Review: American Airlines Business Class Boeing 777 (LHR-MIA)

Review: American Airlines Business Class Boeing 777 (LHR-MIA)

FROM: LHR
TO: MIA
CABIN: Business
DATE: March 2024
REVIEW RATING:
SEAT MAP: 777-200ER V.2
BEN SAYS: American's 777 business class is surprisingly delightful. The seats are comfortable, and entertainment and Wi-Fi are good. What exceeded my expectations was the flawless service and tasty food.
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For the final segment of the return journey of our trip to Geneva, we flew American Airlines’ Boeing 777-200ER business class on the nine hour flight from London (LHR) to Miami (MIA).

I came into this flight with pretty low expectations. American isn’t exactly known for world class food or service. But I’ve gotta say, I walked away from the flight with a favorable impression, and the experience was nearly perfect. The service was impeccable, the seats were comfortable, the entertainment and Wi-Fi were very good, and the food amenities were more than sufficient.

Based on this experience, I wouldn’t hesitate to fly with American on a long haul flight in business class again. Then again, the challenge with US airlines is that service is consistently inconsistent, so I wouldn’t expect to have such a good experience again.

How I booked my American business class ticket

I booked the return portion of our itinerary from Geneva back to Miami using American AAdvantage miles. Specifically, I ticketed the following in business class for 57,500 American AAdvantage miles plus $90.90 in taxes and fees per person:

3/12 BA723 Geneva to London departing 6:35AM arriving 7:25AM
3/12 AA57 London to Miami departing 11:15AM arriving 5:10PM

It goes without saying that this was an excellent value, even if it wasn’t the most aspirational or glamorous redemption. In a separate installment, I reviewed the British Airways business class flight from Geneva.

American business class lounge & boarding

American Airlines departs from Heathrow Airport Terminal 3, which is a pretty awesome terminal in terms of the lounges you can access as a oneworld flyer. Since we had a lengthy layover, we visited both the Qantas Lounge and the Cathay Pacific First Lounge.

I won’t be reviewing them this time around, since not much has changed since my last reviews of the facilities. However, I’ll emphasize that it’s a real treat passing through this terminal as a oneworld Emerald member, as I far prefer these options to the British Airways Galleries First Lounge in Terminal 5.

Our flight was departing from gate 1, with boarding scheduled for 10:25AM, 50 minutes before the scheduled 11:15AM departure. Unfortunately the inbound aircraft was delayed a bit, and at around 10:30AM it was announced that boarding would only start at 11AM.

American departure gate Heathrow Airport

That ended up dragging on even longer, and boarding actually started at 11:25AM, an hour behind schedule. Concierge Key members were invited to board first, followed by business class passengers.

American 777 business class cabin & seats

American’s Boeing 777-200ERs are configured with 37 business class seats, spread across two cabins. There’s one cabin between the first and second set of doors, and another cabin behind the second set of doors.

I should mention that American has two different types of business class seats on its 777-200ERs, and the fleet is pretty evenly split. Some have the Safran Concept D seats (which were the original seats), while others have the Collins Aerospace Super Diamond seats (which are the newer seats, and which you’ll find on many airlines).

The airline uses these configurations pretty interchangeably, and you’ll only know with any level of certainty which configuration you’ll get in the days leading up to departure.

This flight featured the Safran Concept D seats, which are generally viewed as the less preferred ones (read my review of the other seats here). The business class cabin on this aircraft consists of a total of 37 seats, in a 1-2-1 configuration. The forward cabin has 21 seats, spread across six rows, while the rear cabin has 16 seats, spread across four rows.

American business class cabin Boeing 777

The seats are somewhat staggered, and alternate between being forward and rear facing. The window seats in odd numbered rows face backward, while the window seats in even numbered rows face forward. Meanwhile the center seats in odd numbered rows face forward, while the center seats in even numbered rows face backward.

Which seats are best? If you’re traveling with someone and want to sit near them, I’d recommend the center seats in even numbered rows, since they’re closer together and are further from the aisle, so they allow you to actually enjoy the flight together.

American business class seats Boeing 777

Meanwhile the center seats in odd numbered rows would be my last picks, as they’re not close together, and are instead near the aisle.

American business class seats Boeing 777

As far as window seats go, generally I like the seats in odd numbered rows more, assuming you don’t mind sitting backward. This is because your head is closer to the windows, and therefore it’s easier to look out, while your feet are closer to the aisle.

