How To Earn Hilton Honors Lifetime Diamond Status

How To Earn Hilton Honors Lifetime Diamond Status

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Most major hotel programs offer a way to earn lifetime elite status, which is a way for hotel groups to reward those who have been exceptionally loyal over the years. In this post I wanted to take a look at how you can earn lifetime status in the Hilton Honors program.

Hilton Honors’ lifetime status program

While Hilton Honors has three elite tiers — Silver, Gold, and Diamond — the program only offers lifetime Diamond status, meaning there’s no way to earn lifetime Silver or Gold status. Lifetime status is still a relatively new concept to the Hilton Honors program, as it was only introduced back in 2015.

In order to earn Hilton Honors lifetime Diamond status:

  • Members must have maintained Hilton Honors Diamond status for 10 years (the years don’t need to be consecutive)
  • Members must have stayed a total of at least 1,000 nights (either paid or award) OR must have accumulated at least two million base points since joining the Hilton Honors program

As you can see, everyone needs to earn Diamond status for 10 years, and then complete one of the two other requirements. For some context on those requirements:

  • Hilton Honors Diamond status ordinarily requires 60 elite nights per year, so 1,000 nights is the equivalent of earning Diamond status for over 16 years
  • Hilton Honors members earn 10 base points per dollar spent at most hotel brands, meaning earning two million base points is the equivalent of $200,000 in eligible Hilton Honors spending; base points don’t include any sort of points earned through promotions, or points earned through co-branded Hilton Honors cards

Hilton Honors Diamond status is Hilton’s top-tier status, and it includes perks like room upgrades subject to availability, complimentary breakfast and/or executive lounge access, bonus points, premium internet, and much more. Read my full guide to Hilton Honors Diamond status here.

Receive complimentary breakfast as a Hilton Honors Diamond member

Can you earn Hilton Honors lifetime status with credit cards?

One of the things that I love about the Hilton Honors program is how easy it is to earn status with credit cards, including top-tier Diamond status:

Can the Diamond status earned through co-branded credit cards count toward lifetime Diamond status? Yes and no:

  • Diamond status earned through credit cards does count toward the 10 year Diamond status requirement for lifetime status
  • However, you’d still need to rack up either 1,000 nights or two million base points, which is the much bigger hurdle

So yes, credit cards can help with one metric of lifetime status, but not with the biggest hurdle that needs to be overcome.

Credit cards will only get you so far with Hilton Honors lifetime status

Is Hilton Honors lifetime status worth it?

Yes, go check into a Hampton Inn for 1,000 nights, it’s totally worth it. 😉

In all honesty, the answer is much more nuanced than that:

  • Generally speaking I don’t think lifetime status is worth going out of your way for too much, given the extent to which loyalty programs are in control — they can change both the qualification requirements and benefits of status at will
  • I don’t value the concept of lifetime Hilton Honors Diamond status that much, given how easy it is to earn Hilton Honors status otherwise; I can maintain this status every year just by holding onto a fantastic credit card, so there’s nothing I’m really missing out on
  • The one lifetime hotel status that gets me most excited is lifetime World of Hyatt Globalist status, both due to the general perks associated with Globalist status, and also because benefits stack for lifetime Globalist members, which is to say they receive an extra four suite upgrade awards per year, more free night certificates, etc.
  • As a point of comparison, lifetime Marriott Bonvoy Platinum status is much easier to earn, and Marriott Platinum perks are roughly comparable to Hilton Diamond perks, in my opinion

If you happen to find yourself staying at Hiltons a lot then lifetime status is definitely worth keeping in the back of your mind, though it’s not worth doing anything too drastic to earn the lifetime status, in my opinion.

Hilton Honors Diamond members may sometimes receive suite upgrades

Bottom line

The Hilton Honors program gives members the opportunity to earn lifetime Diamond status by qualifying for Diamond status for 10 years, and then earning either 1,000 elite nights or two million base points (equivalent to at least $200,000 in spending at Hilton hotels).

Hilton has some fairly steep lifetime status requirements, especially given how attainable Diamond status is otherwise, and how the benefits aren’t that generous, compared to the competition.

What’s your take on Hilton Honors’ lifetime Diamond status? Are any OMAAT readers lifetime Diamond members?

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  1. dwondermeant Guest

    I've got Lifetime Globalist with Hyatt and Lifetime Titanium with Marriott Bonvoy
    and coming up on LT Hilton Diamond.Also Plat Amb with IHG (yawn) No LT offered
    IHG moves the needle a tad with its recent improvements though still has far to go.

    They all suck at some point in time because needs/expectations are different for every guest.
    Frequently its whats best for the hotel and its available manpower
    And while...

    I've got Lifetime Globalist with Hyatt and Lifetime Titanium with Marriott Bonvoy
    and coming up on LT Hilton Diamond.Also Plat Amb with IHG (yawn) No LT offered
    IHG moves the needle a tad with its recent improvements though still has far to go.

    They all suck at some point in time because needs/expectations are different for every guest.
    Frequently its whats best for the hotel and its available manpower
    And while some have a data base to research your preferences many pay no attention before arrival.
    This is where Hyatt's program may succeed more often than some others with less hotels and more time to make for happy guests on average in the full service properties
    Covid has wildly strained much of that over the past few years sadly.
    Eventually things should smooth out over time and come back stronger.

    Status of course is better than no status typically
    After 40 years on the road before most bloggers were born its really up to the individual hotel and its ownership and management culture as to how they will perform
    With my 150 nights a year if I've learned anything is there are hotels that do a terrible job delivering benefits,hotels that meet most expectations and those that wildly exceed all expectations that are mind blowing.Presidential suites Royal suites even a private Casita on the beach complimentary lavish dinners etc
    The GM or assistant meeting me at the airport to avoid the shuttle or taking me to a business appt
    I could write the book but if I do I would ruin some of the best kept secrets to my own success.

