Grrr: What To Do With Korean Air SkyPass Miles?

This is both a genuine question and a bit of a cautionary tale…

How I acquired a lot of Korean Air SkyPass miles

I have roughly 600K Korean Air SkyPass miles, which I’ve had in my account since 2018. You see, the Chase Ultimate Rewards program used to have Korean Air SkyPass as a transfer partner, but that partnership ended in late 2018.

Ahead of it ending, many of us were trying to decide whether or not to make a speculative transfer. While I’d usually prefer not to make a speculative points transfer, Korean Air SkyPass was a unique partner for a variety of reasons:

  • The program had incredibly low redemption rates for travel on Korean Air
  • The program allowed you to redeem miles for Korean Air first class, and Korean Air was one of the most consistent airlines with making first class award seats available
  • The program had generous policies in general, ranging from the ability to hold awards, to stopover on one-way awards, and more
  • The program offered value for SkyTeam partner redemptions as well; for example, you could redeem SkyPass miles for China Eastern first class and Saudia first class, even though reciprocal first class redemptions in SkyTeam are incredibly rare
  • Korean Air SkyPass didn’t partner with any other major transferable points currency, so it was pretty clear that this was the last opportunity to rack up a lot of SkyPass miles
Redeeming for China Eastern first class was sort of fun!

At the time, my logic in making the transfer was that 600K miles would be enough for two roundtrip first class tickets for two people to Asia. Given how virtually no other airline made first class award seats available across the Pacific in advance (especially for more than one person), I figured that was a risk worth taking, given the upside.

Well, suffice it to say that my feelings on that have changed somewhat…

SkyPass miles were my ticket to Korean Air first class!

Korean Air has basically cut first class awards

When I speculatively transferred Chase points to Korean Air, my goal was to redeem all those miles within several years. I hadn’t planned for the coronavirus pandemic, which meant that travel to Asia wasn’t practical for nearly three years.

Now as Asia has fully reopened, I’m looking to redeem my Korean Air SkyPass miles, though I’m realizing that I’m having a hard time getting excited about redeeming them.

Let’s start with what hasn’t changed — Korean Air SkyPass redemption rates are actually the same now as back then. Korean Air wanted to devalue its SkyPass program during the pandemic, but ended up postponing that indefinitely. The reason? South Korea has strong consumer protections, and Korean Air is currently trying to acquire Asiana, so the airline didn’t want to do anything that consumers could view as a negative change.

What has changed, unfortunately, is the ability to redeem Korean Air SkyPass miles for first class. Korean Air seems to have basically completely eliminated first class awards, no matter whether you’re booking last minute or far in advance.

Admittedly transpacific demand has been very high recently, given how limited capacity is from mainland Chinese carriers. However, I’m even seeing Korean Air flights within a few days of departure where six or more first class seats are for sale, yet there are no award seats.

So it seems that Korean Air has had a change of heart, and no longer makes first class award seats available, at least between the United States and Asia. What makes the situation even worse is that before the pandemic, Korean Air announced it would greatly reduce its first class footprint, so there aren’t nearly as many planes with first class as before.

Korean Air even has a handy award availability calendar, where you can see first class award availability for an entire year in a particular route in a matter of minutes. There you can easily see just how bad the situation has become.

So it’s interesting how the program has avoided increasing mileage costs, but rather the devaluation seems to be coming in the form of simply not releasing award seats in first class anymore.

Korean Air’s first class footprint has shrunk considerably

So, what should I do with Korean Air SkyPass miles?

I know I’m not the only one who is in this situation, so I figured it would be interesting to discuss the best ways to redeem Korean Air SkyPass miles. A few thoughts:

  • Without Korean Air first class, I suppose the only redemptions possible through SkyPass but not other programs would be China Eastern first class and Saudia first class, and I don’t necessarily have some huge urge to fly with those airlines again
  • You can always redeem SkyPass miles for Korean Air business class; I suppose I’ll book one of those again soon, but I’m not necessarily looking to fly Korean Air business class that often, so I won’t go through all of my SkyPass miles that way
  • I suppose I could redeem for other SkyTeam partner airline travel, but generally SkyPass doesn’t have the best redemption rates, plus the program requires roundtrip awards on partners, which isn’t ideal; I’d rather book most SkyTeam awards through Air France-KLM Flying Blue
  • You can’t even use SkyPass miles for redemptions for friends, since the program only lets you redeem for yourself or family members
I could redeem my SkyPass miles for Korean Air business class

Bottom line

In life we take all kinds of risks, and some pay off, while others don’t. In my case, I transferred lots of Chase points to Korean Air years ago, before that partnership ended. Unfortunately that didn’t end up being a great decision, as Korean Air makes virtually no first class awards available anymore (which was my primary motive in collecting these miles).

