My Biggest Challenge With Qualifying For Delta Elite Status (It’s Not The Revenue Requirement)

As I switch some of my flying to Delta and complete my SkyMiles Platinum status challenge, I’m experiencing more of the differences between SkyMiles and AAdvantage firsthand. It’s not that I didn’t know these things before, but when you’re actually in a situation where you’re trying to qualify for status, you experience these things firsthand.

When it comes to the elite program, I knew there were some things I’d like less about SkyMiles than AAdvantage. For example, SkyMiles doesn’t let you redeem miles for international first class, and SkyTeam doesn’t give top tier members access to international first class lounges (unlike oneworld). But there are also other areas where they’re better than AAdvantage.

However, there’s one area that’s hitting me especially hard as I map out my possible path to Diamond for next year — let’s start with the less major implication, and then the more substantial one.

Delta awards fewer elite qualifying miles for travel

When it comes to earning elite qualifying miles, one major difference is that American awards 200% elite qualifying miles for all paid first & business class tickets, while Delta awards 150%, with the exception of full fare first & business class.

With premium cabins being more reasonably priced nowadays, I’m sometimes finding myself paying for first class when my upgrade chances aren’t good. One motivating factor is the additional elite qualifying miles I earn. 200% vs. 100% is a big difference, while 150% vs. 100% isn’t quite as compelling of a reason to spring for a paid premium cabin fare.


SkyMiles mileage earning rates for travel on Delta

For example, American Executive Platinum requires 100,000 elite qualifying miles per year, which translates to 50,000 flown miles in discounted first & business class. Meanwhile Delta Diamond Medallion requires 125,000 elite qualifying miles per year, which translates to ~83,300 flown miles in discounted first & business class.

But this is minor compared to my other “issue.”

Delta’s partner mileage earning rates are hugely inconsistent

There’s no denying that American AAdvantage is closer with some of their oneworld airline partners than others. They have joint ventures with some airlines, while there are other partner airlines that they’re even cutting any codeshare ties with, like Qatar Airways.

Nonetheless, American awards at least 150% elite qualifying miles for paid first or business class travel on all oneworld partner airlines, and also lets you earn elite qualifying dollars for travel on all oneworld partner airlines. The reason I appreciate this so much is because airlines like LATAM, Malaysia, SriLankan, etc., frequently have good value premium cabin fares, so flying them can really help towards earning status with American.


AAdvantage mileage earning rates for travel on Qatar Airways

While Delta is technically part of SkyTeam, in reality Delta’s main alliance is the “MeTeam,” which is Delta’s at-will alliance that maximizes their own good at every given point.

SkyMiles partner airlines are in four groups, depending on how much Delta likes them. The cool kids table is for their joint venture partners, which offers attractive mileage earning.

However, by the time you get down to groups three and four, you’re looking at severely reduced mileage earning. For example, the paid business class ticket I recently flew on Xiamen Air earned me just 75% elite qualifying miles, which is fewer elite qualifying miles than I would have earned for a cheap Delta economy ticket.

So in crediting miles to Delta I was looking forward to the opportunity to fly airlines like China Southern, Aerolineas Argentinas, Garuda Indonesia, Vietnam Airlines, etc., in business class, so I can experience some new and fun products. And while I can still do that, the mileage earning rates will be severely reduced.

Even more, there’s quite an opportunity cost to crediting those flights to SkyMiles, since other programs credit 150%+ miles for travel on many of those airlines.

Bottom line

I sort of knew all of this coming in, though it’s really only hitting me to this degree as I start to map out trips to earn Platinum or Diamond status for next year. Fortunately I’ll easily be able to earn Platinum thanks to how easy it is to earn MQMs through Delta’s credit cards, though it’s Diamond I’m considering. With a couple of strategic mileage runs, it shouldn’t be too tough to earn.

