Big Savings On Mixed Cabin Itineraries From Australia to Europe

Earlier this week, Ben wrote about how to save money by booking mixed-class itineraries where you book business (or first class) one way, and economy the other way. He used USA to Europe as a routing example. As soon as I saw the headline, I immediately thought of the ‘trick’ many Australians have been using to get to Europe for years. This is slightly different but potentially an even better deal.

Let me explain.

Australia is expensive

Australia seems to be expensive for just about everything, and premium airfares to Europe are no exception. Have a look at return business class fares from Sydney to Paris, booked three months in advance, vs. the same dates in the other direction (Paris to Sydney) (all amounts in AUD$):

Not great connections, and not my first choice of airlines
The world’s best airlines, but even more expensive

vs:

Lower prices, better connections and much better airlines if originating from Europe

The trick

You’ll notice that all of these listed airlines with the best prices (in either direction) operate via Asia. Asia has for a long time been a popular transit point for Australians headed to Europe, though the Middle East has quickly become very popular too.

Depending on where you are connecting, most flights from Australia to Southeast Asia are only about seven to eight hours in length, followed by a much longer flight from Asia to Europe. Though some of the bigger airlines like Singapore and Cathay Pacific offer flights from Australia to Asia and then to Europe at all different times of the day, perhaps the most common schedule is to take an afternoon flight to Asia and then an overnight flight to Europe, arriving in Europe in the morning.

The trick is if you can ‘handle’ an economy flight from Australia to Asia (return), it is usually MUCH cheaper to then fly business class onto Europe.

Using the Sydney to Paris example with the same dates as above (AUD$):

Combined this with a (separate) economy flight to get you to and from Asia (I’ve removed LCC options, but they would be even cheaper):

Combined, you are looking at as low as AUD$3,000 return for the mixed-class itinerary vs. more than AUD$5,000 for the fare all in business class. So you can save about 40% by sitting in economy for the shorter legs.

Ben’s examples earlier this week also gave savings of about 40%, however as his were business one-way, economy the other (so 50/50 time in each cabin), mine are economy Australia to Asia return, and then Asia to Europe for the longer legs in business return, so you get much more ‘time’ in business class than you have to endure in economy (so 60/40 time in each cabin or up to 70/30), especially if choosing Singapore or Kuala Lumpur.

If you are originating from Perth it can be as little as 4 – 5 hours to Southeast Asia, which is easily doable in economy.

Southeast Asia is much closer to Australia than Western Europe

Now some caveats

You’ve probably noticed that the itineraries above are hardly ideal. I admit that! If you want a comfortable, one-stop option all in business class, on a premium carrier then by all means book Qatar, Cathay Pacific, etc. But be aware you will be paying dearly for it.

You may have noticed/realised from my mixed-cabin examples above that:

  • The Asia to Europe options are not nonstop, meaning at least two stops from Australia to Europe, maybe more. That’s because any airline operating a non-stop service between two cities is going to charge a premium over competitors operating an indirect one-stop flight
  • While the economy options I’ve listed are good quality, household airline names you may hold status with (which will make the economy legs far more pleasant), some of the Asia to Europe carriers are not carriers you would think to fly, and don’t belong to an alliance, so mileage earning opportunities may be limited
  • You are booking two separate itineraries, so will need to build in a buffer (but equally, hello stopover!) as you won’t be protected if a delay in itinerary one causes you to miss itinerary two
  • Many flights from Asia back to Australia are overnight, which is not going to be pleasant in economy, although carriers like Singapore and Cathay Pacific always have ‘day flights’ to Australia
Gulf Air Business Class – not too shabby!

Bottom line

I would never book this option for my parents, because it is too complicated for them and they would probably prefer a one-stop premium economy itinerary on a reliable airline all the way, which would run about AUD$4,000 per person. It’s definitely a bit of stuffing around, but if you have a sense of adventure and want a proper lie-flat bed for the longer overnight flights for a cheaper price than premium economy the whole way, think about this option.

I’ve flown economy from Melbourne to Paris with Singapore Airlines before, and while the shorter afternoon flight up to Singapore was quick, pleasant, and dare I say enjoyable, the 12+ hour overnight flight to Paris was hell, and I was wishing I had a lie-flat seat for that journey.

Have you booked a mixed itinerary flight to Europe?

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JP Guest

Oman Air has mixed class tickets from Australia to Europe for about $3K or so - amazing value. Apparently you fly economy between Australia and KL with MH then Oman Air biz from there to UK/Europe. That's a steal!

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JENNIFER MCMAHON Guest

Are there travel agents in Australia who will a) look out for cheap business class fares from Asia to Europe & b) book it for you? We are in our seventies & keen to do this next year. My husband will be closer to eighty than seventy then & feels very cramped on long flights. We don't mind the Australia to Asia section in economy ( I usually book him an exit row seat as he's tall), Think we'd prefer 5 star airlines though. It looks quite a complicated business to do it yourself. Cheers Jennie PS very good of you to provide a service like this!

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Geoff Guest

On a slightly different scale, we did a similar thing last year. BNE to HKG using Alaskan Airlines points to fly CX in J. From there we redemed QF points and flew EK first to Rome and saved a bucketload in taxes/points by routing out of HKG. The difference in taxes/fees was much more then the cost of the Alaskan Miles to fly CX in J.

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Chris Guest

Also re @Azamaraal, the new Malindo MEL-DPS flight will be a far better option than JQ in every conceivable way.

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Chris Guest

James, the situation you describe is also a perfect use for ScootBiz and AirAsia X business class for positioning into Asia - in fact I'm sitting on TZ19 from Melbourne to Singapore as we speak, $460 each way for what is in effect a premium economy day flight. Depending on routings and destinations, the cheapest Asian ports are usually KUL, MNL, BKK, SGN and ICN.

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