British Airways Moves To New York JFK Terminal 8

British Airways Moves To New York JFK Terminal 8

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In early 2019, we learned about British Airways’ plans to move at JFK, from Terminal 7 to Terminal 8. This process has finally started as of today, as the first British Airways flight departed from JFK Terminal 8.

Why British Airways is moving JFK terminals

For years, British Airways has been the primary airline at New York JFK’s Terminal 7.

JFK Terminal 7 exterior

Interestingly pre-coronavirus, the airline spent $65 million renovating Terminal 7 at JFK, given what a big market New York is for the airline.

British Airways First Lounge JFK Terminal 7

That’s despite the fact that British Airways is moving terminals. For context, $400 million has been invested to redevelop JFK Terminal 8. This is part of a larger redevelopment at JFK, as Terminal 7 will eventually be demolished to make room for Terminal 6.

American and British Airways have a transatlantic joint venture, and the fact that they haven’t historically been co-located at JFK has been a point of frustration for passengers. American operates out of Terminal 8, and the two terminals aren’t connected airside, making connections between the two airlines time consuming.

American 777 at JFK Terminal 8

We’ve seen some other oneworld airlines move from Terminal 7 to Terminal 8 in recent years, but British Airways hasn’t been able to make the move up until now, given how big of a presence the airline has in New York. That will finally be changing.

British Airways’ move to JFK Terminal 8

British Airways has started its progressive move from Terminal 7 to Terminal 8 at JFK:

  • British Airways’ first flight has operated out of Terminal 8 on November 18, 2022
  • British Airways’ last flight will operate out of Terminal 7 on November 30, 2022

The first British Airways flight from JFK Terminal 8 departed this morning.

British Airways’ first departure from JFK Terminal 8

As part of this change, we’ll see American and British Airways open new lounges and check-in facilities at JFK Terminal 8. In total, we can expect three new lounges, with a seating capacity for roughly 1,000 customers:

  • The most exclusive lounge will have an all-new champagne bar, fireside lounge, and a la carte dining room; this will replace American’s Flagship First Dining facility, though will be in a different location
  • Another adjacent premium lounge will feature sweeping airside views, a wine bar, cocktail lounge, library, and buffet
  • American’s Flagship Lounge and Concourse B Admirals Club will be repurposed into a single lounge for eligible business class passengers (the Concourse C Admirals Club will be the only lounge for Admirals Club members)

It’s my understanding that these new lounges are expected to open as of December 1, 2022, so within two weeks we should know all the details of these spaces.

JFK Terminal 8 lounge
JFK Terminal 8 lounge

Is JFK Terminal 8 actually expanding?

On the surface this move sounds like great news, since it should make connections easier. But there’s a big catch. JFK Terminal 8 isn’t actually increasing in size significantly.

Rather the terminal is introducing five new wide body gates, four new wide body hardstand parking locations, an enhanced baggage system, and 130,000 square feet of new and renovated terminal space. In reality space is just being utilized more efficiently, with the introduction of new (really long) jet bridges, as well as the conversion of a regional jet gate into a wide body gate.

Rendering of new JFK Terminal 8

While the convenience of easier connections will be great, historically this terminal has been underutilized, and that will no longer be the case. With British Airways moving, I’d expect Terminal 8 to be quite busy in the evenings.

Bottom line

British Airways has started its process of moving from Terminal 7 to Terminal 8 at JFK, and you can expect this process to be complete by November 30, 2022. This should make connections between American and British Airways easier, so that’s good news. We should also see new lounges opening as of December 2022, though the exact details remain to be seen.

Expect Terminal 8 to be much busier with these changes, which probably isn’t great for American passengers. Then again, this change has been inevitable, given that Terminal 7 will eventually be demolished.

What do you make of British Airways moving to JFK Terminal 8?

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  1. Irfan Guest

    It's quite annoying as it is not always obvious which airline is the operating airline although airlines have done better in recent years about telling people.

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  2. Irfan Guest

    I think this should be done for ALL airlines. For example Skyteam - Air France and KLM don't use the Delta terminal 2/3. It's quite annoying as it is not always obvious which airline is the operating airline although airlines have done better in recent years about telling people.

