American Airlines will soon be rolling out a new passenger experience on long haul flights, as the airline introduces its new Flagship Suite business class, and front-row Flagship Suite Preferred. While this product will be offered on newly delivered Boeing 787-9s (which are unfortunately delayed), we’re also going to see existing Boeing 777-300ERs reconfigured.
I wanted to provide an update on this, as the first aircraft is now starting to be reconfigured. Let’s take a look at what we can expect from these planes, including the (dense) configuration.
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American will soon retrofit first Boeing 777
American has a fleet of 20 Boeing 777-300ERs, and these are the only existing wide body planes that American has firm plans to reconfigure with new interiors. This is partly because they’re used for the carrier’s most premium routes, and also because they feature first class, which is a cabin that American is eliminating.
There have been a lot of questions about when American would reconfigure its first 777-300ER, especially given the delay with new 787-9 deliveries. Are the Dreamliner delays impacting the timeline with which American will retrofit existing planes?
Well, there’s an exciting update. On September 4, 2024, the first Boeing 777-300ER was flown to Tulsa (TUL), where it’s undergoing maintenance. For what it’s worth, this is the eight year old jet with the registration code N735AT. This timeline also exactly matches what @xJonNYC had predicted.
American’s Boeing 777-300ER retrofit project will be known as “Olympus” (similar to how the airline referred to its 737-800 retrofit project as “Oasis”). While the first plane is now starting to be reconfigured, it’s anyone’s guess when the plane enters service with new interiors. This is a prototype, and the aircraft will need to be certified with the new interiors, and that’s a process that could take weeks or even months, depending on how it plays out.
While I’m sure the goal is to reconfigure jets pretty quickly for the sake of fleet consistency, there are lots of variables here. For example, American continues to deal with delivery delays on so many jets, so the airline may not want to take more planes out of service than it has to.
Speaking of taking planes out of service, a reader points out that American is currently operating with zero spare 777-300ERs in its fleet, because the jet with the registration code N724AN is also currently in maintenance (but not for new cabins). So don’t be surprised if American’s operational reliability with this fleet is pretty bad in the months to come. American only has a single spare 777-200ER, so that would be quite a downgrade, especially in terms of premium capacity.
American’s updated Boeing 777-300ER configuration
So, when American reconfigures its Boeing 777-300ERs, how will the seat count change? While the airline hasn’t publicly announced this, a recent filing with the Federal Aviation Administration discloses American’s updated configuration.
For context, currently American’s 777-300ERs feature 304 seats, comprised of:
- Eight first class seats
- 52 business class seats
- 28 premium economy seats
- 216 economy seats
Once reconfigured, American’s 777-300ERs will feature 330 seats, comprised of:
- 70 business class seats
- 44 premium economy seats
- 216 economy seats
As you can see, the jet will be losing eight first class seats, but will be gaining 18 business class seats and 16 premium economy seats, all while economy capacity stays the same.
I’m honestly puzzled by how this is possible. Trading eight first class seats for 18 business class seats and 16 premium economy seats is a heck of a “deal.” Let’s actually look at this a bit more closely. According to regulatory filings, there will be 22 business class seats in the forward “zone,” between the first and second set of doors (compared to the current eight first class seats and eight business class seats):
- With the current configuration, there are 44 business class seats behind the second set of doors, plus 24 premium economy seats, plus 216 economy seats
- With the new configuration, there will be 48 business class seats, 44 premium economy seats, and 216 economy seats, in that same space
@xJonNYC reports that business class seat pitch is being reduced by one inch, Main Cabin Extra seat pitch is being reduced by one inch, and there’s plenty of other optimization with lavatories and galleys. As a result, I’m guessing the plane will be less pleasant for crews to work, in terms of the space allocated to them.
I am delighted to see that there will be 70 business class seats. That’s fantastic for upgrades, as that’s way more business class capacity than we’ve seen on any plane up until now.