    What I will share its all about being a good guest treating others well and never coming off as condescending or demanding.Perhaps hard to hear but tipping well especially in premium properties.
    In one luxury property a bellman got on the phone walking me to my room with our luggage.
    He calls down I'm here with The Wonderment party one of our favorite guests and they are wishing for a larger premium suite.Might we have something better more luxurious we can get them into?
    Sure enough they did.Wasn't a Hilton property for the record
    Think of yourself owning a hotel what kind of guest would be your ideal guest you wish to keep and please and what behavior might they exhibit?And if its busy who are you going to select with 100 or more elites in house?
    Its interesting as over the decades when I've been invited to dinner with management or had coffee/conversation with a FO manager the thought process can be quite different the world over
    as to who the so called best guest is!

    Over the years corporate has allowed most hotels more wiggle room to call the shots more freely.
    The programs are all the best when they work/perform well on a given day
    Recently an Intercontinental hotel performed better than my decades of most anything with HH status.
    As a longtime guest of the hotel mid tier status
    I received complimentary unlimited breakfast for 2 all week no dollar limit, a large fruit bowl in the living room 4 PM check out and a suite.Also daily huge bottles of premium bottled water and a one time 20 dollar credit for the stay.Housekeeping attended every day to my room and asked me was everything to my liking.
    Not the norm at all.
    But my point is hotel loyalty is just as important as status is.
    Some hotels I have stayed in every year for 25 years.And when the program or hotel may restrict premium suites I may be in one anyway.
    Sure there are hotels that lie, game the system and with many better allowable upgraded accommodations available yet sadly say all sold out sorry.If I catch them they may lose my business
    If they have a better customer,committed I can accept that fully.

    I mostly find elite status benefits to be individual hotel driven,their business culture and even the local competition .Having spent to much time reading blogs and other travelers experiences it amazes me how many elites just show up at the hotel and expect a great experience never once giving the hotel a heads up to your hopeful expectations in advance or finding out about what they can or cannot expect.
    Its great opportunity to see if its worth proceeding with the reservation at all.You can tell so much about a hotel just by the way they communicate with you and seem to care.

    I have no data points with Lifetime HH Diamond but have low expectations going into it
    Hopefully I might be happily surprised.For me the reason to stay Hilton is simply trust.
    They have the best brand assurance compared to the majors as long as there
    has been a reasonable failure with your stay.
    Having a variety of program status tiers allows me to cherry pick wherever I travel the best experience and /value and not ever worry about meeting thresholds to achieve that status.

    Had Hilton had 4 PM check out or even 2 PM checkout guarantee I would have spent hundreds of thousands more years ago for work functions and leisure.For that reason they came in second to last place.
    Its their choice not mine.I will always execute my right and wallet where it makes the most sense
    and suggest others do the same.My biggest complaint with Hilton is having to negotiate the late check out and sometimes you have to get approval from management as hotel operators FD agents are told to say everyone needs to go now!

  2. Bob Guest

    I just completed 40 nights at 30 different Hilton properties as a Lifetime Diamond VIP.
    I sent Hilton Honors an e mail that no one reads complaining about the terrible treatment of Lifetime Diamond Members. An upgrade at check in is non existent. Most people at check in don't even recognize you as a LD VIP and some don't even know what it means. Upgrade rooms were available at check in as I confirmed...

    I just completed 40 nights at 30 different Hilton properties as a Lifetime Diamond VIP.
    I sent Hilton Honors an e mail that no one reads complaining about the terrible treatment of Lifetime Diamond Members. An upgrade at check in is non existent. Most people at check in don't even recognize you as a LD VIP and some don't even know what it means. Upgrade rooms were available at check in as I confirmed that with housekeeping at many properties but hotel owners don't want you to get it as they figure they may be able to sell it to a walk in after you check in. A lifetime should NEVER have to pay for parking and I'm not talking about Miami or Lauderdale or Chicago. Lifetime should NEVER have to pay for breakfast, not even the food credit program. Now to cap the disgrace off, Hilton said because of my loyalty and stays this year, I could grant someone Gold status. Can you imagine how foolish that is ? They don't reward ME, they expect ME to award someone else. This program is seriously lacking meaning. Hilton needs to wake up and start appreciating loyalty not just lip service.

    1. Chris Guest

      I have been a Diamond member for years. I have never once been upgraded even when upgraded rooms are available (it is easy enough to check). I pay for parking. I pay for breakfast (the credit doesn't cut it). Honestly, I don't see the benefit and so I have begun using a different credit card rewards program. I love Hilton but I am not treated any better than someone who walks in off of the street.

    2. DCS Guest

      I truly feel sorry for folks who stick with a program long enough to meet the requirements for lifetime status but bitch about how the program treated them like shit.

      Either you are lying about your experience (you have no status at all) or you deserved to be treated like shit because you are clueless. There is no other way to explain folks like you.

    3. Tone Guest

      I totally agree. I’ve been diamond for 12 years. I’ve had a person at check in tell me the manager advised them not to upgrade to specific rooms too. (Reserve only for paying customers) free breakfast has moved to a 15 dollar voucher that doesn’t even cover the cost of breakfast at most of the hotels. What a shame

  3. Lee Sanyos Guest

    Being a lifetime Bonvoy, I wish I had found Hilton earlier. Marriott watered down its program with less nights and years required for lifetime platinum, it is a slap in the face for the road warriors. CC don't necessary seem fair to achieve the same because the time spent and money is completely different, I stopped staying at Marriott and switched to Hilton. Was already over 20 years, 17 at Platinum before I did so. I could have been closer to Hilton Diamond.

  4. Mr juice Guest

    I contacted Hilton, and surprised to hear that I already have enough base points for lifetime diamond, and need just one more year of status to achieve. I might pick up the credit card for a year just to knock that out. Not sure if it is worth it, I have been avoiding them the last couple years, their diamond was always lackluster, especially in the Americans. I haven't stayed with them since new advance...

