Etihad Drops First Class To Washington, Adds It To New York

Etihad Drops First Class To Washington, Adds It To New York

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Earlier I wrote about how Etihad will start flying the Airbus A380 between Abu Dhabi and New York as of April 2024. This is an exciting development, because when Etihad brought back the A380 in July 2023, the plan was to fly the aircraft exclusively to London. As it turns out, this isn’t the only change coming to Etihad’s service to the United States…

Etihad will send three cabin Boeing 787 to New York

Currently Etihad’s only route to the United States with first class is the carrier’s daily Abu Dhabi to Washington flight. That will soon be changing. As of April 22, 2024:

  • Etihad’s Abu Dhabi to Washington route will be swapped from a three cabin 787 to a two cabin 787, meaning it will no longer feature first class
  • Etihad’s second daily Abu Dhabi to New York flight (the non-A380 frequency) will be swapped from a two cabin 787 to a three cabin 787, meaning it will start to feature first class
Etihad Boeing 787-9 first class

What are the implications of this for passengers?

  • The three cabin plane has eight first class seats, the two cabin plane has no first class seats
  • The three cabin and two cabin planes both have 28 business class seats
  • The three cabin plane has 195 economy seats, the two cabin plane has 271 economy class seats

As you can see, the two cabin plane has a net 68 additional seats — it has 76 extra economy seats, at the expense of eight first class seats.

Etihad Boeing 787-9 business class

For context, Etihad’s daily Boeing 787-9 frequency to New York operates with the following schedule:

EY101 Abu Dhabi to New York departing 10:50AM arriving 4:55PM
EY100 New York to Abu Dhabi departing 10:35PM arriving 7:30PM (+1 day)

Meanwhile Etihad’s daily Boeing 787-9 frequency to Washington operates with the following schedule:

EY131 Abu Dhabi to Washington departing 10:10AM arriving 4:35PM
EY130 Washington to Abu Dhabi departing 10:0PM arriving 7:00PM (+1 day)

Etihad currently has a fleet of roughly 30 Boeing 787-9s, though only five of them feature first class. They’re used primarily for flights to Washington (soon New York), London, and Geneva.

What’s the logic for this aircraft swap?

It’s interesting to consider how service to New York and Washington has evolved for Etihad:

  • Back in the day, Etihad offered double daily A380 flights to New York, and the airline has also long offered once daily 787 flights to Washington with first class
  • At the start of the pandemic, Etihad completely cut first class from New York, and instead focused on Washington
  • Logically (without having access to any data), you’d assume that there’s more first class demand to New York than Washington, and that placing the aircraft with first class to Washington was more about capital-to-capital prestige than anything else
  • That being said, I heard that first class demand to Washington was actually pretty decent, and perhaps the reason the two cabin plane was being sent to New York is because it was more profitable to have an extra 68 seats (since there are 76 extra economy seats, at the expense of eight first class seats)

I have to say, I’m really impressed by Etihad’s current management team. The airline is trying to grow in a rational way, and hopes to double its fleet and triple its passenger numbers by the end of the decade. Prior to the current management team, Etihad went from lighting money on fire as if there was no tomorrow, to cutting and scaling back as if there was no tomorrow.

While I don’t have access to actual premium demand levels, logically it seems that if Etihad wants to compete in the New York market, it’s great to offer first class on both daily frequencies, so that the airline can offer more schedule options to prospective first class passengers.

Etihad Boeing 787-9

Bottom line

Etihad is making quite some changes to its United States service. While the biggest development is that Etihad will be bringing the Airbus A380 back to New York, that’s not the only change. Also as of April 2024, the airline will start flying a Boeing 787 with first class to New York, though it comes at the expense of first class on the Washington flight.

That means Etihad will offer double daily first class to New York, which is kind of cool. I can’t help but wonder if the Etihad Lounge New York may finally reopen, or if the airline has given up on that? Does anyone know the latest on that? Is Etihad even renting that space anymore?

What do you make of Etihad dropping first class to Washington, and doubling down on New York?

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  1. Jay P Guest

    This was the dumbest move by Etihad. I fly FC from Washington and it had a good demand. Washington is a much better airport than JFK. Eveyone does not live in filthy city like New York. They just made it harder for a lot of people to fly FC. In fact their business class seats are very uncomfortable. Washington being a capital would’ve had a good demand to fly to Abu Dhabi. If they felt that JFK has a growing demand then they should’ve added another 787 with FC.

