World Of Hyatt Delays Peak Award Pricing (Again)

World Of Hyatt Delays Peak Award Pricing (Again)

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World of Hyatt was supposed to introduce peak and off-peak award pricing as of March 2020. That ended up being postponed until July 2021 due to the pandemic, given that demand for travel basically fell off a cliff.

There’s some further good news — it has now been announced that World of Hyatt is delaying the introduction of peak award pricing even further. World of Hyatt peak award pricing will now kick in for bookings as of mid-October 2021, and for stays as of March 2022. I’d say that’s fantastic news.

To recap, below are all the details of what we can expect from this new award pricing from World of Hyatt.

Hyatt Introducing Peak & Off-Peak Awards

World of Hyatt will be introducing peak and off-peak award pricing for bookings as of mid-October 2021, and stays as of March 2022. Under this structure there will be three points redemption values:

  • Off-peak: Fewer points will be required during off-peak times, starting at 3,500 points per night
  • Standard: Points required during standard redemption periods will follow today’s points requirement rates, starting at 5,000 points per night
  • Peak: When hotels are the busiest, more points will be required for a free night, starting at 6,500 points per night

Award redemption rates are going up during peak periods

Hyatt’s Peak & Off-Peak Award Charts

With these changes, we’re seeing peak and off-peak redemption rates introduced for free night redemptions for standard rooms, club rooms, standard suites, premium suites, and Points + Cash. On top of that, this variable pricing will also be introduced for all-inclusive properties, including Miraval.

The only types of awards that won’t see peak & off-peak pricing are room upgrades, to either club rooms or suites.

Let’s take a look at the new award charts:

New Redemption Rates For Standard Rooms

For standard room free night redemptions, we’re seeing a minimum difference of 1,500 points and a maximum difference of 5,000 points for peak and off-peak redemptions compared to standard rates:

World of Hyatt Category
Off-Peak
Standard
Peak
Category 1
3,500
5,000
6,500
Category 2
6,500
8,000
9,500
Category 3
9,000
12,000
15,000
Category 4
12,000
15,000
18,000
Category 5
17,000
20,000
23,000
Category 6
21,000
25,000
29,000
Category 7
25,000
30,000
35,000
Category 8
35,000
40,000
45,000
World of Hyatt New Peak & Off-Peak Pricing

New Redemption Rates For Club Rooms

For club room free night redemptions, we’re seeing a minimum difference of 1,500 points and a maximum difference of 5,000 points for peak and off-peak redemptions compared to standard rates:

Category
Off-Peak
Standard
Peak
Category 1
5,500
7,000
8,500
Category 2
10,500
12,000
13,500
Category 3
14,000
17,000
20,000
Category 4
18,000
21,000
24,000
Category 5
24,000
27,000
30,000
Category 6
29,000
33,000
37,000
Category 7
34,000
39,000
44,000
Category 8
45,000
50,000
55,000
World of Hyatt Redemption Rates for Club Rooms

New Redemption Rates For Standard Suites

For standard suite free night redemptions, we’re seeing a minimum difference of 1,500 points and a maximum difference of 5,000 points for peak and off-peak redemptions compared to standard rates:

Category
Off-Peak
Standard
Peak
Category 1
6,500
8,000
9,500
Category 2
11,500
13,000
14,500
Category 3
17,000
20,000
23,000
Category 4
21,000
24,000
27,000
Category 5
29,000
32,000
35,000
Category 6
36,000
40,000
44,000
Category 7
43,000
48,000
53,000
Category 8
56,000
61,000
66,000
World of Hyatt Redemption Rates for Standard Suites

New Redemption Rates For Premium Suites

For premium suite free night redemptions, we’re seeing a minimum difference of 3,000 points and a maximum difference of 10,000 points for peak and off-peak redemptions compared to standard rates:

Category
Off-Peak
Standard
Peak
Category 1
7,000
10,000
13,000
Category 2
13,000
16,000
19,000
Category 3
18,000
24,000
30,000
Category 4
24,000
30,000
36,000
Category 5
34,000
40,000
46,000
Category 6
42,000
50,000
58,000
Category 7
50,000
60,000
70,000
Category 8
70,000
80,000
90,000
World of Hyatt Redemption Rates for Premium Suites

