Review: Condor Business Class 767 New Orleans To Frankfurt

Condor invited me to join this flight to promote their new route from Frankfurt to New Orleans. While I didn’t pay for this ticket, my primary reason for taking the flight was to make people aware of the new route, not to promote their business class product. All opinions expressed below about the onboard experience are my own. 


While Ben grew up flying Condor, I hadn’t flown them until earlier this year. I had a great experience on my outbound flight to Cape Town, though wasn’t overly impressed by my return in their Premium Class. In any case, I was excited to try their new business class product on the 767 onboard the inaugural flight from New Orleans to Frankfurt.

A Condor 767 after arriving in New Orleans.

It’s important to consider that Condor is a leisure airline, so most of their markets have little or no competition, and their passengers on most routes are Germans going on vacation. What makes them unique in comparison to other Thomas Cook Group airlines is that you can easily book roundtrip or even one-way tickets with them. Meanwhile, Thomas Cook Scandinavia only sells flights as a part of vacation packages.

I arrived at the airport around 5:30pm ahead of the 6:00pm water canon salute and media event.

Check-in for the inaugural flight.
Check-in for the inaugural flight.

Sure enough, the 767-300 sporting Condor’s new livery pulled in at 6:08pm with the German and American flags flying high.

My aircraft after arriving in New Orleans.
My aircraft after arriving in New Orleans.

After the ribbon cutting and a press conference, it was time to depart. Unfortunately thunderstorms in New Orleans prevented the ground staff from cleaning and loading the aircraft, meaning we had to wait for an additional hour before we could board.

Condor New Orleans to Frankfurt

One perk of being on a special flight is that it’s entirely reasonable to ask if you can board early to snap some photos of the cabin 😉 When the aircraft was ready for boarding I had the cabin for two minutes before they let anyone else on.

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Condor has two different 767 configurations. One has five rows of 2-2-2 business class, for a total of 30 seats. Meanwhile, the aircraft I was on had only three rows, also in a 2-2-2 layout. While I can’t quite make sense of it, the airline always blocks seats 1H and 1K for the crew, and even have a privacy curtain for them. While this is nice for the crew, I imagine the long-run cost of always blocking two seats must be high.

Regardless, I was lucky to get a window seat in row 2. The seats have no privacy since you can see your entire row if you glance over, but there was a privacy partition that was helpful when going to sleep.

Condor Business Class Privacy

My seat itself was comfortable for sitting, and had a highly adjustable headrest.

Condor 767 Business Class

Part of the right armrest could be lowered with the click of a button to widen the bed. Further up that armrest were the seat controls and a drink tray.

Condor 767 Business Class Seat Controls

Underneath it was an ejectable remote.

Condor 767 Business Class remote

The left armrest contained the tray table, which was sturdy. When reclined, the entire armrest automatically lowered.

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In the center armrest there were also two power ports. Allegedly there were USB ports at the seat as well, though I couldn’t find them.

Condor 767 Business Class

The entertainment screen was large and responsive to touch.

Condor 767 Business Class

The entertainment selection was average, but more than enough for the 10 hour flight.

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I ended up using the Condor headphones for most of my flight. They canceled almost all outside noise – color me impressed.

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As a storage-freak, I really appreciated the relatively big storage area above the screen. I wish more airlines would implement simple solutions like this in their forward facing business class.

Condor 767 Business Class Storage

Next to the storage are were two coat hooks.
Next to the storage are were two coat hooks.

The amenity kit was a winner with me. I don’t usually have a preference for branded amenity kits (apart from Rimowa), and I actually really liked the tablet/laptop case design.

Condor Business Class amenity kit.
Condor Business Class amenity kit.

It contained the bare-essentials and was identical to the premium economy kit.

Condor 767 Business Class amenity kit

The bedding and pillow were nice.

Condor Business Class pillow

As soon as I settled in the crew offered me a welcome beverage. Choosing between orange juice and sparkling wine, I took the latter.

Condor Business Class departure beverage

Sadly the weather delays continued once we were onboard, and we ended up taking off two hours behind schedule. Part of the delay was caused by the ground handlers not knowing how to push back a 767, which was amusing and reminded me that this inaugural flight was a big deal for so many people.

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Once in the air, I decided to watch Black Swan, which I’d never seen before.

As soon as they could, the crew rolled out the beverage carts and distributed the menus.

