President Trump is claiming that Bombardier can no longer sell planes in the United States. I’m kind of speechless, because nothing about this makes sense… maybe someone can help me make sense of this?
Trump: “BUY AMERICAN. FLY ON AMERICAN AIRLINERS.”
Trump has taken to social media, to post the following:
NO MORE SELLING BOMBARDIER IN THE UNITED STATES! Their products aren’t good enough! Over 50% of their revenue comes from the United States — They live off American Buyers, American Companies, American Airports, and American Service — All while Canada blocks our GREAT American Banks, and Companies, throughout the U.S.A. They even blocked Gulfstream Aerospace from doing business in Canada — Completely unjust and unfair! That Era is OVER! If they want our Market, they must build here, and stop treating America like a “piggybank.” BUY AMERICAN. FLY ON AMERICAN AIRLINERS. ENJOY AMERICAN LIQUOR AND BEVERAGES. SAIL ON LAKE AMERICA. AMERICA FIRST! Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. TRUMP
What is Trump even trying to suggest here?
So if this is to be believed, there’s “no more selling Bombardier in the United States.” Trump claims it’s because “their products aren’t good enough,” but obviously this is more of a trade war thing, because he says the company needs to stop treating the United States like a piggybank.
I think the most interesting thing is the line about “BUY AMERICAN. FLY ON AMERICAN AIRLINERS.” Bombardier’s current jet program consists of private jets and not commercial jets (though Bombardier CRJ-200s, 700s, 900s, and 1000s, are still in service, but no longer produced). So I guess he’s using “AIRLINERS” to refer to private jets as well?
If this is really all about “flying” American and buying products from the United States, then shouldn’t other foreign produced aircraft also be banned, like the Airbus planes manufactured abroad?
Trump’s trade war with Canada of course isn’t anything new. Even this specific grievance with Bombardier isn’t new. In early 2026, Trump claimed that he had decertified all planes produced in Canada. This was in particular targeted at Bombardier, related to a disagreement over Canada’s certification of Gulfstream jets produced in the United States.
As you’d expect, nothing really came of that. I suspect this will be similar…
Bottom line
Trump claims that there’s “NO MORE SELLING BOMBARDIER IN THE UNITED STATES.” It’s not clear if he’s suggesting that’s an actual policy he’s implementing (it’s what he’s inferring, at a minimum), or what. He claims Americans are being screwed by Canada, the United States is 50% of the customer base for the planes (yeah, we do have a lot of billionaires), and that Americans should fly American “AIRLINERS” (aka private jets).
What do you make of Trump’s Bombardier sale ban, or whatever you call this?
So...about that Air Force One jet POTUS has recently enjoyed flying...
Which one? The 744s that where built in the US* many decades ago, or the one built in the US* more recently that was lifted to the US?
Trump offers a p,ethora of targets for criticism. Why choose an invalid one (if this is about trade)?
*built in the US with parts from all over the wirld.
This comes to mind, if you’re gonna go there, why not speculate even more wildly into the abyss… perhaps, it’s SAM 27000, the 707-variant now housed in the Reagan Library… featured in the 2015 Republican debate… *facepalm*
Sooooooo ... time to buy stock in Embraer? $EMBJ? Got it!
Trumpster Fire
Kansas not happy
Not everything is a zero sum game
1) If Canada suffers more than the US in absolute terms, then the US “wins”
2) If Canada suffers more than the US in relative terms (i.e. loss of GDP), then the US “wins”
3) If by losing here a little, the US gains more on a separate (or future) issue, then the US gains”wins”. Think of this like a basketball coach who takes a technical or gets ejected, in order to gain...
1) If Canada suffers more than the US in absolute terms, then the US “wins”
2) If Canada suffers more than the US in relative terms (i.e. loss of GDP), then the US “wins”
3) If by losing here a little, the US gains more on a separate (or future) issue, then the US gains”wins”. Think of this like a basketball coach who takes a technical or gets ejected, in order to gain better officiating for his team the rest of the contest.
The sooner people realize that there is a POSSIBILITY that this crazy or incompetent schtick MAY be just that, an over-the-top performance, maybe we will not need to continue to have it force fed upon us.
