Delta To Add Premium Select Seats On All Widebody Flights To Europe – Yay?

Delta To Add Premium Select Seats On All Widebody Flights To Europe – Yay?

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On the heels of their quiet devaluation of the Premium Select product earlier this month, Delta announced on last Thursday’s earning call that they plan to expand their Premium Select cabin, with all widebody flights to Europe offering those seats by 2021. According to USA Today:

Delta’s rollout of its Premium Select cabin comes as it projects a $350 million revenue gain this year from premium seats, as an 8 percent gain in seating during the second quarter led to a 20 percent gain in revenue, executives said Thursday.

The categories include Delta One suites, Premium Select and Comfort Plus, according to [airline president Glen] Hauenstein.

Expansion plans continue. Delta plans to offer Premium Select, which has been available in half its Pacific markets and is being added to trans-Atlantic flights this year, on all widebody flights to Europe by 2021, Hauenstein said.

The change is definitely being spun as a positive, particularly for business travelers who are limited to booking economy seats through their corporate travel policy. The article goes on to state that:

The move came in response to corporations limiting business travelers to coach seats, despite a willingness by travelers to pay more themselves.

“Quite honestly, we haven’t made it that easy for them,” Hauenstein said. “As we continue to roll out different ways to buy those products, we will see another explosion in demand as customers will use miles to sit in cabins where they want to sit.”

Delta expects to offer the option for upgrading seats with loyalty miles by the end of 2018.

So, is adding Premium Select seats a good thing?

Like any major airline change, it depends who you ask. While improvements to existing products can be a good thing, it really only matters if you get to use said products.

Premium Select seats, which are billed as their own separate cabin of service, serve as a replacement to Delta’s Comfort+, which is basically a souped-up economy experience with extra legroom (despite Delta’s best effort to market it otherwise).

For Diamond and Platinum Medallion members, this is likely a negative change under the current program. Diamonds and Platinums get complimentary access to Comfort+ seats on international reservations, but receive no such love for the Premium Select cabin.

Diamond Medallions can use their Global Upgrade Certificates to upgrade into Premium Select where it’s available (but this is a horrible value for GUCs, so please don’t – unless they’re expiring, like, tomorrow).

So, unless this rollout is accompanied by other changes to the program, you’re likely to see more Delta higher-tier elites flying in the main cabin on international flights.

At least their 777s are remaining configured in the rare 3-3-3 arrangement.

Upgrading with miles 

This is a nice change in theory, especially since Delta award ticket prices are pretty bonkers these days. That said, their current policy on upgrading international flights with miles is pretty restrictive, with only expensive Y, B, M, H, Q and K fare classes eligible for upgrade.

And – I know this is going to come as a huge surprise – Delta doesn’t publish the costs for mileage upgrades, although you can read about the program in its current existence here.

So while I’m hoping that the number of miles to upgrade to Premium Select is reasonable, I’m not holding my breath.

Award redemptions 

It is nice to be able to book awards into Delta’s Premium Select, as many airlines (including United and American) don’t have premium economy redemptions available yet.

That said, the prices can be absolutely bananas, with Premium Select awards consistently costing 165,000 SkyMiles one-way from the East Coast to Europe:

And tickets to Asia costing even more, sometimes upward of 200,000 SkyMiles one-way:

For what it’s worth, the best theoretical redemption values for Premium Select these days seem to be 70,000 SkyMiles one-way to Asia, or 64,000 SkyMiles one-way to Europe.

Oh, and in case you’re wondering, award tickets are no longer booking connecting domestic flights into first class, like they were last week. Sad.

Bottom line

A lot can happen between now and 2021 – the current SkyMiles program is vastly different than it was three years ago, and I’m certain it will change again in three years’ time. But anytime a change is made due to a projected $350 million dollar revenue gain in premium seat sales, it tends to mean good news for shareholders, and less-good news for those of us trying to maximize the value of miles and loyalty programs.

While I’d absolutely rather spend eight hours in a Premium Select seat over typical Comfort+ or Main Cabin, I’m not convinced that the fare differential or upgrade instruments will be worth the extra width and leg room.

So I’ll withhold judgment for now, but this Diamond Medallion is not breaking out the celebratory fireworks just yet.

What do you make of the expansion of Delta’s Premium Select product? Is it a good thing, a bad thing, or just a thing? 

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  1. Carolyn Young Guest

    I flew from Atlanta to South Korea in Delta's premium select cabin in June and absolutely loved it. For long overseas flights it's definitely worth it. Not only was the increased leg room and reclined seats more comfortable than comfort plus, but the food service and other comfort measures made the additional price worth it. For those of us who cannot afford to pay business class prices, this is it. Thank you Delta! Now I'm...

    I flew from Atlanta to South Korea in Delta's premium select cabin in June and absolutely loved it. For long overseas flights it's definitely worth it. Not only was the increased leg room and reclined seats more comfortable than comfort plus, but the food service and other comfort measures made the additional price worth it. For those of us who cannot afford to pay business class prices, this is it. Thank you Delta! Now I'm hoping that premium select will soon be offered for flights from Atlanta to Johannesburg. This is a 16 hour flight and we usually go there once or twice a year.

