
You are misinformed.
So I'll make it simple. Why did they sell tickets if they had not enough pilots? Why did they fly some people to destinations one way, when they knew that they couldn't get them back after taking thir money? It's called GREED
My whole family had our reservations changed with no email telling us this. The flight is not until October but the change of time has really upset our plans. The reservation includes the bride, groom. Best man and mother of the bride. It’s been a mess and the fact that they did not have the decency to even contact one of us is just rude and disgusting.
They didn't contact me either about your family's reservation changes. Not one email. So I'm pretty sure everything's still on track. Don't worry about it!
I had a flight canceled with notice! I am supposed to leave tomorrow (6/20) !!
I had a flight scheduled on a 737 on Monday 6-21 and it was canceled and I was automatically scheduled for 6/22 on the first morning flight.
I am currently sitting on an American Airlines flight that has been delayed for over 2 hours from Orlando to Charlotte now due to, " no pilot" pilot became ill and was unable to fly. I would be sympathetic if both of my flights last Saturday had not been delayed for hours and hours. Currently done with American Airlines for a while.
Likewise, last weekend, we had all sorts of mishaps flying AA (delays, cancellations, misinformation, etc., etc.). I overheard one customer service rep telling another that the airline is ill-equipped to handle the influx of travelers now that the pandemic is ending (hopefully). It was utterly chaotic. I put this on the CEO.
Not just AA alot of if not most airlines. Also airports are having trouble as well without enough TSA.
I had a flight cancelled today for Monday, June 28. It was on a 737. I did not like the presented rebooking options and waited 2 hours for a call back (chat was 3 hours)
You got lucky on the 2 hour call back from AA. My wife and her sister were trying to get a call back from AA this past week to change a flight involving their mother. My wife's call back came after 8 hours, at 11 PM, at which point she was put on a 45 minute hold. Her sister's call back came after 13 hours, at 4 AM, at which point she was put on...
You got lucky on the 2 hour call back from AA. My wife and her sister were trying to get a call back from AA this past week to change a flight involving their mother. My wife's call back came after 8 hours, at 11 PM, at which point she was put on a 45 minute hold. Her sister's call back came after 13 hours, at 4 AM, at which point she was put on a 45 minute hold. They both ended up hanging up due to this pesky thing called "needing to sleep".
My wife ended up straightening things out by driving to the airport and talking to a ticketing agent in person. Zero people in line, and she got through the whole thing (including the drive to and from the airport) in about the amount of time she'd have been on hold after a call back.
I know why, being inside of an airline. None of us have enough crews or planes to support the flight expansion of this summer. People will be disappointed, but all of us (outside of cargo) ground to a halt for months. It won't be just AA. It'll be the Big 3 and every regional that supports them. Thousands of cancelations are coming this summer and it's not mismanagement. We lost 1/3 of all staff and...
I know why, being inside of an airline. None of us have enough crews or planes to support the flight expansion of this summer. People will be disappointed, but all of us (outside of cargo) ground to a halt for months. It won't be just AA. It'll be the Big 3 and every regional that supports them. Thousands of cancelations are coming this summer and it's not mismanagement. We lost 1/3 of all staff and the public is demanding more of our pre-pandemic numbers when we don't have the resources to do it. Some airlines are still pulling planes out of storage. And you can't just call up a furloughed pilot to say "you're back next week". It takes weeks and months of sim time to knock off that kind of rust. I predicted the public bashlash, and I know exactly what narratives we'll hear as to what "caused" this. AA is the first domino. Sorry to their PR department, but all of us are going to go through this. This was 9/11 x 10 for domestic airlines. Buckle up, and remember your seat cushion can be used as a floatation device when every airline is drowning through 2022.
every airline is not cancelling flights.
The way to deal with high demand and short resources is to raise fares. AA has offered sub $100 cross country fares for months.
Actually every airline is canceling flights and has been canceling flights for a long time for various reasons. Not a new thing here. Just was intensified by the pandemic.
Our Sept Delta flights have already been cancelled and changed. Also my husband’s next Thursday return trip on AA from Cali to FL was cancelled on Fri. He was traveling TDY w/a group. All left scrambling to get back to airport at the same time where rental had to be turned into & to same airport where they left out of where their cars are.
Hear! Hear! Thank you for patiently reweaving the thread of logic. Our society long ago became the "instant" society--instant coffee, instant tea, 1 minute microwave,etc.
The psychological skill of delayed gratification? Gone with the Schwinn!
Aircraft safety and pilot expertise(the 4 wk[?] brushup sim course are the concerns of the day---neither of which will be achieved overnight.