    I contacted Hilton, and surprised to hear that I already have enough base points for lifetime diamond, and need just one more year of status to achieve. I might pick up the credit card for a year just to knock that out. Not sure if it is worth it, I have been avoiding them the last couple years, their diamond was always lackluster, especially in the Americans. I haven't stayed with them since new advance room upgrades rolled out, but I've read reports of them being stingy. Same for Marriott, and already have that lifetime top tier. Their SNA are garbage and very inconsistent benefits.

    If you care about staying in suites, hyatt confirmed standard suite upgrades are hands down the most valuable hotel perk out there. And they have been great with "just because" globalist upgrades on top of that, especially in the Americas and Europe.
    And Taj / Golden Circle has been the best about proactive status upgrades for me in Asia.

  5. Steve Reilly Guest

    Sorry, but Diamond at Hilton gets you very little. I been in the program since 1988 right up to Gold, then Diamond when it started. Still a Diamond, as well as my son, I can not recall getting up graded to a great room, most Hilton's in place of breakfast give you a few bucks to use, not enough to cover two breakfasts. For a vacation, most have to save for a life time, to get a week.

    1. DCS Diamond

      Your failure to take advantage of a program cannot be blamed on the program. What is even more puzzling is why you have patronized for 3 decades a program that has you claim has given you very little.

      For a vacation, most have to save for a life time, to get a week.

      Nonsense. No program offers more opportunities to earn and burn points than HHonors.

      Wanna know why you are not getting much out of the game? Just take a look in the mirror...

  6. Ehhhh Guest

    Lifetime anything doesn't seem to be worth the grind. I am perfectly content with the aspire card and the diamond gained from that.

    1. DCS Diamond

      Let's get something straight because even the forum host made a similar statement.

      A Lifetime status is not really something that one sets up as a goal to go through the 'grind' to achieve.

      It is something that one is likely to decide to go for years down the road when one realizes that one is within striking distance.

      So, spare us comments like
      "Lifetime anything doesn't seem to be worth the grind"

      Let's get something straight because even the forum host made a similar statement.

      A Lifetime status is not really something that one sets up as a goal to go through the 'grind' to achieve.

      It is something that one is likely to decide to go for years down the road when one realizes that one is within striking distance.

      So, spare us comments like
      "Lifetime anything doesn't seem to be worth the grind"
      because by the time one gets within striking distance one is way past the 'grind' and it would simply be criminal not to go for it.

      Take it from me, who's been there and done that ...

  7. John Guest

    Been a Diamond for 13 years but haven't really tracked my total nights that closely, and have no clue what my points are. Unlike the airlines, Hilton doesn't have a lifetime tracker. As others have posted, Diamond is most beneficial overseas. In the US, the hotel's definition of "upgraded room" can vary widely, from a much nicer room to the same exact room but with a nicer view of the parking lot. Looking at you, Hampton Inn.

  8. James Franz Guest

    First off thank you to all that has submitted to this conversation. From the hard working elite to the self entitled. The facts and the nonsense has been a great learning experience. I see the people that are struggling to obtain a certain level to the one's that have obtained it and kinda want to rub their status in people's faces. The big thing I see that's forgotten is that the industry has a loyalty...

    First off thank you to all that has submitted to this conversation. From the hard working elite to the self entitled. The facts and the nonsense has been a great learning experience. I see the people that are struggling to obtain a certain level to the one's that have obtained it and kinda want to rub their status in people's faces. The big thing I see that's forgotten is that the industry has a loyalty program that they use to reward consistent business. It also sounds like not everyone is as loyal as they want you to believe. Apart from that if you can stand back and look inside the box, you will see what it takes and the fruit it bears thru all of the testimonials from all these people. This is exactly what I've been looking for to help me with my decision with who to work for. The kind of people that I'll be serving. What you expect from me to be able to service your needs accordingly. Thank you for this article.

  9. Doc Guest

    I've been Diamond for years (more than 10), but I'm still years away from reaching the millions of base miles AND the zillion stays. And I'm going to be retiring, so I guess I'll never make it.
    There are a few hotels that I stay at5 that always upgrade me, but many seem to ignore this. As for the breakie credit? Ehhh, it usually covers almost nothing.
    That being said, I want to...

    I've been Diamond for years (more than 10), but I'm still years away from reaching the millions of base miles AND the zillion stays. And I'm going to be retiring, so I guess I'll never make it.
    There are a few hotels that I stay at5 that always upgrade me, but many seem to ignore this. As for the breakie credit? Ehhh, it usually covers almost nothing.
    That being said, I want to again stress that some hotels are great about the way they treat Diamond members. I go back to those, again and again. The others...I try to get out of those properties and stay at other Hilton ones instead. Usually. Hilton will assist with this if the request is reasonable.
    Add tot his the fact that Hilton keeps devaluing the points...
    I'll ever make lifetime Diamond, and at age 69, I've given up on staying another 400 nights to make it. Good thing I've got Marriott and Hyatt points.

  10. Azamaraal Diamond

    As a non-US citizen I do not qualify for the Aspire Card, or any HH card for that matter. That is a large loss. Thus I have to use stays/nights to re-qualify each year.
    I joined HH in 1996 in the UAE and made diamond early 2000. Earned Diamond ever since. Except for a short period when HH screwed up my records and dropped to Gold until they "Corrected" it. Here is the beginning...

    As a non-US citizen I do not qualify for the Aspire Card, or any HH card for that matter. That is a large loss. Thus I have to use stays/nights to re-qualify each year.
    I joined HH in 1996 in the UAE and made diamond early 2000. Earned Diamond ever since. Except for a short period when HH screwed up my records and dropped to Gold until they "Corrected" it. Here is the beginning of the tale of woe.