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  3. Michael Guest

    At this point, there's no longer any reason for RAM to stay at T1. While JAL was understandable, given that they also operate the terminal

  4. iamhere Guest

    During the transition period people will have to be careful and watch closely as to which terminal their flight departs from. Actually, I think this should be done for ALL airlines. For example Skyteam - Air France and KLM don't use the Delta terminal 2/3. It's quite annoying as it is not always obvious which airline is the operating airline although airlines have done better in recent years about telling people.

  5. Geoff Guest

    Where is Alaska going ?

  6. Big Al Guest

    So the question is.................... will the Macallan Boutique follow suit and move from T7 to T8?

  7. Richard Guest

    I loved T7 because of its small size and also the Concorde Room which is one of the nicest lounges there is. Was pleased to get one last dinner and Negroni there on Tuesday! I'll miss it.

  8. shoeguy Guest

    T8 is right now, and has been, the largest terminal at JFK square footage wise, and an eminently more enjoyable place to travel into and out of than the rest of the JFK terminals.

    Terminal 7 was outdated, cramped, and generally not pleasant at peak times.

    The new T1 when it opens, will be the anchor for Star Alliance at JFK, except for all the LH Group airlines, which will operate from Terminal 6...

    T8 is right now, and has been, the largest terminal at JFK square footage wise, and an eminently more enjoyable place to travel into and out of than the rest of the JFK terminals.

    Terminal 7 was outdated, cramped, and generally not pleasant at peak times.

    The new T1 when it opens, will be the anchor for Star Alliance at JFK, except for all the LH Group airlines, which will operate from Terminal 6 when it is completed.

    IB will move to T8 on 12/01. JAL appears to be relocating to T8 as well, and eventually that just leaves RAM to move from T1 to T8 and all of OW will be under one roof at JFK.

  9. John T Guest

    I'm skeptical this will be an improvement for departing BA pax. T7 was a good setup and a nice small and easy to navigate terminal.

  10. Kiwi Guest

    I remember when the current T8 replaced the old T8&9 complex that the plan was originally for T8 to expand ala SLC into the space for T7. essentially it’s half built.

  11. Ryan D Guest

    I have an AA transcon flight in F in mid
    December and I’m curious to know how they will treat AA F pax for the interim time when AA F is still around. Will we get to use the new joint facilities?

  12. Jim Guest

    I always hated going to terminal 7 when I flew any kind of premium class. When you come out of the passport check they would just dump you into the mix with everyone else trying to go through security and you'd have to fight your way into the line or beg someone to let you in. Since the line stretched all the way to where the TSA checked the coach folks' ID's, you couldn't really even go to the back of the line. What a mess. Glad it's gone.

  13. 305 Guest

    JAL announced this week their intentions to relocate to T8 in May. Always found it insane that OW operated out of three different terminals at JFK, especially with AA shedding so many of their own metal flights to those partners in recent years. Made connections incredibly complicated.

  14. RBNY Guest

    Addiitonally, all Iberia flights will move to terminal 8 as of December 1, per an email I received from them today.

  15. Bowie Guest

    These new mixed use American and BA lounges feel very underwhelming compared to what BA has at Terminal 7. Something about going from the Concorde Room to the Terminal 8 lounge just isn't particularly appealing

  16. Phil Jackson Guest

    Will T8 have the capacity to accommodate BA A380s, and I wonder if they have any plans to utilise them on the JFK route. I operated into T7 many times, and it was very tight even for 747s, so I guess that the apron layout was unsuitable for A380s.

    1. John T Guest

      No. BA have said in the past no A380s for JFK. Pax want high frequencies, not high capacity aircraft.

  17. Jap Guest

    ANA uses British Airways lounge at terminal 7 for F passengers. Does anyone have any guess of which lounge will be used now that BA is moving out of terminal 7?

    1. Hao Guest

      I'm curious about that too. Hope it's not Alaska lounge. But I think eventually ANA will move to T1 (with most SA airlines).
      The best scenario is to take over the British Airways lounge but with only one daily flight now, it's not really possible.

