The Most Practical Way Airlines Could Avoid The Electronics Ban

As I’m sure just about everyone knows by now, the US has implemented an electronics ban for passengers traveling nonstop to the U.S. from Amman, Abu Dhabi, Cairo, Casablanca, Dubai, Doha, Istanbul, Jeddah, Kuwait City, and Riyadh.

The questionable logic behind the ban

While I don’t question that they’re likely working off of a very credible threat, and while I think it’s important to keep passengers safe, I have a lot of questions about the implementation:

  • The UK has instituted a similar ban and presumably they’re sharing intelligence, so why did the US put the UAE and Qatar on the list, when the UK didn’t?
  • More specifically, there’s a US Pre-Clearance facility in Abu Dhabi with an additional and thorough security screening checkpoint, so why aren’t those flights excluded, because the security is unarguably tighter than if you’re traveling through many European airports?
  • Only direct flights from the above countries are included in the ban, so Emirates’ flights from Dubai to Milan to New York, and Dubai to Athens to Newark, are excluded. Does that really make sense?

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What I think impacted airlines should do

Maybe I’m in the minority, but as long as I can avoid it, I’m absolutely not booking any travel on airlines impacted by this ban going forward. I feel horribly for the airlines because this ban is really going to hit their bottom lines, but I’m just not going to voluntarily check electronics.

I say that both in terms of the lost productivity, as well as the potential risk of the electronics being stolen or damaged. While I imagine the Gulf carriers won’t suffer too much among low yield leisure travelers, I have to imagine that a lot of business travelers will be avoiding them going forward.

So while it’s not ideal, I think there is a solution that’s a better option than just requiring these electronics to be checked. Carriers should plan “security stops” in Europe to split up the journey. I’ve done this twice in the past year.

For example, last year I flew Pakistan Airlines from Manchester to New York. Their flights from Pakistan to New York stop in Manchester primarily so passengers can be screened, since nonstop flights from Pakistan to the U.S. aren’t allowed for security reasons.

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Similarly, just last week I flew Kuwait Airways from Kuwait to New York, and the flight makes a stop in Shannon. They don’t pick up or let off passengers, but rather everyone just goes through security and then gets back on the plane.

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Now, the challenge of course is going to be finding an airport that can accommodate so many passengers. I imagine there are airports in Europe that could handle a few extra A380s a day for the purpose of screening passengers. However, I doubt there’s a single airport that can suddenly accommodate dozens of additional widebody flights a day.

Obviously they’d want to pick a secondary airport, given the lower fees and lower chances of congestion.

While this would cause the flight time to be increased by a couple of hours, there are advantages to this for the carriers:

  • Their fuel burn will be lower, given that they’ll only need eight hours of fuel at a time (give or take), rather than 16; the incremental fuel burn just from carrying additional fuel can be significant
  • Because of that, they’ll in many cases be able to carry more cargo in place of fuel, which could be valuable, especially since these ultra longhaul flights are often weight restricted in some form

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So financially it could work out for the carriers, and ultimately I can say without a doubt that I’d rather have travel time be two hours longer than to check my electronics in the cargo hold.

Really this just underscores how silly the implementation here is. If you go through security at Abu Dhabi Airport, and then again at the US Pre-Clearance facility (which is super thorough) before boarding, you can’t take on your electronics. Meanwhile if you go through security in Dubai and then get screened again in Milan, you can.

What do you guys think — would you rather be on a flight where electronics are banned, or have a forced security stop for a couple of hours?

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Inder Guest

DAFT IDEA.PERIOD!!! Fuel is dirt cheap in the Gulf and cheaper than water. Ultra ling hauls from the Gulf make most financial sense than from anywhere else in the world. European stops will mean additional costs associated with expensive european jet fuel, landing and parking fees, crew changeover expenses. Airplanes and flights from the Gulf to distant destinations are most economical. Kuwait Aurways and PIA stop at european cities enroute to the US for security screenings enforced by the US. Not that KU and PK asked for it. Both countries have a large virulently anti western population that the US is scared of. No denying it. The onus is on the Gulf carriers like EK and TK to be proactive and innovative in carrying electronic goods in a safe and secure manner in the cargo hold. Will they be watching the carho 24/7 . Not a moment when their eye is off the ware. These are hard questions to which airlines need to provide quick answers. EK, TK QR and Etihad will probably do a good job. Not sure about Saudia, KU and the other carriers, knowing how sloppy they are. Best to send Trump and fellow despots from the Middle East to Siberia where Putin plays host. Freeze your BUTT

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JJJJ Guest

Tijuana airport has a direct bridge into the US. Carriers like Emirates serving SoCal should look into providing Tijuana service.

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AlexS Diamond

@Ronen: Not sure how old you are, but placing bombs in the cargo hold of the aircraft used to be the "traditional" way of blowing up aircraft, if not preferred for reasons I'm not going to get into in a public forum. With this new policy, we're flat-out encouraging it. Trust me, it would take someone no more than 10 minutes to convert a laptop into a timed and/or remote controlled bomb... No hands needed, and undetectable with current (and future) screening methods. Terrorism may be scary to some, but it's not a credible threat, as in you're very, very, very unlikely to ever be affected directly by it in the West. Case in point: On Sept 11, 2001, 99%+ of people flying that day weren't on the 4 doomed flights. If you really want to go to someplace scary, go to your doctor or hospital. According to Johns Hopkins (well-known US hospital group), doctors are the #3 leading cause of death, responsible for 10% of deaths in the USA...and this is a hospital group saying this. (http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/study_suggests_medical_errors_now_third_leading_cause_of_death_in_the_us) There may be a credible threat out there, but the US/UK reaction feels ham-fisted, as they clearly haven't thought about the ramifications to travelers NOR terrorists.

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waqar New Member

you should check out PIA on twitter and Instagram! they are having a field day over this ban LOL.

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Andrew Guest

My biggest concern when I heard about the electronics ban was something else entirely. It was recently explained to me on my Air Canada Express flight that I shouldn't check my laptop even though it was off because any problems in the battery could potentially cause a small fire, even if the device is off. A small fire in the cabin can be easily put out with a fire extinguisher but a small fire in the hold can quickly become catastrophic. A trade off of safety in the name of security isn't one I want to make.

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