One last thought, losing commenters with different perspectives does not a thriving comment section make, but rather an echo chamber.
‘Wins” what? People who think like this is how this ignorant buffoon got elected.
You kind of glossed over the 6 years of protectionist certification slow rolling over the gulfstream. Canada almost immediately conceded and certified them. No small thing. This makes less sense.... but I'm perfectly happy to have bombadiers be made in the US all the same.
THE MORE STUPID AMERICA ALLOWS TRUMP TO DO THESE IDIOTIC MANEUVERS YOU'LL END UP PAYING. COMMENTSLIKE BUY AMERICAN AND FLY AMERICAN AIRLINES, WHAT THE HELL DOES HE KNOW ABOUT FLYING IN THE STATES. I'LL PUT A DOZEN FOREIGN AIRLINES THAT DO NOT COME CLOSE TO BEING AS BAD AS US LINES
"I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!"
-- Brick Tamland (Steve Carell), Anchorman 2004.
I concur.
"MORE STUPID AMERICA"
More Americans can't properly read even more lacks reading comprehension.
i.e.
"COMMENTSLIKE BUY AMERICAN AND FLY AMERICAN AIRLINES"
Because your elected leader actually asks you to "FLY ON AMERICAN AIRLINeRS."
Then you go on to rant and add more trash to the conversation on a different topic bevause you can't properly read.
"I'LL PUT A DOZEN FOREIGN AIRLINES THAT DO NOT COME CLOSE TO...
I concur.
"MORE STUPID AMERICA"
More Americans can't properly read even more lacks reading comprehension.
i.e.
"COMMENTSLIKE BUY AMERICAN AND FLY AMERICAN AIRLINES"
Because your elected leader actually asks you to "FLY ON AMERICAN AIRLINeRS."
Then you go on to rant and add more trash to the conversation on a different topic bevause you can't properly read.
"I'LL PUT A DOZEN FOREIGN AIRLINES THAT DO NOT COME CLOSE TO BEING AS BAD AS US LINES"
When the topic was about "AIRLINeRS."
You created an account to post that? What a waste of amino acids you are.
ORD, perhaps, cross40 has learned the lesson of C-Tripper... better to register, than not.
Does anyone take anything this moron says seriously?
I'm hoping for the best outcome of the MID-TERMS to get rid of The Most Corrupt Government Administration in The World... he's just causing distractions to keep you out of The Epstein Files because that's WHERE ALL THE PEDIPHILES ARE AND ALL THE VICTIMS TOO...WE CAN'T GO FORWARD WITH PEOPLE WHO BACK PEOPLE THAT HURT OUR CHILDREN... ARTICLE 2 SECTION 4 THE WHOLE ADMINISTRATION IS FULL OF CRIMINALS..
"LOUD NOISES!!"
-- Also, Brick Tamland (Steve Carell), Anchorman 2004.
"Implying", not "inferring".
What about Airbus? Is it allowed for magas to fly with them?
Airbus produces some commercial jets at its plant in Alabama.
MAGAs Making Merde.
Soon Trump will say the whole world must be called America and he will rule it.The man is clearing delusional as proven by the ongoing situation in the middle east where he thinks he can just bully people into submission.But the American people voted for this man to be president again and to have a man who behaves like a spoilt teenager is the reason half the world now has to suffer.
Canada has made clear recently that it hates America and doesn’t want to join even with full citizenship rights offered to create the world's largest and richest country.
President Trump is correct that they need to stop the snobbery and start showing respect far more if they want our dollars. Simple.
Along those lines, I assume you are not expecting any respect as well.
What a bunch of drivel. Canada is a sovereign nation. Rightfully so, it has no interest in becoming a 51st state. “Snobbery” is merely a legitimate response to be bullied by an unhinged aggressor. And respect is a two way street.
We are not Russia/North Korea and the overwhelming majority of us have no interest in looking to bellicose to autocrats like Putin for our world view and his land grabbing greedy aspirations. Your view is appalling.
"World's largest country"? Apparently you've never heard of this place called Russia, I guess. The US is the world's fourth largest country by area. Russia, China, and, ahem, Canada are larger. And I can debate about riches with a country that's $40 trillion (that's 40 thousand thousand thousand thousand) in debt.