    2. dx Guest

      LH and its subsidiaries are apparently moving to T6 so maybe ANA will co-locate there (would make sense as UA has joint ventures with both of them).

    3. Jm Guest

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  18. JW Guest

    Will all OW airlines be consolidated into 1 terminal? Its frustrating flying JL and connecting to AA or As.

    1. Mike O. Guest

      While I would like to believe so, it's still up in the air at the moment (excuse the pun). Terminal 1 is being rebuilt with a new consortium and I don't believe that JL is part of the new consortium.

      But it does make sense logistically.

    2. ConcordeBoy Diamond

      JL, along with AF, KE, and a few others, have an equity stake in the current T1.

      Unless that's bought out, I sincerely doubt they'll be leaving, despite renovations.

    3. shoeguy Guest

      The new T1 is not a renovation. It is a new structure, with 3 x the number of gates as the existing T1 and it is being financed by a Private Equity firm. The new T1 will eventually be the anchor for *A at JFK, as it is now, just larger. Much larger. My guess is JL will move to T8 eventually, KE to T4, along with AF, with LH staying put.

    4. Mike O. Guest

      AF is staying put according to an article I was able to dig up. EY and LO are also moving.

      https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2022/07/13/air-france-etihad-and-lot-named-as-anchor-airlines-of-forthcoming-jfk-new-terminal-one/?fbclid=IwAR0tnfh7Z_jQP8fu97gVFxNj_cNj1nzrEN_MVTEB2HelSfyO3LYYBCSWBdw

    5. Kiwi Guest

      LH is moving to the new T6

    6. MaxPower Guest

      Has anyone ever connected on AS from JL at JFK? why would you?

    7. dx Guest

      As of now, IB and JAL will both be moving to T8 between December 2022 - May 2023, and in all likelihood so will AS.

  19. Jin Guest

    I wonder what this means for ANA. With BA moving out of Terminal 7 and assuming they'll be shuttering their current Terminal 7 lounges, what lounges with ANA use for F and J customers? Or, will ANA also relocate somewhere else?

    1. Jap Guest

      That was also my question since I have a ANA F flight now in December

  20. Kerry Gold

    Overall, this is a welcome development for us frequent BA fliers, as terminal 7 has been a complete nightmare, especially for arrivals, for some years. Designed in the 1960s for narrowbodies, even 777s have to be towed into the gates.

    Having said that, do we have any info on whether the new lounges will all be jointly branded or unique to BA? If they are all joint, suggests they will be terribly crowded in...

    Overall, this is a welcome development for us frequent BA fliers, as terminal 7 has been a complete nightmare, especially for arrivals, for some years. Designed in the 1960s for narrowbodies, even 777s have to be towed into the gates.

    Having said that, do we have any info on whether the new lounges will all be jointly branded or unique to BA? If they are all joint, suggests they will be terribly crowded in the evenings. Also will the first class check in area be jointly branded or will BA maintain its own area?

  21. Long Way Around Guest

    This is not good news. I just flew out of T7 with BA a few days ago for the first time, and I have to say, I was super impressed. Small and easy terminal to navigate, but the lounge was absolutely massive. Full a la carte menu in both business and first lounges, and just a huge variety of spaces and seating options. It's honestly the most impressive "new" (to me) lounge I tried for...

    This is not good news. I just flew out of T7 with BA a few days ago for the first time, and I have to say, I was super impressed. Small and easy terminal to navigate, but the lounge was absolutely massive. Full a la carte menu in both business and first lounges, and just a huge variety of spaces and seating options. It's honestly the most impressive "new" (to me) lounge I tried for a couple of years. Very sad to think that they are now going to cram passangers into a smaller lounge packed with AA guests. Sounds like a significant downgrade.

  22. BA GGL Guest

    Key question - will T8 have a real fast track, like the one BA has in T7.

  23. Justin Guest

    Can't wait to see what this means for Alaska while they're still in Terminal 7, that place has been a total zoo since travel bounced back after Covid. A little breathing room there will be nice! I'm assuming they'll eventually also colocate into T8.