    1996 HH program was managed out of the UK. Their record keeping was dismal. Stays/nights had to be continually challenged as most often incorrect (under rewarded always). In 2006 moved to Canada and the record centre moved to the US. For years they could not deliver any transaction status emails and always managed to screw up long holidays that had multiple reservation confirmation numbers. The HH Lurker on Flyertalk and I almost became buddies with the number of times they had to get involved to correct the wrong posting of points/stays/nights. Stays with problems were typically in Mexico, Maldives, or Bali. Typically a 14 night stay with multiple record locators would receive 1 night credit instead of 14. This would explain most of the poor record keeping.

    When the program first started it was only PAID nights. So when it started they stated I had only 600 Paid nights. Then it became paid and reward stays. My numbers stayed the same. After 8 more years qualifying for Diamond with nights/stays the last statement I received indicated still only low 700.

    So after 26 years mostly Diamond re-qualifying with at least 50+ nights per year Hilton still insists that I only have 700 qualifying nights when it should be (26 X 55 > 1400) . They are unable to provide any proof or records to substantiate their inaccurate count.

    At this point I have given up hope of reaching DFL.

    But it would definitely be worth it.

  11. Travel Girl Guest

    10 years earned diamond but only 700 nights I dont quali for lifetime.
    Question
    A few years ago (pre covid) HH offered a one time one year diamond extension.. when I didnt need it.. now I do .. how do I get an extension without stays/points??

    Have emailed diamond desk and they assume i am asking for lifetime !!! And say I dont qualify ....Doh
    ..

  12. Kevin Guest

    I'm not staying enough nights to keep my diamond status in 2023. If I get the aspire card this November or December does it automatically qualify me for Diamond next year as well as count this year as Diamond towards lifetime Diamond status?

    Thanks

  13. Richard V. Guest

    Hilton's Lifetime Diamond requirements single-handedly changed my loyalty to Marriott.

    I have more than 10 years of Hilton Diamond status, plus a bit shy of 700 nights in stays. With the merger of Marriott and Starwood, I was now in range to make Lifetime Platinum, as I recently passed the 600-night Marriott requirement and made my ninth year of Platinum earlier this year, headed to Titanium by years end.

    With retirement a few years...

    Hilton's Lifetime Diamond requirements single-handedly changed my loyalty to Marriott.

    I have more than 10 years of Hilton Diamond status, plus a bit shy of 700 nights in stays. With the merger of Marriott and Starwood, I was now in range to make Lifetime Platinum, as I recently passed the 600-night Marriott requirement and made my ninth year of Platinum earlier this year, headed to Titanium by years end.

    With retirement a few years out, there is no way I could rack up over 300 more Hilton nights, so as I was just under 100 nights shy with Marriott, it was a no-brainer to change my loyalty. Shame on you Hilton.

  14. Alan Guest

    Much more worthwhile for those of us not in the USA as (a) Diamond is actually worth something in other places (esp Asia!) and (b) we don't have a credit card option that provides Diamond status. As an aside, the earning rates on the card - which is closed to new custom - are a pittance in comparison too! I must say the new IHG breakfast benefit combined with much more reasonable redemption rates has swung much of my upcoming stays to them instead of Hilton.

  15. Mark Craven Guest

    The easiest way is to buy a Hilton hotel. Instant Diamond status. Or run an LLC the owns 25% of a hotel.

    1. Eskimo Guest

      I'm quite sure getting a credit card is much much much easier than owning a Hilton property, even for just 25%.

  16. James Jones Guest

    I have been Lifetime Diamond for 4 years now and love it! If I ever have a problem during one of my stays they are much quicker to help and assist me. You so get a nice Welcome Gift Box from Hilton mailed to you when you achieve Lifetime Diamond Status. I love this tier and do not encounter too many people who have it.

    1. DCS Diamond

      I did get my HH Lifetime Diamond Welcome Gift Box back in June but have not yet opened it, as I am hoping to write a piece about making the status in which I will show photos what comes in the Welcome box.

      I love this tier and do not encounter too many people who have it.

      That is because there aren't very many Lifetime Diamonds, which is why it is and will remain an...

      I did get my HH Lifetime Diamond Welcome Gift Box back in June but have not yet opened it, as I am hoping to write a piece about making the status in which I will show photos what comes in the Welcome box.

      I love this tier and do not encounter too many people who have it.

      That is because there aren't very many Lifetime Diamonds, which is why it is and will remain an exclusive status for a good while. Enjoy it and please push back hard against pieces like this one by people who have never and will likely never breathe the rarefied air at the very top.

  17. The Joe Guest

    @Ben: have you ever addressed the possibility of Hyatt changing LT Status Requirements? In my slow journey towards LT Globalist (1/3rd of the way there in 10 years), I've always been concerned that they might up and raise the limits. After all, $200K 10 years ago is worth more than 200K today, and inflation will continue to erode at it. Has this happened at any of the chains? Do you think it will?

    Thanks!

  18. DCS Diamond

    This thread is behaving strangely! Comments do not seem to post or if they post in they are in wrong places! Screen must refreshed etc...

    Elite Status Recognition Is What It's About
    I was to fly out on UA to GVA from EWR in late afternoon yesterday. After an inordinately long delay at Holland Tunnel out of Manhattan caused me to miss my flight and to be rescheduled to fly out the next day,...

    This thread is behaving strangely! Comments do not seem to post or if they post in they are in wrong places! Screen must refreshed etc...

    Elite Status Recognition Is What It's About
    I was to fly out on UA to GVA from EWR in late afternoon yesterday. After an inordinately long delay at Holland Tunnel out of Manhattan caused me to miss my flight and to be rescheduled to fly out the next day, I decided to just stay at a nearby hotel instead of returning to Manhattan. Naturally, I looked for a nearby Hilton property. I found Hilton Newark Airport and I booked a same-day use stay for $99 before taxes, which I thought was a great deal. I texted the hotel to request a shuttle bus pick-up and within minutes one had arrived to take me to the hotel, which is located only about 1.35 miles from EWR.