Who said satire was dead?
Two more years of this slobbering simpleton? Jesus wept.
Bombardier has 2800 suppliers across 47 US states. This supply chain havoc could stop production and directly impact US workers.
Exactly, and this clown was voted in.
Good luck USA 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I look forward the the Canadian response that they'll stop buying Boeing aircraft until they get made in Canada...
It's so embarrassing being an American.
Voting has consequences.
The King has spoken. I guess that means it's law.
No more CRJ Barbie Jets flying in the US? And Democrats think that is a bad thing?
Meanwhile, Matthew (LALF) is about to fly the CRJ200 ("Devil’s Chariot") on PSP-SFO...
https://liveandletsfly.com/greenland-trip-united-airlines/
Trump is an idiot. Why is anyone surprised when he acts like an idiot?
The Kansas political establishment is getting worried this evening, because of the significant Bombardier plant in Wichita. Here's what normally-right-of-center Mayor Wu posted on her Facebook, also referencing Republican Senator Moran who says he will make sure the President is aware of the company's role in the state.. . . "Today’s news regarding Bombardier certainly creates some uncertainty, but I’m hopeful it will work itself out. Bombardier has made a significant investment in Wichita and...
The Kansas political establishment is getting worried this evening, because of the significant Bombardier plant in Wichita. Here's what normally-right-of-center Mayor Wu posted on her Facebook, also referencing Republican Senator Moran who says he will make sure the President is aware of the company's role in the state.. . . "Today’s news regarding Bombardier certainly creates some uncertainty, but I’m hopeful it will work itself out. Bombardier has made a significant investment in Wichita and chose our city for its U.S. headquarters. They are an important part of the Air Capital aviation community, and we appreciate their continued investment.
"Senator Jerry Moran said this afternoon that he 'reached out to the Trump administration to make certain the President is aware of the significant contributions of Bombardier to Kansas and the importance of its presence in Wichita to many Kansas workers at Bombardier and in the Bombardier supply chain.'
"Wichita will continue to be a strong partner and support Bombardier however we can. I plan to speak with the company to better understand what today's news could mean for their Wichita operations."
Why speak to CIC( clown in Chief) when all you have to do is to talk to your voters. Unlike Trump, they actually build things.
If someone mentions the word 'Greenland' again in his vicinity, then I'm sure that your favorite narcissistic late stage dementia patient will start a rant on how all Airbus planes will be barred. And maybe he'll promote Sukhoi to appease his ally. Feeling great again, eh? All that winning!
He does not drink or I would say he's snockered.
The entire world should be grateful that Trump is a teetotaller. Imagine how deranged he’d be after a few measures of rye!
HOW much longer do we need to put up with this kook?
It's just finger flatulence. It will pass. Thank you for ignoring this matter.
"Infer" does not mean what I think you think it means.
Canada and their Monarchs (they are a Monarchy with King Charles as the head of State), have been screwing America for 250 years. I’m glad Donald is standing up to Carney, the City of London and the world’s globalist elites. Go Don!
Off your meds, I see.
Lyndon LaRouche is dead. You can let that one go.
The REAL Lyndon LaRouche would never have supported this idiotic Trump B.S.
Its really not hard to understand. Canadian companies can sell in the United States with little to no trade barriers. But if a US company wants to sell in Canada they are blocked by the Canadian government
Wuttt... you're conflating mere ownership regulations with outright bans, but... sure, Canada does have foreign ownership caps in areas like telecommunications, broadcasting, and domestic banking—which apply universally, not just to US entities. Regardless, American brands, retailers, tech companies, financial institutions, and manufacturers do (or at least 'did') billions of dollars of business in Canada every day. So, I donno, JoMo, feels like a lot of hot-air up in here...
Wuttt... you're conflating mere ownership regulations with outright bans, but... sure, Canada does have foreign ownership caps in areas like telecommunications, broadcasting, and domestic banking—which apply universally, not just to US entities. Regardless, American brands, retailers, tech companies, financial institutions, and manufacturers do (or at least 'did') billions of dollars of business in Canada every day. So, I donno, JoMo, feels like a lot of hot-air up in here...
