Frontier Airlines Shamed For Wrong Reasons

If you ask me, this outrage towards Frontier Airlines is completely unwarranted.

Frontier Airlines’ “More Room” concept

A couple of days ago I wrote about Frontier Airlines’ “More Room” concept — the airline was going to start selling seats that include a guaranteed empty middle seat.

Most airlines have long let you purchase a second seat if you want more room, so I think this was a smart concept. They were essentially making it more affordable and easier to make sure you have an empty seat next to you, should you want that comfort and peace of mind.

I encouraged other airlines to follow Frontier’s move, and think it’s a great option in general, especially as demand is unlikely to fully recover anytime in the next couple of years.


Frontier Airlines planes in Denver

Frontier Airlines backtracks due to backlash

The Denver Post reports that Frontier Airlines is backtracking on this policy due to backlash. The outrage came both from the public, as well as from several US Senators, who clearly used this to make a political point.

As Frontier Airlines CEO Barry Biffle describes the decision to not follow through with this initiative:

“We recognize the concerns raised that we are profiting from safety and this was never our intent. We simply wanted to provide our customers with an option for more space. We will leave the seats blocked which were associated with this product and honor purchases made by all customers who bought the product up until now.”

Prior to that Biffle had said the following to justify this optional service:

“We continue to see a lot of feedback from customers that say ‘OK, I get it, I see that I’m safe but I’d just like a little more peace of mind,’ so we have offered this product, this guaranteed middle seat open.”

What do people actually want?

A couple of weeks ago I wrote about the increasing amount of “full flight” outrage we’re seeing. The way this works:

  • Non-essential workers take flights, most of which were probably cheap, since airfare is very low right now
  • These are people who generally don’t actually need to be on planes (they could either just stay home or drive) and are outraged to find that other people are doing the same
  • Even though the airline never promised to block all middle seats, passengers claim that they feel extremely unsafe, and seem to think that their $36 ticket entitles them to a private jet
  • They’re also outraged that there’s no “social distancing,” even though proper social distancing on a plane is an oxymoron

It’s these unrealistic expectations that made me appreciate Frontier’s approach to things. Realistically airlines are doing a much better job cleaning planes and are also requiring face masks, but blocking all middle seats isn’t a common practice:

  • Do people want airlines to block all middle seats and raise fares 50% or more to account for that?
  • Do people want airlines to block all middle seats and absorb the cost, even though they’re already losing billions of dollars?
  • Is the real problem that people who don’t want to pay for it have an issue with other people being able to pay for it?

In theory I can appreciate the frustration associated with the last point. Safety should be a given for people, and shouldn’t come at a price. However:

  • It’s not like it’s safe to fly when you’re two feet from someone, but not safe to fly when you’re a few inches from someone; it’s mostly about peace of mind
  • If you’re really concerned about your safety, don’t get on a plane right now, rather than blaming airlines when you do get on a plane; there’s a highly contagious virus and we don’t yet have a vaccine or proper testing when flying
  • In exit rows you’re further from the person in front of you, so should airlines not be able to sell exit row seats for more? What about first class seats (though obviously Frontier doesn’t have first class seats)?

Frontier Airlines A320

Bottom line

I thought Frontier Airlines’ plan to sell blocked middle seats was a smart move that could generate some revenue. Realistically no airline is going to block middle seats for “free” long term.

I don’t really get what solution people are proposing in place of this — do they think that everyone should get a blocked middle seat for “free,” do they want airfare to go up 50%+ across the board and then everyone is guaranteed an empty middle seat, or do they just not want some people to have the option to purchase more space? Should airlines not be able to charge a premium for more spacious seats, since they do offer more personal space and distance from others?

This seems like misdirected outrage, if you ask me…

Where do you stand on this? To anyone who disagrees with me, what do you actually want to see airlines do?

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RC Guest

we pay for extra legroom, we pay for exit row, we pay for seat assignment, why not have the option to pay for a blocked middle seat. it happens in business class in Europe essentially, so I think this is actually a really good option/opportunity. those who cant afford business, PE, etc could at least have a bit extra room on their flight....

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Rich A Guest

I think the fact that the bailout money was to keep folks employed has been left out. Do we really need those folks added to the unemployment rate. Frontier was not forcing anyone to pay the fee for the extra seat. If you want that as an option for yourself you should be allowed.

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David Miller Guest

L- the "different ways" you speak about on other airlines concerning refunding and cancellations "may be available in different ways" - for normally huge, unconscionable fee. Not so on Southwest. "Free" is the key word here. In rebuttal, "every flight attendant on every airline does this" is an out and out lie. There are numerous documented horror stories about the hateful, surly attendants on several of the legacy airlines. But I digress. You have the right, as long as you can afford to, to fly any airline you wish. I choose Southwest because I know what I am getting and I have never been disappointed.

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L Guest

David Miller. I appreciate the fact you love Southwest and I do not have an issue with that...what I was referring to is this statement. "There should have been nothing in the first place. All airlines (save WN) treat us like garbage. Lets return the favor. If there has to be loans and bailouts then only WN should get anything" The fact is all airlines are suffering. That me rephrase that. All business are suffering but to blatantly say only one should get money. that is what is assinine. In actuality it was the choice of the airlines if they wanted the bailout. This issue will continue to be a bit topic with mud slinging , favoritism of businesses....what you stated about cabin crew being helpful I am sure every flight attendant on every airline does this. Yes including the legacies....all points you stated about refunding, cancelling , points are available on all airlines in different ways,,,Southwest does not have the corner on that.... Again i appreciate the ability to state an opinion. Yours and mine. Like in all aspects of this crisis emotions run high,. Words are said sometimes the wrong or misconstrued ones..but all of us are in this together,,,how may times has this been said,. I am sure Southwest is happy to have you as a customer,. But the other airlines are just as good and maybe better in some areas. Have a great day...fly safe

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David Miller Guest

L--- Not speaking for Dave - your posting is asinine. I have flown Southwest for over 30 years and have never had a problem. The fares are cheaper than any of the other legacy airlines. No name or flight change fees, ever. Cancelling flights is easy and your funds are good to use on another future flight for 1 year. If you have and use "points" to book a flight and then cancel, the points go back to your account and are good forever to use at a later date. Cattle call? What a joke. You can choose ANY available seat, even if others try to "save a seat" - but most Southwest flyers are understanding if one is trying to save a seat, and on Southwest you don't have to pay for a seat selection. Service on a one hour flight -, you get drink service on every flight. The "you pay for everything on Southwest" comment - what does that mean? You pay for your ticket, if you want to board early ( to find a seat that is not a middle seat) there is a small fee, you pay for your drinks. You do not pay for the first 2 bags, no rip-off there. The cabin crews are always helpful and knowledgeable -not like several other legacy airlines. I don't work for Southwest and have never been disappointed in any flight I have ever taken. Your condescending "guidelines for replying" are nothing but insulting. I will continue to always fly Southwest, they are the best.

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