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And the drink menu read as follows:

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First the crew served a packet of almonds, which I snacked on with some “bitter lemon juice.”

Condor Business Class

Before presenting the first course, the crew gave out hot towels.

Condor Business Class hot towels

Next, the appetizer was served. It’s worth noting that I ordered a special meal, hence the lack of dairy products.

My appetizer.
The appetizer was my favorite part of the meal service.

The main course was served soon after.

Rise and grilled vegetables for my main course.
Rice and grilled vegetables for my main course.

I finished my dessert when we had 6:50h left to Frankfurt.

Dessert was a simple fruit plate for me.
Dessert was a fruit plate for me.

Two and a half hours isn’t too bad to complete the meal service, and I guess the slow start can be blamed on the bad weather. Overall, I enjoyed the meal.

The two business class flight attendants were quite a typical German crew in the sense that they were professional and charming, but not overly attentive.

There was only one restroom in the business class cabin, so after a little wait, I brushed my teeth and got ready for bed.

As I mentioned, the seat is angled, and not in the Emirates or EgyptAir way. While the seat is flat, it stays about 25-35 degrees off the floor.

Condor 767 Business Class bed

When I first laid down I was a little startled at how steep the angle felt, though it clearly wasn’t much of an issue since I fell asleep within minutes. Despite a small-looking footwell, my legs could move freely and the space didn’t really restrict me.

Without the sheets the angle becomes more visible.
Without the sheets the angle becomes more visible.

Condor doesn’t have individual air vents, but thankfully the crew kept the temperature perfect. Given how much I’ve been flying the 787 recently, I was expecting to be bothered by the low cabin humidity on the 767. To my surprise, I didn’t even notice a difference.

Five hours later I abruptly woke up in the middle of the breakfast service. This meal reminded me a lot of my dinner of Norwegian last autumn, and was fresh-tasting.

Condor Business Class breakfast

Before I knew it we were descending into Frankfurt.

Condor 767 Approaching Frankfurt

Before taking their seats, the crew handed me a little farewell chocolate.

Condor Business Class chocolate

We finally touched down at 2:20pm local time, 1:30h behind schedule.

Approaching Frankfurt on Condor

As we were taxiing to the gate, the captain announced that we’d brought the thunderstorms with us from New Orleans, because the entire airport suddenly suspended operations. All outbound aircraft were stopped for a good two hours, at which time we just stood on the tarmac.

It was fascinating as arriving traffic started to pile up. Eventually every taxiway at Frankfurt Airport was occupied by aircraft waiting for parking positions.

Frankfurt Chaos
All these aircraft were waiting for a parking position.
Not a single flight departed from Frankfurt.
Not a single flight departed from Frankfurt.

In the meantime, the crew, who were clearly just as frustrated as the passengers, did their best to make it comfortable by letting us move around the cabin. They also served drinks and snacks.

We finally got to our bus gate at 4:30pm.

Condor 767 in Frankfurt

If you’re interested, you can watch my YouTube review here:

Bottom Line 

In my eyes, Condor Business Class has become 10x more attractive since they partnered with Alaska’s Milage Plan. For many of us here at OMAAT, the possibility to earn miles is of utmost importance. With that in mind, I would definitely fly Condor Business Class again. While there are certainly areas for improvement, Condor is a good option if traveling from most of their North American destinations to Europe. They have great fares, (angled) lie flat seats, good service and solid meals. I’m excited to see what the Alaska redemption rates will look like for this product.

Have you ever flown Condor? What did you think?