American business class seats Boeing 777

I assigned myself seat 7A, the rear facing window seat on the left side in the first row of the second cabin.

American business class seat Boeing 777
American business class seat Boeing 777

Then I assigned Ford seat 8A, the forward facing window seat immediately behind that.

American business class seat Boeing 777

While many people aren’t a fan of these seats, the single greatest thing about them is that there’s no small footwell you have to place your feet into when sleeping, but rather that space opens up completely, which is awesome.

American business class seat Boeing 777
American business class seat ottoman Boeing 777

The seat’s features were both on the window and aisle side. On the window side of the seat was a small exposed storage compartment with two USB-A and two AC power outlets. I appreciate the quantity of charging options.

American business class seat power outlets Boeing 777

On the aisle side of the seat was the entertainment controller (which could be removed, for easier use), plus a small monitor that lets you control all of the seat’s functions, including recline.

American business class seat features Boeing 777

The tray table also folded out from the aisle side of the seat. It’s quite a large tray table, and when you remove it, you can flip it over to double the size. However, don’t expect that you’ll be able to get up when the tray table is out, since it really locks you in there.

American business class seat tray table Boeing 777

The entertainment monitor was attached to the seat behind, and could be extended with the push of a button, for head-on viewing. American’s 777 business class entertainment screens are 15.4″, and are touchscreen.

American business class seat entertainment Boeing 777

As is standard on American’s long haul fleet, there were individual air nozzles at each seat, which is a feature I value greatly.

American overhead console Boeing 777

As I see it, there are a few pros and cons to this seat. The biggest benefit is that this is one of the few decent products out there where you don’t have to place your feet in any sort of a footwell when in bed mode, and I think that’s hugely underrated.

Unfortunately the two main downsides of this product are the complete lack of storage at the seat, plus the “rocking.” What am I talking about with the rocking? Each pair of forward and rear facing seats are connected, so when a person in one seat moves around in their seat, you’ll almost certainly feel it in the “paired” seat.

This is frustrating to many, since you might find that you’re woken up on a long haul flight by the person in the adjacent seat shifting around. However, there are a few seats that don’t have this issue, as they’re not directly connected to another seat. On the 777-200ER, these seats include 1A, 7A, 7L, 10A, and 10L.

One other thing I have to mention is that the cabin was looking really worn. The leather was starting to fade, and there were all kinds of scratches and scuff marks. These seats could definitely use some TLC.

American business class amenities

There were a variety of amenities waiting at the seat upon boarding. This included a substantial pillow and blanket from Casper. While perhaps not as good as the bedding in United Polaris business class, I still find this to be excellent. I appreciate how substantial the pillow is, and also how the blanket is cozy without being overly warm.

American business class pillow & blanket

There were also a pair of Bang & Olufsen headphones. The one area where American’s business class is the best in the world is when it comes to headphones, as there’s no other airline offering such high quality headphones in business class.

American business class Bang & Olufsen headphones

There was also an amenity kit, or more accurately, an amenity box. This contained socks, eyeshades, earplugs, a pen, a dental kit, a cleansing wipe, lip balm, and lotion. Some of the products were from D.S. & Durga.

American business class amenity kit

The menu and drink list were also waiting at the seat.

American business class menu

Lastly, there was a bottle of water.

American business class bottled water

During the boarding process, pre-departure drinks were served, with the choice of water, orange juice, or sparkling wine. I find it so cheap how US airlines typically serve pre-departure drinks in plastic cups. It’s one thing if we’re talking about a domestic flight, but on a long haul flight? Bleh…

American business class pre-departure drink

American 777 business class entertainment & Wi-Fi

A real strong point of the long haul American experience is the entertainment selection. American’s entertainment library is excellent in terms of quality and quantity. There’s a huge variety of movies, TV shows, music, games, and more, so you should have no trouble staying entertained.

American business class entertainment system
American business class entertainment system
American business class entertainment system
American business class entertainment system
American business class entertainment system

Of course there’s also the map feature, which is my favorite entertainment option on just about any airline, frankly.

American business class entertainment system

American also has Wi-Fi on its Boeing 777s, in partnership with Panasonic. The pricing options were either $29 for a two-hour pass, or $35 for a full flight pass, with no data caps. I bought the latter, since I worked for most of the flight, and for that matter, the incremental pricing beyond the first two hours is minimal.

While not as fast as American’s Viasat Wi-Fi on domestic jets, I found the speeds to be reasonably good, and was able to stay productive for most of the flight.

