Best Way To Redeem Miles For First Class Between The US And Asia?

I’m all about maximizing premium cabin awards, whether it’s finding the most direct routing, the most fun routing, the routing which maximizes Krug consumption, etc. 😉 “Best” means different things to different people. So I figured it would be fun to look at reader Todd‘s specific situation, as he’s planning a special trip to Asia in March 2017 (and hopefully this helps others planning trips in similar situations):

We’ll be taking a special trip to Asia in March 2017 and I’d love some help ranking the most spectacular or most aspirational flight options.

My shortlist includes:

  • Emirates A380 in F
  • Singapore A380 in F
  • Singapore B777-300ER in F
  • Cathay Pacific B777 in F
  • Korean A380 in F
  • Korean B747-8i in F

I was also considering Japan Airlines, ANA, and Asiana, but the above seemed the most exciting and special after some research.

How would you rank my list? Would you include Japan Airlines, ANA, or Asiana ahead of any of the ones in my list?

The only one I’ve already flown is Emirates A380 in F but I’m really excited to share that with my husband, so it’s definitely still on my list.

Thanks very much for your help — this is going to be a special trip for us and I want to get it right!  We have all the necessary miles/points on Alaska, American, Citi, Chase, Amex, etc.  We’ll be flying from Seattle, but positioning to SFO, LAX, or YVR to have access to the best products.  We’ll fly to BKK and return from HKG; we have a cruise in the middle from Singapore to Hong Kong.  So really just looking for the most incredible flights from the US to Asia (BKK, though really mostly concerned with the longhaul segments) and back (from HKG, though really mostly concerned with the longhaul segments).

Which airlines have two first class award seats?

The first question isn’t even which airline offers the best product, but rather which might have two first class award seats available. It’s still outside the booking window for March 2017, and patterns can change, but here are my general thoughts on two first class award seats:

Which option would I select?

Given the situation — that it’s a special trip, they aren’t in a rush, and seem to want to have fun — I think flying Emirates first class in one direction is an absolute no brainer. I think Emirates first class is the “funnest” first class product out there, between the onboard shower, onboard bar, and all the over-the-top bling.

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And I’ll take it a step further — Emirates first class is more fun if you’re traveling with someone than alone. Unlike other modern first class products, the great thing about Emirates is that you can sit next to someone and be able to talk to them, so you can really enjoy the full experience together.

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My first choice in the other direction would be Singapore Suites Class. I mean, what’s not to love about a double bed in the sky?

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Singapore Airlines has incredible service and food as well. The question is whether you’ll be able to find availability. For example, several weeks ago I wrote about how Singapore was making two Suites Class awards available between the US and Asia on many flights if booking as the schedule opens.

I don’t see that availability right now, in the sense that I don’t see flights when the schedule opens with two Suites Class seats. Todd still has a bit over a month before the schedule opens, so that could change. I’d keep a close eye on that.

Singapore-First-Class

The tricky thing about Singapore Airlines is that they don’t allow holds, and points transfers aren’t instant. This presents an issue, since you don’t want to speculatively transfer points, only to have the space be gone. So in Todd’s shoes I’d be monitoring, and if there’s space for the previous few days, I’d probably speculatively transfer points in hopes of snagging those seats, as you should be able to transfer them in less than 24 hours.

But what if Singapore Suites isn’t readily available? What would my second option be for travel in the other direction?

My initial instinct is to say Singapore 777 first class, though in looking at availability, I don’t see more space in Singapore 777 first class than I see in Singapore A380 Suites Class. In other words, if Singapore makes more awards available over the next several weeks (which is very possible) I’d select the A380, but it doesn’t seem your odds are necessarily better of even snagging space on the 777.

Singapore-777-Suites

I’d say my next option is Korean Air first class. Why?

  • Award availability is typically wide open for Korean Air first class
  • There are no peak season dates in March, which is one of the few challenges when it comes to redeeming Korean Air miles
  • You could fly A380 first class all the way to Bangkok, given that Korean Air operates an A380 between Seoul Incheon and Bangkok as well as Hong Kong
  • Korean Air allows free changes up until departure, so this gives you a lot of flexibility, and also lets you switch to something else if there’s another option which pops up that you prefer

Korean-Air-First-Class

But I’d mix it up. Why not fly the 747-8 from San Francisco to Seoul, which offers the more private first class product, and then the A380 from Seoul to Bangkok, which offers the A380 first class product you’d otherwise get from the US?

Korean-Air-New-First-Class

Bottom line

When it comes to flying first class internationally, there’s not really a way to go wrong. However, if I had to make the ultimate “first world decision,” Emirates first class would always be my first choice, especially if traveling with someone for a special trip. After that I’d choose Singapore Suites Class, then Singapore first class, and then Korean Air first class, given the specific situation, and that they fly the A380 to Bangkok and Hong Kong.

What would you choose to fly in Todd’s situation? Any good value which I left out?

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mbh Guest

The only thing I would add to what has been said here already is, all other things being equal, my tie-breaker is always which lounges I want to visit. Most good lounges are departure only and there aren't a lot of great arrivals lounges. So, don't know which leg to fly Emirates? What gets you into the best lounge? Etc. and so on.

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Andrew Guest

@Lucky First, we were both in F SYD>LAX on AA about a month ago. Best service I've ever had on AA! You looked familiar, but I didn't realize it was you until after the flight. Question on this subject - I'm trying to book two seats in F to/from Asia in Dec, of course would love for it to be on CX (JAL would be next). Am I better off booking two separate award tickets in F, even if they're on different days vs booking two Business seats on the same flight? I know I can change the dates for free using AA miles, but not sure about going from J to F post-devaluation. Also, what about the secondary legs (for instance, HKG>BKK)? Cheers

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Credit Guest

@SeattleTodd Thanks. I am flying to bkk using cx f later this year and flying jal f back. I chose flights so that I will get to spend some time in the pier. All booked using aa miles using back website. In case people are looking for ideas. Thanks

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hurtswith2 Guest

For my honeymoon in September / October, we're flying Singapore Suites (double bed!) from LAX to Tokyo on the way there and then Cathay Pacific F from BKK to BOS (through HKG) on the way back. In between those two cross pacific legs, we're doing a mix of Thai Airways, Singapore Airways, and Garuda Airways all in J, all trips booked with points. I am pretty stoked and don't think I'll ever be able to top this award trip. But hey, it is a honeymoon after all.

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hurtswith2 Guest

@Green T Your Citi AAdvantage card only earns American Airlines miles. If you had a card from Citi that earned "Citi Thank You points" (like the Presitge or Premier), you could transfer those "Thank You" points to airlines on their transfer list. Chase has cards in their portfolio that earn "Chase Ultimate Rewards points"; which have their own list of different transfer partners. Note: many airlines have alliance and non-alliance partners that you can redeem awards on. For example, you are currently earning American Airlines miles with your Citi card. You don't need to redeem them for flights on American Airlines though. They are part of the oneworld alliance which means you can use AA miles for flights on Cathay Pacific, Japan Airways, British Airways, etc. If you want to diversify your points, and you're new to the game, I'd get yourself signed up for the Chase Sapphire Preferred and the Citi Premier. Make sure you hit the minimum spending amounts though, or you'll forfeit the sign-up bonus (which is one of the main reasons people play this game).

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