    Check-in was smooth, and I was so pissed to have missed the flight that I simply wanted to get to the room, which I was told was a complimentary upgrade to a King Deluxe, and unwind. It all sounded fine until I got to my assigned room the cardkey didn't work. Then I noticed the gold-colored cardkey envelop that said "we're honored to have you as a Gold Member" and it was clear that I was checked in by someone who was clueless. That snapped me out of my "funk" for missing the flight and I decided to be more "assertive". I went back down to ask for another cardkey and, as luck would have it, I was attended to this time by a manager who immediately thanked me for my loyalty as LF Diamond, tossed away the gold-colored enveloped, and then not only did she apologize for the snafu with the cardkey that did not work, but she also offered me a complimentary appetizer and beverage at the hotel lobby bar/restaurant "to make it right". But that was not all! She looked in the computer and told me that there was an executive suite available into she'd just upgraded me for the night! She then handed me a cardkey in a black-colored envelop that said "we're honored to have you as a Lifetime Diamond Member."

    That did not in China. It happened right here in good ol' Garden State, USA!

    I could really get used to such treatment...

    G'day!

    1. UA-NYC Guest

      TL; DR for most, but to summarize:
      1) You had a one night stay at an off-site airport location (read: should be upgrade goldmine)
      2) You, as a VERY VALUABLE LT DIAMOND that you have been crowing about, got stiffed w/ a basic room
      3) You went downstairs with your laminated copy of the T&Cs to shove it in the FDC's face
      4) You then got upgraded to a suite (note...

      TL; DR for most, but to summarize:
      1) You had a one night stay at an off-site airport location (read: should be upgrade goldmine)
      2) You, as a VERY VALUABLE LT DIAMOND that you have been crowing about, got stiffed w/ a basic room
      3) You went downstairs with your laminated copy of the T&Cs to shove it in the FDC's face
      4) You then got upgraded to a suite (note - Hyatt would have done this from the start, Marriott possibly)
      5. You got a free drink and an appetizer (note...not a comped meal...an appetizer) that probably costs the property ~$3 in actual cost.

      Loyalty has its benefits!!! lol

    2. DCS Diamond

      Did I not just tell you to get lost? You are and have always been tedious, especially when trying to discredit something that cannot be.

      Take the experience I described and repeat it over a lifetime...

      Claims about what your favored programs would have done are real only in your dreams. You know that and I know that. So, get lost.

    3. UA-NYC Diamond

      "Hilton couldn't follow their own T&Cs and upgrade me to a suite at a non-prime property for a single night, I got angry, got a suite and a free drink & a plate of chicken wings...LOYALTY LIKE NONE OTHER!!!"

    4. DCS Diamond

      Hilton couldn't follow their own T&Cs and upgrade me to a suite at a non-prime property for a single night

      Even for you, that is an utterly stupid read, as it should be obvious (even for you) that automated upgrades are no-op on Same-Day Use stays, which makes the story and my upgrade to an executive suite [excluded from upgrades] the more remarkable.

      Get lost.

    5. UA-NYC Diamond

      Ignoring the fact that you are claiming to book a same-day stay for what appears to be an overnight stay (yikes, better hope Hilton doesn't audit you for that...someone should alert them, not a good look for a LIFETIME DIAMOND) the bigger news is that the Hilton upgrade T&Cs are even MORE restrictive than most would think.

    6. DCS Diamond

      What a nasty piece of work you are!

      I did book a same-day use stay, in broad daylight, and it was so short it was not even eligible for booking with points. So, be my guest and call the anyone you'd like and turn me in. And the notion that Hilton T&C on upgrades are more restrictive than most would think is pure nonsense because the thing about Hilton upgrades is precisely that there...

      What a nasty piece of work you are!

      I did book a same-day use stay, in broad daylight, and it was so short it was not even eligible for booking with points. So, be my guest and call the anyone you'd like and turn me in. And the notion that Hilton T&C on upgrades are more restrictive than most would think is pure nonsense because the thing about Hilton upgrades is precisely that there are no rules other than availability.

      Speaking of upgrades, I just cleared yet another Prem Economy to Polaris business PlusPoints upgrade, this time on my EWR-GVA flight that is about to taxi out, making it 5/5 for the year. These are not your grand daddy's CPUs either

    7. UA-NYC Diamond

      So did you stay overnight or not? EWR-GVA only runs 1x a day, and if you missed your flight, sounds like you stayed there overnight and waited for the next day, vs. returning home.

      If you booked a "day rate" and did that, smells like fraud to me.

    8. DCS Diamond

      My gosh I'd forgotten just how stupid you are!

      Unlike you, I am too smart to even think about doing "fraud". I booked a legitimate Workspaces Day Use rate by Hilton

      Rate is subject to rate details herein and the selected hotel’s booking terms and conditions. Rate is subject to availability at participating hotels & resorts within the Hilton Portfolio. Rate provides use of a guestroom for a set number of hours, determined at the...

      My gosh I'd forgotten just how stupid you are!

      Unlike you, I am too smart to even think about doing "fraud". I booked a legitimate Workspaces Day Use rate by Hilton

      Rate is subject to rate details herein and the selected hotel’s booking terms and conditions. Rate is subject to availability at participating hotels & resorts within the Hilton Portfolio. Rate provides use of a guestroom for a set number of hours, determined at the local hotel level and complimentary Wi-Fi. To convert this reservation to an overnight stay, a new reservation must be created. WorkSpaces by Hilton reservations cannot be extended to an overnight stay. Guests are not permitted to utilize the guestroom overnight or host meetings in the guestroom. Any discount earned is non-transferable and must be consumed during same stay in which it was earned.

      Participating hotels may suspend participation at any time without additional notice. Unless otherwise noted, rates are valid for single occupancy and are exclusive of all taxes, incidental charges, and gratuities. Blackout dates or cancellation restrictions may apply and vary by hotel. This offer may not be combined with other select promotions, offers or discounts and is not valid for existing reservations or groups. To book by phone, please contact the hotel directly and request the “WorkSpaces by Hilton” rate.

      Feel stupid enough now?