I think you should keep re-posting this all over this comment section! I made a post that friends of mine were pilots and one of them has been out for months. You’re right, it doesn’t take just a few days to get back in the seat! Personally I’d have never want a pilot that only had a few days training after being off for three months. Seems like a good time to take a road trip! LOL
Received word this morning that my flight this coming Thursday, 6/24, had been canceled.
I fly out of Columbia Missouri tommorow at 5 47p and haven't gotten a message yet it's going to Chicago then home to NY. I'm worried. We did not have a crew on Friday for the flight from Chicago to Columbia Missouri
If the airline are being secretive about reasons why, one possibility is that a number of pilots just got vaccinated. Rules are they can't fly for 48 hours after vaccination. Or maybe crew tested positive and taken off duty. That all comes under the umbrella of "operational reasons". There was a virus issue with a Fedex crew about a week ago.
This country is falling apart
It might be but Jetblue is doing just fine.
when was it together??
Before 1776
We had flights to NC from SF on Friday yesterday. They cancelled the first leg through Dallas but notified us Mon/Tue. So I assume it was a pilot or staff issue rather than something unexpected. We ended up going from Sacramento through PHX rather than a red eye through LAX.
I’ve flown American several times the last couple of weeks, cross country, all with a stop in Dallas. I am not kidding you when I say EVERY. SINGLE. FLIGHT. was late or delayed 1-4 hours. All due to unavailable crew.
We always go with American airlines. Non better.
Whatever you say. Not for me. Never again. They stopped being a great airline many yrs ago. Now a glorified bus service with cranky attendants!
"Non Better" Not sure if you were going for "Non-better" or "None better. If you meant to put the "E" at the end of "None" this would be wholly inaccurate
I flew from Dallas to Atlanta then back on Friday. Terrible experience!
They recalled all the furloughees and a nice chuck of those of us on Extended leaves. All of us who are returning from the pandemic leaves won't be online and available until 02 July.
Yea, no doubt that’s driving most of the delays. I don’t like the use of raw numbers to say how bad the problems are since it sounds like a lit, but that may actually be a very small percentage of their overall flights. There are people on the thread speculating it’s due to the weather and fires. Those have always been contributing factors now and in the past and airlines have learned to handle; however,...
Yea, no doubt that’s driving most of the delays. I don’t like the use of raw numbers to say how bad the problems are since it sounds like a lit, but that may actually be a very small percentage of their overall flights. There are people on the thread speculating it’s due to the weather and fires. Those have always been contributing factors now and in the past and airlines have learned to handle; however, the number of canceled flights points to an internal staffing or systems issue. The bottom line, it’s probably best to let the airlines work out the kinks as they ramp up again and find an alternate means of travel other then flying until 2022.
All smoke and mirrors from all the airlines.
Blame is all managements fault..
Keep giving management big bonuses and then tell employees that they are being furloughed.
It has got to be weather related - with severe weather in the Gulf and headed north.
Last Monday my flight from ORD to DCA the landing was aborted and then we diverted to RDU. IAD has severe wind sheer. Since the crew was over hours we were put up in Hotel by AA - very nice that did that.
No questions on accommodation - like weather - you are are your own. I...
It has got to be weather related - with severe weather in the Gulf and headed north.
Last Monday my flight from ORD to DCA the landing was aborted and then we diverted to RDU. IAD has severe wind sheer. Since the crew was over hours we were put up in Hotel by AA - very nice that did that.
No questions on accommodation - like weather - you are are your own. I was second in the line of 144 people (was in row 1 in F) and quickly got voucher. But I also got an electronic version via email. Looks like for Elites, AA has auto system that emails hotel and meal vouchers (per gate agent on continuation the next morning). Nice - I would not see UA doing that.
Only issue is hotel shuttles are either suspended or not running after midnight and Uber's and Taxi are hard to get.
Too many oversights. This country has lost the edge of being "on top of things" long ago, long before C-19.
If I hadn't had my health ruined by a botched surgery at 46, I would certainly return to where health, respect, education, manners and simple common sense weren't rare.
They don't want to pay to have things taken care of BEFORE causing people to be greatly inconvenienced. Actually, I doubt that anyone could...
Too many oversights. This country has lost the edge of being "on top of things" long ago, long before C-19.
If I hadn't had my health ruined by a botched surgery at 46, I would certainly return to where health, respect, education, manners and simple common sense weren't rare.
They don't want to pay to have things taken care of BEFORE causing people to be greatly inconvenienced. Actually, I doubt that anyone could be trusted with such a job nowadays.
