Impressions Of Qantas 787 Business Class

Update: Read my full Qantas Business Class 787 San Francisco To Melbourne review.

Good morning from Melbourne! I just took the 15 hour flight from San Francisco to Melbourne on the Qantas 787-9, which features their latest business class product.

Amazingly enough this was my first time flying longhaul in Qantas business class (I’ve flown them in longhaul first class and in short-haul business class), so in this post I wanted to share my initial thoughts (with a more detailed trip report coming soon).

Qantas’ new business class seat is excellent

Qantas has Vantage XL seats in business class, which you’ll also find in SAS business class, RwandAir business class, etc. However, these were the best Vantage XL seats I’ve had yet (well, along with the Delta One Suites, but that’s a heavily modified product).

The seats are stylish and have lots of privacy, the finishes are great, and most importantly, the footwell was big.

The problem with the Vantage XL seat on the A330 is that it’s significantly narrower, and you notice that when trying to sleep. That wasn’t an issue here.

Lastly, the seats had individual air nozzles, which I sure do appreciate as a feature.

So I think these are great seats — not quite as good as Qsuites, but not too far behind.

The crew was top notch

I just love the Australian service culture — I find it to be friendly and informal, and Qantas perfectly exemplifies that. The crew on this flight was excellent. Every single flight attendant I interacted with seemed genuinely happy to be there, proud of the new 787, and was accommodating.

The amenities are excellent

Qantas has great business class amenities. The amenity kits are nice, I love the pajamas with the Qantas logo prominently displayed on them, and the bedding was solid, with a good blanket, pillow, and even a mattress pad.

Great entertainment, no Wi-Fi

Qantas’ 787 entertainment system is also very good. The selection is huge, the screen is really high definition, and the system is responsive.

Unfortunately Qantas still doesn’t have Wi-Fi on any of their longhaul aircraft, including the 787.

The food was… meh

Qantas is generally well regarded for their food, and recently they’ve had a new emphasis on wellbeing on their ultra longhaul flights.

Here’s the menu for the entire flight, which is quite simple, as you can see:

This isn’t an airline where you get a five course meal, but rather the intent is that you just have a main and a dessert. The two “sleep sooner” dine options are just a small bowl of soup or a cheese plate.

I’m actually not opposed to these smaller portions and generally healthier food, though in some ways Qantas takes it to the extreme, with just a main and a dessert on a 15 hour flight.

The dessert options aren’t even great. You can either have fresh fruit, Haagen-Dazs ice cream, or the only “fresh” sweet dessert is a tiny tartlet.

While I realize I was probably unlucky, my preferred main choice — the salmon — wasn’t available, so I had the turkey instead, which I didn’t love. I don’t eat pork and I strongly dislike chicken kiev, so options were limited.

The breakfast was very good, though. I had fruit, muesli, and a poached egg.

The service flow was odd

As mentioned above, the flight attendants as such were excellent, though the service flow was odd.

First of all, I was in the rear business class cabin, which I usually like because it’s nice and quiet. However, premium economy is actually served from the business class galley, so during the meal services they brought carts through the cabin to premium economy.

Furthermore, this also meant that they were preparing up to 80 meals up there, so that came with the corresponding noise, foot traffic, etc. Premium economy also doesn’t have any dedicated lavatories, so passengers kept coming up from premium economy to use the bathrooms, meaning there was often a wait.

That’s not a huge deal, but was definitely noticeable.

Next, I’m totally fine if they’re just going to have a lighter meal service, but my issue is just how long the service took. It shouldn’t take over two hours to serve a two course meal. It was 75 minutes after takeoff before the first round of drinks were served, and those weren’t even accompanied by any sort of nuts or an amuse bouche.

Qantas 787 business class bottom line

All things considered, I thought Qantas business class was excellent. The seat, amenities, entertainment, and service were top notch.

The meal service just seemed odd, as did the service flow.

The lack of Wi-Fi is disappointing.

I’d fly Qantas again in a heartbeat, and would recommend their business class. However, I do slightly prefer Virgin Australia’s 777 business class, all things considered.

If you’ve flown Qantas business class, what was your experience like?

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Ella Guest

Well, huh. This makes my UA MEL - LAX trip sounds pretty classy in comparison. The seats look superb, though.

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Kent Member

I am sorry but I cannot say that I would commend an airline which takes two hours to serve an "express" meal, which has such dull interiors and takes away the comfort of solitude and sleep by service carts going to-and-from the other classes. Might you be somewhat soft in your recommendation?

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Rezzadogs Guest

I have taken the LHR/PER/MEL sectors in J, and was less than impressed with the foot well - I needed to pull my legs out to roll over, and whilst my feet are larger than average, they aren't enormous. However, in fairness when the seat was in seated mode, I found the room on a window sided seat to be roomy and quite private. I have never been a fan of Neil Perry's food, but I find that the out-station catering to be substantially worse than what is loaded in Aust. One of the snacks on the LHR/PER sector was cottage pie - I think the last time I saw cottage pie served in Australia was in the 70's. I hadn't flown home on QF for quite a while, and was disappointed that there wasn't some form of noodle bowl given that a fair chunk of NP's restaurants are either Asian themed or have Asian influence on the menus. My biggest issue however is the premium QF charges. I'm flying MEL/MNL/LHR in J tonight, and QF was 120% higher for a one way ticket. I haven't flown in PR before, but I doubt that the hard and soft products will only be half as good. Sure, a number of people would rather pay a premium for QF's safety record, and demand comes into play regarding pricing as well, but when the kangaroo route has so many options, it's difficult to pay that much over the odds.

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Austline New Member

I am a QF life time Gold and still enjoy flying QF. I would still qualify for Gold with the amount of flying I do and as an Aussie I would go out of my way to fly QF. Strange comments from Ben on the food I certainly would have been happy with the menu, also it is a supper service ex SFO and LAX. Having recently flown QR on their A380 I think QF are way out in front. Was not impressed with the cabin crew they were friendly but indifferent, wine selection very average and Doha airport was crowded and the lounge just okay. Out of the 3 big ME carriers, EK is the best IMO. ME carriers sell on price and QR is at the bottom cheapest J to Europe ex Aust. Happy to pay more an fly QF.

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Nathan Diamond

Our 787 flight in J from MEL-LAX with QF last week couldn't serve us breakfast as the fridges broke down. No milk, nothing cold at all; just a croissant. The staff handled it with aplomb though, by giving all of the J cabin a full, unopened bottle of champagne or spirits to each pax in J. There were also staff waiting in LAX after we walked off the aerobridge with snacks and vouchers, but we couldn't handle waiting around for this and delaying further the undeniable trauma that is LAX CBP (understandably). Our flight back from Ben's review from SFO-MEL has much better economy seats than then current A380 Y. @Darren - I asked for the soup, main and dessert and was accommodated with then soup in this regard (although it did take a reminder to the FA, who then genuinely apologized and brought out my main). It would seem QF management is hoping people don't ask in an attempt to penny-pinch.

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