However, if you are considering SkyMiles, their weak partner earnings is something to consider. Qualifying for status with AAdvantage is easy, between earning 200% EQMs on discounted first & business class tickets on American, and the 150% earnings rates on all of their partners in discounted business class. Meanwhile with SkyMiles, we’re talking about 150% MQMs on discounted first & business class tickets on Delta, and in many cases just 75% earnings rates on some of their partners.

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scott Member

@Ryan. Regarding your impression of China Eastern, I am one of those crazy people who did just that. I researched far and wide what I should expect and guess what? I had the best lamb chops I have ever eaten with them in their business class from JFK to PVG, and then connection to Singapore on a Shanghai Airlines metal flight, where the flight attendants not only spoke perfect English, but actually liked their jobs and bent over backwards trying to help you. I had such a pleasant overall experience, that if I get the Delta Mileage credit that I am expecting, I will have no problem flying them again. NONE WHATSOEVER!!

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Ben Guest

@Lucky, it looks like Delta is updating their partner earning charts in Jan 2018 based on new charts that started showing up on their website this morning. From what I can tell, the changes look pretty positive. Most of the group 4 airlines have an increased MQM rate in the premium cabin (i.e. all Xiamen business fares will earn 100% MQM vs 75%) however, the class bonus for redeemable miles appears to be going away. One notable change from what I can tell is the earning rates on KLM for TATL flights on KL stock and metal will start earning MQDs based on a percentage of distance flown vs ticket price.

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john Guest

Your response to DCA's question about the need for delta status if you often purchase F & B tickets was puzzling: "I don’t pay for first & business class all the time. My goal is to be in first & business class as much as possible when it’s economically feasible, and status helps me do that. The higher my status, the less I have to pay for premium cabins, since I have better upgrade odds." Being in F or B is nice; however that begs the question why you feel the need to be in F (domestic only) or B (international) on delta. Diamond status provides greater upgrade odds domestically but again on delta which offers many cheap domestic F fares and upgrades anyway. Diamond is no help in being upgraded on cheap fares on delta partners. Diamond global upgrades allow upgrading (potentially) cheap delta fares to B class internationally only on delta. If you can use Global Upgrades on the flights you desire, then you are truly worthy your nom de plume. If you want to use them for B class on the A350, you can forget about it. CLEAR membership is a very nice Diamond perk but it can be purchased for a lot less than the $20,000 in delta tickets it takes most people to meet the MQD requirement. And even the benefits of CLEAR are declining as more people have it. It is apparent from the comments on this post how many delta flyers have been duped by the delta spin. For example, call business class DeltaOne and some will think it is first class. Stick a door on a B class seat and you've got a "suite." Many delta flyers just don't know what they are missing. I second Joe C's comment that it is a travesty that Korean Air, a delta JV partner, is a Group 4 partner for earning delta credits.

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Euroflyer77 Guest

I fly from Europe to USA on Delta and occasionally due to changes/bad weather in NYC I end up with United / AA. Seats and service/ food in Delta one is way better than on UA/AA. Diamond gets you 4 global upgrades, which I use on US to Europe overnight flights. Even on cheapest economy fares, these have cleared immediately. Booking business fares with AF/KL (and premium eco with AF) gives you lot more DL RDMs. AF and KL almost always have upgrade sales (about 275-450), much cheaper than buying business fares if one is willing to take a chance. On most trips even the big AF380 goes with full business class due to these mail / gate upgrades.

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YC Guest

It seems money is no object when you are planning a trip. I suggest you also put the corresponding fare amount for each case in your article to let readers decide whether it makes sense. If you are happily paying for the first class fare for your trip, of cause the "revenue limit" is not a major issue. I can tell you, all my friends (the deal seekers you are trying to entertain for) are considering the revenue limit is the number one barrier. It is the one effective way to destroy the loyalty of the airlines' customers. By the way, Delta allows you to carry over the MQMs you did not use to the next year. Unless you want to reach Diamond status every year, and willing to pay for it, think of the the MQM carry over benefit!

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