Sorry, America, we're really beginning to lose respect all over the world.
sorry but no one respects this country they think the world looks up to them when actually they don't even think abt them
lets thank those new to the Us an those helping them , for changing so much without the approvls of anyone in wh house leadershp
Sounds like passengers need a good class action lawsuit to me. My daughter was forced to spend two nights in a Hawaiian airport because American kept “postponing”and cancelling her flight without so much as offering her a meal voucher, much less a motel bed to sleep in. She felt sorry for the elderly and people with small children.
Visa is accepted by phone for hotels etc. Step up and look after your child. It's always someone else at fault??
look at your own life before you criticize others.
how are things in your family, at work, relationships.
hope u aren't miserable.
life can be pretty good if u treat people well!
to np, you sound like i might knw who you are, tell me whats a , set dwn
Yeah its the airline that cancelled the flights...duh
I have a feeling this is lacking in detail as well as being at best a half truth.
I can tell you from experience, it is happening. Happened to me on June 8 and again on June 17. Not fun running from one part of the airport to the other.
Your daughter made the choice to do so instead of figuring out her situation! I chalk that down to bad parenting!
Let’s say it was weather related - invest in a good travel policy that covers delays and reimburses for hotels and meals….
Let’s say it was technical or scheduling issues - invest in a good travel policy that covers delays and reimburses for hotels and meals….
Is that peace of mind not worth 20-30 bucks to you? It is to me…..
I’m a frequent flyer so yes airlines will go out of their way to...
Let’s say it was weather related - invest in a good travel policy that covers delays and reimburses for hotels and meals….
Let’s say it was technical or scheduling issues - invest in a good travel policy that covers delays and reimburses for hotels and meals….
Is that peace of mind not worth 20-30 bucks to you? It is to me…..
I’m a frequent flyer so yes airlines will go out of their way to take care of us but instead of standing in line for two hours arguing with an agent you just take off and take care of yourself.
Believe it or not, travel policy issuers are insurance companies and they will investigate if the airline was responsible and the weather related reason was a lie and get reimbursement.
I cannot believe the nasty comments about your post and family !
My son’s flight was canceled today at MWY ,He was rescheduled in 3 days from now, given 250 dollars into his bank account ,and a 150 dollar voucher for future airfare anytime in the next year.
Decades ago I was stuck in JFK for 8 hours and given a generous voucher for food and drink.
Some still have good customer service.
Yes I feel sorry for the elderly and parents with kids too.
Well, there has been significant weather around the country as well. Huge storms and tornados in the Ohio Valley and parts of the Midwest. Tropical Storm moving through the southeast. And intense heat in the west. Not saying it's the sole cause but could be a factor compounding with others.
I agree, circumstances alter cases....
Don't overlook the fact that here in Arizona, we have some wildfires going on making a lot of haze plus the temp is supposed to hover near 119 degrees this week. The heat of the air plus the surface temp makes it difficult for certain planes to take off. So if any of those planes were heading for Sky Harbor. Here in Phoenix, it may also be a factor.
Will keep my fingers crossed that everyone's travel plans work out.
Start to fly 747s, 777s and Airbus giants DOMESTICLY, and solution post of the problem, stop flying 1000s of Yugos and Pinto's flys ( 320,319 737s ) across USA. Your airport hubs now look like Indonesian downtown with a lot of 3 wheels motorcycle. Correct me if wrong.
You are wrong.
They have been during most of the pandemic a lot of the domestic flying was on the widebody fleet. The 777/789 still flies domestic routes throughout the system today.
I wonder if the cancelations are focused on a particular base or are they just systemwide.
They are joining SW in making sure travelers have a miserable week. However, it isn't rocket science that if you schedule X amount of flights, you will need X amount of pilots. The flights have been scheduled for months and probably close to full for a long time, so it was completely foreseeable on their part.
Hopeful, my flight is on time - BWI-CLT-MLB on Tuesday morning.
It is a holiday weekend - it's Juneteenth today, and even before it became a federal holiday this week a lot of people had 3 day weekends for it and would have had time to plan travel.
Booked on BWI-CLT-SJO this Tuesday - both legs on 738’s. Uggh… fingers crossed.
Good luck!
Well the demand might be higher this weekend. I think many of the schools just got out last week so people are leaving on vacations. Also Juneteenth is now a federal holiday, so perhaps all those employees were flying too. This is concerning though--4th of July is not far off. . . Better get their act together!
You're right about schools out and families now travelling in huge numbers. That's why I'm avoiding planes till late summer And Let the airlines get back to more normal patterns
I flew American at beginning of june. From mobile to Duango,colo. 4 hours in air...took 19 hrs to get there. Delayed flights. Told us they had communication probs? Then they said they were trying to fix a broken part. Finally told us they were replacing broken part altogether (thank you). Told us we delayed over bad weather in DFW but when we got there, what do you know, sunny, no rain,dry ground. Finally got on...