  24. Lee Guest

    Terminal 8 is supposed to expand - new gates are to be added.

    Based on previously released images of the new lounge, the images in this article don't seem to offer the full picture.

  25. Mike O. Guest

    I wish they built out the eastern portion of the headhouse as it looks unfinished. And I'm not really a fan of the ceiling as well as the design of the steel beams, but that's a completely different topic.

    1. derek Guest

      Ha, I always thought it was unfinished! Texas Tech University medical school built an entire building and left the interior unfinished for many years. This could have been done with T8.

      T7 used to be called the British Airways Terminal. Close to an end of an era.

    2. Mike O. Guest

      It was actually the BOAC Terminal. But yes, does look unfinished.

      One thing I'm going to miss about terminal 7 is how small it is. You can get from curbside to gate in about 10 minutes. I especially enjoyed going through security by the BA First check-in counters when flying with CX as the queues were relatively short and you didn't have to deal with those full body scanners.

      Unfortunately, terminal 7 is outdated in...

      It was actually the BOAC Terminal. But yes, does look unfinished.

      One thing I'm going to miss about terminal 7 is how small it is. You can get from curbside to gate in about 10 minutes. I especially enjoyed going through security by the BA First check-in counters when flying with CX as the queues were relatively short and you didn't have to deal with those full body scanners.

      Unfortunately, terminal 7 is outdated in the 2020s with its tight ramps and narrow alleyways.

    3. beckypaul Guest

      9/11 put an end to the original intended footprint for T8. Construction began in 1999 I think, or at least the project was announced then, and it opened in stages, starting in 2007. Originally, it was to have 2 mid field concourses and a larger head house.

  26. CB Guest

    How will the new dining work for AA fliers after they eliminate first class?

    1. Lee Guest

      Part two of the question is how will the new dining work for BA fliers when the Concorde Room is left behind?

  27. shoeguy Guest

    This is not a sudden development. It has been in the works for some time, and it is about time. Terminal 7 is a cramped, aged facility that has been redone several times since the early 1990s and yet still manages to be an unpleasant place to depart from, whether during peak times or not. Terminal 7 has lost a number of airlines since the mid-2010s as airlines like Qantas, Cathay Pacific, and United have...

    This is not a sudden development. It has been in the works for some time, and it is about time. Terminal 7 is a cramped, aged facility that has been redone several times since the early 1990s and yet still manages to be an unpleasant place to depart from, whether during peak times or not. Terminal 7 has lost a number of airlines since the mid-2010s as airlines like Qantas, Cathay Pacific, and United have decamped (QF and CX moved to T8 a long time ago) and UA left in 2015, came back, and at the end of the month, will be gone again from T7.

    We'll probably see IB and AS move to Terminal 8 eventually. A lot of that will depend on the future of the NEA and whether AA pulls down flights from JFK again which would create the capacity needed at T8 to accommodate IB and AS.

    Terminal 8 can be quite busy at times, particularly late afternoon. It's a huge space and the space was never quite well utilized. Hopefully, it will get better food and retail outlets than what it has had until now. Still, it is an eminently better and more pleasant terminal at JFK than virtually all of the others.

  28. Scudder Diamond

    IAG/OWJV seems to be leaving IB in limbo here. They haven't announced firm intentions to move to 8, let alone plans. Will they keep old BA lounges open in 7 for IB's two daily departures?

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305 Guest

JAL announced this week their intentions to relocate to T8 in May. Always found it insane that OW operated out of three different terminals at JFK, especially with AA shedding so many of their own metal flights to those partners in recent years. Made connections incredibly complicated.

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Mike O. Guest

It was actually the BOAC Terminal. But yes, does look unfinished. One thing I'm going to miss about terminal 7 is how small it is. You can get from curbside to gate in about 10 minutes. I especially enjoyed going through security by the BA First check-in counters when flying with CX as the queues were relatively short and you didn't have to deal with those full body scanners. Unfortunately, terminal 7 is outdated in the 2020s with its tight ramps and narrow alleyways.

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RBNY Guest

Addiitonally, all Iberia flights will move to terminal 8 as of December 1, per an email I received from them today.

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