I’m not beating myself up too much, since I couldn’t have predicted the pandemic, and for that matter, I’ll still find a use for these miles. However, at a minimum I think this is a good reminder of the risks of speculative transfers.

Anyone else still have a big sum of Korean Air SkyPass miles? Any requests for how I should redeem these and what you’d like me to review with these SkyPass miles?

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Joshua H. Guest

please bring back Korean air as a transfer partner Chase!

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MuhRoads Guest

There's no Business Class availability either! Nada. Zip. Nothing for any flight from the USA to Korea from today out as far as their system will allow you to look. Not one single day, not one seat. This is a complete F you to everyone who earned miles or points for Korean Air. They should be ashamed of themselves. I hope someone starts a class action lawsuit.

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Brian Guest

First class is hardly worth the fuss over business class. I flew it a few times just because the redemption rate was nearly the same and while yes, it's better, it's not something I'm going to write an article about. It does suck that they aren't putting out any tickets at all, but whatever. I had loads of shipping going on during Covid and couldn't take out and close AMEX gold cards fast enough to keep up with the spend so I wound up dumping all of the extra spend to Marriot Bonvoy and then transferred over to Korean Air miles; I still have about a million miles outstanding and I started traveling again OFTEN in 2021 as soon as Asia started opening back up. Now, I live in Asia and will probably only redeem a flight to and from the USA once a year. My issue is that they really don't release enough business award tickets. You can look out a year and it'll be tough to find 1 ticket available in business, never mind 2 if you're trying to bring someone along. I do use ATL and it's competitive and I know that LAX and ORD tend to have more options but they are not convenient for me. The worst part is I have no idea when I want to go home or come back so I've found myself trying to book a flight each way every month and see if I can hit a ticket with a flight time change that grants me free cancellation up until an hour before the flight. Even if that doesn't happen, I still get 91 days to cancel it for free. So I am probably one of those hogs sucking up all the award tickets as soon as they're spotted. I think it's a combo of people finding cheap miles and KE reducing the available award tickets. I recall 10 years ago getting onto a flight that only had a couple of award business tickets available and I was the only one in business class for that 15 hour flight to Korea! A year later on a totally different airlane, one of the stewardesses remembered me and approached me, then talking to her co-worker, speaking in Korean and giggling. Maybe I should have tried to join the mile high club that day but I was tired lol I think until Korean air finally jacks up the cost of their award tickets, it's going to remain a scramble to get them. I'm not going to complain too much since the cost for my to fly buiness is about 35% tax considering the opportunity loss I had when I accumulated all of these miles. And now that Amex has dropped shipping as a bonus category with their gold card, I can get miles whenever I want dirt cheap again. I probably won't need many more though. Watch out for the consequences of Covid and online business transactions; there was a lot of talk about the purchase of business class seats declining rapidly after Covid and that's how a lot of these long flights basically get funded. We might see business class start to disappear as an award availability all together. And i cannot fly economy anymore so I guess I'll be dishing out the money if I have to.

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SRock Gibson Guest

I love Korean Air miles for domestic economy on Delta (search and buy at the Korean Air website as a "Sky Team" award). They always price out at 12,500 miles per one-way leg or 25,000 miles round trip. The ticket is issued in Delta Main with free reserved seat selection (not Basic Economy). Nowadays, when you price out any halfway desirable, non-redeye long haul domestic route on Delta that's not Basic Economy, it prices out at > 50K Skymiles miles roundtrip, so the Korean Air miiles represents a huge savings for domestic economy travel on Delta.

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PCT Member

We just booked two J tickets JFK ICN SIN (75K/each) in two weeks. I am giving up on finding first class inventory. perfectly happy booking the 380 and at least enjoying the onboard bar. We had 170,000 miles and probably will just not use the remaining 20 K? We did enjoy KE 380 F several years ago and it was fantastic but not sure there is much difference in the soft product these days?

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