Japan Airlines has been modernizing its long haul fleet with new Airbus A350-1000s, which offer an incredible passenger experience:
- Japan Airlines’ A350 first class is spectacular, and I rank it as one of the two best first class products in the world
- Japan Airlines’ A350 business class is excellent, among my favorite business class experiences out there
This is a plane worth seeking out, so understandably, many OMAAT readers may be wondering how to redeem miles for these cabins. The good news is that it’s absolutely possible to redeem miles for Japan Airlines’ new A350 first and business class. The bad news is that it may take a bit of effort.
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Japan Airlines premium award space when schedule opens
Japan Airlines is quite consistent when it comes to making award space available. On international, long haul flights, Japan Airlines generally makes one first class award seat available as soon as the schedule opens, and at least two business class award seats available. This applies to routes operated by both the Airbus A350-1000 and Boeing 777-300ER.
Japan Airlines opens its schedule 360 days out, so you’ll immediately see those award seats available at that point. It’s not only bookable by Japan Airlines Mileage Bank members, but also by members of select partner frequent flyer programs.
This brings us to the challenge, as I’ve written in the past about when airlines open award seats. While Japan Airlines opens its schedule 360 days in advance, American AAdvantage only opens its schedule 331 days out, and Alaska Mileage Plan only opens its schedule 330 days out.
In other words, you couldn’t use Alaska miles or American miles until those respective windows, meaning you have a roughly one month delay with accessing that award space. In almost all cases, that first and business class award space will be booked by then.
I’m finding that more often than not, that one first class award seat on a particular flight is snagged within hours of becoming available, and sometimes within minutes. One has to wonder if those seats are being legitimately booked, or if there might be some brokers somehow locking in these seats, and then finding a way to monetize that. The consistency and speed with which these are being booked makes me think there might be some funny business going on.
Why Cathay Pacific Asia Miles is probably your best bet
While it would be nice to directly have Japan Airlines Mileage Bank miles, the reality is that those miles are hard to come by, as the program doesn’t partner with any major transferable points currencies. So you want to find a points currency that partners with Japan Airlines and transferable points currencies, and that opens its schedule 360 days out.
There’s one program that fits the bill — Cathay Pacific Asia Miles. The program opens its calendar 360 days out, Cathay Pacific also belongs to oneworld, and the frequent flyer program partners with Amex Membership Rewards, Bilt Rewards, Capital One, and Citi ThankYou.
Cathay Pacific Asia Miles allows Japan Airlines first and business class awards to be booked directly through its website, and you should see one first class award seat and two business class award seats as soon as the schedule opens.
Japan Airlines currently flies its A350s from Tokyo (HND) to Dallas (DFW), London (LHR), and New York (JFK), and in all markets, award pricing is the same. One-way, you’ll pay 135,000 Cathay Pacific miles for first class, and 89,000 Cathay Pacific miles for business class. There are also a few hundred bucks in taxes and carrier imposed surcharges (and if departing the UK, you’re also on the hook for the Air Passenger Duty).
Obviously this isn’t quite as good of a value as you’d get if redeeming American miles (60,000-80,000 American miles plus no carrier imposed surcharges), but at least you have access to availability.
A couple of other important things to note:
- While Cathay Pacific’s award search feature often says “only a few seats left,” that’s not always accurate, and it says that even if there’s only one award seat available (like in first class)
- In the calendar function you’ll see the price of 160,000 miles listed for first class, but that’s the pricing in the event that there were first class award space on Cathay Pacific
What about award space closer to departure?
If you don’t want to (or can’t) snag a Japan Airlines first or business class class award a year out, do you have any shot of still finding space?
Back in the day, Japan Airlines would consistently make unsold first and business class seats available as awards as the departure date approached. Unfortunately for over a year now, that’s no longer the case, and the airline doesn’t consistently release unsold seats as awards as the departure date approaches.
In first class, I find that the airline nowadays typically releases that one seat. In business class, more seats are sometimes opened up, but not necessarily with any discernible pattern.