New Redemption Rates For All-Inclusive Properties

For standard rooms at all-inclusive properties, we’re seeing a minimum difference of 3,000 points and a maximum difference of 4,000 points for peak and off-peak redemptions compared to standard rates, plus a difference of 1,500-2,000 points for an extra guest:

Category
Off-Peak
Standard
Peak
Category 1
17,000
20,000
23,000
Extra person
8,500
10,000
11,500
Category 2
21,000
25,000
29,000
Extra Person
10,500
12,500
14,500
World of Hyatt Redemption Rates for All-Inclusive Properties

Meanwhile for standard suites at all-inclusive properties, we’re seeing a difference of 5,000 points for peak and off-peak redemptions compared to standard rates, plus a difference of 1,500-2,000 points for an extra guest:

Category
Off-Peak
Standard
Peak
Category 1
27,000
32,000
37,000
Extra Person
8,500
10,000
11,500
Category 2
35,000
40,000
45,000
Extra Person
10,500
12,500
14,500
World of Hyatt Redemption Rates for Suites at All-Inclusive Properties

New Redemption Rates For Miraval

For Miraval properties, we’re seeing a difference of 5,000-10,000 points for peak and off-peak redemptions compared to standard rates, plus a difference of 2,000-2,500 points for an extra guest:

Category
Off-Peak
Standard
Peak
Standard Room
40,000
45,000
50,000
Extra Person
17,500
20,000
22,000
Standard Suite
65,000
75,000
85,000
Extra Person
17,500
20,000
22,000
Premium Suite
95,000
105,000
115,000
Extra Person
17,500
20,000
22,000
World of Hyatt Redemption Rates for Miraval Properties

How Will Hyatt Peak & Off-Peak Dates Be Regulated?

Hyatt tells me:

  • Free night redemption rates will be identified as peak, standard, or off-peak as soon as nights are available for reservations (about 13 months in advance), and they won’t change once posted (unlike Marriott, where it’s dynamic)
  • The decision for peak and off-peak pricing is based on the geographic market, meaning that all properties within the same market will adhere to the same calendar
  • There is no minimum or maximum number of nights that a property can designate as peak or off-peak
  • The majority of days will be set to standard redemption rates each year
  • Hyatt will be introducing a calendar where members can look at award rates over a longer period of time, which is at least one positive to come from this

Hyatt isn’t doing much to regulate peak and off-peak dates

What Happens To Existing Hyatt Reservations?

If a World of Hyatt member has an existing award booking for a night that changes to off-peak once the change kicks in, they will receive an automatic refund of the points difference. Meanwhile members won’t be charged extra if their existing award booking changes to peak.

If you change an award after the system goes into effect, you’ll be charged at the new award rates.

What Happens To Free Night Certificates?

Currently Hyatt issues category-specific free night certificates, some of which are valid at 1-4, 1-7, etc. These will continue to be valid at those categories, even in peak season.

Why Is Hyatt Making These Changes?

In case anyone is wondering what’s in it for World of Hyatt to switch to peak and off-peak pricing, this all comes down to the economics of hotel loyalty programs.

While Hyatt manages its portfolio of hotels, it doesn’t actually own a vast majority of them, but rather hotels have individual owners with individual profit goals.

When you redeem points at a Hyatt property, the amount that the hotel is reimbursed by the loyalty program can vary greatly:

  • If the hotel is full (or nearly full) and you’re potentially displacing a “paid” guest, World of Hyatt compensates the hotel right around the average daily rate
  • If the hotel isn’t full (and therefore you’re just occupying a room that would have otherwise been empty), World of Hyatt reimburses the hotel at a much lower cost, just a bit above the marginal cost

While peak and off-peak pricing will probably loosely reflect the seasonality of hotels, I expect it to largely reflect Hyatt’s redemption costs, which are much more about occupancy levels than rates at a given hotel.

Hyatt’s redemption rates are way higher when a hotel is full

My Take On World Of Hyatt Changes

It goes without saying that Hyatt’s introduction of peak and off-peak pricing will be bad news for most members. Those maximizing their hotel points are often redeeming in peak season, since that’s when you get the most value.

