Do UberX Drivers Actually Make Money?

It’s no secret that Uber is my one of my favorite innovations for ground transportation. When public transportation in a city isn’t good, I used to get really frustrated by the lack of options and taxi “mafias,” though fortunately Uber has solved that problem in many cities.

Uber Black is the “standard” service and a bit more than a taxi, while they also have UberX, which is usually cheaper than a taxi. And thanks to the instant feedback loop (you rating the driver and the driver rating you), service is excellent across the board, in my experience.

I feel like I understand the economics of Uber Black pretty well. The cost is a bit higher than what you’d pay for a taxi (though flat rates from airports can be a steal, especially internationally), but for that additional fee you’re getting a nicer vehicle, GPS tracking, and the convenience of paying through the app.

UberX, however, is another story.

UberX

UberX is the low-cost version of Uber, and doesn’t have the same restrictions in regards to car type. So it seems like they’re mainly personal vehicles, as opposed to Uber Black, which seems to typically be licensed limo drivers. But the prices are often less than half the cost of Uber, and in some places they’re more plentiful.

I’m in Chicago this weekend for a frequent flyer gathering, and it was a pretty long day, so I thought it might be nice to order some pizzas. Apparently our hotel is outside the delivery zone of every Domino’s in town, so a couple friends offered to go pick up our order.

The store was only a few miles away, so I requested an UberX to take them there and back. They should have only been gone a few minutes, though unfortunately the Domino’s was still dealing with the aftermath of their $1 pizza promotion, so they had to wait for the order.

And wait.

And wait.

And wait.

All told they were waiting for pizza for well over an hour, plus the ~10 minute drive each way. I’d told them to just have the UberX driver wait, since we didn’t know how long it was going to be (and it can sometimes be tough to get an Uber in the suburbs on a Saturday night).

After an hour and forty minutes though, I was a bit scared to look at the final fare.

UberX-receipt

Clearly I needn’t have worried, but how the hell are they making any money at these rates?

That’s cheap as can be to start with, and when you factor in the $30 referral credits and Amex bonuses I just don’t understand how this is profitable.

What am I missing?

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Mike Guest

Al you hit the nail on the head! Sooner or later Uber will run out of drivers once they figure out what a scam it is. For you cheap customers that think it is a 20/80 split you have no clue. And another thing, you idiots that don't tip and wonder why your rating is below a 5, that's why you cheap ppl throw the driver a few bucks.

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Al Guest

After ubers now 25% off the top, the drivers also have to pay gas, their own ins, and a mileage deduct. Example. A friend in LA for Ux, after a 75hr week, went 1400 miles, made $1335 in fares. After U fees, gas, in, and uber $1 deduct per fare and mileage deduct, he took home a WOPPING $4.38/hr... $326/per week, for 75 hrs worked!!!!! U has also grossed more $$ than any company in the world in 3 yrs, more than most companies make in 8-12 yrs. and who's doing all the work? The drivers. And who's taking all the earnings? The two greedy sob's in SF. UBlk doesn't make much more. It's pretty bad. Plus, if your a driver, and U says your an independent contractor, then how are they suspending drivers for not meeting perfect ratings?, because the drivers are employee's, not IC's. It's a great alternative to cabbies, but with the greed of its two CEO's, U won't last much longer. The karma of the greed will keep closing in. Be patient.

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Dax Guest

Sending Uber to pickup Dominos one of the greatest pizza markets in the country is laughably absurd. In so many areas of the traveling world Lucky is a genuine expert, but in the sense of living like a local he seems to be a perpetual newbie.

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NASRA Guest

Re: Mr Endrr " 1 – Driver spoke clear English , 2 – automatically sent email with detailed invoice with driven route on a map, 3 – no tip allowed 4 – driver communicated with me during trip 5 – Car was a large new Infinity with real leather seats– , Yellow driver: !- could not speak one word of English, 2 – Was on the phone talking to someone with a clicking sound language all the way, 3 – A sign in taxi suggested 25% tip!!!! 4 – got a blank paper as “invoice” that I needed to fill out myself, 5 – Car was an old Crown vik with plastic seats, I think our real springs and differential followed us on the highway a few miles back definitely was not part of the car" . So do you think no Tip allowed is an honest decision, as Uberx being a public service provided to you for the cheapest ride you could get out there ? ! . Come'on dude its fucking United State not fucking European country . They do deserve tip .... . for sharing their new rides in a welcoming envoirment with a friendly attitude .

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mbh Guest

Well I certainly learned something. I thought uber was totally unregulated--just guys and gals who agreed to sign up to drive people around for $ and be rated. I've been on the fence about the issue of cab drivers objecting. But, hell, if this is a business with a hierarchy and a middle-man, I have just sided squarely with the cabbies. Uber should be regulated like any other car service in the cities. They are totally screwing the cabbies. If it were what I had heard it was (individuals signing up and making the $$ you gave them), I could support that, but this is just plain a way to avoid regulations. (My truck is not with the drivers, but with the business/middle-man.) Thanks for the insight, though.

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