So, do you have any chance of scoring a first class award through American AAdvantage? In theory, it’s absolutely possible. If someone cancels the award they book right when the schedule opens, it could be bookable through another partner program as well at a later date. However, expect for it to take a lot of work.
In business class, I’d say that it’s still difficult, but not quite as challenging as in first class. We do sometimes see more seats open as the departure date approaches.
The good news is that the American AAdvantage award calendar makes it pretty easy to search award availability across a wide variety of dates, so it’s not like checking is complicated.
Bottom line
Japan Airlines has introduced some of the world’s best first and business class products on its new Airbus A350-1000s. The good news is that it’s absolutely possible to redeem miles for these products, as the airline pretty consistently makes award seats available as soon as the schedule opens.
The trick is that Japan Airlines opens its schedule 360 days out, so you’ll need miles with a currency that also has access to award space 360 days out. This is why booking through Cathay Pacific Asia Miles might be your best bet, because the program has access to award space right away.
Through Cathay Pacific, you can expect to pay 135,000 miles for first class or 89,000 miles for business class, with carrier imposed surcharges being added to the total. While this isn’t the world’s greatest bargain, it is the best realistic option for booking these seats.
What’s your take on Japan Airlines’ A350 first and business class award availability?
I’ve consistently had success with booking 2 JL F with AA miles 10-7 days before departure on LHR routes.
I booked 2 business class tickets using Cathay Asia miles 360 days out as soon as they opened. I was watching for a few days and had to act fast as daily the 2 seats seemed to disappear quickly each day.. That said, Amex had a 10% bonus on Cathay Asia miles going. The fees are a little high, but not relative to the points needed and the quality of the JAL product. Looking forward to our trip in Oct-25!
been wanting to fly the new JAL A350-1000 in F and found seats via Alaska until May and since then not a single seat. it must mean alaska is just not getting any seats anymore. this on top of other devaluation and lack of partner connectivity is making me dump alaska for AA
I was able to snag DFW-HND in the A350-1000 first class just as a fluke. A random seat opened up and it aligned with the week that I was planning on going anyways, so immediately booked it as soon as I got the Seats.Aero alert.
For some reason I had to book ORD-DFW-HND, as it was the only option available. Fast forward to the ORD-DFW, and the flight gets delayed by 3.5 hrs for maintenance....
I was able to snag DFW-HND in the A350-1000 first class just as a fluke. A random seat opened up and it aligned with the week that I was planning on going anyways, so immediately booked it as soon as I got the Seats.Aero alert.
For some reason I had to book ORD-DFW-HND, as it was the only option available. Fast forward to the ORD-DFW, and the flight gets delayed by 3.5 hrs for maintenance. My connection in DFW is 2.5 hrs. Sh*t....
Fortunately they were able to rebook me onto ORD-IND-JFK-HND, and I caught the JL3 redeye from New York to Tokyo in the A350-1000 First Class.
I managed to snag a HND-JFK F flight through AA a couple of months after the schedule opened. It must’ve been a cancellation but it was quite fortuitous as it was right around the date I needed. I was kind of just checking for sh*ts and giggles but was thrilled when it popped up.
Hi Lucky…
JAL partners with Marriott Bonvoy Points, so in theory that is a transferable points currency. This is what I normally do.
Also, you are forgetting to mention probably one of the easiest ways to do F is to use JAL Miles to upgrade from Business to First. I have done this several times and for the most part as long as there is A inventory available there is Upgrade inventory. Now that is...
Hi Lucky…
JAL partners with Marriott Bonvoy Points, so in theory that is a transferable points currency. This is what I normally do.
Also, you are forgetting to mention probably one of the easiest ways to do F is to use JAL Miles to upgrade from Business to First. I have done this several times and for the most part as long as there is A inventory available there is Upgrade inventory. Now that is not 100% the case but for the most part I have been able to confirm this many times. I have flown the product twice (but cancel one ticket in the past and also rebooked one of the flights I booked).
Hello Serge, greatly appreciate your insight. Is the points upgrade applicable to a CX award booking?
No. It would have to be a JL booking.
I’m not sure it’s necessarily funny business. JAL mileage bank is a very popular program in Japan and it’s not beyond belief that one of the 37m people in Tokyo tries to snag the first class seat when it becomes available a year out.