I flew American at beginning of june. From mobile to Duango,colo. 4 hours in air...took 19 hrs to get there. Delayed flights. Told us they had communication probs? Then they said they were trying to fix a broken part. Finally told us they were replacing broken part altogether (thank you). Told us we delayed over bad weather in DFW but when we got there, what do you know, sunny, no rain,dry ground. Finally got on plane in mobile 3 hrs late in late AM. While in the air they email me a new flight out of DFW. It was scheduled 16 min after I was to land. They had just sent me off they knew I couldn't catch that flight. Got there to see my plane still connected to loading tunnel for 10 more min but wouldn't let me on. Waited 6 more hours talking to ppl , also also livid about their flight shenanigans. Finally go to my destination at 12 midnight. Flew for years with them. NEVER AGAIN! Charged me $1372.00 for flight then charged me for single checkin bag for the nightmare of a lifetime. They need to roll up their sidewalks and get out of the business!
Wow!!
I noticed the same thing when looking to book my vacation in mid July. Astronomical ticket fees, with insanely over time up to 36 hours. And I've been looking since March
That's disgusting. I won't fly them. I certainly won't with newly trained and certified pilots!. It's bad enough as is. People just drive....cut the money off from these rip off airlines and stay in hotels on your journeys. Give some one else the cash, they unlike the airlines will appreciate it. No more $$ for gas then these outrageous plane prices. Only to find all rental cars gone too. AND THEY are no joy either...
Fly on Juneteenth? It was just declared a holiday on Thursday!
The OMAAT Delta sycophants always say that American & United follow everything Delta does.
This time they’re right!
Ok this is getting out of hand. Inflation is high, resources are low which includes people who need to work. How is any business supposed to function if they don't have workers which is part of the supply chain. Supply is low low demand is high, next we are on to a recession like we have never seen before. America's priorities are all mixed up! Go to work people! America needs u!
Yet applying to multiple jobs, I'm being told the most hours I can work is 3 hours a week. Maybe businesses should actually call people back in for jobs?
People should go back to slave wages? Time to pony up. America got a taste of financial freedom and they are done with the way things were.
Wow, that's the dumbest comment I've read so far.
You sir, are a special kind of idiot.
Why would anyone return to work when they can get close to 40k a year for staying at home not working while collecting unemployment. Not sure why anyone here can complain about this staff shortage or any other industry facing staffing issues because this is what everyone voted for last November.
Nobody can do this, Steve. Every single state has a work search requirement as well as mandated employer reporting - so they know if you reject a job to stay on unemployment or aren't looking for a new job. Beyond that, several states have cut unemployment benefits so people make like 300 a week, if that.
Nope , they do it. They will come apply, then when called never answer.
No one checks on what they are up too.
So true!!
People just don't get it. We have been played at all levels. And it's been happening for decades starting with our education system.
America has been changed from the inside-out. Great job Russia, great job China. America is a shadow of the greatness we once were.
It's sad to see people wanting to be "taken care of" instead of going out and making their own way. My father was able to...
So true!!
People just don't get it. We have been played at all levels. And it's been happening for decades starting with our education system.
America has been changed from the inside-out. Great job Russia, great job China. America is a shadow of the greatness we once were.
It's sad to see people wanting to be "taken care of" instead of going out and making their own way. My father was able to support a family of 6 working a blue-collar job and a small, legal side hustle from his hobby.
No way can that be done today. And, it's because of the lies we've been sold over the years. The lies of needing that new Subaru, lie that women should be ahamed if they do not have a "career" (read - being a slave to a corporation) and not raise their children - letting the government teach them right and wrong, the lies that tell us wrong is right and right is wrong. It's all coming together for the Marxist/Lenonists. Decades of brainwashing and creating a pussified generation of American men who cannot defend themselves out of a wet paper bag.
We are finally at a point where Americans gladly take unemployment instead of working b/c the believe they are intitled to the benefit. They don't care what is does to the economy or their naighbor. They just want "theirs".
We have entered the era of social engineering, where pople are smart enough to run the machines yet dumb enough to not question why. And certainly not brave enough to buck the system, Peer shaming is at an all-time high.
George Carlin was right. The American Dream is dead, and anyone who still believes in it is still asleep.
#WakeUpAmerica
For info pilots make close to $150 000 a year plus all the benefits and not $40 000 !
Julia
Haha, way to go, That Guy.
In fairness, AA just promised to destroy the value of their awards. That is a straight Delta copy.