Leaked Marriott Program Terms Have Some Surprises

Marriott’s new loyalty program launches August 18, 2018. In many ways the implementation of this program feels very rushed, as the program is now less than a week from being introduced, and there are some questions we still don’t have answers to.

Marriott still hasn’t officially published the terms & conditions for the new program, though FlyerTalk member phltraveler found a link to the terms. These are very interesting, and in some ways surprising.

Let me start by noting that since these terms have’t officially been published yet, it’s possible that these aren’t accurate. It could be that they’re an earlier version of the terms, and that there are still updates they’re going to make. Nonetheless there’s some potentially interesting stuff in here. For example:

Are Platinum suite upgrades actually guaranteed?

Up until now I’ve always been told that Marriott plans to adopt the Starwood way of providing suite upgrades. That’s to say that Platinum members are entitled to suite upgrades subject to availability. In other words, as long as a suite is available, a Platinum member is entitled to it, and it’s not at the hotel’s discretion to deny that.

However, the terms state the following:

Complimentary Enhanced Room Upgrade for Platinum Elite Members.  Based on room availability at check-in and limited to a Member’s personal guest room at no additional charge.  Enhanced rooms may include rooms with desirable views, rooms on high floors, corner rooms, rooms with special amenities, rooms on Executive Floors, or suites.

This reads very differently than Starwood’s old terms. It gives the hotel the discretion to upgrade Platinum members to suites if they want to, but it doesn’t guarantee it. This reads more like the old language from Marriott and Hilton, rather than the language from Hyatt and Starwood.


Are Marriott suite upgrades not actually a benefit

Ritz-Carlton suite upgrades are limited to Platinum Premier members

In theory Marriott Platinum members and above are entitled to space available suite upgrades, though it looks like the Ritz-Carlton brand has added further limitations (which is hardly surprising, given how stingy Marriott is with this stuff). According to the terms:

At The Ritz-Carlton, suites are only included for Platinum Premier Members and rooms with direct Club access are excluded.

So it’s interesting that suite upgrades are only available at Ritz-Carlton properties to Platinum Premier members and not to Platinum members.


Ritz-Carlton suite upgrades will be limited to Platinum Premier members

Can we not redeem at Starwood’s top properties after all?

We’ve been repeatedly told that all Marriott and Starwood properties will fall under the new award chart. This is different than Starwood’s old program, where some properties were designated as not having standard rooms, and therefore all the pricing would be double as high.

While we’ve been told that practice won’t continue, it looks like it might. Here are the new terms:

Free Night Awards at the following locations require a higher amount of Points either because the Participating Property does not have standard rooms or the standard rooms it offers have a mandatory full board requirement in peak seasons: Vana Belle, a Luxury Collection Resort, Koh Samui, Thailand; The Naka Island, a Luxury Collection Resort & Spa, Phuket, Thailand; Sheraton Steamboat Resort Villas, Steamboat Springs, Colorado; The Westin Golf Resort & Spa, Playa Conchal, Costa Rica; The St. Regis Bora Bora and the Le Méridien Bora Bora, Bora Bora, French Polynesia; Mystique, a Luxury Collection Resort, Santorini, Santorini, Greece; The St. Regis Bali Resort, Nusa Dua, Indonesia; Hotel Cala di Volpe, Hotel Pitrizza, and Hotel Romazzino, Costa Smeralda, Italy; W Maldives, North Ari Atoll, Maldives; W Koh Samui, Surat Thani, Thailand; Al Maha, a Luxury Collection Desert Resort & Spa, Dubai, U.A.E.; St. Regis Residence Club, Aspen, Aspen, CO; and Phoenician Residences, a Luxury Collection Residence Club, Scottsdale, AZ.

I’m quite suspicious of all of this, especially since the W Maldives is on the list but not the St. Regis Maldives, for example.


Will Al Maha not actually be bookable for 60,000 points per night?

Bottom line

These leaked terms are interesting to read, though personally I wouldn’t panic too much just yet. After all, these aren’t officially published, so it’s possible that this was an earlier version of their working terms, and they just haven’t updated them yet.

While I’ll reach out for comment, I suspect Marriott won’t officially comment on anything, since we’re going on leaked terms here.

Anyone notice anything else interesting in the new leaked terms?

(Tip of the hat to Frequent Miler)

Conversations (63)
The comments on this page have not been provided, reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any advertiser, and it is not an advertiser's responsibility to ensure posts and/or questions are answered.
Comment as a member

Membership is free and takes no more information than commenting as a guest. Earn status points for good contributions, and see fewer ads as your status grows.

Type your response here.

If you'd like to participate in the discussion, please adhere to our commenting guidelines. Anyone can comment, and your email address will not be published. Register to save your unique username and earn special OMAAT reputation perks!

  1. Loading comments…
Recent Comments
The latest from the OMAAT community.

The comments on this page have not been provided, reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any advertiser, and it is not an advertiser's responsibility to ensure posts and/or questions are answered.

DCS Diamond

@Willing -- You are barking up the wrong tree, then. I am not the one making all the bogus claim, and I am with you that it should largely be YMMV. I clear better than 90% of my suite upgrades as a HH Diamond, and, yet, folks who clear significantly fewer upgrades either as SPG plats or WoH globalists have the gall to call my HH status and the program "weak." THEY should give it a rest. Facts aren't with them, so they are constantly compelled to make things up. G'day!

0
‼ 0
Willing Guest

OMG, @DCS is just too much. Give it a rest! WoH has consistently provided free best room upgrades to me as a Globalist and more often than not, to a standard suite, pretty much across the board. SPG, on the other hand, did that less than 50% of time to me as Platinum under the old system. I would always go out of my way to stay at a Hyatt and am thrilled that SLH is joining their program.

0
‼ 0
Enel Guest

I will miss SEG a lot. As a PLT I always had more than 50% suite upgrades. My biz trips were all around Asia and I very often had suite upgrades at LM, Westin And sheraton. Even at some FP that had suites. RIP SPG.

0
‼ 0
ROn Mexico Guest

Have mergers “ever” provided more value to the consumer? There’s your answer. Who he all you want.

0
‼ 0
Michael M Member

Lucky, like you I was hoping that Marriott would be generous with unattached certificates. Now it looks like that won't be happening. Likewise, it is beginning to appear that aspirational properties won't have standard rooms available (or they will be very few and far between for purposes of redemption). Redeeming my 5 unattached 7-night certificates for 225K Rewards points now and having enough miles from that for a one-way first class flight on JL sounds a lot better than the possibility of being stuck with 5 weeks of free stays at Fairfield Inns.

0
‼ 0

Save posts to read later

Saving posts is a member feature. Become an OMAAT member to build a reading list you can come back to from any device.

Become a member
Meet Ben Schlappig, OMAAT Founder
5,883,136 Miles Traveled

43,914,800 Words Written

47,187 Posts Published