American 777 Wi-Fi pricing

American 777 departure from London

Despite our late start, the boarding process was efficient, and wrapped up by 11:45AM, 20 minutes after it started. That quick boarding was thanks to the flight being fairly empty — while all business class seats were occupied, economy was only about half full. The door was then closed immediately.

Just as the door closed, the friendly captain added his welcome aboard, informing us of our flight time of nine hours, and our imminent departure.

We pushed back at 11:55AM, and at that point the safety video was screened. As you can see, it was a rainy day in London. As annoying as that can be for taking pictures out the window, it was almost artsy, so I’ll just go with it. 😉

American 777 pushing back Heathrow Airport

Then at 12PM we began our taxi. We had a fairly short taxi, but then a bit of a queue for takeoff… that’s not so bad when you have a view of the Concorde!

American 777 taxiing Heathrow Airport

Finally at 12:15PM we were cleared for takeoff on runway 27L.

American 777 taking off Heathrow Airport

We had a powerful takeoff, and then rocketed off into the afternoon sky.

American 777 after takeoff Heathrow Airport
American 777 after takeoff Heathrow Airport

The climb out was pretty smooth, though the seatbelt sign stayed on for around 20 minutes.

American 777 business class menu

American business class lunch service

Shortly after takeoff, lunch was served, which was the main meal on this flight. Below you can find the menu and drink list for the flight.

American business class lunch menu
American business class drink list
American business class drink list

Service began around 20 minutes after takeoff, with warm towels being distributed.

American business class warm towel

A few minutes later, tablecloths were distributed. American’s tablecloths sure seem pretty cheap, given that they don’t even cover the entire tray table.

American business class table setting

30 minutes after takeoff, the flight attendant working our part of the cabin was at our seats with the drink cart, offering a choice of drinks. I didn’t want to have any alcohol on this flight, as I was hoping to stay productive, so I ordered a Diet Coke and still water. This was served with a ramekin of warm, mixed nuts.

American business class drinks & nuts

45 minutes after takeoff, the first course was served. The first course was comprised of an appetizer of tataki salmon with rhubarb and ginger compote, and a salad with baby artichokes and red and yellow cherry tomatoes. There was also a selection of bread, and I chose a pretzel stick.

I must say, both the appetizer and salad were very good, much better than I’m used to on American.

American business class appetizer & salad

60 minutes after takeoff, main courses were served. We had both pre-ordered our meals, to ensure we’d get our first choice. I ordered the grilled salmon with red curry sauce, thai rice, diced pumpkin, and sautéed choy sum. This was very good — both the fish and sauce were flavorful.

American business class main course

Ford ordered the chili marinated chicken with mojo verde sauce, sweet potato mash, roasted corn, and mini chili. He said this was quite good as well.

American business class main course

As soon as main courses were cleared, dessert was offered, with the choice of an ice cream sundae, cheesecake, or a cheese plate. While I almost always have the ice cream sundae, I decided to mix things up, and instead ordered the berry cheesecake with a cup of coffee.

American business class dessert & coffee

Ford went with the sundae, with chocolate sauce and nuts.

American business class ice cream sundae

All-in-all, this was the best meal I’ve had on American in quite some time, and I found all the dishes to be tasty. On top of that, the service was friendly and efficient (more on the service in a bit).

American 777 business class lavatories & snack bar

American has three lavatories in business class on the Boeing 777-200ER — there are two in the galley by the second set of doors, and one by the first set of doors. The best lavatory in business class is the one on the left by the second set of doors, as it’s huge. It’s so nice to not have a lavatory that makes you claustrophobic.

American 777 business class lavatory
American 777 business class lavatory

The other two lavatories were more of a standard size, but were still okay.

American 777 business class lavatory
American 777 business class lavatory

Unfortunately the lavatories weren’t really cleaned throughout the flight. To be clear, at American that’s not the crew’s responsibility, but there sure is quite a difference between flying an Asian carrier and a US carrier when it comes to lavatory cleanliness, especially toward the end of the flight.

Also in the galley by the second set of doors was a self-serve bar, with bottled water, packaged snacks, sandwiches, salads, cheese plates, and more.

American 777 business class snacks
American 777 business class snacks

American 777 business class bed

I worked for a couple of hours after lunch, and then decided to nap for a bit. I reclined my seat and made my bed, and found it to be comfortable. As mentioned above, I appreciate how this seat has an open ottoman rather than an enclosed footwell.