Just to compare this to the only other US airline flying this jet, United’s 777-300ERs feature 350 seats, including 60 business class seats, 24 premium economy seats, and 266 economy seats. So United has 50 more economy seats, but 10 fewer business class seats and 20 fewer premium economy seats.
When will American eliminate international first class?
We know that American has plans to eliminate its international first class product, instead introducing an improved business class experience, plus a new front row premium business class experience. What remains to be seen is exactly when that will happen.
Previously we had heard that American might stop selling first class for flights as of some point in late 2024. However, that seems to be a moving target, and as of now, American is continuing to sell first class through the end of the schedule, well into next summer.
I wouldn’t necessarily read too much into that. My guess is that American just doesn’t yet know when it will stop selling first class.
I mean, most people booking first class way in advance are doing so with miles and/or are upgrading, and I suppose American thinks it’s easy enough to rebook them in business class when the airline finally has a better sense of the timeline. For that matter, American swaps planes on routes all the time, so that would be hardly be the first time the airline has dealt with such a thing.
Presumably there will be some period where American stops selling first class, but continues to offer the hard product on some planes, and will just seat some business class passengers here. After all, the 20 777-300ERs can’t all be reconfigured overnight.
Bottom line
American is starting to reconfigure its Boeing 777-300ER fleet, with the first jet having just flown to Tulsa to get new cabins. It’s anyone’s guess when the first plane with new interiors actually enters service, though. You can expect it’ll take more time for the first aircraft to be reconfigured, compared to subsequent aircraft.
What’s perhaps most interesting is how American plans to reconfigure these planes. They’ll feature a massive business class and premium economy cabin, and somehow American is still considerably increasing capacity.
What do you make of American’s plans to retrofit Boeing 777-300ERs?
Are they retrofitting them with with SIN/OZ/NH/JL/KE flight crew as well?
I'm excited about the prospect of having more PE seats so when these planes position on domestic routes, we can pick them as MCE. This is my favorite plane to fly LAX-DFW.
But, nothing . . . absolutely nothing . . . is going to change the type of nonsense represented by Philadelphia being a major AA waypoint for Europe. AA announced new routes for Summer 2025. Non-stop to Edinburgh . . . in spite of unused slots at JFK . . . not out of JFK but out of PHL. It is for this exact type of thing that I end up flying AA less and less.
AA only put focus on JFK recently because of the NorthEast Alliance, which provided additional traffic to make for better yields. Since that was iced by the DOJ, AA would rather put the frames somewhere else (especially since deliveries of new aircraft are constrained). They struggled with JFK yields previously.
Now, if they are able to overturn the DOJ ruling, that could change things enough for them to put focus on JFK again.
Vasu Raja put the knife into AA's heart and Brian Znotins twisted that knife with his network planning. PHL = WTF. If JFK is not a focus for AA, fine. But, the fact is that AA has unused slots at JFK. For years, the FAA has wanted to restore its use-or-lose rule on slots (suspended during COVID). AA has continually sought deferment. If JFK is not a focus for AA, then why the (stink) are they sitting on them?
More business class seats is the headline here and it's a positive to be sure. But it comes at the price of everyone losing pitch space on equipment that is intended for the longest of trips that AA will take. Their standard economy class is already awful in the Oasis configuration; there are ULCCs with more room. Now, premium economy and business class take the hit too. My last trip in AA's domestic first class...
More business class seats is the headline here and it's a positive to be sure. But it comes at the price of everyone losing pitch space on equipment that is intended for the longest of trips that AA will take. Their standard economy class is already awful in the Oasis configuration; there are ULCCs with more room. Now, premium economy and business class take the hit too. My last trip in AA's domestic first class (in a 737MAX) was shocking in that my knees almost touched the seat in front of me. So yes, they're selling more of a *premium* product that is inherently less premium than their competitors offerings.
These developments should be criticized and not to be lauded as somehow indicative of "progress".
now if they could please launch some interesting international routes for once rather than just doing London flying
@ quorumcall -- Would be nice, but no way it's happening with the current management team...