While this is unarguably a negative development, dare I say that I think things could have been worse? I redeem for standard room free night awards most often, and those are going up by 5,000 points per night at most.

That’s not great, though I also feel like things could have been worse. I’ll certainly still get value from World of Hyatt, especially as a Globalist member.

I think my bigger issue is that Hyatt isn’t regulating how many nights can be peak and off-peak. Obviously I’m concerned that some hotels will just have peak dates for half the year, standard rates the other half of the year, and no off-peak dates.

But we’ll have to wait and see how it’s implemented. I find that most Hyatt hotels act in good faith, so I don’t think that will happen, but you never know…

World of Hyatt is still a great program, in my opinion

Earning Hyatt Points Is Still Easy

One of the reasons that I find World of Hyatt to be so valuable is because of how easy the points are to come by.

First of all there are lots of credit cards that potentially earn Hyatt points. In addition to being able to earn World of Hyatt points with the World of Hyatt Credit Card (review), you can also transfer over points from Chase Ultimate Rewards. Being able to efficiently transfer credit card points to Hyatt makes a world of difference.

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On top of that, Hyatt often has bonuses or discounts on purchased points.

Bottom Line

World of Hyatt has delayed the new peak award pricing system significantly. It now kicks in for bookings as of mid-October 2021, and for stays as of March 2022. It’s nice to see this delayed further, given that these changes will objectively be bad news for most members — the most popular redemption periods will go up in price, while we’ll see the cost of some (less popular) redemptions go down.

Ultimately I feel like these changes could have been worse, and a maximum increase of 5,000 points per night for a standard room isn’t too bad.

Are you happy to see World of Hyatt delaying peak award pricing?

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  1. Ed

    It is good news to hear that Hyatt is postponing the devaluation. Hopefully I will be able to book summer 2022 by mid-October.

  2. TProphet

    Why not just call this what it is, a devaluation? We know that essentially every property will define 365 days a year as "peak" (or maybe, if required, designate a single Tuesday in January as off-peak). The new "peak" chart *is* the chart and this eliminates one of the last remaining Chase Ultimate Rewards sweet spots.

    1. UA-NYC

      Believe Hyatt has already said that minimum of 1/2 the dates will be Standard

  3. Jetiquette

    Why are people complaining? Hyatt still offers the best redemption rates from transferrable currencies. I would much rather my Ultimate Rewards earn me 3-5 nights at a Hyatt than 1-2 at a Marriott or Hilton.

  4. khatl

    has there been any indication from Hyatt as to when the peak, standard and off-peak dates will be?

  5. Tokala

    It can be easy to earn Hyatt points...if you catch a double points or bonus points promo. Otherwise, you're stuck earning at half the rate compared to other programs. I've been a Hyatt loyalist when I have a choice, but this peak award pricing is all I need to turn away from them. It's not the only reason, some of the events I go to have dropped Hyatt hotels for other brands. But this was...

    It can be easy to earn Hyatt points...if you catch a double points or bonus points promo. Otherwise, you're stuck earning at half the rate compared to other programs. I've been a Hyatt loyalist when I have a choice, but this peak award pricing is all I need to turn away from them. It's not the only reason, some of the events I go to have dropped Hyatt hotels for other brands. But this was the final nail in the coffin. I'm spending all of my points and award nights. Was nice while it lasted.

  6. Ed

    Loyalty only makes sense these days for actual frequent travelers who can accumulate points and status organically, and people on the internet peddling credit cards to everyone else.

    This industry is getting hammered, and the loyalty programs are getting worse. Something doesn't line up. Better these days to pay for what you want with whatever brand offers it.

  7. David

    @AJK
    “–There is no minimum or maximum number of nights that a property can designate as peak or off-peak
    –The majority of days will be set to standard redemption rates each year”

    I see no contradictions there.

    According to your line of reasoning, "There is no minimum or maximum number of nights that a property can designate as peak or off-peak" would itself be "contradictory", since the maximum number of nights that a...

    @AJK
    “–There is no minimum or maximum number of nights that a property can designate as peak or off-peak
    –The majority of days will be set to standard redemption rates each year”

    I see no contradictions there.