American business class bed Boeing 777
American business class bed Boeing 777

In reality, I didn’t get all that much sleep, but rather just snoozed briefly (which is really all I want on a daytime flight where I arrive at home in the evening). I fell asleep around 3hr30min after takeoff…

American business class entertainment system

…and woke up just over 4hr10min after takeoff.

American business class entertainment system

American business class pre-arrival service

Around 90 minutes before landing, the pre-arrival snack service began. You can find the menu below.

American business class pre-arrival menu

Of the two options, I selected the orzo pasta salad, with peas, zucchini, feta cheese, sun dried tomatoes, pepper pearls, pumpkin seeds, and balsamic vinaigrette. This was served with a fruit plate, some breadsticks, and a packaged cup of apple and blackcurrant cheesecake. It was tasty enough, and fairly light.

American business class snack

Ford had the other option, which was a toasted BBQ sandwich with pulled beef and brie. It was also served with fruit and the cheesecake cup, but had chips instead of breadsticks. Frankly this dish looked significantly less appealing, in my opinion, and Ford wasn’t a fan.

American business class snack

American business class service

What I haven’t talked much about up until this point was the best part of the flight, which was the service. As I often say, the only thing consistent about service on US airlines is that it’s inconsistent. Fortunately on this flight we lucked out by having Arthur working our section.

His service was simply perfect, and exactly what I hope for when flying with a US airline. He was efficient, genuinely friendly, and informal. Just to give some examples:

  • He greeted each passenger in his section at the beginning of the flight — “my name is Arthur, and if there’s anything I can do to make you comfortable, please let me know”
  • I appreciated the polite tone with which he communicated — “have you had a chance to decide which entree you’d like today?”
  • He performed the entire meal service so efficiently, all while not making anyone feel rushed; I asked if I could wait about five minutes to have dessert, to which he responded “your schedule is my schedule”
  • During the meal service, he never let a glass get anywhere close to empty, and the question was always phrased as something along the lines of “what else can I get you?” (in other words, “you’re not inconveniencing me by asking for anything”)
  • Throughout the entire nine hour flight, he must have checked on passengers every 10 minutes to see if they wanted anything; when he was on his break, his colleagues did the same thing in his absence

Arthur is an absolute rockstar, and I hope I get to fly with him again. If all American crews were as good as he is, I’d fly American all the time on long haul flights. What a breath of fresh air.

American 777 arrival in Miami

Before we knew it, we were starting our descent to Miami. At 5PM Miami time, the captain was back on the PA to advise that we’d be landing in about 20 minutes, and five minutes later the seatbelt sign was turned on.

While we were landing into the east, our descent consisted of first flying over Miami Beach and then Miami, before flying inland approaching the Everglades, and then making a 180 degree turn.

American 777 approaching Miami Airport
American 777 approaching Miami Airport
American 777 approaching Miami Airport

At 5:20PM, we had a gorgeously smooth touchdown on runway 26. I’m not joking when I say that it might have been the smoothest touchdown I’ve ever experienced, to the point that I’m pretty sure a domino wouldn’t have fallen over if I had placed it next to my seat.

American 777 landing Miami Airport

We then had a short five minute taxi to our arrival gate, E8, where we pulled in at 5:25PM. We bid farewell to the crew, headed through Global Entry, and were home in no time.

American 777 taxiing Miami Airport

Bottom line

We had a phenomenal flight in American’s 777 business class. American’s hard product is competitive (though not cutting edge), and the carrier’s entertainment and Wi-Fi are great. Those things are consistent.

What’s much more variable is the food and service. Fortunately we did pretty well on both fronts on this flight. The food was actually quite good, and the service couldn’t have been better, thanks to Arthur. Based on this experience, I’d fly American again on a long haul flight in a heartbeat. The challenge, of course, is that I could have a very different service experience on another flight.

What do you make of American’s Boeing 777 business class?

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  1. Erik Guest

    I worked for TWA back in the late 60's as a Purser flying from JFK to a variety of European cities. From the training day in Kansas City it was evidently clear that how nice, cute intelligent etc American women had absolutely no idea about food service in a restaurant let alone on an airplane. Fast forward to today. Same old old story. Give all the latest newest best equipment BUT when it comes service...

