Wide Open: EgyptAir 787 Business Class Awards To/From Washington

Wide Open: EgyptAir 787 Business Class Awards To/From Washington

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Several weeks ago EgyptAir announced that the airline will be launching flights between Cairo and Washington Dulles as of June 3, 2019. The airline will operate the flight 3x weekly, with the following schedule:

MS981 Cairo to Washington Dulles departing 11:30PM arriving 5:40AM (+1 day) [Mon, Wed, Fri]
MS982 Washington Dulles to Cairo departing 12:00PM arriving 4:50AM (+1 day) [Tue, Thu, Sat]

This only represents EgyptAir’s second route to the US (after New York JFK), and third route to North America (as they also fly to Toronto). What’s most exciting about the route to me is that EgyptAir will use a 787-9 for their Washington Dulles route.

EgyptAir is just about to take delivery of their first of six 787-9s, and this will be the first longhaul route that’s scheduled to feature the plane. While EgyptAir hasn’t yet revealed pictures of their new business class, we know that they’ll offer reverse herringbone seats, which are a huge improvement over their current business class seats.

What we do know is that EgyptAir is very excited about the plane, and they’ve spent a lot of money creating accurate computer representations of what the plane will look like landing.

Anyway, while EgyptAir’s flight to Washington has now been on sale for a few weeks, up until now the airline hasn’t made any business class award seats available. That has finally changed.

EgyptAir now seems to have three business class award seats available between Cairo and Washington every single day the flight operates. This availability was loaded in the past 24 hours, so I’m quite excited about that.

As far as award pricing with some major programs, you can expect to pay the following for one-way business class between the US and North Africa:

  • Air Canada Aeroplan: 82,500 miles
  • Avianca LifeMiles: 78,000 miles
  • United MileagePlus: 85,000 miles

The great thing is that EgyptAir has a robust route network in the region, so this can be a great way to get to other points in Europe, Africa, Asia, etc.

There’s potentially even a way to get significantly lower pricing. For example, I really want to review EgyptAir’s 787 business class, and I know exactly how I’ll do so. I’m going to Greece this summer.

I could book a one-way ticket from Washington to Cairo with Aeroplan miles for 82,500 miles:

Or I could book a one-way ticket from Washington to Cairo to Athens with Aeroplan miles for 57,500 miles:

This is possible because many programs charge based on your origin and destination, even if you transit a more expensive zone.

Anyone else plan to book a business class award on EgyptAir’s 787 to/from Washington?

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  1. adam garrett Guest

    I was wondering the same thing as Bill. I have read the same thing about airlines cracking down on the practice & I also wonder about checked baggage. Is the only option a <24 hr layover like AG was sharing about for that pricing? There aren't any stopover options that would work with Cairo being in a more distant region than Greece, are there?

  2. Gantt Cookson New Member

    I see it's now back on JFK/CAI starting in Late OCT 2019!

  3. AG Member

    Flew CAI-IAD last week, and it exceeded my expectations! Seats were comfortable, service was great.

    Definitely worth 57.5k Aeroplan miles, and a fun way to get home from Greece with a 23 hour layover in CAI :)

  4. Nate Samuelson Guest

    Anyone know if you will need to pick up and recheck bags changing from Egypt Air to Aegean in Cairo?

  5. Abubakar Guest

    Hi. About to do Cairo-IAD-Cairo in 10 days on the 787. Might be able to get pics and comments for you!

  6. Gantt Cookson New Member

    Looks like JFK was on 787 now back to 777.

  7. TheBigEasyTravler Guest

    Booked IAD - ATH for 57.5k Aeroplan, peak season June. .03 per mile, wishing for more but will take it.

  8. Super VC10 Gold

    @Tiffany

    I appreciate your comments, Tiffany, and am glad you've enjoyed your time in Egypt. Being there as a tourist, however, is quite unlike working in the country. Tourists travel to an area (often the well-trod sites at Luxor, Edfu, Esna, Kom Ombo and Aswan) and soon move-on, mostly traveling in a bubble of protection provided by Egyptian security forces. Living in a small Egyptian town or village for months at a time, where one's...

    @Tiffany

    I appreciate your comments, Tiffany, and am glad you've enjoyed your time in Egypt. Being there as a tourist, however, is quite unlike working in the country. Tourists travel to an area (often the well-trod sites at Luxor, Edfu, Esna, Kom Ombo and Aswan) and soon move-on, mostly traveling in a bubble of protection provided by Egyptian security forces. Living in a small Egyptian town or village for months at a time, where one's daily routine is observed and noted, is quite a different experience...

  9. Max New Member

    Does the availability extend into Jan 2020? I’m looking for 3 one way seats CAI-IAD around 1/5. I’m based in SFO, so preferably w/o stops. It looks like only availability in January is to YYZ on the old 773 (which Aeroplan still has on that route while they display IAD, JFK on 789).

  10. bill Guest

    "This is possible because many programs charge based on your origin and destination, even if you transit a more expensive zone." Is it possible to book to Greece but jump off in Egypt? I know some airlines are getting really pissy about that.

