American Will Fly 777-300ER From New York To Paris

American Will Fly 777-300ER From New York To Paris

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In a schedule update over the weekend, American revealed the next destination for its flagship Boeing 777-300ER aircraft (beyond the New York to Doha route).

American upgrades New York to Paris route for summer 2022

American plans to fly a Boeing 777-300ER between New York (JFK) and Paris (CDG) this upcoming summer. Specifically, the flight is expected to be operated by this aircraft between March 27 and August 16, 2022. The flight operates with the following schedule:

AA44 New York to Paris departing 5:45PM arriving 6:55AM (+1 day)
AA45 Paris to New York departing 11:25AM arriving 1:45PM

The 3,635-mile flight is blocked at 7hr10min eastbound and 8hr20min westbound. Before and after this change, the route is scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 777-200ER.

What’s different about the 777-300ER vs. the 777-200ER? The 777-300ER is not only higher capacity, but also much more premium-heavy:

  • The 777-300ER has eight first class seats, which the 777-200ER doesn’t have
  • The 777-300ER has 52 business class seats, while the 777-200ER only has 37 business class seats
  • A lot more premium capacity should (hopefully) also mean a lot more upgrades
American will offer first class to Paris

American suspending Miami to Paris route

While American is adding New York to Paris capacity, the carrier is cutting Paris flights out of other airports:

  • The Miami (MIA) to Paris (CDG) route will be suspended from March 27 through October 29, 2022
  • The second daily Dallas (DFW) to Paris (CDG) flight will be suspended for the summer 2022 schedule

I’m surprised to see the Miami to Paris route suspended, as that has been operated continuously for so many years. The timing is especially strange, as the route is being suspended during the peak summer travel period, which is counterintuitive. This reflects American’s shortage of 787s and 777s, so I guess this route just doesn’t perform as well as other transatlantic routes in summer.

American is suspending the Miami to Paris route

Why I find the Paris schedule change to be interesting

Why do I find a slight aircraft upgrade on the New York to Paris route and downgrades on other Paris routes so interesting? Well, it more broadly reflects a trend at American:

  • American really is going all-in on New York when it comes to long haul flying, thanks to its partnership with JetBlue
  • Not only does American have its partnership with JetBlue, but the airline also has the oneworld transatlantic joint venture, so filling planes on transatlantic flights (especially in summer) isn’t that tough
  • Historically American’s strategy with New York has been to serve the local market rather than connecting market, but obviously that’s changing, as Dallas and Miami are seeing cuts to Paris service, while New York sees an increase
  • In the summer of 2022, American will fly 777-300ERs from New York to Delhi, Doha, London, and Paris, which is much more 777-300ER capacity than we’ve seen at the airport in the past
  • Hong Kong used to get two daily 777-300ERs, so with Hong Kong largely closed, these planes are understandably being put on other routes
New York will see a lot of American 777-300ERs next summer

Bottom line

American Airlines has upgraded its New York to Paris route to the 777-300ER for the summer of 2022. This means that next summer American will fly the 777-300ER from New York to Delhi, Doha, London, and Paris. This all comes at a time when American is cutting Paris capacity out of Dallas and Miami, reflecting American’s increasing emphasis on New York.

The New York to Paris route should be pretty good for upgrades next summer, given the number of premium seats.

What do you make of American’s schedule changes on Paris flights?

(Tip of the hat to @IshrionA)

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  1. Kim Guest

    As an American living in Paris who flies regularly to Miami, I find the schedulel change a disaster. We used to have three airlines operating nonstop on this route and now only Air France remains. AA's strategy of forcing passengers to change planes in one of their US hubs won't work because changing from international to domestic in a US airport is always a poorly-managed disaster, adding hours of waiting on lines to your trip....

    As an American living in Paris who flies regularly to Miami, I find the schedulel change a disaster. We used to have three airlines operating nonstop on this route and now only Air France remains. AA's strategy of forcing passengers to change planes in one of their US hubs won't work because changing from international to domestic in a US airport is always a poorly-managed disaster, adding hours of waiting on lines to your trip. Who wants to spend 14 hours travelling when you can arrive in 10? Customers will vote with their feet and desert to AF. I hope AA will change its mind. October is a long time to wait.

  2. ARMS Guest

    I do hope that American can eventually restart service from JFK to NRT/HND like they did in the past

  3. Tim Dunn Diamond

    AA's 777-300ERs have less than 310 seats, 40+ fewer than UA's, making AA's 77Ws the most costly widebody aircraft per seat on a per seat basis. The AA cuts in Paris overall shows that they have had excess capacity - JFK-CDG was 2X/day not that long ago. DOT data shows that AA has consistently gotten average fares well below AF/DL in the US-CDG market as well as specifically JFK-CDG. AA is counting on filling a...

