Scoot Is Leasing A Singapore Airlines 777 – But Is It Good Or Bad News For Passengers?

You may or may not know about the worldwide problems with Rolls Royce Trent 1000 engines fitted to some Boeing 787 Dreamliners. As I dug through the OMAAT archives earlier today, I realised the topic hasn’t been covered much so far on this site, so I’ll be diving into various consequences of the problem as they are continuing to develop, and worsen.

Scoot is essentially Singapore Airlines’ low-cost arm, and operates a long-haul fleet of 17 Boeing 787-8 and 787-9 aircraft, with various destinations around Australia, Asia and even Berlin, primarily from its hub at Singapore Changi Airport. It operates a low cost model similar to Norwegian, by:

  • flying 787 Dreamliners
  • offering very cheap fares to premium destinations
  • having a premium class cabin called ‘Scoot Biz,’ with premium-economy like seats
  • offering a buy-on-board service, where meals can also be pre-ordered

Here is Andrew’s detailed review of ‘Scoot Biz’ from Tokyo To Taipei.

Wet-leasing

So far they have not been significantly impacted by the Rolls Royce engine issues.

However that luck appears to have run out as they are now wet-leasing an older Singapore Airlines 777-200 to cover one route for the rest of June, namely flights TR2 and TR3 which operate from Singapore to Sydney, and return, 5 times per week with the following schedule:

TR2 (operating as SQ8121) Singapore to Sydney, 01:30/02:00 – 11:00/11:40 (Depending on day of the week) on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday

TR3 (operating as SQ8122) Sydney to Singapore, 12:00/12:40 – 18:30/19:10 (Depending on the day of the week) on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday

Scoot will be using a 16 year old Singapore Airlines Boeing 777-200 with registration number 9V-SVJ for the flights.

This aircraft has 26 business class seats in a fully-flat 1-2-1 layout, and 245 standard seats in a 3-3-3 layout. The flight will be different to a normal Scoot flight, as:

  • it will be crewed by Singapore Airlines crews, rather than Scoot crews (as Scoot crews would not be certified on this aircraft type)
  • all passengers will receive a meal, regardless of whether they pre-bought it or not
  • each passenger will receive one non-alcoholic drink, but no alcohol will be available during the flight

As Scoot does not provide IFE, the Singapore Airlines IFE will be switched off.

So, if you’re booked on this flight, is this good or bad news? Well it depends on what type of ticket you have booked.

The winners

If you have booked a Scoot Biz flight on the Singapore to Sydney flights, this might be the luckiest day of your flying life. You will be going from a 2-3-2 recliner that looks like this:

to a 1-2-1 fully-flat bed that looks like this:

Given the flights leave Singapore so late at night, all I would be wanting to do is sleep anyway (and not watch the switched off IFE), so this seat would be perfect.

Also, if you have bought the cheapest possible economy ticket you will be going from a Scoot seat which is 19 inches wide with 31 inches of pitch, to a Singapore Airlines seat with the same width but an extra inch of pitch. You’ll also be receiving a free meal and non-alcoholic drink. Given sale fares on Scoot from Singapore to Sydney especially can be as low as SGD150, this would be a great deal.

The losers

Scoot offers an extra legroom mini-cabin called ‘Scoot-in-Silence’, which offers between 34 and 36 inches of pitch for an additional fee when booking.

Now because Singapore Airlines does not have a premium economy, or extra-legroom cabin on their 777-200s, those passengers will, I imagine, just be re-seated in standard economy seats.

If you’ve pre-paid for a meal, you may also be annoyed that everyone is receiving a complimentary meal whether they have paid for one or not.

Also, as these flights are alcohol-free, if you were planning to have a few drinks on board, you will not be able to.

Booking these flights

Before you go racing to book a cheap flat-bed to Sydney or Singapore, unfortunately it looks like these wet-leased flights are no longer for sale. These flights are usually operated by a Scoot 787-9 with a whopping 375 seats. The far more spacious Singapore Airlines 777 only has 271 seats, so I imagine the 777 flights are already completely full, with some Scoot passengers being offered refunds or being moved to other Scoot flights operated by 787s.

If you can somehow work out a way to book a Scoot Biz seat this month on TR2 or TR3, I would go for it!

Bottom line

If you do have a booking on one of these flights, do check the status of your flight, particularly your seat map, as you might be in for a very nice surprise.

I would much rather be on a flight wet-leased from Singapore Airlines than from Hi-Fly!

Have you ever flown a wet-leased flight?

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SAM G Guest

Yes - there was a new round of issues which also affected Singapore Airlines fleet - so along with the MAX issues have necessitated many adjustments to be made across SQ TR and MI flights, including Scoot A320s operating to Perth, A330s having their leases extended and the existing fleet worked harder with swaps on many flights across the region Good news is currently the flights are back being operated by the 1-2-1 config with flat beds, so that would be a pretty good upgrade for you - though if it switches back to the regional 2-2-2 config it's still an improvement in my view. Just remember to bring some entertainment as the IFE may not be on (on my flight it was moving map only)

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Olga Guest

I am flying SYD to SIN in June 2019 and our flight book with Scoot will be operated by SQ 772...so after one year from James article the wet lease still goes on. From ScootBiz to SQ Buz.

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Stuart Guest

Hey James, very helpful article. Just flew this flight and everyone actually gets entertainment as it’s either all on or all off and some people already pre-ordered entertainment.... so everybody wins. Can you please tell me where you can find real time information on wet leases, plane configuration and the aircraft serial numbers?

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Clare Guest

Oh we flew Singapore to Sydney Dec 21st on Boeing 772. Seat configuration in Biz Class was 1-2-1. Hope this helps.

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Clare Guest

So an update on our Scoot/SQ flight in Dec 2018. We got to Changi airport, three and half hours ahead of flight time. We were third in queue. Discovered later that we could have just queued at the BizScoot counter instead (was only one queue when we got there). We got our prebooked Scoot Biz tickets but as the plane was different from original seating configuration our son sat a couple of seats away from us - not a biggie given it was proper SQ biz class seats, reclining to flat - nice! And he's a grown lad:) So one economy meal was given with free water - no grog. No other freebies, no power supply, no movies - just the same as if we would have been in Scoot. So i would def book again on BizScoot if they continue to 'upgrade' us to SQ proper reclining Biz class seats again.

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