Good luck to me trying to get 4 last minute J tickets back this summer :)
"Through Cathay Pacific, you can expect to pay 135,000 miles for first class or 89,000 miles for business class, with carrier imposed surcharges being added to the total. While this isn’t the world’s greatest bargain, it is the best realistic option for booking these seats."
Cathay also charges significant change and cancellation fees on award tickets. Those same fees are much less if awards are redeemed via Qatar or Finnair (especially Qatar), both of which...
"Through Cathay Pacific, you can expect to pay 135,000 miles for first class or 89,000 miles for business class, with carrier imposed surcharges being added to the total. While this isn’t the world’s greatest bargain, it is the best realistic option for booking these seats."
Cathay also charges significant change and cancellation fees on award tickets. Those same fees are much less if awards are redeemed via Qatar or Finnair (especially Qatar), both of which also open their award booking schedules 360 days out.
Is that true across the board, or only on partner flights? I had a redemption with Asia Miles (for CX flights) earlier this year. Needed to change the date - called them up and it was done in a few minutes with no penalties or additional charges.
Last minute business class availability is showing up for JAL on Seats.Aero for Alaska. I know they don't have the transfer partners, but I feel like focusing on Cathay and AA only in this article leaves out the potential for scoring a last-minute award through other channels. That being said I am looking at other routes, so I don't know if it also applies to the a350.
Beware of Alaska and JAL redemptions. I just went from syd to hnd and back and Alaska showed 9 prem economy seats every day which could not be booked.
American had 2-3 first class seats available in both directions on multiple days which were bookable but Alaska never showed this space on even one day. Sad.
A couple of things to note in your thread:
The A351 will not ply the Tokyo London route until January 2, 2025.
I managed to snag two one ways on JAL in First Class for travel next September using AA miles at 80K each leg. Total cost paid was $49 plus some cents for the taxes. One F seat showed up about 330 and the other 329 days out. Since then, I’ve been checking...
A couple of things to note in your thread:
The A351 will not ply the Tokyo London route until January 2, 2025.
I managed to snag two one ways on JAL in First Class for travel next September using AA miles at 80K each leg. Total cost paid was $49 plus some cents for the taxes. One F seat showed up about 330 and the other 329 days out. Since then, I’ve been checking seat availability periodically out of curiosity. I’ve noticed that Business Class seats tend to be released consistently 1-5 days before departure, with First Class seats occasionally becoming available as well.
Completely unrelated to this article but this is something that many avid travelers may like especially those who like elite status.
https://upgradedpoints.com/news/gha-discovery-status-match/
This is an article worth reading if you want elite status with GHA.
besides Cathay Asia miles, a honorable mention should be given to Finnair Avios. Finnair also has award calendar opening up at 360 days (vs BA at 355 days) similar to Cathay. I was able to book JAL A350-1000 on JFK-HND next year, one seat in First 135k Asia miles & one seat in Business 94.5k Finnair Avios (=73k Chase when there's 30% bonus).
Also 1:1 transfer with CapitalOne!
Totally agree that it’s a little ridiculous seats are snapped up within minutes. I tried grabbing seats the minute things opened, for my honeymoon. And while I saw the seats and filled in passenger info, when I tried to progress to payments the page errored out. Searched again and everything was gone. This was all within a minute of release on multiple days. Either funny business or our community is catching on and booking early.
Seconded about CX being the best chance to book. I had specific dates I needed for March 2025 and was able to secure them through CX when they dropped at 12 am JST, although I was only able to find J availability. I agree that something odd might be going on with F bookings, as I literally refreshed within seconds of release for my dates, and both times F was already gone, though I'll also...
Seconded about CX being the best chance to book. I had specific dates I needed for March 2025 and was able to secure them through CX when they dropped at 12 am JST, although I was only able to find J availability. I agree that something odd might be going on with F bookings, as I literally refreshed within seconds of release for my dates, and both times F was already gone, though I'll also mention that desktop site did seem terribly glitchy at the time. I'm definitely going to try to change one of my bookings to F via AA though if I see it close-in.