    According to your line of reasoning, "There is no minimum or maximum number of nights that a property can designate as peak or off-peak" would itself be "contradictory", since the maximum number of nights that a property can designate as peak or off-peak in a year is 365 days, which would be an absurd reading of the rules.

  8. Quo Vadis?

    Good to know that Cat 1-4 certificates will still be valid at Cat 4 properties during peak rates.

    Like Mar Monte Hotel, however, if Hyatt wants to play keep-away, they can bump more hotels from Cat 4 to Cat 5.

  9. Dwayne McGrain

    Of course it sucks but come on, can you really blame them, especially after COVID? It could have been a lot worse imo. Sorry to say but too many cry babies out here.
    I do look forward to the peak pricing calendar though so I can plan my future trips accordingly.

  10. Evan

    "Hyatt will be introducing a calendar where members can look at award rates over a longer period of time"

    This sounds interesting, hopefully it will also show availability over longer periods.

  11. Ed

    Will we get a chance to see the new rates in June 2021 before they go into effect or will we just be surprised one day sometime in July 2021?

  12. John

    This will actually work to slightly increase the value of the free night awards.

    Right now, a 1-4 cert is worth *less* than 15.000 points. Just to drive home that point: If I prefer three nights at a cat 1 property over one night at a cat 4 property, I can do that with 15k points. It's impossible to do that with a 1-4 cert. People value choices. With a cert you have fewer choices...

    This will actually work to slightly increase the value of the free night awards.

    Right now, a 1-4 cert is worth *less* than 15.000 points. Just to drive home that point: If I prefer three nights at a cat 1 property over one night at a cat 4 property, I can do that with 15k points. It's impossible to do that with a 1-4 cert. People value choices. With a cert you have fewer choices than with a points balance equal to the highest points value the cert can be redeemed for.

    But come July, it will be possible to redeem for a night that would go for 18k points. So in theory, it's possible the 1-4 cert is worth more than 15k points. The exact value of the cert depends on your preference as well as on the peak/normal/off-peak availabilities Hyatt opens up, but it's fair to say this somewhat increases the value of certs....

    Sorry for somewhat abstract post. I'm guilty of being a PhD economist.

  13. Bill

    Just another cut in a death by a thousand cuts to the value of credit card points. It is getting to the point where I may just start getting rid of most cards. Difficult getting reasonable value for the points I have already due to all the cuts we have seen and pent up travel demand post covid will pretty much eliminate any award space availability.

  14. Joseph N.

    @HChris that piece on Miles to Memories was horribly misleading. Almost no WoH members have the (geographic) ability to switch among different "off peak" Cat 1 hotels in the same weekend.

  15. Ron Mexico

    This “hobby” has lost its allure for me. Closing cards, burning the points I have left, and going cash back. It’s been fun. But, not fun anymore. To everyone else, keep on keeping on. I’m tired of it.

  16. DaKine

    Only one person noticed the biggest devaluation here... all inclusive properties getting hit with a fairly hefty ~10k for extra person charge. That did not exist before, the Ziva in Cabo I left yesterday is going from 20k to 30k for most normal people who have a guest. Is it going to 50k for a man with a wife and two kids? That would be very bad.

  17. Mark

    @ iahphx. Bingo. I absolutely want to know this as well. Super important to know this in advance of March 22. @lucky Can you find this out from Hyatt?

  18. iahphx

    Is there a date when Hyatt will release its peak/off-peak calendar -- other than on March 22? In other words, will be get an opportunity to book peak days at current prices before then?

  19. Ben

    @HChris - suppose it'll depend on what regions/times are off-peak, but I have 5 or so that are Cat 1 and maybe 15 mins or less out of my way on my daily commute. I'll be very tempted to level up, depending on where I am in my qualification at both 2k and 3.5k.

  20. HChris

    @Ben, yes one could do that. There was a great piece from Miles to Memories earlier today, which explained the hacking you can do if you have the WoH credit card. After March 22, you have the opportunity to earn exactly 20 elite qualifying nights for 2,000 WoH points a night if max out the current promotion. It is not easy though, because you need to have more than one category 1 hotels near you...

