British Airways Threatens To Fire All Pilots, Rehire Some For Less Pay

The most expensive low cost carrier is what they have become. It’s about profit and shares and not the people who work for them or their customers. They have always had a sound reputation but this whole debarkle leaves one asking what will be left, what is salvaged? An old airline with pilots cutting corners, inexperienced crew??

How much could BA save if the Board of Directors fired all of its senior management who chose not to sign on for compensation packages at 50% of the previous value?

I hope people in Waterside are reading this thread. It just shows how bad their timing is over the redundancy agenda and how people perceives BA now as a cold hearted profiteer. BA does not appeal to me right now, even if they have a huge premium sale. It will be definitely BA's fault when pax turn their backs and fly with other airlines.

@ Max - I simply can't stand by and read any more of your ill informed nonsense without chiming in. As you are obviously not a BA employee, British, or, I would hazard an educated guess, not even resident in the UK, please tell us where on earth have you got all your ideas from? I do have issues with just about everything you've written, but there are two of your claims in particular that can objectively be disproven by facts: - Firstly, you have some weird notion that the market rate for new crew is £10-12k p.a. This is actually lower than the UK minimum wage for an 18 year old in any type of full-time employment. I challenge you to identify the airline that you believe is therefore illegally paying below the national minimum wage and creating this so-called market rate. - Secondly, having made a quite ridiculous statement about BA crew getting free confirmed tickets whenever positioning to report at base, you continue to claim that the Government takes the lion's share of a £91 staff standby ticket MAN-LHR-MAN, and that's after you barely and ungraciously acknowledged your earlier mistake when you claimed it was 90%. In actual fact, the HMG share is the APD of £26 (2 x £13 as it involves two domestic departures). After the actual £32 fare element, the remainder of the extras are made up of various fees and airport security charges that go elsewhere. That makes HMG's share about 40% of the total. Not 90%, not 66%, so your point is NOT still valid. I just don't get why you bizarrely seem to think that you know better than what actual BA employees who do the job are telling you, and why you continue to dig yourself deeper and deeper into a hole, making a total arse of yourself in the process. The irony that I have fed your obvious troll appetite by spending valuable minutes writing this response is not lost on me. Your posts should simply be ignored.

Max you are talking utter crap. BA staff are not paid above the market rate, pilots are paid according to an average that is benchmarked with other legacy airlines across Europe but they are vastly underpaid in comparison to the likes of KLM or Lufthansa. Yes it’s true some senior cabin crew are paid up to 60K but they are but a handful, the mix fleet contract pays a basic of 14K which is nothing more than a subsistence salary, many of the crews struggle to make ends meet, commuting vast distances in cars and sometimes having to sleep in them. To make any comparison with a graduate wage is completely disingenuous. Employees do not get a free travel allowance enabling them to commute by air, they pay for the privilege of commuting in the form of a standby ticket that only allows travel upon there being a vacant seat available. I think there are some posts on this forum that reflect the nations disdain towards the success obtained by a segment of society that has been hard fought for and won by hard work and diligence. We are a nation of losers that seek to wallow in a pool of group think mediocrity and Max’s post typifies that!