    I worked for TWA back in the late 60's as a Purser flying from JFK to a variety of European cities. From the training day in Kansas City it was evidently clear that how nice, cute intelligent etc American women had absolutely no idea about food service in a restaurant let alone on an airplane. Fast forward to today. Same old old story. Give all the latest newest best equipment BUT when it comes service they are lost at sea. Take a flight on any Asian or Mid East airline any class and you'll see the difference. Cattle cars is the only aspect of the aviation industry the US airlines understand and win top honors.

  2. Erik Guest

    I worked for TWA back in the late 60's as a Purser flying from JFK to a variety of European cities. From the training day in Kansas City it was evidently clear that how nice, cute intelligent etc American women had absolutely no idea about food service in a restaurant let alone on an airplane. Fast forward to today. Same old old story. Give all the latest newest best equipment BUT when it comes service...

    I worked for TWA back in the late 60's as a Purser flying from JFK to a variety of European cities. From the training day in Kansas City it was evidently clear that how nice, cute intelligent etc American women had absolutely no idea about food service in a restaurant let alone on an airplane. Fast forward to today. Same old old story. Give all the latest newest best equipment BUT when it comes service they are lost at sea. Take a flight on any Asian or Mid East airline any class and you'll see the difference. Cattle cars is the only aspect of the aviation industry the US airlines understand and win top honors.

  3. Erik Guest

    I worked for TWA back in the late 60's as a Purser flying from JFK to a variety of European cities. From the training day in Kansas City it was evidently clear that how nice, cute intelligent etc American women had absolutely no idea about food service in a restaurant let alone on an airplane. Fast forward to today. Same old old story. Give all the latest newest best equipment BUT when it comes service...

    I worked for TWA back in the late 60's as a Purser flying from JFK to a variety of European cities. From the training day in Kansas City it was evidently clear that how nice, cute intelligent etc American women had absolutely no idea about food service in a restaurant let alone on an airplane. Fast forward to today. Same old old story. Give all the latest newest best equipment BUT when it comes service they are lost at sea. Take a flight on any Asian or Mid East airline any class and you'll see the difference. Cattle cars is the only aspect of the aviation industry the US airlines understand and win top honors.Er

  4. Joe Guest

    Granted that the catering companies will give the airlines what the pay for, but any possibility that Heathrow's catering is just better in general.

  5. JRS Guest

    I too had a good AA flight to Paris from ORD but had to endure it being cancelled, rescheduled the next day and then had to disembark for four hours as they didn’t have a pilot. Great crew and best Chilean sea bass I have ever had. Found out this crew just graduated and was their first international flight. I’m sure they will be jaded soon. On my flight back to ORD from MCO yesterday,...

    I too had a good AA flight to Paris from ORD but had to endure it being cancelled, rescheduled the next day and then had to disembark for four hours as they didn’t have a pilot. Great crew and best Chilean sea bass I have ever had. Found out this crew just graduated and was their first international flight. I’m sure they will be jaded soon. On my flight back to ORD from MCO yesterday, colleagues of mine who were in Economy said the flight attendants post on the mirror in the lavatory that they are ready to strike. Unfortunately, AA only cares about how much you spend on their credit card.

  6. Brian Guest

    Ben: Awhile ago you agreed to disclose how far are in advance of the flight you booked your trip with miles. You've stopped doing that. It would be informative if you disclosed that on a consistent basis.

    1. Yoloswag420 Guest

      The truth is Ben probably does a lot of close-in and speculative bookings that are not realistic to capitalize on for your average white collar person with a fixed working and vacation schedule. It's either that or calendar open bookings like everyone else. Given that this is his full-time profession, Ben is very privileged in that sense to be able to do this.

    2. Beachfan Guest

      But it’s helpful for retired folks.

    3. LAXLonghorn Member

      Howdy, yes, it would be helpful to have advice on advance booking award availability. I have been fortunate to have a very flexible work schedule for many years (and especially flexible during the COVID years, sigh:), and tended to book last minute always, as in a day in advance. I always found AA to have good last-minute availability in J, though of course you have to use common sense and not expect to go popular...

      Howdy, yes, it would be helpful to have advice on advance booking award availability. I have been fortunate to have a very flexible work schedule for many years (and especially flexible during the COVID years, sigh:), and tended to book last minute always, as in a day in advance. I always found AA to have good last-minute availability in J, though of course you have to use common sense and not expect to go popular destinations in their respective High Seasons. LON in August? RIO for the Holidays? etc? Those would be pipe dreams. In more recent years have also started flying AF/KL, and find their availability to also be very good with last minute award bookings. AC wasn't that far behind in reasonable availability. MH good for intra-Asia J award bookings, and they have great service. Good luck and enjoy your trip planning!!!