    9. Eskimo Guest

      @UA-NYC

      LOL I'm actually defending @DCS on this one.

      "4) You then got upgraded to a suite (note - Hyatt would have done this from the start, Marriott possibly)"

      I can assure you Hyatt does play the no suite game with Globalists, not as shameful as Bonvoy, but still do.
      At least the confirmed upgrade works a lot better than Bonvoy's version.

      With the pre upgrades, I don't really have to play that game...

      @UA-NYC

      LOL I'm actually defending @DCS on this one.

      "4) You then got upgraded to a suite (note - Hyatt would have done this from the start, Marriott possibly)"

      I can assure you Hyatt does play the no suite game with Globalists, not as shameful as Bonvoy, but still do.
      At least the confirmed upgrade works a lot better than Bonvoy's version.

      With the pre upgrades, I don't really have to play that game anymore. Now my single stay suite upgrade at what seem to be a low occupancy doesn't say much. But at least corporate is taking the game away from the property. I feel it's a matter of time before the properties rebel.

  19. Levi Gold

    It's also worth noting that for the rest of 2022, credit card points are being counted as base points. $667k in non-category spend to go zero to LT (even over the 2 calendar years this has been in force) is a heavy lift, but you could make a dent in the requirements. Some form of this (perhaps limited to 3 base points per dollar) might continue, as I understand Hilton liked the extra spending on...

    It's also worth noting that for the rest of 2022, credit card points are being counted as base points. $667k in non-category spend to go zero to LT (even over the 2 calendar years this has been in force) is a heavy lift, but you could make a dent in the requirements. Some form of this (perhaps limited to 3 base points per dollar) might continue, as I understand Hilton liked the extra spending on the cards.

    I've also heard that a higher Diamond status is in the works, partly to encourage LT Diamonds to also get/keep an Aspire. This would come with getting Diamond via 120k base points and another method (LT, Aspire, 60 nights, 30 stays) or via 180k base points.

  20. Jason Guest

    Whatever happened to the lifetime status tracker that Hilton promised use in 2021?!?! That is what needs to be figured out. Currently, you have to email Hilton to figure out your stats.

  21. Regis Guest

    Non-biased, factual ranking of lifetime hotel status:

    1) Hyatt Globalist (indisputably the best)
    2) Bonvoy
    3) Hilton

    1. UA-NYC Diamond

      Yeah, Hilton Diamond is unquestionably the worst top-tier status among the majors (lack of meaningful *guarantees* as we all know), and you can already get it for in essence free each year w/ a CC...why would anyone bother spending time and dollars to actually achieve it? Seems like a colossal waste.

    2. Bob Guest

      Because one day that aspire card may no longer give you diamond.

    3. Alan Guest

      The problem with Hyatt is their small footprint outwith the US. Also in some places like London their prices are just ludicrous in comparison to Hilton or IHG. Added to that no credit card earning option and they're pretty much bottom of the hotel chains for me. I also find Marriott pretty unexciting with minimal benefits until top tier so for me Hilton and IHG are much better options. Appreciate it depends where in the world you are and travel to though!

    4. UA-NYC Diamond

      Same argument for years w/Starwood...if you don't want/need thousands of LS offerings off the interstate, Hyatt works pretty well.

      Have stayed in London at the Andaz, GSY, and HR Churchill for ~250 GBP/night, quite reasonable in my view.

  22. Trip Guest

    How does one look up total Hilton nights? I have been Diamond for 15 years but have not tracked total nights. I cant find that info anywhere on the Hilton site

    1. Space Guest

      Send email to: [email protected]

      "Dear Diamond Desk,

      I would like to know what is my progress towards lifetime Diamond status as of August 1, 2022.

      HH# xxxxxxxxxx

      Thanks!"

      They will respond in a couple days with all the info you are asking for.

  23. Eskimo Guest

    I'm going to beat @DCS to the punch here a bit. But OMAAT does downplay the value of lifetime a bit.
    If it is true that Hilton ranks LT Diamond higher than Diamond, then the new pre-upgrade system would favor LT for better upgrades.
    But aside from that, most people should find Diamond sufficient, and as always Globalists a bit overrated.

    1. DCS Diamond

      Limited experience so far, but I am getting the sense that elite status recognition is much much better, with the result being that perks for lifetime members are more consistently administered.

    2. DCS Diamond

      Elite Status Recognition Is What It's About
      I was to fly out on UA to GVA from EWR in late afternoon yesterday. After an inordinately long delay at Holland Tunnel out of Manhattan caused me to miss my flight and to be rescheduled to fly out the next day, I decided to just stay at a nearby hotel instead of returning to Manhattan. Naturally, I looked for a nearby Hilton property. I found Hilton...

      Elite Status Recognition Is What It's About
      I was to fly out on UA to GVA from EWR in late afternoon yesterday. After an inordinately long delay at Holland Tunnel out of Manhattan caused me to miss my flight and to be rescheduled to fly out the next day, I decided to just stay at a nearby hotel instead of returning to Manhattan. Naturally, I looked for a nearby Hilton property. I found Hilton Newark Airport and I booked a same-day use stay for $99 before taxes, which I thought was a great deal. I texted the hotel to request a shuttle bus pick-up and within minutes one had arrived to take me to the hotel, which is located only about 1.35 miles from EWR.

      Check-in was smooth, and I was so pissed to have missed the flight that I simply wanted to get to the room, which I was told was a complimentary upgrade to a King Deluxe, and unwind. It all sounded fine until I got to my assigned room the cardkey didn't work. Then I noticed the gold-colored cardkey envelop that said "we're honored to have you as a Gold Member" and it was clear that I was checked in by someone who was clueless. That snapped me out of my "funk" for missing the flight and I decided to be more "assertive". I went back down to ask for another cardkey and, as luck would have it, I was attended to this time by a manager who immediately thanked me for my loyalty as LF Diamond, tossed away the gold-colored enveloped, and then not only did she apologize for the snafu with the cardkey that did not work, but she also offered me a complimentary appetizer and beverage at the hotel lobby bar/restaurant "to make it right". But that was not all! She looked in the computer and told me that there was an executive suite available into she'd just upgraded me for the night! She then handed me a cardkey in a black-colored envelop that said "we're honored to have you as a Lifetime Diamond Member."

