Thai Airways Wants To Bring Back Nonstop Flights To The US

Thai Airways used to fly nonstop from Bangkok to New York and Los Angeles using their Airbus A340-500 aircraft, though in 2012 they cut those routes, given how much money the airline was losing on the routes. This was due to a combination of the A340-500 being a gas guzzler, and also the generally low yields on flights to and from Thailand.

Thai Airways used to operate a one stop flight between Los Angeles and Bangkok, which initially routed via Osaka, and then eventually via Seoul Incheon, before it finally got cut. When an airline only operates a one-stop routing to their home country, they don’t really have a competitive advantage, since there are a dozen airlines operating one-stop flights between the US and Thailand.

Thai Airways isn’t even allowed to fly to the US at the moment, given the poor rating Thailand scored in a safety audit. This caused the FAA to downgrade Thailand to Category II, which means they can’t operate flights to the US. However, I’d keep in mind that’s more a reflection of the regulation in the country overall (or lack thereof), rather than Thai Airways specifically.

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Anyway, it looks like Thai Airways is looking to change their safety image, and even wants to restart flights between Bangkok and the US. Per the Bangkok Post:

THAI targets non-stop flights to San Francisco or Seattle with easy transfer to other destinations (no other carriers offer this service) once flights are resumed to US.

Non-stop flights would be offered on the routes, which is a major selling point as no other carriers offer this service.

In the past, THAI operated flights to the US with a stop in either Japan or South Korea.

The opening of the new route to the US would come when THAI receives two new Boeing aircraft next year.

While I wouldn’t necessarily take this as fact yet, it does look like Thai Airways seriously wants to restart service to the US, and San Francisco or Seattle are the likely gateways. They’ll be taking delivery of some Boeing 787-9 aircraft next year, so I suspect that’s the plane they’d use for the route (that’s what United flies from San Francisco to Singapore).

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San Francisco and Seattle are both logical options:

  • Seattle is the closest US gateway they can operate to nonstop, though it’s not a Star Alliance hub, so there would be limited opportunities for connecting passengers
  • San Francisco is 500 miles further, so would be more expensive to operate, but also makes more sense, since it’s a United hub

SFO-BKK

Using a 787-9 rather than an A340-500 should at least help keep the operating costs of the flight down, but even so, I have a hard time imagining they’d turn a profit on the route, given the cost of operating an ultra longhaul flight, and that Thailand is a fairly low yield market.

Then again, that’s even more reason to root for the route, since award space would likely be plentiful. 😉

Bottom line

Thai Airways is seriously considering launching flights to the US, and I suspect if they do, San Francisco is the most logical choice. Quite a bit has to happen before they’ll be able to operate the route, so I suspect it could be 2018 before it launches, if it happens at all.

It would be great to see the return of nonstop flights between the US and Thailand.

Do you think Thai Airways will restart nonstop US flights? If so, would you fly with them?

(Tip of the hat to View from the Wing)

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SIMON BIN ABDUL KUDUS Guest

Question ; Thai Airways Int first flew from Tokyo to the USA-SFO or LA, when was the first flight?

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JOHN HARRINGTON Guest

ABOVEARTICLE SAYS,"since there are a dozen airlines operating one-stop flights between the US and Thailand"WHICH DOZEN AIRLINES?I CAN THINK OF ONLY:1)UALNONE OF THE OTHER US AIRLINESOPERATE ONE-STOP ROUTING TO THE US MAINLAND

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RKAviation (LAX Spotter) Guest

I hope they start service back to LAX International Airport. LAX has completed a new Midfield Concourse just a few months ago. If they come back to LAX, I'm sure they will use the concourse for their flights. If not, then I'm okay with that. I just wanna fly to Bangkok one day!

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Jim Pearson Guest

Surely there would be plenty of demand to restart US flights in the future, once their financial situation has improved and current travel restrictions have been lifted. The "low-yield" part I don't agree with, especially when United and Northwest used to serve Bangkok for years, albeit via a one-stop service. I think part of the reason for the lack of current flights in addition to the already established reasons (wrong aircraft type, kickbacks and free flights for military and the elite) could be political reasons - THAI would need to purchase more Boeing planes and suddenly the country would receive a top FAA rating. There are plenty of Thai expatriates in LA, many of whom have American spouses. In recent years between 600,000 and 1 million Americans have visited Thailand per year (plus all the expat Thais), more than enough to warrant one or two direct services to the USA (such as SFO, SEA or LAX). There is some business travel potential in both directions (American investors coming for the Eastern Economic Corridor (EEC) and Thais to the USA) but there's also another obvious one: connecting traffic to Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Nepal, Vietnam and Malaysia, markets few of the major Asian carriers servicing North America serve (other than Vietnam and Malaysia). Even potentially as an alternative to Chinese carriers for less popular Chinese gateway cities (Kunming, Chongqing, Changsha, Xiamen, Macau) that THAI or THAI Smile service. After all, THAI Airways offers a superior product to pretty much any of the Chinese airlines and on Chinese routes at least, there is always at least one or two Chinese speaking cabin crew on board (most of whom are Chinese nationals). Even Vietnam Airlines has stated it intends to serve the US market in the future, and having very similar market characteristics to Thailand (mostly leisure including serving the diaspora market, but also some business, mainly manufacturing related rather than banking/finance - similar to Thailand). Like Bangkok, Ho Chi Minh City was once served by United Airlines on a one stop service via Hong Kong (Bangkok was served via Tokyo) and both flights were suspended in 2012, around the same time as each other.

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[email protected] Guest

When will it happen.? I would fly in a heartbeats with any airline direcly fromTiland to Sanfrancisco

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