United Pulling Out Of JFK, Moving P.S. Flights To Newark

Update: United Airlines plans to resume JFK flights as of 2021; as of February 2021 the airline will fly to LAX and SFO, though this service has now been delayed by several weeks.

United has just announced a radical change to their p.s. transcontinental service, which is their premium product between New York’s JFK Airport and Los Angeles/San Francisco.

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As of October 25, 2015:

  • United will move their p.s. flights from New York’s Kennedy Airport to Newark Airport
  • With this, United will completely withdraw operations from JFK Airport
  • Furthermore, all flights between Newark and Los Angeles/San Francisco will be operated by p.s. configured 757-200s

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This move makes a lot of sense, as radical as pulling out of JFK Airport is. By making this move:

  • United will be offering even more frequencies, up to 15x daily between Newark and Los Angeles, and up to 17x daily between Newark and San Francisco
  • In order to operate exclusively 757-200s between Newark and Los Angeles/San Francisco, United will be reconfiguring some transatlantic 757-200s for p.s. service, and will instead replace those transatlantic routes with 767s
  • Ultimately United will be significantly improving the experience for passengers who normally fly out of Newark to the west coast, since all of these flights will be getting flat beds
  • United offers better ground services and connectivity at Newark, given that it’s their hub

United really had no reason left to operate the p.s. flights out of JFK, perhaps other than that JFK is considered “New York’s airport,” while many associate Newark with not being as convenient.

Given that United has very little connecting traffic at JFK which couldn’t be served elsewhere, this seems like it’s ultimately more convenient for passengers. If you’re leaving from Manhattan using public transportation, traveling to Newark Airport isn’t significantly more unpleasant than getting to Kennedy Airport.

And if you’re taking Uber, then the flat rates are similar to Kennedy and Newark.

I suspect this has partly been caused by transcon fares out of Kennedy being driven down substantially, due to JetBlue’s introduction of Mint Class, which has put pressure on the legacies. Meanwhile out of Newark, United has a fortress hub, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see them raise transcon fares.

What’s also interesting here is what will happen to United’s presence at Terminal 7 at Kennedy Airport, which is primarily occupied by British Airways and United. Per the press release:

With its launch of p.s. services at Newark Liberty, United will cease operations at Kennedy International Airport on Oct. 25. United has entered into two separate transactions:  Delta Air Lines plans to acquire United’s JFK slots, and United plans to acquire slots from Delta in Newark. Each transaction is subject to regulatory approval.

So Delta will pick up United’s slots at JFK, though I’ll be curious to see what happens with the gates. I could potentially see Terminal 7 being transformed into a full on oneworld terminal, given the limited gate space American has at Terminal 8. British Airways, Cathay Pacific, Iberia, Qantas, etc., already operate their flights out of there, so maybe we’ll see even more oneworld carriers over there, including Qatar Airways (given their gate dispute with American at Terminal 8).

Bottom line

This is an extremely logical move on the part of United. They seemed to operate the p.s. routes from JFK out of legacy, though given their situation, operating them out of Newark makes a lot more sense. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see transcon fares on them increase substantially as well, which is probably another motivation for the move.

What do you make of United switching p.s. flights from Kennedy to Newark?

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Sun Yung Guest

Terrible idea, another example of the Continental people ruining United...Newark is an awful airport and highly inconvenient to anyone who travels for business and does not live in NJ. I'm a 1K and its a really, really bad idea.

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Garth Ancier Guest

Sitting in the UA lounge as we speak for probably my last cross country flight on United. As someone who lives in NY and LA, and grew up in NJ, I know far too well that Newark Airport to Manhattan (and vice versa) is a nightmare. I'd consider it only if they dropped the Business Class fare substantially to incentivize me to navigate to Newark via NJ Transit, to Penn Station, etc. This seems like a classic bamboozle between the Port Authority of NY & NJ and United management...all of whom have now been fired or resigned once this plan became public.

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J. Nathan Higdon Guest

United will be doing a reconfiguration of the domestic (Hawaii) 777-200s with lie-flat business, which will be supplementing the P.S. routes, so ultimately it may not be a drop in seat, as some mentioned.

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Stuart Guest

As an upper east-side Manhattanite, Newark is just not chic. The Newark Airport Express busses from Grand Central (area) are often bedbug-infested nightmares. NJT does not run late night. When they do, it's mobbed with absolutely no room to sit, let alone stow valises. The only decent way to get to Newark is to either hire a car and driver $$$$, or to be born there. Then again, you want ME to take my Goyard luggage into UGH Jamaica and deal with those savages on the LIRR platforms? Are you mad? Or do you have a death wish? For what that's worth, you might train through the Congo. What happened to those DIVINE helicopters from the Pan Am Building roof??

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Evan Morikawa Guest

Damn. There are many timeframes when NJ Transit only comes once an hour out of Newark while JFK trains leave every 10 min. The feeling of just getting off of an SFO -> EWR redeye and miss NJT by a minute then waiting on that damn seatless platform for an hour really blows. It sounds like frequent NYC travelers will be forced to face that scenario more.

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