      That did not in China. It happened right here in good ol' Garden State, USA!

      I could really get used to such treatment...

      G'day!

  24. DCS Diamond

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    What’s your take on Hilton Honors’ lifetime Diamond status? Are any OMAAT readers lifetime Diamond members?

    My take is that you should pontificate on matters that you are qualified to pontificate about. I am a newly-minted HH Lifetime Diamond and I can tell you that most of your claims in this fluff piece are just the usual fact-free nonsense taken to the extreme to denigrate a status that...

    badly terminated html tag fixed here...I think,

    What’s your take on Hilton Honors’ lifetime Diamond status? Are any OMAAT readers lifetime Diamond members?

    My take is that you should pontificate on matters that you are qualified to pontificate about. I am a newly-minted HH Lifetime Diamond and I can tell you that most of your claims in this fluff piece are just the usual fact-free nonsense taken to the extreme to denigrate a status that you would not be able to reach in the foreseeable future because it would require a herculean effort. Therefore, I suggest you refrain from making comments like these about a status that you know nothing about:

    Generally speaking I don’t think lifetime status is worth going out of your way for too much, given the extent to which loyalty programs are in control — they can change both the qualification requirements and benefits of status at will.

    That's truly rich coming from someone who has not been dissuaded by such considerations from going after elite status in various programs year after year ! Lifetime status is is no different. It is simply the culmination of it all, but, at least, it allows one to get off the hamster wheel forever.

    Moreover, for a status like HH Lifetime Diamond that's fairly tough to earn and to which I believe Hilton simply decided just fast-tracked a limited number of its most loyal long-time Diamond members for pampering, it will be several years before the ranks of the exclusive status swell sufficiently to begin "diluting" it. Importantly, few would be playing the mile/point game if they were concerned that the "qualification requirements and benefits of status" would change some day !

    I don’t value the concept of lifetime Hilton Honors Diamond status that much, given how easy it is to earn Hilton Honors status otherwise; I can maintain this status every year just by holding onto a fantastic credit card, so there’s nothing I’m really missing out on

    Nonsense. You can earn HH Diamond on the Aspire, but will not get you the elite recognition that HH Lifetime Diamonds get. I just got a taste of it, and it is reminiscent of how UA Global Services get treated compared to 1K. One thing will become clear very soon: HH Lifetime Diamond leaves standard WoH Globalist in the dust. Really.

    The one lifetime hotel status that gets me most excited is lifetime World of Hyatt Globalist status, both due to the general perks associated with Globalist status, and also because benefits stack for lifetime Globalist members, which is to say they receive an extra four suite upgrade awards per year, more free night certificates, etc.

    No surprise there. Elevate garden variety perks to claim a status "superior" to the competition and keep repeating the claim ad nauseam until you convince yourself of its veracity through something known as the "Paradox of Propaganda", of which Josef Goebbels is the most prominent manifestation and refers to the fact that when one sets out to brainwash others, one ends up brainwashing oneself.

    I suppose WoH Lifetime Globalist would still be "most exciting" despite not enjoying the 4th or 5th night award free - unquestionably and quantifiably the single most valuable perk in hotel loyalty? As a HH Lifetime Diamond, I get every 5th award night free and, just like my status, my points never expire...

    As a point of comparison, lifetime Marriott Bonvoy Platinum status is much easier to earn, and Marriott Platinum perks are roughly comparable to Hilton Diamond perks, in my opinion

    So what? All elite perks are roughly the same, with a few variations' here and there. What sets the lifetime status apart are not the perks per se. It is their administration, just UA GS and 1K members have the same or similar perks, but they are prioritized to favor GS members, who also get much better status recognition. The difference should be clear, especially to one who writes about just things for a living.

    In short, Ben, you do not get to develop the narrative on the HH Lifetime Diamond status that you did the HH program for years when there was no one to set you straight. I will make sure of it, beginning with the next post about something that happened just yesterday that immediately made clear to me the huge difference in elite recognition between HH Lifetime Diamond and the program's 'standard' Diamond.

    1. DCS Diamond

      This is fixed from above:
      "It is their administration, just likeUA GS and 1K members have the same or similar perks, but they are prioritized to favor GS members, who also get much better status recognition. The difference should be clear, especially to one who writes about just such things for a living.

    2. UA-NYC Diamond

      Actually, confirming up to 28 nights a year in suites in advance (with Hyatt of course) I would say is far, far more valuable than a 5th night (variably priced at that) free...who wants to stay in perfect increments of 5 nights anyways?

      Enjoy paying resort fees on cash stays and paying for parking on your vacations too...#HiltonLoyalty!!!

    3. DCS Diamond

      You mean in your dreams?

    4. UA-NYC Guest

      For someone who claims to be the authority in travel (still getting ones of readers monthly on your blog?), quite a sad retort lacking in any facts.

      Unlike the facts that Hilton Diamond is by far the weakest high tier hotel status level by far...again, not surprising as it's basically free with a CC.

    5. DCS Diamond

      Get lost. There is little that you can claim about so-called "confirmed" suite upgrades that I am not fully aware of. Embellishing how well they work, just like you swore by SNAs, is not going to make them any better -- except in your dreams.

    6. UA-NYC Diamond

      For one that is anti-Trump, you sure live in an alternate world. The Hyatt TSUs are immensely powerful - already confirmed in suites in upcoming HR/Thompson stays in Q1.

      SNAs were good (not great, but good, and typically cleared OUS) until Marriott took over and mostly ruined them, just like they did everything else about the Best Loyalty Program Ever (AKA SPG). But hey, the grass is actually pretty damn green on the Hyatt side of the fence!