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Simona Vachalkova Guest

I had the worst experience flying with CONDOR, i literally ended up crying while boarding from a terrible customer tratment! I was flying from Cancun to Vienna ane then back from Vienna to Cancun since i live in Cancun, and it was the 4th time in past 2 years i have been flying this destination. On my way there, Condor even charged me for terrible quality earphones which are available for free with any other company! It is ridiculous, are they in red numbers!? The flight ticket cost €1650 for economy class which is the highest rate i have ever had to pay and i have been traveling during christmas time the same destination!! Dry nasty pasta which stinked with a piece of bread and cabbage salad which was probably already after the date of consumption and its the same on the way back, of course. Totally not worth even €1 to pay for flying with this “joke” which is called Condor. When i was doing check in of the baggage, the employee “helping” me was super rude, wasnt helpful at all and seemed like i was bothering him while he was only doing his job!!! Arriving to Munich, i came to boarding and then waited in the line with my boarding pass and my passport. When I came to the entrance, the lady told me to show her return ticket. I kindly told her that i live in cancun thats why i dont have a return ticket. She said that i cant fly until i show her a return ticket!!!!!! I couldnt believe my ears, i started shaking, trying to explain that i dont have it, that cancun is my home, that i have my papers there and everything. She sent me to a guy that was the rudest guy i have ever experienced, honestly. There were two other girls having the same problem, he was very very very rude, yelling at 3 girls who had never had a problem like this before since all 3 of us happened to be traveling WITHOUT a return ticket a lot! He even told me that he sent someone to get out my luggage out of the plane! He wasn’t at all trying to help or resolve the situation as any company should! I felt he was trying to make the situation even worse and find out how to make it impossible for me to enter the plane. I have never ever heard more stupid thing than this! They literally made us buy completely worthless flight tickets that we will never ever use! I showed them my visa, my number of tramit, everything i have to confirm I’m telling them the truth but they just didn’t care! I asked for their complete names because i truly feel this should be punished and someone competent should know this, but of course they refused! Its not okay to yell at customers, they are feeding them! Without us, there is no company, traveling should be a pleasant time and not stress! I had to buy two more tickets which cost me another €300 and this money is thrown away to trash, i will never ever see it again. I ended up crying my eyes out from so much stress and desperation from such a bad bad customer treatment. I dont expect anyone from the worst Condor to even read it but if my story could help someone to avoid CONDOR, and stress and throwing away their money, thats my satisfaction. I wish he gave me his name but im sure he knew why he didnt. It was the worst service i have ever had,i will never ever fly with them again, id rather stay home then travel with Condor, i feel harassed, i paid to get a service, not yelling and bullying. We are the customers, we should be treated like we deserve, and most of all, we are all humans, this is unacceptable. Thank you for reading, i truly hope it helped

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Rupert Guest

Helpful review - you get business class with angled flat seat at a premium economy price and earn Alaska miles - sounds good to me and I've signed up for their price alerts!

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Ron Dobroth Guest

I flew Condors business class from Seattle to Frankfurt November 2016 and back in February 2017 and I find Daniels review to be pretty spot on. Nobody kissed our backside, but service was friendly. Food was good to very good. The wine helps a lot in that department. Entertainment package more than adequate to cover the duration of the flight. I was however a little disappointed in the "lay flat" seats. As Daniel indicated they had a slant to them, that I found a little annoying as I found myself actually slipping down on them and having to slide myself back up. Sleep was a little erratic as a result, but certainly better than being stuck in a regular economy seat that might only recline a little. Additionally, my expectations were likely a little too high where it involved boarding the aircraft. There was no boarding priority given to the business class, but not being a frequent flyer, that aspect might be normal. No time to be snooty. All in all though, it met my expectations for a discount business class, and likely as not, I will do it again on my next trip to Germany.

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James Pointer Guest

I am thinking of using Condor to go to Germany in August so I reread this. While it's easy to read between the lines and discern that this is more of an advertisement than a review, I am baffled by the closing comment, "They have great fares, (angled) lie flat seats..." Maybe I am just not conversant enough with the terminology, but how can a lie flat seat be constructed, by design, to be angled? Doesn't the seat either lie flat (180 degrees) or not? It seems to me that "lie flat" should not be used when describing this seat unless it, indeed, lies flat. I'm not being mean-spirited when I say this, but I believe that bloggers, particularly when they are paid by the airline, should go out of their way to use objective, unambiguous descriptors.

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Nick Guest

I thought it was a useful review. 19" width and 59 inch pitch is an older J product, but it's better than what I was flying ORD-ARN on AA for work 15 years ago on 767s. The review was upfront about it being comped, it wasn't gushing and didn't try to say that the Condor J seat matched up with current US3 J seats. But it certainly appears to be equal to or better than Premium Economy on BA/VS/AF/AZ/IB. Using ITA Matrix, I found a few routes that still have sub-$1000 one-way eastbound J fares this summer. For somebody without airline status trying to do a trip with a combination of cash and miles, having an option of PIT-FRA for $851 one-way with two free checked bags, that's a useful tool. The biggest challenge is the limited schedule. PIT-FRA for example only has business class only Monday and Friday from July 7 through September 1.

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