    @Ben, yes one could do that. There was a great piece from Miles to Memories earlier today, which explained the hacking you can do if you have the WoH credit card. After March 22, you have the opportunity to earn exactly 20 elite qualifying nights for 2,000 WoH points a night if max out the current promotion. It is not easy though, because you need to have more than one category 1 hotels near you that are priced at off-peak rates of 3,500 per night and you will receive a 1,500 bonus per stay. So you need to book one night stays and then move properties since consecutive nights, even when booked separately, don't count as multiple stays.

    @Lucky, not even my Globalist Concierge could answer my question and told me she would get back to me with an answer as soon as possible, but maybe you know. Let's hypothetically say that I have booked a category 4 standard hotel today for 15,000 but that hotel will move to category 3 on March 22nd. I should be refunded the difference of 3,000 points. However, what if Hyatt on March 22nd also determined that I am staying during a peak period? Will I still receive 3,000 points back because I booked a "standard rate", which is now lower or will I not receive any points back because a category 3 hotel also is 15,000 during peak days?

  21. Frank

    So just to be clear at check out I could request 65000 points deducted from my account to get the $1000 credit ? Or does it work a different way? Thanks

  22. Ben

    3,500 pt off-peak means people who are short of the 60 nights can "pay points" to hit their status for the year. If say, 10 nights short, 35,000 points (or $525) can get you up to the highest status level if you can find it. Cha-ching!

  23. Will Shrop

    For instance, if you look at a Category 4 hotel going for, normally, $250 per night. Then it's 1.4 vs 1.7 cpp. Still a decent redemption rate (unless you're a CSR user).

    But I'm staying at a couple Hyatt's in Tokyo in March and my valuation is well over 3cpp for each. This minor devaluation ain't going to make me upset.

  24. Will Shrop

    This really isn't a big deal. I mean, yes, your points will be worth less, but it's really a minor devaluation in my opinion when comparing peak to standard nights. Heck, maybe you'll get luck and get an off peak night.

  25. Ben Kingsley

    Ben: Don't forget to take this development into account when calculating the Hyatt Points values. It can devalue the Hyatt Points values greatly. I am thinking of using up my points before March that they introducing this change.

  26. Kirk

    I just booked 8 nights in 3 different hotels in Japan for the first 2 weeks in March using points. Good to know they won't jack up the points required.

  27. Dave

    This stinks. Marriott is terrible. This sounds very Marriott like.

    I don’t really care about a single certificate. I want value above the standard chase portal redemption rate.

  28. Ray

    Is there any means to find category and peak/standard/off-peak lists from Hyatt? I have to assume these are set on a specific date so do they have charts that will highlight how to find these?

  29. Dan

    This is fine with me. I try to avoid the high season anyway because I hate tourists and kids. I'm looking forward to some off-peak rates.

  30. Ron mexico

    “Down goes Hyatt—he’s down—not getting up—it’s over”. Ding ding ding. Whatever shall we do now?

  31. Lisfranc

    1. Could have been much much worse.

    2. @MR. The new redemption option at 1.54cpm for on property expenses essentially creates a floor value around 1.5c. I for one really welcome this option and it almost outweighs the negative changes of the peak pricing.

    3. For those saying travel hacking is dead. Just remember, we are in the golden age of points generating for spend. Chase offering 3x on Reserve and 5x on Ink Biz makes it so easy to accumulate Hyatt points.

  32. DCS

    Super sez: @"I still find Hyatt to have the best bang for your buck as far as redeeming *only* 30k points for some extremely aspirational hotels. "

    Would you believe that your "*only* 30K" WoH points are no different than redeeming *only* about 95K HH points "for some extremely aspirational hotels"? Got another reason for claiming "Hyatt to have the best bang for your buck"? ;-)

  33. Jane

    May seem fair if you have a points earning card but they've not released their credit card to UK customers so this is just making it even harder for UK customers.

  34. cahbf

    I use Hyatt points at Zilara, which is arguably the best use of points if you have interest in all inclusive (25k points for 2 people for a 600/nt room). SO this devaluation is no bueno

  35. Clem

    Like many others say, the changes aren't too upsetting and the peak prices are fairly reasonable - it's not a crazy increase compared to standard awards. I also like to travel off season so actually this is pretty good news for me, means I'm going to use less points. Thanks for the comprehensive article!

