Vueling Fined For S...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Vueling Fined For Sexist Flight Attendant Rules

9 Posts
5 Users
0 Reactions
72 Views
Posts: 39594
Admin
Topic starter
(@lucky)
Member
Joined: 13 years ago
[#14736]
wpf-cross-image

As reported by El Peridico and noted by Live and Let’s Fly, Spanish ultra low cost carrier Vueling is facing a fine over its employee dress code and appearance standards.

Continue reading: Vueling Fined For Sexist Flight Attendant Rules

Share your questions, experiences, and thoughts below.


8 Replies
8 Replies
Diamond
(@travelinwilly)
Joined: 5 years ago

Member
Posts: 2488

I’d be okay with the f/a rules provided the men are required to be 1.8-1.9 meters in height with a 5% BMI and 18 cm (when soft) members.

Otherwise, yeah, the court made a good ruling here.


Reply
(@DCAWABN)
Joined: 6 years ago

Posts: 246

Looking at it from 180-degrees, this could theoretically be less problematic for female FAs depending on how nitpicky you want to be. The loophole I see is that the male grooming standards are superficially less onerous but way more open to Vueling's interpretation. They don't define "clean and neat" in any way, so it's wholly open to interpretation by the airline or the purser or whomever is policing grooming standards. Haven't read the totality of the regulations but could they not simply deny a flight to a male FA who was subjectively "not" in compliance based on whatever the purser/grooming police thinks that means?

Compared to the male regulations, the regulations for female grooming is specific while levying more superficial requirements insomuch as foundation use, eyeliner, etc. But, using malicious compliance, female FAs could absolutely follow those rules but to disastrous results if they so choose. Just because you have makeup on, per regulation, doesn't mean it has to look good. Or simply do the bare minimum and force Vueling to prove you're in non-compliance. And without wording as nebulous as the male grooming standard, this could turn the tables. It'd be a lot of work, but ultimately it might actually be easier for female FAs.

Ultimately I applaud Veuling for at least taking the initiative to ensure their staff present themselves well (something the US3 need to learn about) - though unsure if this is the best way to do it since it enforces highly subjective rules as to "beauty", though indirectly. Their hard product and business ops, on the other hand, could use a TON of work though...especially as a resident of Catalunya that is sometimes begrudgingly a passenger of Vueling because of their route network in the Med/Adriatic. Case in point: a 757 (or A321...been a while) leased from who-knows-where in which two of the forward lavatories were missing toilet seats. Not just the lids, but the actual lid/seat combination leaving a literal hole in the commode base. FAs shrugged and responded with "Yo no sé." But at least they looked great while doing so.


Reply
(@Bagoly)
Joined: 9 years ago

Posts: 266

Personally I find make-up ugly, so the banned rules made no sense whatsoever.
And what's this current "norm" of 2"-3" heels?
Back in the 1980s in ballroom dancing (a glamour area, I think), 2" was standard, but 3" was considered extremely high.
I do think at least 1/2" looks more elegant than completely flat, but more than 2.5" frankly looks inelegant.


Reply
(@Eskimo)
Joined: 8 years ago

Posts: 6043

Bunch of hypocrites.

Their language still discriminates different gender.


Reply
(@Jules M)
Joined: 9 years ago

Posts: 16

I couldn't care less if flight attendents wear makeup or not. But I definitely DO care if they show up looking like they rolled out of bed.

It's a tough task for airlines to issues guidelines in the new world.


Reply
Diamond
(@ben-l)
Joined: 5 years ago

Member
Posts: 0

[unthawing from a glacier after having missed the past 20,000 years of societal development]

"This could theoretically be less problematic for female FAs."


Reply
Diamond
(@david-7)
Joined: 5 years ago

Member
Posts: 0

Therefore there is the "clean and neat" requirement. What are you confused about?


Reply
(@vlcnc)
Joined: 10 years ago

Posts: 555

It is a tough one, goes without saying standards should be equal for men, women and non-binary cabin crew, but I do think people should be smart and presentable - I do think it represents airlines badly when crew look messy and unkempt and it is sadly a common sight on most western airlines not just low cost ones. Recent flight on British Airways and it was a bit disappointing to see staff so messily presented.


Reply