Korean Air Plans To Retire Their First A380 In 2018 (Update: Incorrect Info)

Update: A Korean Air spokesperson has reached out to indicate that the information from AirLive is incorrect, and that the airline doesn’t have plans to retire any A380s in the near future.

While Emirates loves their A380s, other than that the A380 has been struggling. None of the other operators of the plane have been able to scale their network with A380s enough to make them “work,” which is why we’re seeing Singapore Airlines return their first five A380s, and we’re also seeing Malaysia Airlines eventually retire their A380s (though they have a bit more life left in them).

It looks like yet another airline is parking their A380s. AirLive is quoting Korean Air’s CEO as saying that the airline intends to retire their first A380 in 2018. Korean Air plans to store the first A380 in Roswell, New Mexico, until a new owner is found (in other words, it may be there forever).

The airline would rather focus on twin engine jets, and is reportedly considering the A350, though I’d be surprised if they place an order. Apparently Korean Air is having trouble filling even half the plane at times, in which case the A380 is a total waste. Korean Air has 10 A380s in their fleet, and we don’t yet know how many they plan on retiring.

Unfortunately this news doesn’t come as much of a surprise, and I’ve never understood Korean Air’s strategy when it comes to the plane. Korean Air has the lowest density A380s of any airline operating the aircraft, as their A380s have just 407 seats, including 301 economy seats, 94 business class seats, and 12 first class seats. Meanwhile other airlines have 500+ seats on the plane, and Emirates even has two cabin A380s with 615 seats.

Korean Air’s A380 economy is exceptional, with 33+ inches of pitch. However, what makes no sense is that they have the lowest density A380s while also having among the most underwhelming first & business class hard products of any airline operating the plane.

First class consists of 12 seats in an open layout.

Meanwhile business class is in a 2-2-2 layout.

If you’re going to have such a spacious layout, you’d think you’d at least want to establish a product advantage, but they haven’t even done that. The only thing that stands out is the onboard bar at the back of business class.

Of course this is all a moot point, when the problem is that they can’t even fill half of the seats. Korean Air is also one of only two airlines to order both the A380 and the 747-8, which seems like a puzzling decision as well.

I’ll be curious to see how this Korean Air A380 situation unfolds. There’s no doubt they’re under a lot of pressure, due to competition from Chinese and Gulf carriers, which are pushing their prices and load factors down.

Are you surprised to see Korean Air planning on parking some A380s?

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Fred M Guest

KE uses three different aircraft on the daily London rotation according to seasonal or operational demand - 380, 747-8 and 773ER. Only the 747 has all-aisle access in business class and the other two have the dreaded third seat in the centre. The biz cabins are drab and soulless and the A380 bar at the rear has very limited seating and, for part of my last return trip, was unstaffed with half the seating occupied by two surly men there not for cocktails but to escape a loud snorer in their part of the cabin. Not a patch on an EK or VS bar for appearance, ambience or service. The front seating area has only 2 or 4 seats, if memory serves, and the limited amenities therein were not replenished once gone on my last rotation. None of my several KE A380 rotations have been anything like full in business or first though large tour groups appear to keep economy well used. KE faces direct competition from Asian on the LHR-Seoul direct run and there are other ways to route there. Given the appeal of EK’s all-A380 routings from multiple UK airports to many popular destinations with just one plane change stop in Dubai, you can see why they can lure more pax to the 380 and make its business case work, while the likes of KE struggle.

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Chris Matthews-de Paul Guest

If you have made an error on the article, as the Airlive link is not representing what you are stating, then you should either remove most of the article and just write the blurb above for the update to the story or remove it entirely. Otherwise it would seem to just be stirring up drama and not provide any actual factual news, in keeping the entire incorrect article which is based upon opinion and not reflecting its title.

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Chandler Guest

Does anyone have any info on what actually happened on the ANA flight that returned to LAX?

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greg New Member

@max @jay HNL put out a bid to reconfigure 1-2 gates to support the A380... but I have a feeling it will not complete on time unfortunately. But yea KR usually flies 2 747-8s to HNL with both arriving at hour of each other. Once in awhile one of the 2 is down-gauged to A330 but its rare.

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Max Guest

@Jay ANA has plans to operate the A380 to HNL in 2018... Don't know whether they are doing any works to accommodate it just thought i'd throw that in.

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