  36. Apex

    With Marriott, I’m seeing most weekend nights are priced at peak. If that’ll be the case with Hyatt too, then Hyatt Free Night Certificates just got more valuable post March 2020. (Too bad they always expire within 6-12 months)!

  37. Marv

    So many lemmings here are ok with yet another devaluation. This renders the the Hyatt CC useless imo. The race to the bottom for points programs continues. The golden age of travel hacking is over.

  38. Super

    @Kendor when you saw the greater-than-normal amount of points to book a room you were probably being offered a club room or suite as that was all the hotel had available. It's not the hotel playing games. Hyatt hotels have never been able to play games with point redemption *cost*. Availability, yes, but cost, no.

  39. Super

    @Gary Leff - I can't seem to find where it says that Hyatt themselves will determine which dates are peak? I know it says it's based upon geography, but that could also mean that, for example, all Tokyo area hotels meet and decide which days are peak, rather than Hyatt. Can you please confirm where you saw that? I may have just missed it, thanks!

    Also - as others in this thread are saying: these...

    @Gary Leff - I can't seem to find where it says that Hyatt themselves will determine which dates are peak? I know it says it's based upon geography, but that could also mean that, for example, all Tokyo area hotels meet and decide which days are peak, rather than Hyatt. Can you please confirm where you saw that? I may have just missed it, thanks!

    Also - as others in this thread are saying: these changes are not that bad (and they even softened the blow with points back if your existing award stay becomes off-peak with the change). With all these changes to World of Hyatt, new partnerships, and purchases, I figured we'd see an award chart massacre. I still find Hyatt to have the best bang for your buck as far as redeeming *only* 30k points for some extremely aspirational hotels. Still a big Hyatt loyalist!

  40. Kendor

    This change is not excessive or unreasonable. The basic promises and benefits of the WoH program are still in place. And actually, this may simply formalize something that I've occasionally noticed at properties like the Hyatt on the Bund in Shanghai and the Huntington Beach Hyatt Resort & Spa. Sometimes when I've searched awards availability around very busy weekends, I've been offered an awards room, but it has required a greater-than-normal amount of points to...

    This change is not excessive or unreasonable. The basic promises and benefits of the WoH program are still in place. And actually, this may simply formalize something that I've occasionally noticed at properties like the Hyatt on the Bund in Shanghai and the Huntington Beach Hyatt Resort & Spa. Sometimes when I've searched awards availability around very busy weekends, I've been offered an awards room, but it has required a greater-than-normal amount of points to book.

    That all said, my advice to the World of Hyatt administrators is that the great strength of its program vs. competing hotel loyaly programs is its consistency. As a Hyatt credit card customer, I know what the points I earn will be worth. That understanding encourages me to spend money on my Hyatt credit card. As someone who stays a lot of nights in Hyatt hotels, I know what that loyalty will earn me. That encourages me to spend more night in Hyatt hotels: I derive real value from my stays. I think everyone wins if the rules are understandable and if the program is consistent in its rewards and expectations.

  41. Vicky

    Using Florida/Hawaii as an example, why wouldn't Hyatt have half the year at high season and the rest of the year at standard (by one day, so they hold true to their point that majority of nights will be standard). It makes sense right, since there's never really a low season in Florida or Hawaii, only high and standard.

    Most people aren't redeeming points in low season, but rather other times of year when they...

    Using Florida/Hawaii as an example, why wouldn't Hyatt have half the year at high season and the rest of the year at standard (by one day, so they hold true to their point that majority of nights will be standard). It makes sense right, since there's never really a low season in Florida or Hawaii, only high and standard.

    Most people aren't redeeming points in low season, but rather other times of year when they actually want to travel for leisure and save money by using points. This is nothing more than a devaluation for those that travel peak season.

    And for those that do travel for leisure in low season, are they really going to take advantage of low point costs in Chicago during winter...or are they just going to book a room for the $100 a night that rates typically are during that time.