    4. upstarter Guest

      Lolz just do a search yourself. Not difficult.

  7. Steven E Guest

    So pleased you had a good flight - I’m afraid that food looked dismal and it’s such a shame that the table cloth shrank in the wash - it looks really poor

  8. FlyerDon Member

    I really wish American and its flight attendants could reach an agreement on a new contract. I just can’t understand why they haven’t been able to come up with a deal that’s acceptable to both sides.

  9. Mike the Traveler Guest

    I have flown AA business class across the Atlantic and the Pacific for work 7 times in the past 12 years. Every time food has been miles better than it used to be pre Covid. Wines is different, but that seems consistently a place where all airlines are cutting cost. Service has also been much better on average than it used to be. While before I would go out of my way to book a ticket on BA if possible, I do not feel that is any longer necessary. Good job to AA!

  10. Jake Guest

    The only consistency at AA is how inconsistent it is. You may get great service on one flight, and terrible on the next one.

    It's like there's nobody supervising employees and firing the ones that don't to their job.

  11. Dave Guest

    Are you sure the even rows are the ones closest together? AeroLOPA has the odd rows as closest together.

    Genuinely curious because my wife, toddler, and I are flying AA 777-200 in the center seats in a few months and would prefer to be as close as possible if we have that configuration. We had chosen an odd numbered row.

    https://www.aerolopa.com/aa-772-1

    1. LAXLonghorn Member

      You might want to look at this seat map, which seems the most clear of the various websites.

      https://seatmaps.com/airlines/aa-american-airlines/boeing-777-200er/#876f1f9954de0aa402d91bb988d12cd4

      Indeed, it would seem like the odd number middle seats are closest with the Safron Concept D configuration. If it were me, I'd say Adult/Child in the middle, Adult on the aisle across from the toddler...because of the staggered layout you won't have direct view of the toddler, but it's also an easy stretch of the...

      You might want to look at this seat map, which seems the most clear of the various websites.

      https://seatmaps.com/airlines/aa-american-airlines/boeing-777-200er/#876f1f9954de0aa402d91bb988d12cd4

      Indeed, it would seem like the odd number middle seats are closest with the Safron Concept D configuration. If it were me, I'd say Adult/Child in the middle, Adult on the aisle across from the toddler...because of the staggered layout you won't have direct view of the toddler, but it's also an easy stretch of the neck to see the little one.

  12. FLLFLYER Guest

    I was very pleasantly surprised with the service on AA recently. Flew DFW-HNL with a 4 hour delay - food was ok, crew was just amazing.
    I do not like the caliber of wines they serve though - on DFW-HNL it was the same swill they serve in domestic F. Do better! Especially given what they charge for J class in this market.

  13. Mister Kenn Guest

    I recently flew on an AA 777 from LHR to JFK. The seats and space was comfortable and the staff was pleasant. The food is another story. The only reason I had to eat on board was they were boarding the plane when I got to the gate from my inbound BA flight from Venice. AA food sucks, but I have not had good food on any US airlines international flight in ages. I use...

    I recently flew on an AA 777 from LHR to JFK. The seats and space was comfortable and the staff was pleasant. The food is another story. The only reason I had to eat on board was they were boarding the plane when I got to the gate from my inbound BA flight from Venice. AA food sucks, but I have not had good food on any US airlines international flight in ages. I use miles or buy business class seats so that I can get a flatbed period. And on my flight from JFK to Paris, it was an older 777 that was not nearly as comfortable.

  14. Stan P Guest

    I had a similar experience in January , MIA-EZE and EZE-JFK . Way better food than SQ Feb RT JFK-SIN and service as good as the Asians ..

  15. Beachfan Guest

    Nice review, thanks!

    How far (or near) from departure did you book.

    I find AAs catering out of London much better than LAX.

  16. Blake-Pickering New Member

    What was in the little gift-card like pack on the plate with the pre-arrival meal?

    1. Blake-Pickering New Member

      Surprised that AA makes it look that nice!

  17. Jerry Diamond

    I've been on a handful of AA long-haul fights recently, and it seems like the wine list has returned, including proper champagne. Since this flight was in March, you must have barely missed it.

