In early June it was announced that United Airlines would close three of its four foreign flight attendant bases. There has been quite a legal battle regarding this between the airline and the union, and a final decision has now been made.
United Airlines’ plan to close foreign crew bases
United Airlines has historically had flight attendants based in four foreign cities — Frankfurt, Hong Kong, London, and Tokyo. These crews don’t operate domestic flights within the US, but rather typically just operate flights to & from their home airports.
A few months back it was announced that as of October 1, 2020, United Airlines will be closing crew bases in Frankfurt, Hong Kong, and Tokyo. With this decision, the only remaining foreign crew base for the airline would be in London.
This decision impacts about 840 flight attendants. Some were eligible to transfer to US bases as of October, but only if they’re eligible to work in the United States. The airline wouldn’t otherwise help with getting work visas for these flight attendants.
United’s foreign based flight attendants are a quirky bunch — some are Americans who just like living abroad, while others are “locals” who just got a job with United. I’ve flown with United flight attendants from all four of these bases, and it’s always fun to get different service than you might be used to on a US airline.
I feel bad for all the employees impacted by this — moving your life across the ocean isn’t easy, and that’s for the lucky ones, who are even eligible to work in the US.
United is closing three of four foreign crew bases
The legal battle over foreign crew bases
While the decision to close foreign crew bases was made back in June, there has been a battle between management and the union over this decision.
The Association of Flight Attendants (AFA) had two primary grievances with the company over this plan. The union claimed that:
- Vacancies weren’t being created at the London Heathrow crew base (the only international base remaining open), violating the terms of the contract
- Most flight attendants at foreign bases weren’t eligible for voluntary furloughs, as this was only available to individuals having the necessary documents to work in the United States
For several months there had been arbitration between the airline and the union, and a final decision has now been made — the arbitrator ruled in favor of United, rather than the AFA. That means that United can continue with these base closures, as planned. The union said the following in a note to Hong Kong based AFA members:
While many of you have an opinion that AFA should have had a plan in place if we were not successful in arbitration, the one size fits all solution is not, in fact, a solution nor is it simple. Each of us have our own unique concerns and issues. A “one size fits all” solution simply does not serve each of you. We have a plan – that is, to head into talks with the company as the only way to develop solutions in lieu of a favorable arbitration decision that provide options.
While we continue to work in your best interest, we ask that you consider focusing your anger where it belongs; not at each other but at the company. Ultimately, all of these decisions have been made by management and none of them have been made by your flying partners who have agreed to come forward in the service of the many.
I am heartbroken by this callous decision by the arbitrator. I am disappointed. And like you, I am mad. No one deserves to be treated this way, after giving over 20 years of service. Know that your Union continues to stand behind you, and will not abandon you. We will continue to fight this injustice. In the meantime, take care of one another.
The arbitrator has sided with United, and this could impact 840 jobs
What are the CARES Act implications?
Back in March, US airlines received around $25 billion in payroll support through the CARES Act. One condition of accepting this funding was that airlines had to promise not to involuntarily lay off employees prior to October 1.
However, this restriction was specific to US-based employees. Unless I’m missing something, this means that United could have laid off foreign flight attendants sooner if desired.
There’s still talk of CARES Act funding possibly being extended beyond October 1, so the AFA memo notes the following:
Several of you are asking how the CARES Act helps you. As we have said consistently, the CARES Act does not prevent the base from closing and, in the long run, it does not prevent you from being separated from the company because you cannot work in the United States. If it passes, as the company has implied, what it does is extend your time on the payroll. It provides funding that can be used to keep us on the payroll while we continue to explore alternatives.
I find that to be a bit confusing. Does the union assume that foreign based employees will have their payroll maintained out of goodwill if CARES Act funding were to be extended, or is there something I’m missing about payroll support for non-US based workers?
In June we first learned that United would be closing three of four foreign crew bases, impacting 840 employees. Since then there has been a legal battle regarding these base closures, and the company ended up winning the arbitration.
Those eligible to work in the US are allowed to transfer bases, while others will be left without jobs come October 1. It goes without saying that this is an extremely sad development. While furloughs are sad across the industry, everywhere else they’ve been done based on seniority.