  42. MR

    So these points are very clearly no longer worth 1.5 cents. Anyone who says otherwise is just not serious.

  43. Cliff

    It would only be fair if they also fix the award inventory/standard suite availability game played by various properties...

  44. DiscoPapa

    Every time I see a headline with Hyatt in the title, I get a little squeamish. Glad to see these changes are fair and reasonable. Agree with some previous comments - very glad they are keeping Cat 1-4 certs to be based on category and not point cost (looking at you, Marriott).

  45. Stuart

    I find this to be very fair. Hyatt still leads by a mile.

  46. AJK

    @ Gene:

    Obviously. But it isn't a "no-notice change" if (i) no change occurs until March 2020 (i.e., there is no peak/off-peak until then), and (ii), more appropriately in your hypothetical, in March 2020, they're going to refund you if it goes down or decline to charge you if it goes up.

  47. UA-NYC

    While I don’t love it, I have a lot more trust in Hyatt than say, oh I don’t know, Marriott to do right.

    Making their certs valid on peak Cat 4 is a good sign. Unlike, you know, Marriott, who screwed us with the 35k point cap.

  48. Gene

    @ AJK -- I can read. I am asking about an award I book today for, say, next May. Is it possible that the Standard price offered yesterday is Peak today?

  49. AJK

    @Gene:

    "As of March 2020 . . ."

  50. Raylan

    @Ben - thanks for asking and confirming.

  51. Gene

    @ Ben -- So this is no-notice change?

  52. AJK

    "--There is no minimum or maximum number of nights that a property can designate as peak or off-peak
    --The majority of days will be set to standard redemption rates each year"

    That is contradictory. Assuming the second bullet is accurate, the max nights would be 182 per year.

  53. Raylan

    How will this work with the category 1-4 free night that comes with the Chase WOH card?

    1. Ben (Lucky)

      @ Raylan -- I followed up on this, and certificates will continue to be valid at the same category hotels, even in peak season. Great question, and thanks for asking it.

  54. Lolo

    This blows...erasure cards seem to be the way to go nowadays.

  55. LarryInNYC

    The decision for peak and off-peak pricing is based on the geographic market, meaning that all properties within the same market will adhere to the same calendar

    There is no minimum or maximum number of nights that a property can designate as peak or off-peak

    The majority of days will be set to standard redemption rates each year

    The first two points can't both be true. If the calendar is being determined geographically, then individual...

    The decision for peak and off-peak pricing is based on the geographic market, meaning that all properties within the same market will adhere to the same calendar

    There is no minimum or maximum number of nights that a property can designate as peak or off-peak

    The majority of days will be set to standard redemption rates each year

    The first two points can't both be true. If the calendar is being determined geographically, then individual properties are not designating peak and off-peak days. Also, points two and three can't both be true since point three establishes a maximum for peak and off-peak together of 182 days (or, just less than half the year).

  56. Dan

    How do the dining and spa credits work? Can you apply WOH points to hotel charges at checkout, or is it something done before or after that?

    thanks

  57. BRMM

    Compared to how this could have been implemented, I think this is pretty fair. And it's very gracious to refund points if you've booked higher then off-peak while not demanding more points if you've booked and are paying less than peak.

  58. Gary Leff

    One slight clarification. You write, "I’m concerned that some hotels will just choose to be peak for half the year, and have no off-peak dates."

    It's Hyatt that determines which dates are peak (based largely on their expectations about occupancy and therefore cost to the program, as you observe), not individual hotels making the decision.

  59. David

    in4 permanent peak pricing

  60. LAXJeff

    It’s a copycat world. These types of changes are never positive in whole.

  61. bill

    Excited for the Andaz Maui to have 181 peak days, one off-peak day, and 183 standard days where no award space is available!

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Jetiquette

Why are people complaining? Hyatt still offers the best redemption rates from transferrable currencies. I would much rather my Ultimate Rewards earn me 3-5 nights at a Hyatt than 1-2 at a Marriott or Hilton.

UA-NYC

Believe Hyatt has already said that minimum of 1/2 the dates will be Standard

Ed

It is good news to hear that Hyatt is postponing the devaluation. Hopefully I will be able to book summer 2022 by mid-October.

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