It's funny, the Diamond members are spewing truth but the new people are saying things and getting responses. I spend my time going over conversations with members who have been on the platform for a while. Some I agree with, others I don't but at least they keep it professional
Big_Prime has never conversate with the late Tim Dunn.
Big_Prime, did you have an actual point on-topic here, or just meta-commentary?
He has been ranting all day – yes, all century, but particularly today – and this is just one.
He may well consider private jets to be “airliners,“ since his private 757 is both. But yeah, I doubt he stopped to think or even verify, that Bombardier is no longer selling commercial airline products here. Heck, even I had temporarily forgotten.
Details like that just take a distant second fiddle when he’s pissed. And...
He has been ranting all day – yes, all century, but particularly today – and this is just one.
He may well consider private jets to be “airliners,“ since his private 757 is both. But yeah, I doubt he stopped to think or even verify, that Bombardier is no longer selling commercial airline products here. Heck, even I had temporarily forgotten.
Details like that just take a distant second fiddle when he’s pissed. And he’s pissed a lot.
Almost the exact opposite of what I have been taught all my life is proper presidential character to lead what bills itself is the greatest nation on earth.
I guess we should just be thankful that “Nathalie,” or whoever typed this one, didn’t make an error and say “American Airlines“ instead of “American airliners.”
Gentlemen, many of you are lost leftoids, but some leftoids have a sense of honor and empathy, it's just that it's been misdirected - any New Yorker can go and open a TD acc at one of many local branches. Can a Torontonian go and open an acc at a U.S. bank's branch (of which there are retail almost none)? You name it, MS, BpfA, Citi, JPM, CapitalOne. No true branches in CA cities, because...
Gentlemen, many of you are lost leftoids, but some leftoids have a sense of honor and empathy, it's just that it's been misdirected - any New Yorker can go and open a TD acc at one of many local branches. Can a Torontonian go and open an acc at a U.S. bank's branch (of which there are retail almost none)? You name it, MS, BpfA, Citi, JPM, CapitalOne. No true branches in CA cities, because they're outlawed, because if they weren't all Canadian banking would've carried American banks' names by now. Whatever issues you may have with Donald and i have a few, Canada is certainly not one of them - they have enjoyed every benefit of a state without being a state.
Yeah we really screwed ya, buying from Amazon, flying in Boeing planes, vacationing in Florida, wearing American clothes, watching American entertainment, trading (all voluntarily, for all parties, remember) over a billion dollars a day across the US-Canada border. We're the ones with the trade deficit anyway (as if that's a bad thing) if you don't include energy, which we sell to US customers at a significant discount. We're not buying Bourbon. Ask the Governor of...
Yeah we really screwed ya, buying from Amazon, flying in Boeing planes, vacationing in Florida, wearing American clothes, watching American entertainment, trading (all voluntarily, for all parties, remember) over a billion dollars a day across the US-Canada border. We're the ones with the trade deficit anyway (as if that's a bad thing) if you don't include energy, which we sell to US customers at a significant discount. We're not buying Bourbon. Ask the Governor of Kentucky what he thinks about the trade war.
Yes, it's true that Canada's banking industry is regulated in a completely different way from that of the USA. Our priorities are different, just as they are in Aerospace and Telecom. Majority ownership must be Canadian. USA does the same thing in many industries.
The original reason Canada has a car industry is that in the '60s, we said the Big 3 had to make cars in Canada, as many as they sold in Canada. It was called the Auto Pact and the Government of USA, Ford, Chrysler and GM agreed because that was the better choice, in their interest.
Later NAFTA was signed by multiple US Presidents, because it was a win win.