Can't get AA management to do anything right...
Lol this aged poorly. MIA-FCO!!! And some other cool new Euro routes just announced!
It’s great progress. But as a big Asia flyer we all know UA is leaving AA in the dust and we’re far from the old days of DFW-HKG
Just flew the 777-200ER a few days ago. Any idea if they will also retrofit the 200s?
@ Zac Cockman -- Unfortunately no plans have been announced for those jets to be retrofitted.
Slight correction: 28 PY currently instead of 24
@ hk -- Thanks, you're absolutely right. Fixed.
Not sure if this post contains any information which hadn’t already been conveyed in the first publishing. Just a recycled click-bait leaving me frustrated that I fell for it.
If you don’t like the headline, don’t read it. Leave your frustrations somewhere else. I like updates and reminders so I read it and enjoyed it.
It is an easy fix as you can just do your own research instead of reading OMAAT. @capital mike
How many times is One Mile At a Time recycle this story? It has appeared on this blog multiple times, including just 10 days ago.
@ thurstontravel -- In the opening section I noted the primary update, which is that the first aircraft is actually starting to be reconfigured. I'd consider that to be a meaningful development. The rest of the post has also been updated with information I've learned since the last time I posted about this new plane (for example, American now has zero space 777-300ERs, so that could impact operational reliability).
And the next meaningful development will be when refurbishment is concluded and the next meaningful development will be when the refurbished plane is ferried to it’s future base and the next meaningful development will be when the refurbished plan flies it’s first commercial flight and the next meaningful development will be when it moves onto a different route….
@ CapitalMike -- If you ask me, the next meaningful development will be when the plane enters service. Wouldn't you agree that's a significant development when the first reconfigured 777 enters service, including knowing exactly what the configuration will be like?
Stop whingeing you guys!! Ben does a great job keep us all informed. You can skip the article easily enough.....
Agreed. Maybe just not publish the entire article with just a few updated lines again….
@ CapitalMike -- I hear you and can understand how that's frustrating, but please also try to see it from my perspective. I'm not doing micro-blogging here, where I publish a blog post that's a single sentence, like "hey, American's first 777-300ER just went into the shop to be reconfigured."
I realize to a small percentage of core readers, maybe that would be appreciated. But a vast majority of people either don't read every...
@ CapitalMike -- I hear you and can understand how that's frustrating, but please also try to see it from my perspective. I'm not doing micro-blogging here, where I publish a blog post that's a single sentence, like "hey, American's first 777-300ER just went into the shop to be reconfigured."
I realize to a small percentage of core readers, maybe that would be appreciated. But a vast majority of people either don't read every post, or find stories through search engines, and the context is important. So that's why I instead take this approach, and I try to note in the introduction section what the main things are that have changed.
I know it might not appear that way, but significant details have been added to several parts of the post, beyond that.
@Ben You are doing a fantastic job Ben. Others like @capitalmike does not understand or accept the word called appreciation. I find it very useful to be reminded fully about these developments including your reposting of information because some may also have forgotten about it.
This is Ben’s blog to write whatever he likes as often as he likes. The day you have your own blog you can do the same. I enjoy the updates and reminders.
@thurstontravel Lucky will either update his posts with new information or he may reintroduce a topic for new readers as well as letting old readers providing more opinions about the reintroduced topic. So, you can just easily go read TPG or VFTW. Either way, your comment won’t sway Lucky one way or the other. His long time readers are very thankful for his blog.
AA really needs to upgrade the soft product to match the upgrades in hard product.
Well, mostly the service. The IFE is decent, the food is sometimes good, but the service is what needs improvement the most overall.
You’re excited?
I’m depressed. New J coffin seats vs the best J seats in their fleet.
This one only 8 years old?
It's the same seat with a door, more or less.
Hi Julia, I meant to respond to Nen. Sorry I tagged yours.
But it’s not the same seat, I thought they were putting in the ones they have on the two class 777s which are tighter and coffin like.
Ben, could you give us the scoop?