  2. Jim Guest

    I'm confused -- is "Premium Select" the same as Comfort+ with a different name, or will it involve different seats and/or service? You wrote it will serve as a "replacement" for Comfort+.

    I booked our colleague on Comfort+ a few months ago on NRT-ATL and he said he noticed no real service difference versus economy and it wasn't worth the money in his opinion.

  3. JRMW Guest

    Personally, I value seat width over seat pitch

    I’d rather sit in a 2-2 configuration with a wide seat and short pitch compared to a 3-3 configuration with 4 extra inches of leg room

    Given that, Premium economy is more attractive to me than comfort plus

    The problem, as always, is Delta pricing

    Double the price for a few inches of width? Uh ok. Whatever

  4. john Guest

    Adding PS is of course a good thing in and of itself. The problems adding PS creates, such as no C+, fewer operational upgrades from economy because elites and non elites will be tempted to use miles to get out of the horrible economy seats, and the devaluation of the PS experience far outweigh the benefit of adding PS. These changes may cause some victims (customers) to leave, but delta calculates that will be more...

    Adding PS is of course a good thing in and of itself. The problems adding PS creates, such as no C+, fewer operational upgrades from economy because elites and non elites will be tempted to use miles to get out of the horrible economy seats, and the devaluation of the PS experience far outweigh the benefit of adding PS. These changes may cause some victims (customers) to leave, but delta calculates that will be more than made up for by the additional blood it can suck from those who remain. That giant sucking sound grows ever louder and is music to delta's ears.

  5. PolarBear Guest

    So what will happen when these internationally-configured 767s are doing domestic runs?

  6. Andre Guest

    I think most people agree that introduction of premium economy awards will simply lead to the increase in price (devaluation) of business class rewards. The only benefit premium select provides is for people who wanted a premium economy option they could pay for.

  7. Marc Guest

    I'm so sick of their ridiculous cat-and-mouse award pricing and their intentional, relentless obfuscation of the program that I'm considering burning all my miles on one final Pay-With-Miles ticket, canceling my Delta card, and then taking my business permanently elsewhere (Southwest, Norwegian?). Shame, since I'm only now beginning to understand Delta's oxymoronic class names: Comfort+, Premium Select...yeah, right.

  8. AT Guest

    you now what's bananas, DL pricing SEA-LAX for an early august date at 100,000 and 175,000 for a oneway economy and first class booking, respectively.

  9. JAY Guest

    And G fare is always upgradable (from PS to suite)

  10. Geoff Guest

    While This might seem like a decent way to return from Europe(daytime flight), these seats will likely gobble up capacity. Knowing Delta, this change will not end well except, as you said, for shareholders. Given the stock price lately they need something.
    By 2021 Delta One will likely price out at 125-150k one way(low level) while these new seats will take place of current D1 at 82k(low level). There will be no limit to how high they might go. Sadly.

  11. Mike Guest

    Yet another reason why I refuse to fly Delta. Glad I’m Exec Plat with AA. Delta continues to give me absolutely no reason to choose them over the competito. And I live in Minneapolis!

  12. Daniel from Cosmo Guest

    US airlines are too far behind on premium economy. While this is a nice change from Delta's perspective, it would have been nice to see it sooner.

  13. Tom Guest

    I don't buy this explanation: "The move came in response to corporations limiting business travelers to coach seats, despite a willingness by travelers to pay more themselves."

    I think what drives this is many corporate travel policies allowing Economy+ for longer flights. Mine allows this for flights greater than 6 hours. Airlines have just gone full circle and made the old "first class" into the new "business class" and the old business class into premium economy.

  14. Steph OMAAT

    @Gabe - You're totally right (on both counts), just updated. Thanks!

  15. Gabe Guest

    Hey Steph,

    Not that it makes a big difference, but you can also upgrade K fares with SkyMiles internationally.

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Carolyn Young Guest

I flew from Atlanta to South Korea in Delta's premium select cabin in June and absolutely loved it. For long overseas flights it's definitely worth it. Not only was the increased leg room and reclined seats more comfortable than comfort plus, but the food service and other comfort measures made the additional price worth it. For those of us who cannot afford to pay business class prices, this is it. Thank you Delta! Now I'm hoping that premium select will soon be offered for flights from Atlanta to Johannesburg. This is a 16 hour flight and we usually go there once or twice a year.

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Jim Guest

I'm confused -- is "Premium Select" the same as Comfort+ with a different name, or will it involve different seats and/or service? You wrote it will serve as a "replacement" for Comfort+. I booked our colleague on Comfort+ a few months ago on NRT-ATL and he said he noticed no real service difference versus economy and it wasn't worth the money in his opinion.

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JRMW Guest

Personally, I value seat width over seat pitch I’d rather sit in a 2-2 configuration with a wide seat and short pitch compared to a 3-3 configuration with 4 extra inches of leg room Given that, Premium economy is more attractive to me than comfort plus The problem, as always, is Delta pricing Double the price for a few inches of width? Uh ok. Whatever

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