The trade war is unbelievably stupid. The "no US banks in Canada" argument is stupid because it's irrelevant. Canada will continue to subsidize dairy, allow its lumber industry to harvest trees on Crown land, and to ban US banks (from retail banking, not from all activities; Citi has an office building in downtown Toronto). And yet, Free Trade agreements, like the one currently in place that Trump is violating, are in USA's interest. Trump and his people are throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Cutting off their nose to spite their face. Or whatever old expression you prefer.
let us know when grownups are in charge again
Syd, you’re inaccurate on many fronts (and merely parroting Trump’s propaganda) There are currently 15 U.S.-based banks operating out of Canada, either as branches or subsidiaries. Recall that foreign companies can and do have U.S. subsidiaries as well, such as, TD Bank, N.A., headquartered in Cherry Hill, NJ. Sure, its parent company is still Toronto Dominion of Canada. That said, many American companies (outside of banking) also have Canadian subsidiaries as well. So, your point...
Syd, you’re inaccurate on many fronts (and merely parroting Trump’s propaganda) There are currently 15 U.S.-based banks operating out of Canada, either as branches or subsidiaries. Recall that foreign companies can and do have U.S. subsidiaries as well, such as, TD Bank, N.A., headquartered in Cherry Hill, NJ. Sure, its parent company is still Toronto Dominion of Canada. That said, many American companies (outside of banking) also have Canadian subsidiaries as well. So, your point (above, about unfairness, etc.) isn’t really what you think it is. This is all bluster, and it’s not going to go well for any of US.
gentlemen, good thing there are a few of you, do i need to say that "there was a time when Chase had tens of thousands (lmao) of clients in Canada, but it no longer does" proves my point? DenB got a bit salty cause he thinks that him buying from American Amazon due to its convenience or flying Boeings cause there are no other options negates the fact that Canada safeguards certain industries from U.S....
gentlemen, good thing there are a few of you, do i need to say that "there was a time when Chase had tens of thousands (lmao) of clients in Canada, but it no longer does" proves my point? DenB got a bit salty cause he thinks that him buying from American Amazon due to its convenience or flying Boeings cause there are no other options negates the fact that Canada safeguards certain industries from U.S. whereas broadly U.S. doesn't safeguard anything from Canada (hence, state treatment without being a state). Again, many issues with Donald, the optics could've and should've been different but there is very simply no argument that economically this has been a one-sided relationship. DenB, would you be open to dropping all tariffs against each other by both countries?
1990, i like you dude, quite a lot, but i also think we are fully on the same page here. you said many American companies have Canadian subsidiaries and that's essentially exactly what the Donald is asking of Bombardier - have a U.S. subsidiary that builds things here. where is the issue?
@Syd:
You mean like at the U.S. subsidiary of Bombardier in Wichita!
Syd, Bombardier already has a fairly large US presence and manufacturing operation (mostly in Kansas). Those are US-workers, parts, and engines, going into those aircraft. Not to mention, the US currently operates the most Bombardier aircraft of any country; lots of very wealthy folks here like their Challenger and Global series... they're not gonna be happy paying 50% more for their PJs.
US entities voluntarily opening Canadian subsidiaries is different from governments threatening to...
Syd, Bombardier already has a fairly large US presence and manufacturing operation (mostly in Kansas). Those are US-workers, parts, and engines, going into those aircraft. Not to mention, the US currently operates the most Bombardier aircraft of any country; lots of very wealthy folks here like their Challenger and Global series... they're not gonna be happy paying 50% more for their PJs.
US entities voluntarily opening Canadian subsidiaries is different from governments threatening to ban foreign counterpart's products, or to decertify their aircraft, not because of a legitimate safety concern, but as a political weapon. It’s yet another example of self-sabotage driven by posturing rather than the economic reality.
As far as tariffs more broadly, they're supposed to be surgical, not a broad escalatory sledgehammer against the world. Also, the US already has pre-existing forms of protectionism as well (Jones Act, Buy American, ag subsidies, aerospace/defense, etc.)
(And, yes, I also 'like' most folks who dare engage on these platforms... if you're willing to read, write, and debate on here, you're at least 'trying,' so thank you. The irony here is that, as a passenger, I've already noted blow, CRJs are not even my preferred aircraft. For an RJ, I'd like an Embraer 170 or larger; over-wing engines, larger bins, please. Bah!)