    1. Beachfan Guest

      The wine is barely worth the paper it’s printed on. $12 retail in 3 class F LAX-LHR, AA must pay less than $8 per bottle. (May 10, 2024)

  18. Santos Guest

    I have had Arthur as an FA! He is fantastic at his job. In fact, IIRC, when my colleagues and I were AA loyalists, he was mentioned a few times among us as being a standout FA. That's really cool to see him highlighted here.

    As an aside, I've found that flights to and from LHR on US carriers generally pull exceptional crews.

  19. Ryan Guest

    I'm glad you had a great experience, but I had the exact opposite experience on my AA 777 business class flight from LHR to LAX a week ago. Service was terrible (they ran out of 2 out of 4 dishes by the time they got to my seat -- and I was in row 1), seat was uncomfortable, product felt old, and the person next to me was in a backwards seat looking straight into...

    I'm glad you had a great experience, but I had the exact opposite experience on my AA 777 business class flight from LHR to LAX a week ago. Service was terrible (they ran out of 2 out of 4 dishes by the time they got to my seat -- and I was in row 1), seat was uncomfortable, product felt old, and the person next to me was in a backwards seat looking straight into my seat the entire flight. I was about to switch my loyalty from United to AA after this flight, but no longer.

    1. JustinDev Member

      I have flown AA thrice in J from JFK to Europe over the last three years. I have never had an edible main course. Perhaps it's because I have always ordered the chicken dish. Perhaps it's just my luck...

      Don't get me started on rear facing configurations. OY!!! Hard pass for me.

  20. FMLAX Guest

    Ben, is it possible that AA's catering is just better ex-LHR? It seems somewhat frequent that flights US-EU - on any airline - have lower food quality, compared to EU-US. Maybe something to do with food standards?

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ FMLAX -- For sure, the station doing the catering can definitely impact the quality of the food, so I imagine that factored into the positive food experience.

  21. sunviking82 Guest

    The more and more reviews I've read in the past year, AA's service, soft and hard product and standing out against DL and UA. It seems to be much more consistant then post merger days and AA's 777/773 and Dreamliners are head and shoulders above DL 767 and older A330s and on par with UA 767 and 777 Polaris. We are flying to Spain and back from Italy on AA in a few months and...

    The more and more reviews I've read in the past year, AA's service, soft and hard product and standing out against DL and UA. It seems to be much more consistant then post merger days and AA's 777/773 and Dreamliners are head and shoulders above DL 767 and older A330s and on par with UA 767 and 777 Polaris. We are flying to Spain and back from Italy on AA in a few months and this will be my first AA Transatlantic service (previously DL and BA - whom I LOVE), so hopefully our experience matches yours and other reviews of late. If AA flys to key global destinations and with solid OW partners and the service/ soft and hard offering works well, I will be a happy flyer.

  22. jon Guest

    Any flight that allows you to see a Concorde and a A380 out the window is a great flight !

  23. andy Guest

    What I find amusing on many of these posts is how so many people are quick to criticize regardless of whether it is warranted or not. iIf you want a more submissive style of service (like the Asian airlines offer) fly an Asian Airline.....you are not going to get that with an American Carrier because we do not live in that type of culture. FACT. Being married to a FA I can tell you they...

    What I find amusing on many of these posts is how so many people are quick to criticize regardless of whether it is warranted or not. iIf you want a more submissive style of service (like the Asian airlines offer) fly an Asian Airline.....you are not going to get that with an American Carrier because we do not live in that type of culture. FACT. Being married to a FA I can tell you they are quick to identify the Needy, The Complainer, The Constant Bitchers who are impossible to please, The Whinners, The Entitled so keep that in mind. Most FAs will go out of their way to deliver Great Service but much depends on the Flyer......You come onboard with a TUDE, they will meet you accordingly and I agree wholeheartedly. I have flown many different airlines around the World and have rarely encountered any of these so called Horror Stories that so many of you Bloggers or Bitchers like to fabricate. Like I said AMUSING.

    1. Andrew Guest

      Whispers: I prefer the American service. I don't want over the top. Serve the meal, be generally friendly and I am good to go. Rather be left alone lol.

    2. FMLAX Guest

      Andy, you must be fun at parties.

    3. Dan Guest

      Most of us, reading this blog, are too old to party. You missed the glory days by about 20 years buddy.

      Oh, I do have a question. What is a silent dance party?

      Thanks for participating!

    4. AD123 New Member

      Agreed. I have flown many airlines from the "best" to the low-cost.
      I always make sure to greet the crew with a smile and ask them how their day is going. I don't feel entitled and expect them to "serve" me. I thank them for service.
      It serves me well and almost always have been treated properly in return.
      BTW this works everywhere in life - not only on an airplane!

