The Most Screwed Up Thing I’ve Ever Heard An Airline Employee Say

Yesterday Travis wrote about how a family was kicked off a Delta flight from Maui to Los Angeles. Long story short, Delta was technically correct, but the family was confused about Delta’s policy. Airline rules are pretty complicated, and they made an honest mistake. Delta issued an apology for how they handled the situation, which was the right thing to do.

While it was mentioned briefly, I think there’s one thing we really need to draw attention to, because it’s beyond screwed up.

Delta called the police on the family because they refused to get off the plane. If we are to believe United’s latest customer service commitment, they wouldn’t have called the cops in this situation, since it wasn’t a matter of safety or security. So it seems like Delta is being less customer friendly than United here.

Delta’s use of law enforcement is hardly surprising, and isn’t what I’m drawing attention to in this post. What’s screwed up is that after the cops arrive, the flight attendant tells the family the following when the father says that the police can remove him off the plane, if I’m understanding it correctly:

“Then it’s going to be a federal offense, and you and your wife will be in jail, and your kids will be put in a foster care.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3RcvNvLLCk

First of all, if you’re going to call the police on your customers, let them handle it. Second of all, what kind of a horrible human being makes such a threat? The passengers were genuinely confused and clearly meant no harm. And my gosh, that guy had a very calm response after the threat the flight attendant made.

I know we’re talking about a small minority of bad apples here, but when will flight attendants learn that they’re not law enforcement officers? They can’t send people to jail. And in a situation like this, there’s no way in hell people would be sent to jail. Passengers might be removed from the plane, but they won’t be going to jail after for simple confusion over the contract of carriage.

Maybe I’m being harsh, but I think this is simply inexcusable. I don’t think someone should be in a customer service role if their go to response is to falsely threaten customers by saying that their kids will be going to foster care if they don’t get off the plane. Even if it’s the flight attendant’s first offense, I hope she’s fired.

Even more puzzling is that this comes just shortly after the Dr. Dao dragging incident. You’d think flight attendants would be extra careful about what they say, knowing full well that it’s probably being videotaped from multiple angles. But that doesn’t stop her. This is worse than anything that was said during the Dr. Dao incident.

The sad thing is that this isn’t the first time that we’ve seen video of such a threat. But for some reason it’s always on US airlines that these threats are made.

Dear airlines: maybe it’s time you remind your employees that they don’t have the authority to send people to jail, and that threatening to send someone to jail isn’t good customer service?

Just last week Delta published a video smearing the Gulf carriers, talking about how every US aviation job is at risk, and about how our military won’t be able to go to war if we don’t stop Emirates, Etihad, and Qatar, from flying to the US. They wanted us to campaign for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwJ6I4qpTAI

As of the time of this post, here’s how many likes and dislikes that video has:

Delta-Video

The comments are scathing. People don’t like the “big three” US carriers. There’s a reason for it. Maybe Delta’s “Our Future, Our Fight” campaign should be based around focusing on taking care of their customers/not threatening to send customers to jail and foster care, rather than trying to get us to campaign for them over airlines that actually make us feel appreciated.

/rant over

Am I being too harsh here, or is there any excuse for a flight attendant threatening to send passengers to jail and foster care?

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Mike Guest

Refusing to leave the aircraft when directed to do so is considered interfering with a flight crew, a felony under federal law. The flight attendant has an obligation to inform this family before they are arrested. So much for all the know it alls who want to tell others how to do their jobs

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Tachyon_OGG-SBA-IAD Guest

@Ken IRROPS is "Irregular Operations". That's what kicks in during ATC delays, cancellations, thunderstorms, etc wherein airlines can run't a normal schedule. Usually it means LOTS of displaced passengers. In "the old days" with load factors in the 60s, there were lots of spare seats to "re-accommodate" passengers into. Now, however, it costs the airlines :"real money" to buy seats on other airlines, find alternate arrangements, etc. So, generally, they don't do it and pretend like it's OK for passengers to be stranded for days in their hubs waiting for alternate flights. This is NOT an exaggeration, as Delta had 4000 flights cancel in that debacle last month. That's hundreds of thousands of passengers, many of whom had to wait for days for alternatives. I have no explanation for Delta's don't give a flip attitude then-- they didn't even show up (again) for the Congressional hearings the other day. At least the others pretended like they cared and came to be browbeaten.

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Ken Guest

@Tachyon, I definitely agree it's political, and I agree we need an Airline Passengers Bill of Rights. The Obama Justice Department let us down on mergers, but so did the Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Reagan administrations. And please note that Obama did not receive any money from Delta: Here is Delta's contribution record going back into the 1990s: http://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Delta+air+lines&order=desc&sort=D. The only candidate supported by Delta or Delta PAC in 2016 was Steve Scalise (R-LA). No contributions in 2008 or 2012 at all. In 2002 and earlier, Delta gave to both parties. Also according to Open Secrets (http://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Wells+Fargo&order=desc&sort=D), Wells Fargo made no contributions to Obama or Trump, though $500 grand to the Democratic convention host committee last year. BTW, what does IRROPS stand for?

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Tachyon_OGG-SBA-IAD Guest

@Ken I'm not sure how 'in the weeds' it is to talk about the mergers. I fly a lot (as you can tell from my handle, I pretty evenly split my time between Maui, SoCal and DC) and have for decades. There is absolutely no comparison between how one got treated in IRROPS or over-booking or ATC situations 20 years ago versus today. I'm 1K on UA and ExP on AA, yet will regularly hear "oh we can't get you there for four days"-- even when Virgin or Alaska or JetBlue has plenty of inventory for sale.... The mergers have allowed the Big 4 to toss customer service out the window, along with common sense. The product on the majors is much worse today (I just came back from London on a new-ish UAL 787 in Economy Plus-- the seats are tighter, the food worse, the FAs surlier-- so it's MUCH worse than Regular Coach was in 1995. MUCH MUCH worse. The only plus is the entertainment selection, all else is a minus.) So, yeah, ultimately I think politics do factor in. By now it's clear that "market forces" won't bring an improvement-- not with the collusion among the Big 4-- and after awhile there will be wear-out factor with the cameraphone-videos ("Oh, another passenger being dragged and beaten? That's so 2017!"). What else can bring pressure to bear on these airlines??? So, ultimately I think it will take a political solution-- aka 'an Airline Passengers Bill of Rights" like the EU has. That works and it's probably what we need. Obama-Holder-Lynch couldn't be bothered.... The new guy actually mentioned 'breaking up the big banks, finally' the other day, so maybe he can get something done on it? At least he didn't get elected with campaign contributions from Wells Fargo and Delta Airlines. Who knows? I just think it's unsustainable like it is. Misery in rolled aluminum, millions of times a day.

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Bob Guest

I think it's time to call out these individuals that act out and pleasure themselves with their bullying. What are the names of these attendants using Gestapo techniques on paying passengers? Once identified, it will be quite difficult for these cretins to find future employment.

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