    AA's 777-300ERs have less than 310 seats, 40+ fewer than UA's, making AA's 77Ws the most costly widebody aircraft per seat on a per seat basis. The AA cuts in Paris overall shows that they have had excess capacity - JFK-CDG was 2X/day not that long ago. DOT data shows that AA has consistently gotten average fares well below AF/DL in the US-CDG market as well as specifically JFK-CDG. AA is counting on filling a lot more premium seats in the NYC local market compared to both what it has operated in the past while still having far less than AF/DL and UA. AA is going all-in with the B6 alliance despite it not giving AA a competitive advantage but adding a much higher cost product.

    1. shoeguy Guest

      JFK-CDG hasn't been twice daily in about a decade.

    2. Wassim Guest

      That's... not true. Back in October 2014 I flew AA121 CDG-JFK on a 757 (a late afternoon flight) and then AA44 for the return JFK-CDG on a 767 (the first of the two daily flights).

      I believe there have been two daily on that route up until pretty recently, but I'm less sure about that.

    3. shoeguy Guest

      Actually, I am not correct. The second daily flight, AA 120/121, was cut in 2017. It was operated with a 757. So, it has not been quite a decade.

  4. DenB Diamond

    If they're busily building "connecting" service in New York, why did they cut YYZ-JFK recently? Toronto airport catchment area is more than 5 millions, yet our only OneWorld service to New York is AA YYZ-JFK. None by any carrier too JFK. If Ben's theory is right, then could we expect AA to reintroduce JFK service from YYZ? Haha or better still from YTZ (one can dream)

    1. DenB Diamond

      oops I meant our only OneWorld service is YYZ-LGA. Kinda defeated my own argument there LOL

  5. JB Guest

    Is AA not scheduling the 77W from JFK to GRU in the summer of 2022?

    1. JB Guest

      And are there no more 77W's scheduled then on JFK-MIA?

    2. shoeguy Guest

      No, they are flying the 77E on JFK-GRU for Summer 2022 and they also pulled a 77W off MIA-EZE and fly that with the 77E instead, plus 3 extra weekly on a 789.

  6. D3kingg Guest

    With the other flight cuts these flights will be very full. Also setting the bar extremely low i would expect the food catering out of CDG to be an improvement in First.

  7. Jason Guest

    I think it actually does better in the winter because it’s full of French people going tote beaches of Florida, Caribbean, Central America then. Not so much in the summer.

  8. shoeguy Guest

    Also, JFK-CDG is a major route for AA. It has operated continuously since it launched in 1987.

    1. shoeguy Guest

      Continuously, except from March 2020 to March 2021 when it was suspended due to the pandemic. Forgot to mention that. Launched in 1987 as JFK-ORY on a 767-200ER, switched for a time in the early 1990s to the DC10-30, then flew as a 767-300ER until 1999, when it was moved to CDG. Flew as a 767-300ER, briefly to a 777-200ER when the second JFK-CDG was cancelled (AA 120) then back to a 767-300ER than finally to the 77E again in March 2019.

  9. shoeguy Guest

    AA only operated 2 x daily DFW-CDG in 2019 as AF had launched a CDG-DFW route. It was not a long standing, 2 x daily operation, but the wide body shortage is likely at play here regardless.

    JFK-CDG going 77W for a few months can be explained through the lens of what is happening with JFK-GRU and MIA-EZE. AA does not have enough 777 and 787 aircraft to fly everything it wants to fly...

    AA only operated 2 x daily DFW-CDG in 2019 as AF had launched a CDG-DFW route. It was not a long standing, 2 x daily operation, but the wide body shortage is likely at play here regardless.

    JFK-CDG going 77W for a few months can be explained through the lens of what is happening with JFK-GRU and MIA-EZE. AA does not have enough 777 and 787 aircraft to fly everything it wants to fly in Spring/Summer 2022 and so putting 77W's on 12+ hour downtime in South America isn't ideal, so they're putting some on shorter JFK routes where theoretically, there is more premium demand to Europe as demand to Europe is expected to be robust in 2022 assuming pandemic issues do not interfere. The 77W on JFK-CDG and 3 x daily on LHR really isn't about B6 as much as it is about optimizing the planes they have and trying to get ahead of irregular operational issues if one or more frames needs heavy maintenance.

  10. JetSetGo Guest

    I prefer flying from US cities to Paris via Air France. AA’s soft/hard product just can’t compete.

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JetSetGo Guest

I prefer flying from US cities to Paris via Air France. AA’s soft/hard product just can’t compete.

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Kim Guest

As an American living in Paris who flies regularly to Miami, I find the schedulel change a disaster. We used to have three airlines operating nonstop on this route and now only Air France remains. AA's strategy of forcing passengers to change planes in one of their US hubs won't work because changing from international to domestic in a US airport is always a poorly-managed disaster, adding hours of waiting on lines to your trip. Who wants to spend 14 hours travelling when you can arrive in 10? Customers will vote with their feet and desert to AF. I hope AA will change its mind. October is a long time to wait.

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ARMS Guest

I do hope that American can eventually restart service from JFK to NRT/HND like they did in the past

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