  2. Peter Guest

    Do you really think it is about the F cabin rather than with the increase in economy capacity due to the A380, they don’t need such big economy cabin on JFK route and send it to Washington instead?

  3. Brianair Guest

    Etihad should have first class on their A350-1000s. Seems like that would be more logical than the smaller 787. The A350-1000 also seems like a better fit than the 787 for larger markets like JFK. There’s quite a big size gap between the 787 and A380 that has no first class on it.

  4. Parnel Member

    i have flown both the A380 AUH-LHR and the 787 AUH-IAD, and its a spectacular service, and the 380 seat is amazing. Hopefully as Etihad gets more planes it can add back F to IAD, its always full when i am on it. ( 4 times)

  5. JK Guest

    Wow, a gain of 9.5 economy seats for each first class suite. I wonder if there is less galley space on the 2 class planes as well?

  6. GBOAC Diamond

    Now here's the thing that interests me the most. How does Etihad manage to replace 8 F seats (2 rows) with 76 additional coach seats in their 787-9?

    1. TravelinWilly Diamond

      Remove FC completely (along with the two lavs that are right in front of FC but behind doors 1L and 1R), move the entire biz. class section forward (including the section behind doors 2L and 2R), including into the section that was FC, and then move up seats in the back of the plane to where there used to be business class seats.

    2. ffi Guest

      with F class
      https://seatguru.com/airlines/Etihad_Airways/Etihad_Airways_Boeing_787_900.php
      No F Class - the business class cabin is before second door
      https://seatguru.com/airlines/Etihad_Airways/Etihad_Airways_Boeing_787_900_V2.php

  7. Lee Guest

    Regarding the recent shake-up of Etihad partner awards, might it have been in anticipation of this service change? Alternatively, might it have been related to a strengthening of its relationship with Air France (to the detriment of others)? Just speculation.

  8. Antwerp Guest

    I've used F on the AUH-IAD flight on a few occasions the past two years. It is always full. But I imagine that could be the points crowd in a lot of cases. As well, with diplomats shuttling back and forth. Further, it's popular with Johns Hopkins surgeons who are flown in F to perform surgeries in the UAE.

    My take on this move is that this is preparations for a formal announcement that...

    I've used F on the AUH-IAD flight on a few occasions the past two years. It is always full. But I imagine that could be the points crowd in a lot of cases. As well, with diplomats shuttling back and forth. Further, it's popular with Johns Hopkins surgeons who are flown in F to perform surgeries in the UAE.

    My take on this move is that this is preparations for a formal announcement that Etihad is joining SkyTeam. With the recent AF/KL announcement, an A380 to JFK, and now shifting F on the 787, we are seeing Etihad prepare to line up with connections to/from Delta there.

  9. Jason Guest

    How is it competing in NYC? Qatar competes just fine in NYC with no first class.

    Having worked in airline planning before, I can tell you that nobody ever made a decision based on "prestige", especially for multimillion dollar decisions based on the one you mention. It's a popular notion amongst armchair CEOs, but not amongst the people actually in charge of multimilion dollar decisions. IAD has traditionally had a very demand for First Class,...

    How is it competing in NYC? Qatar competes just fine in NYC with no first class.

    Having worked in airline planning before, I can tell you that nobody ever made a decision based on "prestige", especially for multimillion dollar decisions based on the one you mention. It's a popular notion amongst armchair CEOs, but not amongst the people actually in charge of multimilion dollar decisions. IAD has traditionally had a very demand for First Class, especially on middle eastern routes. New York, while "prestigious", actually is a pretty low yield market outside of some high profile markets such as London. Lots of competition, and lots of seats chasing low yield customers, such as those traveling to India.

    The reason that it would most make sense, to me at least, for Etihad to be making this decision is because they want to have product consistency - both airplanes with F class. EY has very few planes with F class, so DC is sadly the sacrifice to keep F on both services in NYC.

    1. Nicos Guest

      I disagree. Clearly, EK and EY both don't see F demand in IAD, and think they are better able to generate premiums at JFK.

    2. Jason Guest

      EK still flies an airplane equipped with F to IAD. It's not the A380, but it is their new 777 with, what Lucky has said, is their best F class product.

    3. Omar Guest

      This is a lot of hogwash. F demand out of IAD is quite weak. You can see it with AF's lowest upgrade offers from any US hub are from IAD. EY routinely released huge amounts of award availability out of IAD.