Too much Fox - too few facts. Name of the game
I receive flyers for CapitalOne Canada credit cards in my mailbox every other week. Plenty of American banks offer or used to offer retail banking products here, including Chase which at one point issued Marriott and Amazon co-branded cards in Canada and had hundreds of thousands of customers. So not sure what your point is? There’s nothing “outlawing” them from doing business with Canadian consumers, they chose to not enter (or have left) the market...
I receive flyers for CapitalOne Canada credit cards in my mailbox every other week. Plenty of American banks offer or used to offer retail banking products here, including Chase which at one point issued Marriott and Amazon co-branded cards in Canada and had hundreds of thousands of customers. So not sure what your point is? There’s nothing “outlawing” them from doing business with Canadian consumers, they chose to not enter (or have left) the market due to commercial considerations.
The day he finally carks it will be a worldwide celebration.
American Airlines: he said American AirlineRs not Airlines! This is not an endorsment, please dont stop flying us!
Such a petulant douchebag. He’s not used to people standing by up to him. Good for Canada!!
It's amazing whenever I see a statement from him or the like my brain literally just automatically stops processing it and looks for the close quotes much like how my brain bypasses digesting advertisements- I don't even do this with intention my sensory reaction marks it as "useless information". It’s not that I refuse to listen to people I disagree with it's just you can never tell if the statements they make are real, fictional,...
It's amazing whenever I see a statement from him or the like my brain literally just automatically stops processing it and looks for the close quotes much like how my brain bypasses digesting advertisements- I don't even do this with intention my sensory reaction marks it as "useless information". It’s not that I refuse to listen to people I disagree with it's just you can never tell if the statements they make are real, fictional, reflect a policy, a fantasy and or will it ever last longer than a few minutes.... there's simply no reason to invest any thought into it.
Yes Mr.Prezident
You want Boeing to build a brand new 76 seater planes?
It took 787 around 9 years.
The 777X has now been over 14 years.
So the next plane would take at least 25 years? Right around the time Barron runs for office and Don Jr finds a nursing home.
If Boeing even makes commercial planes till then.
These are the Biden tariffs from the Biden economy after Joe Biden destroyed the country and left it for the heroic Republic party to fix. Oh, and don’t forget Pete Buttigieg and Kamala Harris’s laugh.
Just kidding!
I just wanted to see what it felt like to sound like a fat old orange Nazi walking-STI-carrying/spreading late-stage dementia-addled overflowing-diaper-filler-and-stench-leaking parasitic cruel sadistic violent hateful greedy grifting rapist narcissist nutjob twat.
I can report that...
These are the Biden tariffs from the Biden economy after Joe Biden destroyed the country and left it for the heroic Republic party to fix. Oh, and don’t forget Pete Buttigieg and Kamala Harris’s laugh.
Just kidding!
I just wanted to see what it felt like to sound like a fat old orange Nazi walking-STI-carrying/spreading late-stage dementia-addled overflowing-diaper-filler-and-stench-leaking parasitic cruel sadistic violent hateful greedy grifting rapist narcissist nutjob twat.
I can report that it feels as disgusting as it looks and sounds.
Eh, personally prefer Embraer (170 and larger). Just something about over-wing engines...
I've yet to see an airliner with over the wing engines, but the HondaJet has them!
Bring back the Fokker-VFW 614!
LOL. Got me good!
Not a ton of MAGAts on OMAAT these days (thankfully), but I’m sure the mouth breathers will come to the rescue somehow
Oh they report to the dog whistle!
Tertiary Syphilitic old man rants at clouds while driving America into a recesssion
remember kids, Trump voters supported him because they like his free market policies that keep the government from interfering and picking winners and losers, not because they're unreconstructed racists
Sure Jan!
This Will affect the trains division more than aircraft.
In fact bombardiers already opens factories in usa to get over the but America act already in place.
The actual impact of this is really in significant other than more bluster and outrage.
The train division is now defunct; they were acquired by Alstom. The C-Series are now the Airbus A220 and the Dash 8s are now De Havilland Canada that uses Pratts.
Bombardier also uses either GE or Honeywell engines. Take a wild guess where GE and Honeywell are based ;)
He’s going to charge Canada tariffs. It’s one thing that the genius can’t spell, it’s another that he’s as economically illiterate as his undereducated supporters.