    5. Barry Guest

      It almost shocking how many people cant appreciate how a little kindness can really go far. A few years ago we were in AA business class for the first time in a while and I was really impressed with the service, particularly as we often flew on the ME3 carriers and the experience was comparable. So I asked for the purser so I could share my positive feedback.

      His response was surprising in its...

      It almost shocking how many people cant appreciate how a little kindness can really go far. A few years ago we were in AA business class for the first time in a while and I was really impressed with the service, particularly as we often flew on the ME3 carriers and the experience was comparable. So I asked for the purser so I could share my positive feedback.

      His response was surprising in its candor. He was profusely appreciative and then said "many passengers just don't want to event acknowledge our presence". Then shortly before the flignt landed, he came over and presented me with an unopened bottle of wine as a token of his appreciation".

      Postscript - our more recent international AA business class flights between JFK and LHR, Barcelona, and Italy have all been quite good. So thumbs up to AA international business class.

  24. Luke Guest

    Nice but when it comes to redeeming AAdvantage, I always weigh if spending 57.5k for US/Europe routing in J is worth it over US/India on products such as Qatar Qsuites or Etihad for 70k, just about 20% more miles and twice the distance!

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ Luke -- In terms of the number of miles required, you're absolutely right that the Middle East or beyond on Etihad or Qatar would be a better value. However, actually finding that availability is incredibly challenging at the moment.

      Etihad doesn't make premium award space available to partners more than 30 days out, and even then, business class is almost impossible to and from the United States. Meanwhile Qatar Airways only makes most...

      @ Luke -- In terms of the number of miles required, you're absolutely right that the Middle East or beyond on Etihad or Qatar would be a better value. However, actually finding that availability is incredibly challenging at the moment.

      Etihad doesn't make premium award space available to partners more than 30 days out, and even then, business class is almost impossible to and from the United States. Meanwhile Qatar Airways only makes most premium space available via Avios nowadays.

  25. JS Guest

    Lucky - you stated that you made your bed for a quick nap. On most all other carriers, it seems that you have the FA make your bed. Just curious, how do you decide if you make your own bed or if you have a FA make your bed?

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ JS -- Great question! I go based on what I know the carrier's policy to be. There's no US airline that provides turndown service, so I wouldn't bother asking. On foreign airlines in business class, they'll typically offered if it's a standard part of the service.

    2. JS Guest

      Lucky - that's kinda what I figured as I can't remember any time that I've proactively been offered bed turndown service on a US carrier. Thanks!

    3. Motion to Dismiss Gold

      I could be wrong—does AA not offer turndown service in international F? I certainly remember United used to offer it in Global First.

    4. Joseph Guest

      Yes. On the American 77-3 wherever it flies we offer on-demand turn down service in first class. Always have & will continue to do so until the first 77-3 goes in for retrofit this fourth quarter of 2024.

  26. Timo Diamond

    Ice cream sundae and no whipped cream?! Has Ford lost his mind, ha ha! AA doesn't do much great, but they have the best whipped cream in the skies. I don't know how they do it because it's an easy food item to screw up even on the ground.

  27. Eli Guest

    How did you access the Cathay Pacific First Class Lounge?

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ Eli -- It's accessible by oneworld Emerald members (and I have Executive Platinum status).

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Santos Guest

I have had Arthur as an FA! He is fantastic at his job. In fact, IIRC, when my colleagues and I were AA loyalists, he was mentioned a few times among us as being a standout FA. That's really cool to see him highlighted here. As an aside, I've found that flights to and from LHR on US carriers generally pull exceptional crews.

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jon Guest

Any flight that allows you to see a Concorde and a A380 out the window is a great flight !

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Barry Guest

It almost shocking how many people cant appreciate how a little kindness can really go far. A few years ago we were in AA business class for the first time in a while and I was really impressed with the service, particularly as we often flew on the ME3 carriers and the experience was comparable. So I asked for the purser so I could share my positive feedback. His response was surprising in its candor. He was profusely appreciative and then said "many passengers just don't want to event acknowledge our presence". Then shortly before the flignt landed, he came over and presented me with an unopened bottle of wine as a token of his appreciation". Postscript - our more recent international AA business class flights between JFK and LHR, Barcelona, and Italy have all been quite good. So thumbs up to AA international business class.

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