      Meanwhile airlines that operate true F class out of JFK or EWR have strong demand, particularly AF who is full in F almost every day despite 3 flights w/ F cabin a day.

      Seems like a smart move by EY.

    4. Jason Guest

      Pre Covid it was a lot stronger. Hasnt rebounded yet, I guess, so the product goes up to NYC

  10. C-Tripper Guest

    IAD taking a bit of a hit lately when it comes to premium aircraft. First lost the A380 on Emirates and now first class on Etihad.

    1. Antwerp Guest

      The A380 is normally seasonal there. The reality is that the 777 they use is not the end of the world, it's at least with the new F seats.

    2. C-Tripper Guest

      The A380, to my knowledge, was not previously seasonal from IAD. I took the flight last December and it was on the A380, which would now be flown on the 777. It may be seasonal moving forward but that is not set in stone as Emirates only stated the move was "temporary," whatever that means. Also, although the Emirates 777 has the new F, I think we all agree that the the business class is...

      The A380, to my knowledge, was not previously seasonal from IAD. I took the flight last December and it was on the A380, which would now be flown on the 777. It may be seasonal moving forward but that is not set in stone as Emirates only stated the move was "temporary," whatever that means. Also, although the Emirates 777 has the new F, I think we all agree that the the business class is a huge downgrade. I had another trip plan in Emirates J for January but cancelled after the swapped and moved to Etihad instead.

  11. tjp74 Guest

    I just heard that they are bringing back A380 to JFK. I wish them well... I have a fond memory of taking my family of 4, spliting half over 2 days so we can all enjoy A380 apartment suites from SYD to AUH and that was when they provided free limo service and then on to AUH to IAD with 2 in F and 2 in J on a 787. We had two seperate limos...

    I just heard that they are bringing back A380 to JFK. I wish them well... I have a fond memory of taking my family of 4, spliting half over 2 days so we can all enjoy A380 apartment suites from SYD to AUH and that was when they provided free limo service and then on to AUH to IAD with 2 in F and 2 in J on a 787. We had two seperate limos show up at our hotel in AUH because we had seperate reservations! that was wild. I know we will never be able to repeat that but I am monitoring the A380 return to JFK situation. If I can have one more opportunity to fly the double decker.. and an apt suite at that, I would be all set.

  12. John Guest

    You're bang on about the new Etihad management team. They are all young, and come from a diverse group of airlines. It is a refreshing change from the old-boys club that is the usual ME3 management.

    I was at CAPA, and was really impressed by both their CEO Antonoaldo Neves during the keynote, and the CRO Arik De in a panel. It seems like they know what they are doing, and have a clear...

    You're bang on about the new Etihad management team. They are all young, and come from a diverse group of airlines. It is a refreshing change from the old-boys club that is the usual ME3 management.

    I was at CAPA, and was really impressed by both their CEO Antonoaldo Neves during the keynote, and the CRO Arik De in a panel. It seems like they know what they are doing, and have a clear sense of direction.

    Driving a consistent F product in JFK is a smart move as pax can then mix and match flight times and this drives premium traffic.

  13. Bill n DC Diamond

    Well this is a fine how do you do. I’m currently booked on both AUH IAD & AUH LHR in March (on the same day both using AA miles - 100K & 67.5K respectively)
    I intended to do another shower then fly home to IAD on the upgraded BA B777.
    But if I’m losing the DreamLiner First Class directly home,
    I’m torn. I really like the AUH IAD Dreamliner flight <3

    1. Jason Guest

      Read what he says - the change doesnt happen until April. You're traveling before that.

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TravelinWilly Diamond

Remove FC completely (along with the two lavs that are right in front of FC but behind doors 1L and 1R), move the entire biz. class section forward (including the section behind doors 2L and 2R), including into the section that was FC, and then move up seats in the back of the plane to where there used to be business class seats.

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Jason Guest

Read what he says - the change doesnt happen until April. You're traveling before that.

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Jay P Guest

This was the dumbest move by Etihad. I fly FC from Washington and it had a good demand. Washington is a much better airport than JFK. Eveyone does not live in filthy city like New York. They just made it harder for a lot of people to fly FC. In fact their business class seats are very uncomfortable. Washington being a capital would’ve had a good demand to fly to Abu Dhabi. If they felt that JFK has a growing demand then they should’ve added another 787 with FC.

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