In this case some very senior employees will be losing their jobs. Not only that, but this isn’t even really a furlough, since getting a job with United again relies on these bases reopening, and that seems highly unlikely.
Unfortunately these foreign crew bases are often the easiest cuts to start with when airlines are trying to reduce head counts. Similarly, Cathay Pacific has closed all of its North America crew bases as well.
Did you ever have the chance to fly with one of United’s international crews?
I flew with United Airlines in the 1990's from Chicago to Paris Charles de Gaulle with a Paris, France based flight service crew, when United had a base there. They were exceptional, kind, and very skilled at offering an international premium cabin product. Of course, United's Chairman at the time was seated in First Class with his spouse. I travelled in Connoisseur Class, their Business Class product at the time. A great experience due to...
I flew with United Airlines in the 1990's from Chicago to Paris Charles de Gaulle with a Paris, France based flight service crew, when United had a base there. They were exceptional, kind, and very skilled at offering an international premium cabin product. Of course, United's Chairman at the time was seated in First Class with his spouse. I travelled in Connoisseur Class, their Business Class product at the time. A great experience due to the elegant "French" staffing!
Big fan of your blog here, but i never commented on something. Now I have to... yes, as a stemmcell courier flying out of Frankfurt, mostly to the US, mostly with UA and LH, I think I almost new all in FRA based UA‘s... and i love them and I‘ll miss them and I‘m very sad about this. I‘ll fly wirh UA to IAD next week, and can‘t believe, that there won‘t...
Big fan of your blog here, but i never commented on something. Now I have to... yes, as a stemmcell courier flying out of Frankfurt, mostly to the US, mostly with UA and LH, I think I almost new all in FRA based UA‘s... and i love them and I‘ll miss them and I‘m very sad about this. I‘ll fly wirh UA to IAD next week, and can‘t believe, that there won‘t be any known face on board.
I send my best wishes to all of them, it was always a pleasure, being their guests... they treated me always wonderfull. I‘m from Lufthansa and have tears in my eyes writing this...
i hope I reach a few of my UA crew members. My speculialpersonal greetings and hugs go to France and the Netherlands where few of them live. Thomas
@ shoeguy - if you had interacted with these foreign base crew, you know they have lines beyond just one leg origin and destination, like HKG base have lines post merger: e.g. HKG-EWR-FRA, or pre merger: e.g. HKG-NRT-ICN, so no, HKG base is not solely for flights out of HKG, simiarily, ORD base have lines like ORD-HKG-SIN as well, no one ever said US base cant fly intra Asia neither.
It might be a good time to take stock about what these unions are actually doing for the staff. Are they helping in some material way?
There are technical intricacies that came into play with the overseas domiciles. I know in some regards, F/As based overseas were considered to be employed in the State of Illinois. e.g. Occupational injury claims for NRT based F/As fell under Illinois statutes. Not sure what other technicalities applied to these bases as to where they technically were employed. So, perhaps CARES stipulations did apply to them?
Together with Northwest, United (inherited PanAm rights) enjoyed unlimited 5th freedom rights at NRT (well, we were occupied by the US after WW2). There was like a dozen UA aircraft at NRT during the evening bank (similar story with Northwest), making NRT look at a US airport. The 5th freedom flights gradually disappeared, and flights started to shift to HND, now there is no reason to keep a base here.
@shoeguy for both UA and AA, LHR is a very large operation. I would be surprised if they close this base.
United's London (LHR) crew base is a legacy of its acquisition of Pan Am's LHR routes in 1991. Eventually, I could see it close too. The HKG base made no sense with virtually no regional service on UA from HKG before the pandemic and to serve the normal roster of ORD (1), EWR (1), SFO (2) made no sense, financially. NRT and FRA are larger stations for UA, but even with the NH/UA cooperation, a lot of UA will move to HND.
The culture of American and United and their relationship with AFA is toxic.
It looks like the big winner is Delta which has stayed union-free and found ways to work through this crisis.
I am a victim of United myself. This airline acres NOTHING for people and I mean NADA. I know it’s tough times and I respect all the decisions they have made. It’s HOW they are doing it and with such little care, thanks or support. United is a toxic company once again under the leadership of one of Aviation's worst , Scott Kirby.