    7. DCS Diamond

      All antiquated compare to Hilton's new Global Automated Upgrades that work just like airline cabin upgrades. No need to call anyone, like one must do with so-called confirmed suite upgrades. They just happen; properties cannot opt out and are taken out of the equation; and Lifetime Diamonds have highest priority.

      Not your grand father's upgrades scheme.

      Get lost.

    8. UA-NYC Diamond

      Sounds just like United's CPU system...no need to request, it's always on! Unlimited! They can't opt out! They always come through! I AM A DIAMOND GUEST!!!

      (yeah...that rarely works well...confirmable advance upgrades always are more meaningful for a reason).

    9. DCS Diamond

      Now that is something you might finally understand. Do you know who fared like gangbusters with UA's CPUs? Global Services did...just like Lifetime Diamonds will fare with Hilton's Global Automated Upgrades for which we have highest priority !!!

    10. UA-NYC Diamond

      UA GS takes $50,000 a year to have that benefit (and they still need to use PPs for int'l or TCON upgrades). Hilton Diamond takes $0 in essence with the cost/benefits. Really smart comparison by you there.

    11. DCS Diamond

      Which makes the HH Lifetime Diamond status even sweeter: the cognition of GS without paying the money, though that is not correct either as one must take into account a Lifetime Diamond's spending over the years.

  25. DCS Diamond

    What’s your take on Hilton Honors’ lifetime Diamond status? Are any OMAAT readers lifetime Diamond members?>/b>

    My take is that you should pontificate on matters that you are qualified to pontificate about. I am a newly-minted HH Lifetime Diamond and I can tell you that most of your claims in this fluff piece are just the usual fact-free nonsense taken to the extreme to denigrate a status that you would not be able to reach...

    What’s your take on Hilton Honors’ lifetime Diamond status? Are any OMAAT readers lifetime Diamond members?>/b>

    My take is that you should pontificate on matters that you are qualified to pontificate about. I am a newly-minted HH Lifetime Diamond and I can tell you that most of your claims in this fluff piece are just the usual fact-free nonsense taken to the extreme to denigrate a status that you would not be able to reach in the foreseeable future because it would require a herculean effort. Therefore, I suggest you refrain from making comments like these about a status that you know nothing about:

    Generally speaking I don’t think lifetime status is worth going out of your way for too much, given the extent to which loyalty programs are in control — they can change both the qualification requirements and benefits of status at will.

    That's truly rich coming from someone who has not been dissuaded by such considerations from going after elite status in various programs year after year ! Lifetime status is is no different. It is simply the culmination of it all, but, at least, it allows one to get off the hamster wheel forever.

    Moreover, for a status like HH Lifetime Diamond that's fairly tough to earn and to which I believe Hilton simply decided just fast-tracked a limited number of its most loyal long-time Diamond members for pampering, it will be several years before the ranks of the exclusive status swell sufficiently to begin "diluting" it. Importantly, few would be playing the mile/point game if they were concerned that the "qualification requirements and benefits of status" would change some day !

    I don’t value the concept of lifetime Hilton Honors Diamond status that much, given how easy it is to earn Hilton Honors status otherwise; I can maintain this status every year just by holding onto a fantastic credit card, so there’s nothing I’m really missing out on

    Nonsense. You can earn HH Diamond on the Aspire, but will not get you the elite recognition that HH Lifetime Diamonds get. I just got a taste of it, and it is reminiscent of how UA Global Services get treated compared to 1K. One thing will become clear very soon: HH Lifetime Diamond leaves standard WoH Globalist in the dust. Really.

    The one lifetime hotel status that gets me most excited is lifetime World of Hyatt Globalist status, both due to the general perks associated with Globalist status, and also because benefits stack for lifetime Globalist members, which is to say they receive an extra four suite upgrade awards per year, more free night certificates, etc.

    No surprise there. Elevate garden variety perks to claim a status "superior" to the competition and keep repeating the claim ad nauseam until you convince yourself of its veracity through something known as the "Paradox of Propaganda", of which Josef Goebbels is the most prominent manifestation and refers to the fact that when one sets out to brainwash others, one ends up brainwashing oneself.

    I suppose WoH Lifetime Globalist would still be "most exciting" despite not enjoying the 4th or 5th night award free - unquestionably and quantifiably the single most valuable perk in hotel loyalty? As a HH Lifetime Diamond, I get every 5th award night free and, just like my status, my points never expire...

    As a point of comparison, lifetime Marriott Bonvoy Platinum status is much easier to earn, and Marriott Platinum perks are roughly comparable to Hilton Diamond perks, in my opinion

    So what? All elite perks are roughly the same, with a few variations' here and there. What sets the lifetime status apart are not the perks per se. It is their administration, just UA GS and 1K members have the same or similar perks, but they are prioritized to favor GS members, who also get much better status recognition. The difference should be clear, especially to one who writes about just things for a living.

    In short, Ben, you do not get to develop the narrative on the HH Lifetime Diamond status that you did the HH program for years when there was no one to set you straight. I will make sure of it, beginning with the next post about something that happened just yesterday that immediately made clear to me the huge difference in elite recognition between HH Lifetime Diamond and the program's 'standard' Diamond.

  26. LEo Diamond

    Can't you just hold Aspire and don't care about lifetime status at all? Even without considering the Hilton status, Aspire card still serves positive value.

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Regis Guest

Non-biased, factual ranking of lifetime hotel status: 1) Hyatt Globalist (indisputably the best) 2) Bonvoy 3) Hilton

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LEo Diamond

Can't you just hold Aspire and don't care about lifetime status at all? Even without considering the Hilton status, Aspire card still serves positive value.

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Tone Guest

I totally agree. I’ve been diamond for 12 years. I’ve had a person at check in tell me the manager advised them not to upgrade to specific rooms too. (Reserve only for paying customers) free breakfast has moved to a 15 dollar voucher that doesn’t even cover the cost of breakfast at most of the hotels. What a shame

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