  11. UncleSam Guest

    I have tried so many dates in July CAI-IAD however I am unable to see any availability. Is there a specific place I should be looking for the availability?

  12. Alex Member

    “Many programs charge based on your origin and destination, even if you transit a more expensive zone” - this isn’t true for AAdvantage, right? Doesn’t it just block you from transiting through more expensive zones? Sorry for the unrelated question.

    1. Tiffany OMAAT

      @ Alex -- It's not necessarily that AAdvantage blocks you from transiting more expensive zones per se, they don't allow many third-zone routings even when they are less expensive.

  13. AG Member

    To follow-up on my previous comment - it seems like only Aeroplan has access to the J award seats (at least online)?

    I can see Y award seats when searching through other Star Alliance carriers (e.g. UA, OZ, TG, SK) but no J availability shows up.

    And LifeMiles can't see any award seats in either cabin.

    Does it take some time for availability on new routes to propagate through different systems? I don't understand how...

    To follow-up on my previous comment - it seems like only Aeroplan has access to the J award seats (at least online)?

    I can see Y award seats when searching through other Star Alliance carriers (e.g. UA, OZ, TG, SK) but no J availability shows up.

    And LifeMiles can't see any award seats in either cabin.

    Does it take some time for availability on new routes to propagate through different systems? I don't understand how that would explain availability showing up for Y but not J, however.

    1. Tiffany OMAAT

      @ AG -- United.com sometimes has issues with seeing I space on EgyptAir, but it should (usually) be there if you call.

  14. Super VC10 Gold

    As an archaeologist who specialized in Egypt's 18th Dynasty, I worked on and off for several decades at a number of archaeological sites in Upper Egypt. I love that country so much! But over the past few years I've begun to feel unsafe there; partly because I'm American, but also because I'm gay. Currently I have no plans to return to Egypt, which saddens me greatly. I hope the situation improves, but I'm not very...

    As an archaeologist who specialized in Egypt's 18th Dynasty, I worked on and off for several decades at a number of archaeological sites in Upper Egypt. I love that country so much! But over the past few years I've begun to feel unsafe there; partly because I'm American, but also because I'm gay. Currently I have no plans to return to Egypt, which saddens me greatly. I hope the situation improves, but I'm not very optimistic.

    So it would take a lot more than the introduction of a 787 to tempt to fly to Cairo. (And when I *was* traveling regularly to Egypt I avoided Egyptair - with its dirty aircraft, poor food and indifferent service - whenever possible.)

    1. Tiffany OMAAT

      @ Super VC10 -- You should consider returning. I've been here for the past week or so, and there hasn't been anywhere that has felt actively unsafe; much different from a couple of years ago, though of course I'm sure our exposure is much more limited given we're here as tourists. We've also had several flights on EgyptAir, and yes the 777 we flew on was ancient, but the newer planes (including the regional jets)...

      @ Super VC10 -- You should consider returning. I've been here for the past week or so, and there hasn't been anywhere that has felt actively unsafe; much different from a couple of years ago, though of course I'm sure our exposure is much more limited given we're here as tourists. We've also had several flights on EgyptAir, and yes the 777 we flew on was ancient, but the newer planes (including the regional jets) have been tidy, and the crews have all been friendly and helpful.

  15. Th Big Easy Traveler Guest

    Can anyone confirm it the pilots (or otherwise) still smoke on this carrier?

  16. GuruJanitor Gold

    Glad to see STOL ops making a comeback.

  17. HoKo Guest

    Which other airline programs would allow us to transit north Africa on our way to Europe? Does LifeMiles allow this?

  18. Luis Diamond

    Isn't transiting through CAI the most stressful thing for the average traveler?

  19. AG Member

    Doesn't look like LifeMiles has access to this space?

  20. Steve Guest

    You can have my seat, thanks.

  21. Jkm Guest

    MS is a dry airline? And don't the cabins reek of cigarette smoke from the pilots?

  22. DCJoe Guest

    That plane handles a lot like a helicopter. Impressive!

  23. Skaner Guest

    I can't get over that video. That's a classic.

  24. Jessie Guest

    Exciting & refreshing news to me (an expat lady based in the Gulf) while QR blockade situation still feels quite painful. Often go to Cairo, will look into revenue biz ticket CAI to DC, btw it’d be great if MS places these B787 for the routes to either HKG or RUH.

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adam garrett Guest

I was wondering the same thing as Bill. I have read the same thing about airlines cracking down on the practice & I also wonder about checked baggage. Is the only option a <24 hr layover like AG was sharing about for that pricing? There aren't any stopover options that would work with Cairo being in a more distant region than Greece, are there?

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Gantt Cookson New Member

I see it's now back on JFK/CAI starting in Late OCT 2019!

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AG Member

Flew CAI-IAD last week, and it exceeded my expectations! Seats were comfortable, service was great. Definitely worth 57.5k Aeroplan miles, and a fun way to get home from Greece with a 23 hour layover in CAI :)

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